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  • I declare under rules of etymology, that "world history" gives no evidence of an unseen God/creator. Therefore there is no basis for titles explaining why one don't accept the false ideas of spurious entities of incorporeal and phantoms. E.g., why should I brand myself an atheist because I have not accepted foolishness of hypnotic religion? I am just me, by birth name, no atheist. See what I mean?

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian , peace be with you, Well said sister.

  • Lost-and-ignorant-atheist@YouT­ube.com

  • @mikeyt619 I'll try this again. . . .Perhaps, you'll be the first to explain what issues you have with me reading the bible. Let's try to be mature and answer the question without ad hominem attacks.

  • Actually, The Troll might actually be a Poe. The ridiculous claims, refusal to provide evidence (although most theists have a problem with this one!) for it's assertions, name calling, inflammatory rhetoric, etc. leads me to think this is a Poe. But under "Poe's Law" it's really hard to distinguish from a real fundie.

  • 'AWW LAWD, THEY BE TALKIN' SNAKES UP IN HEA'!!! TURNS THIS BREADS INTO WINES !! 

  • I thought this troll said it was going to stop posting here. This obviously means this Troll is a proven LIAR. I will not feed the Troll by replying directly to it, and I would recommend this action to my fellow subscribers. Trolls are like bad advertisements, they will go away if they are ignored! Although these trolls are amusing sometimes, they can be annoying other times.

    "Dont aim for the Towers, Kill the Trolls" Gandalf LOTR ROTK!

  • The Holy Bible says "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine" I am not going to post anymore comments on your channel. I am done with this God forsaken channel. Steve Harvey said it best when he said that atheists are idiots and the best way to deal with atheists is to walk away from them. Atheism is like radiation fallout, it will seriously harm or kill anyone it touches. People that accept atheism are the walking dead (zombies) and should be avoided.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian LOL. Steve Harvey, now there's a source. A man who is unfaithful to multiple wives and thinks HE's the expert on what women need. A man who stated "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys."

    You choose to listen to one of the most uneducated people in the public eye.

    Despite all this, you STILL have not provided me a quote with where I lied in the video. We both know it's because I have not lied. The only liar here is you.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian , respect and greetings. To have clarity all should speak by rules of etymology, let every word count. Give factual "PRECEDENCE" for the unknown God, and his creation of man. Only real precedence can legitimize the bible.

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  • I .. listened to Rev. Creflo Dollar.

    LOL

  • Well OBVIOUSLY we have a TROLL on this message board. Awesome video by the way. I love discussing some of the insights with some of my on-the-fence friends!

  • @raichutoyou Thank you. :-)

  • ah but ppl still believe in this crap thats the sick brainwashed minds of religions an their followers !

  • @flexbrat LOL. A large majority still claim to believe in it. Most don't read it.

  • LOL...very funny video.

  • @LoliLoli83 Thank you.  :-)

  • It's sad to see corrupted lost souls like yourself, who try so hard to push their doubts & disbelief against the Bible,God(creator), who is as ignorant as a child, & still get listeners, without having no logic, explanation, nor facts whatsoever to support your claim,,,,let me ask you,, what started life, because you can't create something out of nothing, Life cannot create itself,,Exactly! =)

  • @JazWeav18 "It's sad to see.."

    Doubt, is a necessary prerequisite to learning. Your fear of doubting prevents you from seeing that the claims put forth in this bronze age fairy tale book (bible) are baseless. If have evidence or objective reasoning to support your claim. lets hear it.

    Secondly, no one knows how life got started. But that fact doesn't support your claim any more than saying "therefore there must be a god named Zeus" Btw you can't get nothing from something either. Your point?

  • @ray0991 umm, actually, you're wrong!!! The existence of God can be scientifically provable,,,Let me point out the facts =),,,For one,,,the law of nature is that of energy cannot be create nor destroy, however it can be transform into one form to another. Everything is made of energy(information),,, The Bible declares God exist outside of time, having no beginning or end, therefore God is infinite,(unlimited energy)!

  • @JazWeav18 Your argument is circular. The bible is true, because, the bible says the bible is true. Also, there's no evidence of anything existing out of time. The laws of thermal dynamics suggest that matter/energy maybe eternal. No need for a god. But, if an entity does exist outside of time, What makes you think it has to be your guy? Maybe its Allah, Thor, or any of thousands. Btw, the scientific community DOES NOT support god claims.

  • @JazWeav18 LOL, Another attempt to redefined an already well defined term.

    Energy is defined as "the capacity of a physical system to perform work." Please show me where energy = information.

    What law are you referring to? The first law of thermodynamics?

  • @ray0991 So the only thing "baseless" is yourself, that this so called "Fairy Tale" book(bible) is showing you just how ignorant you really are!!!,,,<- Exactly!!! =)

  • @JazWeav18 Attacking me won't support you claim. Only evidence.

  • @JazWeav18 You are showing how ignorant you are. It is clear that you do not have a fundamental understanding of anything here. You attempted to redefine energy. Please just admit that you do not understand it. It's ok. That's how you learn.

    Second, you stated that I made claims. What claims have I made? The problem here is that I don't agree with you. Your childish attacks here show that you really have no basis for your disagreements. Be an adult. Address the "claims" that I have made.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica Not only are you are a fool but you are also very arrogant. You are unwilling to admit you are wrong because atheism has blinded your ability to think logically. You are a typical atheist that attacks anyone that doesn't support your beliefs. You have attacked me and now you are attacking JazWeav18. I think you are on the payroll getting paid to deceive black people. How much money is your master paying you to spread atheism in the black community?

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian "I think you are on the payroll getting paid to deceive black people."

    "Paid deceive black people," IAmaAfricanChristian? Why do you hold black people in such low regard that you believe all it takes to deceive us is paying a couple people to do a YouTube video? You really believe that's really all it takes, IAmaAfricanChristian? Do you really think we're that stupid?

  • @Haywerth This is beyond a Youtube video, this is about the destruction of black communities. I really believe the leaders of Black Atheists of America are the antichrist and they are getting paid by corrupt and evil people in high places to create turmoil in the black community. The first step of their plan is to remove God from people's minds, homes, and community. They want to get rid of churches. God has a bigger plan and will not allow atheism to destroy the black community.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian So in other words, yes, you truly think we're that stupid. Thank you for clarifying.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian " this is about the destruction of black communities"

    Are you insane? The whole point of these videos is to promote critical thinking skills. Blindly following a book of nonsense is not helpful to any community. Stop attacking the messenger. Examine the message. You are angry because you are surprised to learn how silly the bible stories are. I didn't write them. And you apparently never REALLY read them.

  • @Haywerth Yeah a youtube video with less than 1,000 hits @ this point. Boy they must be rolling in it, since it has been seen by so many viewers. Don't feed the TROLL! Atleast here BAA does not ban viewers, or block comments like most theist videos on youtube. If theist posters don't look @ the Red Lightsabers they have for like/dislike bars.

  • @OLDSKOOLNYC1 You make a very good point.Sdacrowe said previously "I know [BAAm] like to give people their right at free speech, but [IAmaAfricanChristian] has to be a joke ( I'm hoping so ) or a borderline mass murderer for Jesus." I agree 100%. But I also believe that it's important to show people, especially those indoctrinated, that it's ok to question religion, to not be intimidated by threats and warnings from these people who claim to know exactly what makes god *mad.*

  • @Haywerth You are a foolish heathen. I am a God fearing Christian that believes in peace. My heart is filled with love and I will never hurt anyone. I love God and all of his creations. You can't stop the power of God by making fun of me. If you are alive 20 from now churches will still exist and people will still talk and love Jesus Christ. Christians will always heavily outnumber atheists. That is the power of Almighty God. You can't stop the power of God.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian "Christians will always heavily outnumber atheists." And that's how weak christianity is. Your faith is determined not on truth, but by numbers. Guess who else relied on numbers and the bible? The Klan.

    And I'm not making fun of you. It just feels that way because you 're so used to being around your fellow christians and not being challenged on anything. But that's what happens when you only care about numbers.

  • @Haywerth ur correct and I bet the user wouldnt like it if she had been born during the slave period of this country when the numbers out weighed her rites !

  • @flexbrat The sad part is I can come up with a valid argument for the existence of god and I’m an atheist! And I can do it without relying on preaching, threats or warnings. Because time and light are interconnected, I could say that the bible documents the Big Bang in Genesis 1:3 (“And God said, Let there be light”) Now, it doesn’t prove god’s existence, but it at least shows I’m dealing with a person who scientifically literate.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian you cant stop the power of the internet to educate ppl now on the false fantasy belief in gods ! you should stop the use of all science made items an stay with ur fake bible book lol christians out number means there are way to many mentally ill minds out there that need their brains upgraded to REALITY !

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian religions gods all this crap is so backwards an stupid ! this 2012 wake up from this stupid fantasy crap ! tell ur god to reply through you with at least something logical and bible quotes dont work so dont try to quote crap from a crappy book !

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian What am I wrong about?

    I'm getting paid to deceive black people? That is the most absurd thing you've written, yet. It's particularly funny because it's written by a theist. You do not hear about rich atheists destructing the black community, but there are PLENTY of stories of christians. Who's more likely to deceive?

    I'm attacking JazWeav18? He came to MY channel and insulted me. I respond and that's the conclusion that you draw? . . .

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica I am a God fearing man and speak the truth. You like to make mockery of the Holy Bible and I came to your channel to defend Jesus Christ and the scripture that comes from Almighty God. I will not allow you to defame my personal Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Now get behind me satan, I rebuke you satan in the name of Jesus Christ.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian LOL. Define "rebuke."

    You do not have any control over me. You do see that more videos have been put up weekly, correct?

    Where did I mock the bible? I want you to quote me.

    Stop making claims without support.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica Rebuking satan over the internet. Reminds me of the time self proclaimed "Prophetess" Juanita Bynum was typing in tongues on Facebook.

  • @Haywerth LOL.  I remember that. That was hilarious. Too funny.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica What's also ironic is this omnipotent, omnipresent deity of theists, needs acolytes to carry out it's Dirty work.All of this blaspeheming we are doing, yet their God is "POWERLESS" to do anything about it. I will not feed the troll, I reply to sensible posts, and people who don't need to threaten others with eternal punishment, for having opposing views!

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica You are right, i do not have any control over you. God has the ultimate control over you and when he is ready, he will punish you for spreading evil. I have done my job and will stop posting on your channel. You are aligned with evil and malevolent forces and hell is a very hot place. Christianity will always win over atheism because you can't stop the power of God. Atheists are outcasts and misfits and God and society will always reject you.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian You have posted at least 20 comments on here. You have name called and made all types of claims, and for some reason you still think that you are the "good guy."

    I have asked you a number of times to state what I said that was incorrect. You've YET to answer that simple question. You, however, continue to call me evil.

    The REAL issue here is that you have not read your bible and that you really don't have a purpose other than to harass me.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica By the way, I have had people send me private messages asking about Jesus Christ and eager to learn about God. Atheism has left these people feeling spiritually empty and they want love, peace, and happiness in their lives. My words have had a powerful impact on these people and they are running to find a church. Jesus Christ is the only way. I have done my job by saving a few souls and I will not return to your God forsaken channel.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian "I have done my job by saving a few souls.." Really? Your job is done? Have you not read Deuteronomy 17:1-5?

  • @Haywerth I have done my job on this channel. Many of you people are heathens that don't want salvation. I am done. Jesus made a new covenant and came to fulfill the laws. Christians follow the laws of the New Testament. We are no longer required to make blood sacrifices (Judaic laws). If you want to know about Jesus Christ and being saved send me a private message.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian So you follow the laws of the NT even though the Ten Commandments are in the OT? Even though Jesus mentions Moses in the NT? Does that not show that the two books are inseparable? You're just trying to separate yourself from the horrible stuff in the OT. Because what you're REALLY saying is had Jesus NOT made a new covenant and fulfilled the laws as you say, you'd be obeying Deuteronomy 17:1-5 to the letter, which is insane.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian " I have done my job on this channel.."

    Who hired you? What was you mission? And where's our cut?

  • @ray0991 What you don't understand is that I put God first. You don't know about this because you are all about ego (edging God out). God told me I had work to do and my spirit guided me. I don't work for God to get paid, I work for God to save souls and to glorify the name of Jesus Christ.

  • @ray0991 If you are not interested in the word of God, do not bother me anymore with trivial matters. I will no longer cast pearls before swine. All things are delivered to me of my Father because I put God first. If you want God in your life and want to learn how to serve God, send me a private message.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian . . . and you post more lies? You did no such conversion. If you had evidence, you would not have to make thing up.

    I do not feel empty, nor do many atheists. That is a poor assumption of theists. Your words are nothing but threats. Many of us do have love, peace and happiness. I have never heard of a war started in the name of atheism. There have been a myriad of wars started pursuant to religion.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica I had 4 people that contacted me via private message. These people know within their hearts that atheism is a false and evil doctrine. They expressed interest in the teachings of Jesus Christ and want a personal relationship with God. I have done my job. I know more about God and the Holy Bible than you will ever know. You are aligned with satan and have become cursed. I am blessed and have experienced anointment of the Holy Spirit. You can't stop God

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian 1. You are still lying. Atheism is not a doctrine. You have done nothing. I do not align myself with any fairy tales - that includes satan. I am not "cursed." You are not "blessed." You have not experienced an "anointment of the holy spirit."

    2. You still have not quoted what you have an issue with.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth. Evil is your way of life and the devil is your master. You are all about ego (edging out God) and have aligned yourself with satan. You are walking the path of everlasting hell and damnation. It's only a matter of time before God punishes you for your evil ways.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian And again, no response as to what you take issue with.

    I can only align myself with things I believe in. I do not believe in satan, nor any other fairy tales.

    If you listened to the series you would know that your god killed long before the "devil" even came about. Not to mention, your god is a serial killer. He's killed way more than the devil.

    God will never punish me because he does not exist.

    Now, please quote me and tell me what issues you have with the video?

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica You are in no position to challenge me because you are an atheist. You have no moral barometer. You have the morality of people like Hitler, Stalin, Charles Manson, Idi Amin and Osama bin Laden. You know nothing about righteousness because your abode is evil, chaos, war, selfishness, and murder.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Hitler, Stalin, Charles Manson, Idi Amin and Osama bin Laden. The only self-proclaimed atheist on that group is Stalin. The rest are confirmed theists. In fact, this confirms you are biblically illiterate . Idi Amin and Osama bin Laden were Islamist, meaning you worship essentially the same god they did.

  • @Haywerth You are a lost atheist. You don't put God first and you think I am supposed to take you seriously. You are an atheist which means you are a savage beast. Listening to you is like listening to a blind man teach me how to drive a car on the road. You don't put God first and you don't serve God. You are a hater of God making you an enemy of God.Your path leads to death and destruction. Get behind me satan. God is too powerful for your devilishness.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Making assertions is easy, Providing evidence is hard.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian

    So now you're just going to avoid my comments altogether and lapse into sermonizing. I get it. First you shoot at me at with your best religious ammo. Now you just want to shoot blanks.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Oh, so you are better than me? I can't challenge you? You can come, uninvited to my page, and challenge me; but I can't comment on my own page? LOL.

    Again, what did I say that you can classify as a lie? Quote me. This is at least the sixth/seventh or more time I've asked you this simple question and you can't answer it. Admit you are wrong and we can move on.

    You and Hitler/Idi Amin/bin Laden ALL share the same ideology. Please, pick up a history book.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica Ayanna, if this is you commenting, I am sorry you must deal with people like @IAmAfricanChristian as a repercussion for speaking the TRUTH. Saying you are LOST, because you don't have the same beliefs as he/she? How arrogant, and painfully frustrating. I don't know how you deal with it, but I'd be on suicide watch 24/7 talking to these un-evolved nitwit's. It's one thing to believe in your sky daddy, but to start throwing insults is not very 'christian' like! Hypocrites.

  • @iSoldMySoul2ThaDevil The saddest part is that our society is structured to produce a community of people like iamafricanchristian that cannot think critically. This social structure is manifested in senseless war, racism, and poverty. Religion is basic training for anti-intellectualism.

  • @ray0991 I wouldn't say it's the 'saddest' part, more like the scariest part lol. To think our president's have the supposed same mindset as IAmAfricanChristian is disturbing. But talking to people like you and Ayanna gives me a little more comfort in knowing the world isn't completely retarded.The thing that gets me the most is, when we present the most compelling 'facts' AGAINST their beliefs, they just close their eyes. It's no longer ignorance, no word can describe that level of stupidity

  • I wouldn't say it's the 'saddest' part, more like the scariest part lol. To think our president's have the supposed same mindset as IAmAfricanChristian is disturbing. But talking to people like you and Ayanna gives me a little more comfort in knowing the world isn't completely retarded.The thing that gets me the most is, when we present the most compelling 'facts' AGAINST their beliefs, they just close their eyes. It's no longer ignorance, no word can describe that level of stupidity

  • @ray0991 Religious people like IAmAfricanChristian can't think critically even with in the realm of their own belief system. IAmAfricanChristian brought up Hitler, Manson, and Idi Amin, as if it matters whether or not they were atheists. It doesn't even occur to IAmAfricanChristian that even if those guys were atheists, which they definitely were NOT, all they would have had to do to avoid hell was repent and accept Jesus as their lord & savior. It's the ultimate loophole.

  • @iSoldMySoul2ThaDevil Thank you. It's better online than in person. It's easier to set the pace of the conversation here.

    Yes, they are the first to throw insults via comments or inbox and the last to state their actual issue with you (if any) other than the fact that you think differently. As you can see, he has yet to quote where I have "lied" and continues to insult me.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica The atheists took prayer out of school and now children are bringing knives and guns to school and killing students and teachers. Atheists took prayer out of many homes and now men and women are killing each other and their families. All of this murder and mayhem is what happens when you don't put God first. Violent crime increases when you forsake God. Prayer needs to get back in the homes and schools.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian

    Dena Schlosser: November 2004, amputated the arms of her eleven-month-old daughter, Margaret, with a knife. Claims she heard God commanding her to remove her baby's arm and then her own.

    Andrea Yates: June 2001, Killed her five children in the bathtub "The way I was raising them, they could never be saved. They were doomed to perish in the fires of hell."

    You want murder and mayhem in the name of god, I got plenty more waiting for you.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian

    "All of this murder and mayhem is what happens when you don't put God first."

    The Followers of Christ Church in Oregon City, OR. An investigation found numerous minors, including infants, buried in the church cemetery [yes, the church cemetery] and that they died of preventable causes, including simple infections which could have easily been treated with routine antibiotics.

    This is the kind of mayhem you get when you put "God first."

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian God killed everyone on earth!!!

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Actually, the statistics have shown the opposite. Here again is where you should look at the evidence.

    Violence decreased in homes when the secularists stepped in. Prior to that, there were no punishments for men. Women were the property of their husbands. Now, we have laws - thanks to secularists - which have outlawed many of the practices in the bible.

    Please, I am asking you to stop lying and provide me with a quote from the video in which you think I lied.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Why do you lie so much? Do you not see lying as a negative trait?

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica I am no liar. Your master, the devil, is the creator of lies and deception and you are a great student of your master. I put God first and accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. You are not worthy of speaking about the Holy Bible because you are vile, demon possessed, arrogant, wicked, evil, and the betrayer of God.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian " I am no liar."

    lets count: 1. " I am no liar." 2. "Your master Your master, [is] the devil" 3. "You are not worthy of speaking about the Holy Bible" 4. "because you are vile" 5 "demon possessed" 6. arrogant"" 7. , wicked" 8. " evil" 9. " the betrayer of God"

    And that's just one post!!

  • @ray0991 LOL. I posted almost the same thing. I did not see your comment.  This is hilarious.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian You are a liar!

    "Your master, the devil, is the creator of lies and deception and you are a great student of your master." - lies.

    "I put God first and accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior." - Lies.

    "You are not worthy of speaking about the Holy Bible because you are vile, demon possessed, arrogant, wicked, evil, and the betrayer of God." - Lies.

    "You are an atheist which means you are a savage beast." - Lies.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica You need to take a rest and retire Black Atheists of America. Spare yourself more embarrassment. You have been defeated. No matter how hard you try you can't stop God. I know you have work hard and earned your demonic stripes from the devil. In the devil's army, you are a lieutenant, just a couple ranks away from satan. The devil has been defeated and your atheist movement is dead.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian "You have been defeated." - Lie.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian "The devil has been defeated and your atheist movement is dead." - Lie.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Just stop it man, we know you're a troll.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Seek mental help. You are a danger to society.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica Yesterday, after attending church I came home and listened to Rev. Creflo Dollar and he gave a powerful sermon. In the sermon he mentioned that the devil will come after the believers everyday. He is right and you are the proof. You are one of the devil's high commanding soldiers doing his work to attack Christians, make mockery of the Holy Bible, promote atheism, and spread lies.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Creflo Dollar does not GIVE powerful sermons. Creflo Dollar gets PAID to give powerful sermons on weekly basis with tithes from you and your fellow believers. Creflo Dollar can stop preaching today and he has enough money to last two lifetimes. Can you say the same thing about your job? Of course not because he preaches 1 Timothy 6:10 to you and YOU BELIEVE HIM, even though he owns Rolls-Royces, private jets, and mulit-million dollar homes.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian "You are one of the devil's high commanding soldiers doing his work to attack Christians, make mockery of the Holy Bible, promote atheism, and spread lies." - Lie. When do you stop?

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian (continued) I have an idea. Why don't you and your friend address the ACTUAL claims that you have issues with?

    Both of you have introduced yourself on my channel by insulting me. Neither one of you have noted what you disagree with. The issue is that you two do not have valid arguments, hence you resort to the ad hominem attacks.

  • @JazWeav18 Your statements here are ridiculous. What claims have I made?

    I don't know what started life. Guess, what, neither do you.

    "you can't create something out of nothing?" - then what created your god?

  • @JazWeav18 No logic? Did you even read what you wrote??

  • I'm coming late to this, but this is simply brilliant! And yes, I think the first verse was a summary of the next several verses. Like saying, "Here's a story about a boy," and then you go on to describe the boy. Well done! I look forward to hearing the rest. Wish I could join your conversation as you discuss it.

  • @thedakrogers Welcome. I hope you have as much fun as we do_reading the bible.

  • al·le·go·ry [al-uh-gawr-ee, -gohr-ee] noun, plural -ries.

    1.a representation of an abstract or spiritual meaning through concrete or material forms; figurative treatment of one subject under the guise of another.

  • The moment someone says God is outside of space and time, they remove the possbility of it being evident.

  • The Elohim didn't exactly just pop into existence... They represent the forces of nature -- the laws of physics, if you will - as they understood them. The planets, sun, moon are gods who are the children of the laws of nature. "The deep" would be more accurately "space," or "chaos." The term is sometimes used for the ocean as well. They used to think that space was water, and the earth was like a bubble of land & air floating in it all. This story shows us ancient cosmological thought.

  • In the original Hebrew, the bible does not say "in the beginning." Also, it doesn't say "God." The term that is translated "God" is "Elohim," which means THE GODS - and it is referring to the Sumerian pantheon of deities. This isn't a Yahweh creation story. Now THAT is interesting, and far more useful in discussing bible than taking it literally.

  • The King James is not a good choice for this series. It was a bad translation to begin with, and it is in Shakespearean English, which has changed so much you need a course just to understand the difference. Like -- "These are not nice women" means the opposite of what you would think. "Nice," used to mean "prostitute." In the KJV, everywhere is says "against" it actually means "before." There are tons of issues like these. You should try this series using THE OXFORD or JEWISH STUDY BIBLE.

  • @Soressi1 If these were the ones most frequently used during out debates with christians, we would. However, the KJV, in my experience, has been the most used bible.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica

    I'm confused about your answer; polls don't indicate that. And the KJV is not the translation that the vast majority of Xtian denominations use. Even the Assembly of God uses the New International Version.

    I think you have unmined opportunity.

    E.g. - do you know who the creator of Genesis chapter one is? Everyone thinks its YHWH. Nope - its is the entire pantheon of Canaan. The Elohim -- the gods of El.

    I think atheists would find a deeper study fascinating.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica

    I just realized it may be a denomination demographic thing. The largest single denomination in the U.S. is the Southern Baptist Convention, and they use the KJV.

    Still, that's only 6.7% of the population.

  • I think it is great that you are doing this series. Yet, you fall into the trap that fundamentalists do, by taking it all at face value, or literally. Fundamentalists are a very tiny portion of Xtians - and Jews don't take the bible literally -- which is why they put two versions of every story in, so that no one could then take it literally. Problem is, no one realizes that anymore.

    I will keep each comment to one point, so thats it for this one.

  • @Soressi1 I think you are a bit confused about this series. I, nor Ray, are ignorant of the fact that KJV is a poorly translated version. Both of us have studied religion, not simply christianity. It is not fundamentalists who use this book. In fact about 90% of the rebuttals from christians rely on a KJV verse taken literally. My response to christians has always been for them to read their bible. This series is doing precisely that.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica Which 90% of rebuttals? If its to your site, that's just because you say its the text you are using.

    I do think getting Xtians to read bible is good. They say they believe its the "word of God." Yet, very few of them bother to read the whole thing cover to cover. That proves to any psychoanalyst they do NOT believe its from "God."

  • @Soressi1 "Yet, very few of them bother to read the whole thing cover to cover." -- That is EXACTLY the point, yet you seem to still be confused based on your comments.

    90% of the rebuttals (probably more) received by THIS organization are done with quotes from the KJV, hence the reason we used it for this project.

    I do not see why you are having such difficulty with this.

  • @Soressi1 Let's grant you that a lot of the bible is allegory. I happen to agree. We don't have to take it literally to get the big picture. Understood.

    Here's the problem: If we grant that SOME parts are allegory, how are we to tell which are and which are not? Some stories are blatantly grandiose but others are kind of innocuous. Does ANY of the bible have to be taken literally? See, that's a real problem.

    IE: How do we know the virgin birth and resurrection weren't allegory or embellishment?

  • @2eelShmeal

    It is really easy to tell what was totally meant as allegory, what was meant symbolically, and which pieces were beginning to mistake earlier writings as literal.

    We do know that the virgin birth & resurrection were allegory & embellishment, borrowed from other myths and layered onto the hero-story of Jesus.

  • Do their unbelief make the word of God of none effect? I LOL! at fools, many fools say in their heart, there is no God. I laugh because I cannot imagine, how can a lowly being like me challenge God? I laugh at the thought. Wow you and your pal actually called God gay in one of your videos...sit in the dust and mourn for your souls.

  • @FlawlessJ90 The gay comment was a conclusion based on an actual reading of the bible-- Gen chapters 1 and 2. God is an all powerful being who creates a world full of males. And socializes with other (another) males( male). Sounds gay to me.

  • @ray0991

    No - that's literalism based on thinking it was written in English. The original Hebrew for "adam" is not a proper name. It would be better translated as "of mud" or "earthling" (earth as in soil, not the planet.) The adam was sexless - like a hermaphrodite, only without any sex organs. When the woman was made, it was from the side (translated as rib) of the adam... this was splitting the first being into a male & a female half.

    The comment feels a little homophobic to me.

  • @Soressi1 God call the first human "man". __Not hermaphrodite. According to kjv.

    Blacks, gays, and atheists all have the same struggle. Please don't confuse me with a homophobe

  • @ray0991

    I still think calling God gay, because it looks like he made men 1st if you limit yourself to an English translation, is a homophobic comment because it is meant as a put down. I confuse nothing. If English was good enough for Jesus, its good enough for you, eh? It was written in Hebrew. Adam is a Hebrew word, and it means it was not a male. So besides using "gay" in a derogatory fashion, you are just plain wrong and spreading incorrect concepts - just like the fundamentalists!

  • @Soressi1 And anyone who goes around quoting you is sounds just as ill-informed. Thanks for helping dummy-down the movement!

  • @Soressi1 It's amazing how many atheists disagree with you. :-)

  • @Soressi1 Let me try to clear up my position. While I find bible history a fascinating subject, for the purposes of this show, I don't care what the bible is supposed say. I'm interested only in what it actually says. How it got to be this way is irrelevant.

    "god is gay" is not meant to be a spreadable concept. It is simply my interpretation of what kjv actually says to date. My opinion could change with future verses (but don't count on it).

  • @Soressi1 Saying someone maybe gay is not a put-down. What is wrong with you? How do you draw such an absurd conclusion?

    No one is dumming down the movement except for you. Your homophobic badge is showing.

  • Pharaoh denied the God of Israel. Where is his kingdom today? King Darius king of persia. Where is kingdom today? Nebuchadnezzar also. Where is his kingdom today? many kings have God overthrown and in the "order" he said he would. The only that is left now is Rome, which America is. God said the last nations wound was "healed" and will exercise the things on behalf of the former. LOL! how dumb must you be to "blaspheme" God!

  • @FlawlessJ90 The credibility of ridiculous claims are not enhanced by their appearance in a pre-science, medieval book of fairy tales.

  • I wonder what this IAmaAfricanChristian person thinks of Helen Ukpabio or the atrocites being committed in the name of their God, to the children of Nigeria, and elsewhere in Africa? This "loving" God,allows this to happen to the most vulnerable members of the world yet, wont punish blaspehmers like me. This God is powerless to do anything about it, and needs spokesmen to handle those 'witch" children. Amazing!

  • @OLDSKOOLNYC1 You are showing your lack of knowledge. Almost all people in Nigeria know that Helen Ukpabio is a charlatan and her group is a cult. Helen does not practice and teach what our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ commands. Her actions and ways show that she is a wolf in sheep's clothing that has come to deceive many. The Holy Bible warns us about wicked people like Helen that will come in Jesus Christ's name with the intentions of fooling many.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian again, this shows the fallability of your God. A God that would allow this to happen is not worthy of worship. It goes back the the creation myth, your God cast out Adam and Eve because they didnt obey him, yet in his omipotence would have forseen the Devil corrupting them. He punished them for not following a rule that they could not understand. The same with the Helen person, yet where is your outrage to the atrocities to the children. Why dont you or your God stop it?

  • "He didn't create air yet"

    Holy shit it just started and I already had to pause from laughing so hard. 1 minute in and on the 1st line, the bible's ALREADY got problems....You guys tore it to shreds in 30 seconds flat. RMAO

    Just picturing an all-knowing god that doesn't know where he came from is priceless. His own existence must be a mystery. How could god explain WHY he exists? He is a mystery unto himself. A riddle, trapped in an enigma, surrounded by a quandary, shrouded by a conundrum.

  • To be fair, life just popping into existence is the scientific explanation for the beginning of life too :D As for water on the Earth, there is no convincing answer as to how water came to be on the Earth. There is a theory that it was brought here by an asteroid but that's not universally accepted.

  • @paddywib A reduction to absurdity eh? Please review ABIOGENESIS, there is a lot more to it than just popped into existence. There is no scientific claim of that sort...

  • i cracked up when you guys were discussing how god could be a fish!

  • you two sound so ignorant, more so Ray than you Ayanna.

  • @ladytee1981 What do you expect from someone that rejects God's message and accepts a wicked philosophy called atheism? God is loving and will forgive them if they repent and bare witness to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Atheism is not a philosophy. One cannot reject that what does not exist.

  • Ayanna, girl I love you but this video really is, ironically, just preaching to the choir. It woulda been better if you just straight read the bible without added commentary and let it's absurdities speak for themselves.

  • @hebrewgod Thank you. :-)

    I figured that would be boring. Also, there are already audiobooks for the bible out.

  • This video is silly and those people talking know nothing about the Holy Bible. I am an African from Nigeria and black people love God and Jesus Christ. We are a spiritual people. I love the man and woman talking in the video because they are children of God like me. Jesus Christ loves us all. I have to tell the truth, they are deceiving black people with this atheism nonsense. Black people will be doomed if we disobey God's commandments and forsake righteous living.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Uh huh. Please note where we said something that was incorrect.

    You are not telling the truth. You are hear promoting one religion and claiming that it is true.

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica The Holy Bible says telling lies is sin and I speak truth. I am here to defend the Holy Bible. The Holy Bible was not written in English. The Old Testament was originally written in Hebrew and the New Testament was written in Koine Greek. To understand the Holy Bible you must understand the languages it was written in and the history of when it was written. Try debating a Christian scholar and you will see you know nothing about the Holy Bible.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Actually, most religious scholars are atheists. The bible is full of lies. Does "sin" apply here too? Simply saying, "I speak truth" does not make it true.

    I'm aware that the origins of the bible were not in English. However, most christians would argue that the KJV is an accurate depiction of the original texts. Hence, the reason they follow it.

    Are you saying that the KJV is inaccurate? Would you argue that over 99.9% of christians do not understand the bible?

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica I have a sneaking suspicion that someone is allowing emotion and a false sense of pride (perhaps understandably) instead of reason. Sometimes though, life throws so much at a person that logic and reason are almost impossible. I'm not making excuses, just trying to understand why.

    Also, don't let these people tell you this is boring. This shit never gets old. Besides you and Ray make a good team. He sounds funny. I can hear the smiles...lol

  • @BlackAtheistsAmerica God constantly gives me blessings because I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. Everyday I wake up with a smile on my face feeling happy. You are an angry person who wants to deny the existence of God. Anger can lead to hypertension, heart disease, atherosclerosis, depression, mental illness, obesity, and diabetes. Atheists are angry people that attract disease into their lives. Everyday I smile and thank Jesus Christ.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian do you realize how much you loose when translating one language to another? so for something to go from ancient hebrew, to greek, to latin, to english...that's THREE language translations! by this time, the true meaning of said scriptures has become lost in translation. example; in the koran, muhammed promised his followers virgins in heaven, but the origin of the word used, "virgin", is syriac in origin, with it's actual meaning being that of "white raisins".

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian this also shows the fallability of your deity. Why would an omnipotent, omniscient being create the Bible, that could only be understood in one language? A book, that relies on text, in dead langauges, and all we have are copies, of copies, of translations of copies, with no original manuscripts, we dont know who the authors are. Took decades to create the canon we know today, and this was supposed to be designed by an all powerful being?33,000 demominations but were wrong.

  • @OLDSKOOLNYC1 You lack knowledge because you do have God's blessings. Accept Jesus Christ into your life and he will bestow you with knowledge and wisdom and allow you to understand his word.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian

    if he wanted me to understand, he wouldn't author a book of nonsense.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian I lack knowledge because I don't have God's blessing? First of all how do you know this? secondly, I dont want any blessings from the God of your Bible, it doesn't exist, and even if it did, I would never worship it! The God of the Bible is a Monster, who only cares about 1 tribe. I guess I need to have faith to understand, instead of reading, and study to try a determine whether or not if any of this is true. Once I have faith it will all come to me?

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian I agree... So, given the times, EVERYONE at least in that area of the world believed in multiple gods. So, a careful reading of the bible will show that the people who originally wrote the passages believed in multiple gods. The idea of a single god was edited into the text later...

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian - No you are deceiving people with this Bible bullshit.

  • @Apanage21 Atheism has turned you into a very angry person. Accept Jesus Christ into your life and you will find out what it means to have a life filled with peace, love, joy, success, prosperity, and abundance. Jesus Christ is the way. Jesus Christ loves you.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian - I really don't know where you Christians get this "anger" stuff. It is possible that you are feeling the energy of folks being fed-up with grown people talking nonsense. I have already built a life filled with peace, love, joy, success, prosperity, and abundance (I am successfully self-employed) - without beseeching supernatural assistance. It is easier for an Atheist to build a good life because his total focus is on the reality before him - and not in the sky.

  • @Apanage21 I love you and God loves you much more. To prove that I love you and all of the other misguided souls who call themselves Black atheists, I will say a prayer everyday for all of you to turn your lives over to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ loves all of his sons and daughters. Jesus Christ is the reason you are successfully self-employed but you don't know it yet. Hopefully you will not wait until you are on your deathbed to bear witness to the power and love of Jesus Christ.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Please stop speaking for me as a black person. I don't believe there is a god, and I don't like Jesus ( or think he ever existed 0, just stop generalizing ( because we all share a skin color, we share a mindset ), it's offensive.

  • @sdacrowe You are like a coconut (black outside and white inside) Black people love Jesus Christ and God. We are a religious and spiritual people that love God, family, our community, and life. You have accepted white people's wicked philosophy of atheism. I hope you repent from this wickedness before God gets tired of you being disobedient and decides to punish you. I have warned you and now it is up to you to change your ways.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian First, I am convinced you are a troll, which means the stupid things you say are just for shock value or a laugh. Second, you offend black people when you imply that being intelligent ( asking questions & critically thinking for yourself ) is a white thing, therefore, I'm convinced you are probably a racist troll pretending to be something you are not to entertain yourself. Get a life, & some education, you are wasting serious people's ( Theist & Atheist ) time here.

  • @sdacrowe I am convinced you are a fool and aid the devil. I take the teachings of Jesus Christ very seriously. It is my way of life. I am a full time Christian who lives the life as a Christian 24 hours everyday. Too many Christians are part timers. I make it my duty and responsibility to introduce Jesus Christ to all people that I meet and to help save souls. You have aligned yourself with the devil and can not fool me by using words like "asking questions & critically thinking."

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian The devil isn't real, you're a nutcase, and since you believe there is a hell, please find your way to it. Leave me & all black people alone. Have a blessed day (I'm totally being facetious when I say that). Racist troll!

  • @sdacrowe You can't handle the truth. God's truth is too powerful for you because you are filled with satan. The devil guides your life and makes you deny God's existence. I am here to irritate and aggravate you so you can come back to God's kingdom and see that the grass is much greener on God's side. God breathed into man the breath of life and man became a living soul. Connect to your soul and you will always walk with God. God will never leave you. Always praise Jesus Christ.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian How do you distinguish between fact and fiction? I choose to weight evidence. Whats your method?

  • @ray0991 I use the most powerful method to weight evidence and it is called "The Jesus Christ is the way method." I know that is is too deep for your limited atheist mind to comprehend. When you align yourself with God, all answers will be given unto you. Fact = Jesus Christ is our personal Lord and Saviors. Fiction = atheist philosophy which is false and demonic. You don't want to challenge me because you will lose all the time because I have God on my side.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian So, you believe that asking an invisible magic man for answers is Superior to using the scientific method?

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian

    "You don't want to challenge me because you will lose all the time because I have God on my side."

    Which god might that be? There are a lot of gods out there.

    Do you really think atheism is demonic? Obviously as a theist you consider atheism to be false, and it is your right to be wrong about that, but demonic? You mean to say you actually believe in demons?

    Might want to take your medication.

  • @IAmaAfricanChristian Let's assume there is some deception... Where is there ANY evidence of a god of ANY sort? The bible itself is a conflicted mess which makes the claim of a perfect all-knowing all-powerful omnipresent all-good god absolutely absurd. Check out the tower of babel story if you need a sample of problems...<