@heinzpo This may have actually been the last gig they did as Television.. it was supposed to be all the suriving members at this show, but Richard Lloyd ended up in the hospital last minute
@TheGreatGallbo No, it wasn't their last gig. In 2011, they did a couple of gigs in Brazil. There are a few videos of these shows on YouTube as a 3-part interview with MTV Brazil. During this interview there was even talk of a new album. Richard Lloyd has left the band though. Jimmy Rip has taken his place.
@asSwanski Thanks for the heads up... I'll have to look for those vids. This was easily one of the best shows I have ever seen, and I've seen way too many to count.
Tom Verlaine is one of the great guitarists , no question..and "Marquee Moon" is one of the greatest lps ( and songs) of all time ..I dare anyone, new to the brilliance of Television to listen to that record from beginning to end..The experience will leave you in awe and you will listen to The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, U2.( the list is endless) and think to yourself "Fuck , .I won't listen to another ignorant twat who tells me the Strokes have created the new rock"
When I first listened to MM, I was indifferent. I listened to it maybe three or four time that year. Then one day, for some strange reason, it was a completely new record to my ears, and I listened to it non-stop for weeks. Now I have all their albums and bootlegs as well as all of Tom Verlaine's stuff. Ha ha. I remember browsing the Television mailing list and a lot of the hardcore fans weren't exactly converts upon first listen either.
@machiaveliyoohoo No need to underplay the Strokes' proclivity for great, affecting music craftmanship because you need to praise a cornerstone. Yes this is great stuff and influenced a lot of good concurrent bands. But so did a lot of other bands (the smiths, blondie, velvet underground, etc.); such influences shaped the direction and means by which a current band like the strokes creates music. You can't compare two generations of sound on the same platform just because u hear similarities
Hahahahha. Are you even old enough to be high? Listen to "See No Evil", "Guiding Light", "Friction", "Venus". And if you still feel that way...then you're a Philistine.
I'm glad to see bands like Television and Big Star not in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame because institutions of that ilk are a joke anyhow. Why would anyone give a toss whether or not they accepted you into their patronizing clique. People with half of a brain and an open heart will know what true rock and roll is, not some group of self-important clowns looking to get paid.
OH! Well, I gotta tell my teacher that because he really likes them... dunno how he thought they only had one album... Well that makes things less.... odd... and surprising...
I remember this concert being, unfortunately, disctinctly awkward and lackluster, I suppose not completely by fault of the band (it was rainy, they didn't get a soundcheck, they didn't have Llloyd). However, I was pretty disappointed by the setlist - apart from Venus, I remember this being the only song they played from MM, not counting the unrecognizable "re-working" of 'Prove It'. But hey at least it was free. Bit of a sad finale to a great band though, if it is.
yes yes yes, it was begining of June, 2007 just to put a period on all this conversation about the date. I shot the video, and the date I posted it was a week or so after the show.
The date is shown on the top corner of the screen :-)Although I didnt even realise it was the real television I just thought it was a good cover.Ah well cant talk here all night.
No, this was summer of 2007. It was billed as Television's last performance, since Richard Lloyd was leaving the band. He didn't perform at this show; he was supposedly recovering from pneumonia. Jimmy Ripp filled in for him at this show. I drove four hours to see this, since it was, they said, the last time.
The album "Marquee Moon" was co-produced by Andy Johns. Re. Bobak Jons Malone, who cut the early psych prog LP "Motherlight" in 1969 at Morgan Studios. I saw Televisions earliest London gigs 1977 with Blondie supporting. Jesus and his intregal tambourine was at the front, stage left!!
Look, Television influenced nearly EVERYONE, from U2 to R.E.M. to the Pixies to just about every indie band of the last 30 years. So even if someone wasn't influenced by them directly, they were influenced by them via someone else that Television influenced. It is just ludicrous that they still aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Nor is Big Star. Until those two bands get in the R&R HOF will remain a joke.
Amen. I'd like to add the Smiths to that list.. lol, but yes, it's a crime to know that television or Big Star isn't in... it's very odd when Madonna gets in before either of those acts. Two other acts that I am surprised that aren't in the Hall that have had both commercial and critical praise are the Cars and Cheap Trick... or is Cheap Trick in and I don't know it? But yeah, the Hall effs up a lot
If we mean influential then Husker Du and The Replacements should be there as well, of course they didn't have commercial praise but Big Star didn't as well. I mean, both those bands influenced the 90's grunge breakthrough. Then again, I do not car much for the Hall
@TheGreatGallbo fuck the hall of fags who gives a fuck just an excuse for a bunch af old hacks to get pissed on the record /television co's expense account and suck up to some 2 bob legends ,,or in MIke "suckhole" Love's case prove what at total fuckwit you are just have a look at some of the deadshits that have been inducted ...
yeah... thinkin about security staff at concerts reminds me of travelling with an airplane. it's that they always treat you as if you're some poor criminal...
and the guard came into the crowd like "excuse me sir, any form of recording, taping etc is prohibi....."?
Nah... I was actually lucky, as this was the last song they did.. AND it got cut chort by the central park staff.. b/c 7 PM was the 'noise cerfew' or something.
But.. it was some big guy who pointed to me at first and then shook his head... I acted like I didn't see him then he came over just saying "Hey Hey! No cameras man" ... I think it had something to do with that they were taping for NY1, who only taped the apples in stereo that day.
the song is great, really! but... why upload half a live performance man?! it's not enough the quality is creepy cause you "taped" it with a freakin cellphone - it's half the song! that's unfair!
Didn't tape it with a cell phone.. actually w/ a "flip video" cam-corder which is easy to sneak into shows and gets decent sounds and video. As for the abridged video, I wish I could have taken the whole15 minutes that it was (and it was amazing) but the security guard shut me down. And i wasn't about to have my stuff taken y'know? I only wish I had this whole performance... it was AMAZING.
So, I think that's fair enough, considfering this is the best quality and longest from this show
Thanks for posting this. I bought this album when it came out, I was 12. I used to say to friends: "I got this album, Marquee Moon, that's fantastic, by a New York band, Television". Nobody knew them. I think it was 10 years before I met people who were into them. It looks like they've all aged prematurely tho'. Mick Jagger and David Bowie look like teenagers in comparison....
the only true Van Nuys lies in the vast congestion of the valley, lol. Where in the valley do you hail?
And yes, Television is scary good a constant inspiration, I think I go through their catalog every week. Albeit a short catalog, but a worthy trip in any case.
Yes there are some Television moments on the Strokes but I really Dont think its their main influence...I love the Strokes and all but Television in more complex, Strokes are straight pop (good pop) and Television is more artsy in my opinion
Hombre, claro, sus diferencias tienen, pero hay que reconocer, que el sonido de The Strokes (me refiero a las distintas voces en la guitarra rímica, el bajo, los solos) es muy similar al de Television... Es más, varias personas a las que "introducido en el mudo de Television" pensaban que era una banda actual...
(translation) They actually have some differences, but it's true that The Strokes' sound (I mean: different voices on rythmic guitar, the bass lines, solos) is quite similar to Television's... Furthermore, some people that were introduced in "Television's world" by me, thought they were a band from the 2000's...
@lasfinisimas I agree. I love both bands, but The Strokes music is more fun and straightforward, while Television songs usually require multiple listens (and weed) to appreciate.
Actually he did it for 8 minutes or so, maybe longer.. it was intense, a real shame the security guard caught me filming...
But, they were jamming and jamming, and the stage manager was pointing to his wrist watch and yelling "TOOOOMMM!" as to notify him that they were over the nosie ordinance time. Tom looked over his shoulder at the man, gave a nice little msirk, and continued playing for about another two minutes.
They didn't even finish with the last verse, but it was miind blowing
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
So, I am to understand that Rory Gallagher had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher.
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
Satriani plays fast, not complicated. He has ABSOLUTELY NO BAND INTERPLAY! He completely ignores his band. As a man raised on Lee Konitz jazz, interplay is were I get the emotion and enjoyment from music.
Satriani, Vai, and many others play guitar not music. Zappa, Verlaine, and Sharrock play music on a guitar. I don't want to devalue shredders, excellent players, but one guy playing quick isn't hard, its professional. This song has great interplay during the solos cut out in this video.
I agree that Mr. Satriani is an excellent guitarist and that students of the instrument should give his work at least a look. But I don't listen to it very often.
Who is "Rory"? I would like to listen to this player as you clearly have musical knowledge, and I will happily trust your taste in this instance.
As I write this, I've only experienced a few videos on YouTube. But from what I have heard, he seems to be an excellent blues player in the British pick-based blues style. He's even got that great Yardbirds/Honky Tonk tone when he plays slide.
He has a great rocking edge though, which I like. His middle solo in "Cradle Rock" was very entertaining.
I'd rather invest before forming my final opinion though. What album would you recommend?
My fav is TATTOO. Great songs. But if you want to get a taste of how great he was on guitar, try LIVE IN EUROPE. There is also an outstanding DVD called RORY GALLAGHER LIVE AT MONTREUX. My understanding is that he was invited to join the Stones when Mick Taylor left. That is a great "could have been." He would have added so much more to the band than Wood did. Much better guitarist, decent singer, and multi-instrumentalist. I saw him less than a year before he died. Huge talent.
Do you play any instrument?? It's very very difficult to play like this and get a good cover, all your pentatonics and power chords don't make it here......
Your attitude Danny is why we have so many musicians in the world with formal training that lack any ounce of originality or emotion when they play. It might as well be noise. To say you can play like Tom Verlaine because you're "classically trained" is like saying you can paint like Picasso or Van Gogh just because you've gone to art school. Give me a break.
I hate to burst your bubble, but there are many people who can play like this, even better than this, who are ten times more underground than television.
I could care less what's underground and what's mainstream. I just care whether the complete work is great in all of its components: originality, melody, lyrics, musicianship and all the players are cohesive as one entity. If you can a write and perform your own material that excels at all of those things then I'm your fan :). But if you can only claim to play guitar and solo like Verlaine or Lloyd (and better) then that means nothing. You might as well be a parrot with a six-string.
Probably because Television isn't all that easy to pick up. Their music is not terribly complex, but there are a lot of dual guitar parts that you have to get just right, and none of it is in the familiar minor pentatonic blues mode upon which most rock is based.
Search youTube for "Amps Do Furnish A Room". They seem to do a good job.
This is friggin grt. It don't feel as bad that I can't get that magic chord (into "just waiting" and "hesitating") to resound, or dare I say, even *sound* like like it it did on the album, 'cuz apparently they can't either. Still grt.
WOW, They will forever remain in my top 5 bands, I bought Marquee Moon and Magazines Real Life on the same day and was changed forever... goodbye Supertramp!
How this was ever lumped in with the rest of early punk is beyond me. I remember a reviewer calling Television the "Grateful Dead of punk rock." But Marquee Moon is such an incredible album who gives a fuck to classify it. It's great music, one of my fave albums of all time.
Hey I seem to remember reading that Grateful Dead comparison somewhere back in the day. How unbelievably ignorant is that!!! Television didn't bear comparisons with anyone at all which was a problem for all those hack reviewers who lacked the ability to see that.
OK. I'm no musician but I think I can see what you mean. I used to have a few of the early Dead albums way back in the early '70s. There was a lot of that extended jamming stuff on the "Live Dead" album as I recall. Other than that though the 2 bands were worlds apart.
Yeah, the Dead never really did it for me. Television, on the other hand... Verlaine has a way of making his guitar cry that I could listen to forever. It took me a while, but I even got into their self-titled 90s album.
Yea, I've got just about all of his solo albums. They're among my all-time favourite records. The Lloyd/Verlaine combination was a great one but he and Jimmy Ripp go really well together too. Have you seen the clips for "Bomb" and "A town called Walker" on You Tube?
Jimmy Ripp definitely plays on "Flashlight" and "Cover". I'm not sure if he plays on "Words from the front" and "The Wonder" and he didn't play on the "Tom Verlaine" and "Dreamtime" albums. I'd rate "Flashlight" as my favourite Verlaine solo album but there are great tracks on all of them except maybe "Warm and Cool" which is an instrumental album and a real oddity that I find very dull.
Try it at your own risk brother! I tell you, it's like The Ventures on Mandrax. Hear that and you'll think Tom Verlaine sucks! That's the last place you wanna go.
I personally think the all-instrumental "Warm and Cool" is Tom Verlaine's best solo record -- so much so that I often give it as a gift.
It's a subdued effort but with dazzling creative playing throughout. Enigmatic little snippets of ideas that seamlessly flow one into the other, some jazzy, some punky, some ???, but all good. If you like the soundtrack of David Lynch's "Twin Peaks", you'll really like "Warm and Cool".
"Have you seen the clips for "Bomb" and "A town called Walker" on You Tube?"
That Bomb clip pernicketty here is referring to (search youTube for "Tom Verlaine Bomb" is well worth searching for. Stay with it, as it just builds and builds. Great example of some nasty, nasty guitar playing by Verlaine.
If you're a Verlaine fan, you should search Youtube for "Tom Verlaine and Jimmy Rip - Music for Experimental Film" There are three clips from the program in which they played to short silent films.
U2's 'THE EDGE' has noted 'Televisions' "Marqee Moon" as one of his favorite all time records. Quoting The Edge "I love Marquee Moon. Fuck the songs listen to the guitar playing".
This is Tom Verlaine -- when has his voice ever *not* sucked? And when has his attitude betrayed giving a shit about anything, except for the music? His fuck you attitude is essentially unchanged from the early CBGB days, when Television was topping bills that included Patti Smith, Blondie, the Talking Heads and The Ramones; that's a huge part of his appeal.
That and the fact that Verlaine plays mixolydian mode like no living person on the planet.
As fave & great a band as I ever saw...Toronto '92...just heard the sad news that Richard Lloyd is leaving the band, after 34 years...this, mi amigos, is/was Television's last stand...let's await the, hopeful, reunion...
He he, saw them doing this in Stockholm 92 (I believe). Did they perform any songs from Toms solo records? I would give anything to see him performing the awesome music from "The Wonder" and "Flashlightning".
I'm going to post w/e else I have... I wasn't sure on the stuff they played that wasn't off of either Marquee Moon or Adventure... all ican say is they jam A LOT... oh, and this song lasted a good 15 minutes.. but The Man shut me down early :-(
Nice job! I don't suppose you caught any of "Persia", which was the song they did right BEFORE MM? That was AWESOME. Of course, this is the MOST awesome.
Never thought they were all that great. The Cars have this sound down so much better.
ozarkful 1 month ago
Love the high pitched wow that you expell hehehe. What happened to Television finally? They keep playing?
heinzpo 4 months ago
@heinzpo This may have actually been the last gig they did as Television.. it was supposed to be all the suriving members at this show, but Richard Lloyd ended up in the hospital last minute
TheGreatGallbo 3 months ago
@TheGreatGallbo No, it wasn't their last gig. In 2011, they did a couple of gigs in Brazil. There are a few videos of these shows on YouTube as a 3-part interview with MTV Brazil. During this interview there was even talk of a new album. Richard Lloyd has left the band though. Jimmy Rip has taken his place.
asSwanski 4 weeks ago
@asSwanski Thanks for the heads up... I'll have to look for those vids. This was easily one of the best shows I have ever seen, and I've seen way too many to count.
TheGreatGallbo 2 weeks ago
HEY !!! WATCH JELLY PLANE on YOUTUBE !!!
Mrlebricabrac 4 months ago
still lookin great
radioheadsundays 10 months ago
listen
ArcadeStroke 1 year ago
I checked this album out at the library and fell in love with it on my second listen. Great album!
sejb12992 1 year ago
Richard's busting my chops at the moment....won't deny his genius, howevever
scottalias 1 year ago
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MariosSoul 1 year ago
Love you, Tom Verlaine...
moremoxi 1 year ago
Tom Verlaine is one of the great guitarists , no question..and "Marquee Moon" is one of the greatest lps ( and songs) of all time ..I dare anyone, new to the brilliance of Television to listen to that record from beginning to end..The experience will leave you in awe and you will listen to The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, U2.( the list is endless) and think to yourself "Fuck , .I won't listen to another ignorant twat who tells me the Strokes have created the new rock"
machiaveliyoohoo 1 year ago 9
@machiaveliyoohoo
When I first listened to MM, I was indifferent. I listened to it maybe three or four time that year. Then one day, for some strange reason, it was a completely new record to my ears, and I listened to it non-stop for weeks. Now I have all their albums and bootlegs as well as all of Tom Verlaine's stuff. Ha ha. I remember browsing the Television mailing list and a lot of the hardcore fans weren't exactly converts upon first listen either.
rollagasper 1 year ago
@machiaveliyoohoo No need to underplay the Strokes' proclivity for great, affecting music craftmanship because you need to praise a cornerstone. Yes this is great stuff and influenced a lot of good concurrent bands. But so did a lot of other bands (the smiths, blondie, velvet underground, etc.); such influences shaped the direction and means by which a current band like the strokes creates music. You can't compare two generations of sound on the same platform just because u hear similarities
Smythe1800 1 year ago 2
@machiaveliyoohoo and you can add talking heads and 80s king crimson to that list
gtr1359 1 year ago
@machiaveliyoohoo
The song Reptilia by the strokes alone takes the cake from any fucking thing Television has ever done.
The strokes are here to stay.
VegasSkateCulture 1 year ago
@VegasSkateCulture
Hahahahha. Are you even old enough to be high? Listen to "See No Evil", "Guiding Light", "Friction", "Venus". And if you still feel that way...then you're a Philistine.
TedPalen 7 months ago
@TedPalen That's mature of you.
youhavegeniusshins 5 months ago
@machiaveliyoohoo
i agree with this statement
shaggyjman 5 months ago
Great Band!
youdirtyrats 1 year ago
Found this by accident!!!
BRILLIANT!!!
Thank you for posting!
jok666 1 year ago
I'm glad to see bands like Television and Big Star not in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame because institutions of that ilk are a joke anyhow. Why would anyone give a toss whether or not they accepted you into their patronizing clique. People with half of a brain and an open heart will know what true rock and roll is, not some group of self-important clowns looking to get paid.
daffydyl 1 year ago
This was a great show, but it was sad that Richard was too sick to make their last show.
Genessender 1 year ago
ahem
stubbypeeps 1 year ago
Cool! My guitar teacher told me to cheak them out... They're Awesome! I'm surprised they only made 1 album... :(....
mymusicmaddness 1 year ago
@mymusicmaddness - Three. Marquee Moon, Adventure and Television.
Timmybear 1 year ago
OH! Well, I gotta tell my teacher that because he really likes them... dunno how he thought they only had one album... Well that makes things less.... odd... and surprising...
mymusicmaddness 1 year ago
amazing the way that they play the guitar!
fabsmarx 2 years ago
the beeeeeeest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
objetovolantenoiden 2 years ago
I was there. Great to see this guys for the first time.
vivelavidarocka 2 years ago
tesão pacas... muito legal!!
eu curto
engberonha 2 years ago
I thought this song was 10 minutes long!
hubba436 2 years ago
they are so calm.. I would jump and run if I could play marquee moon with them on stage
TininSkywithDiamonds 2 years ago 2
cool song , another great classic :) enjoy..
potchoker 2 years ago
me comopre el disoc hace 20 minutos !
nisoniton 2 years ago
I remember this concert being, unfortunately, disctinctly awkward and lackluster, I suppose not completely by fault of the band (it was rainy, they didn't get a soundcheck, they didn't have Llloyd). However, I was pretty disappointed by the setlist - apart from Venus, I remember this being the only song they played from MM, not counting the unrecognizable "re-working" of 'Prove It'. But hey at least it was free. Bit of a sad finale to a great band though, if it is.
mark1800 2 years ago
Damn, it would have been nice to have the WHOLE SONG!
NICKHAM16 2 years ago 2
yes yes yes, it was begining of June, 2007 just to put a period on all this conversation about the date. I shot the video, and the date I posted it was a week or so after the show.
TheGreatGallbo 2 years ago
The date is shown on the top corner of the screen :-)Although I didnt even realise it was the real television I just thought it was a good cover.Ah well cant talk here all night.
cartonesque 2 years ago
I think it was on the summer of 2007 that they performed in Central Park
jacquizhinin 2 years ago
Date and year of this performance??
luistownmassacre 2 years ago
Pretty sure begining of June 2009.. it was the first concert of the Central Park Summer Stage series that year
TheGreatGallbo 2 years ago
So they're touring this year?
luistownmassacre 2 years ago
I think it was in 2007 that Television performed for Summer Stage in Central Park
jacquizhinin 2 years ago
Yeah, I meant to write '07... guess my mind was driftin, they definately didn't play this year
TheGreatGallbo 2 years ago
No, this was summer of 2007. It was billed as Television's last performance, since Richard Lloyd was leaving the band. He didn't perform at this show; he was supposedly recovering from pneumonia. Jimmy Ripp filled in for him at this show. I drove four hours to see this, since it was, they said, the last time.
Salguine 2 years ago
The album "Marquee Moon" was co-produced by Andy Johns. Re. Bobak Jons Malone, who cut the early psych prog LP "Motherlight" in 1969 at Morgan Studios. I saw Televisions earliest London gigs 1977 with Blondie supporting. Jesus and his intregal tambourine was at the front, stage left!!
minutegongcoughs 2 years ago
Look, Television influenced nearly EVERYONE, from U2 to R.E.M. to the Pixies to just about every indie band of the last 30 years. So even if someone wasn't influenced by them directly, they were influenced by them via someone else that Television influenced. It is just ludicrous that they still aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Nor is Big Star. Until those two bands get in the R&R HOF will remain a joke.
whosiskid 2 years ago 15
Amen. I'd like to add the Smiths to that list.. lol, but yes, it's a crime to know that television or Big Star isn't in... it's very odd when Madonna gets in before either of those acts. Two other acts that I am surprised that aren't in the Hall that have had both commercial and critical praise are the Cars and Cheap Trick... or is Cheap Trick in and I don't know it? But yeah, the Hall effs up a lot
TheGreatGallbo 2 years ago
If we mean influential then Husker Du and The Replacements should be there as well, of course they didn't have commercial praise but Big Star didn't as well. I mean, both those bands influenced the 90's grunge breakthrough. Then again, I do not car much for the Hall
Joe1039 2 years ago
@TheGreatGallbo fuck the hall of fags who gives a fuck just an excuse for a bunch af old hacks to get pissed on the record /television co's expense account and suck up to some 2 bob legends ,,or in MIke "suckhole" Love's case prove what at total fuckwit you are just have a look at some of the deadshits that have been inducted ...
mugwamp4 9 months ago
@whosiskid WOW, Television is not in the Hall of Fame? They are unbelievably awesome, and you're right about how influential they are too.
paulwhitberg 1 year ago
@whosiskid
they influenced the most important influential rock band in Spanish rock history, Soda Stereo, so yeah, I have to agree.
Arbiterisl33t69 2 months ago
not many views not like the rutles
grfcc 2 years ago
Nice Music, Shalimar(dot)es
Buena Musica, Shalimar(punto)es
shalimarcanarias 2 years ago
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This act has the worst singer I've ever heard --nice bass tone though.
swofts45 2 years ago
tuuuuuuuunnnnnne
supervillainy 2 years ago
mmm
1MOVIE123 2 years ago
My Favourite Band In my Whole Life!
nosferatuguagua 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing a great song!
plattform5163 2 years ago
yeah... thinkin about security staff at concerts reminds me of travelling with an airplane. it's that they always treat you as if you're some poor criminal...
and the guard came into the crowd like "excuse me sir, any form of recording, taping etc is prohibi....."?
tripiseriphos 2 years ago
Nah... I was actually lucky, as this was the last song they did.. AND it got cut chort by the central park staff.. b/c 7 PM was the 'noise cerfew' or something.
But.. it was some big guy who pointed to me at first and then shook his head... I acted like I didn't see him then he came over just saying "Hey Hey! No cameras man" ... I think it had something to do with that they were taping for NY1, who only taped the apples in stereo that day.
But yeah, I got some of the other songs as well
TheGreatGallbo 2 years ago
the song is great, really! but... why upload half a live performance man?! it's not enough the quality is creepy cause you "taped" it with a freakin cellphone - it's half the song! that's unfair!
tripiseriphos 2 years ago
Didn't tape it with a cell phone.. actually w/ a "flip video" cam-corder which is easy to sneak into shows and gets decent sounds and video. As for the abridged video, I wish I could have taken the whole15 minutes that it was (and it was amazing) but the security guard shut me down. And i wasn't about to have my stuff taken y'know? I only wish I had this whole performance... it was AMAZING.
So, I think that's fair enough, considfering this is the best quality and longest from this show
TheGreatGallbo 2 years ago
You did great :D,
KidA270 2 years ago
great guitar solos i love this song too.
TSOLD9000 2 years ago
I simply love this song!
Alastorm89 2 years ago
thanks for posting this video. i'm brazilian guy, and i never see them!! sorry my english!!
natercio22 3 years ago 3
Thanks for posting this. I bought this album when it came out, I was 12. I used to say to friends: "I got this album, Marquee Moon, that's fantastic, by a New York band, Television". Nobody knew them. I think it was 10 years before I met people who were into them. It looks like they've all aged prematurely tho'. Mick Jagger and David Bowie look like teenagers in comparison....
kidcalabria 3 years ago
I can name about 5 tunes that when I fist heard them made me think I've never heard anything like that before... and this is one.
clivetemple 3 years ago 3
Oh that is amazing. Weird seeing TV without a Jazzmaster in his hand however....
Thanks for posting.
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mstrtumnus 3 years ago
Did anyone hear about how in france they named this street rue rory gallagher? This song is so intense. You can hear television in many modern bands.
jackalope101 3 years ago
I don't hear near enough television in today's band. A couple maybe, but no one comes close. This band changed how I played guitar.
funkyfoolfromVanNuys 3 years ago
yeah you're from the san fernando valley too!Unless it's another Van Nuys... It's amazing how right this band got it...they just killed it.
jackalope101 3 years ago
the only true Van Nuys lies in the vast congestion of the valley, lol. Where in the valley do you hail?
And yes, Television is scary good a constant inspiration, I think I go through their catalog every week. Albeit a short catalog, but a worthy trip in any case.
funkyfoolfromVanNuys 3 years ago
I agree with you man!
leftnutnamedchancey 3 years ago
I hear some of them in The Strokes.
stevieVantanna 2 years ago
you got right!!! they stole from television!!
facusrock 2 years ago
Just SOME of them?? The Strokes are Television (part 2)
jarlcarrerorl 2 years ago
Although The Strokes claim not to even *like* Television
jordz84 2 years ago
Yes there are some Television moments on the Strokes but I really Dont think its their main influence...I love the Strokes and all but Television in more complex, Strokes are straight pop (good pop) and Television is more artsy in my opinion
lasfinisimas 2 years ago 4
Hombre, claro, sus diferencias tienen, pero hay que reconocer, que el sonido de The Strokes (me refiero a las distintas voces en la guitarra rímica, el bajo, los solos) es muy similar al de Television... Es más, varias personas a las que "introducido en el mudo de Television" pensaban que era una banda actual...
jarlcarrerorl 2 years ago
Huh?
sjk72 2 years ago
(translation) They actually have some differences, but it's true that The Strokes' sound (I mean: different voices on rythmic guitar, the bass lines, solos) is quite similar to Television's... Furthermore, some people that were introduced in "Television's world" by me, thought they were a band from the 2000's...
jarlcarrerorl 2 years ago
Thank you. That was very well written.
sjk72 2 years ago
Por favor, dejemos las comparaciones estúpidas para grupos estúpidos como U2 o Coldplay.
No ensuciemos el nombre de Television.
Los Strokes son un puto bluff como el resto de bandas de su generación, su único merito ha sido copiar mal a grandes grupos.
david986570 2 years ago 2
Y qué estoy diciendo???
jarlcarrerorl 2 years ago
No sabes si los Strokes tocan un cover de Television?
nikolaistrokero 2 years ago
Que yo sepa, no...
jarlcarrerorl 2 years ago
Lee un par de comentarios más abajo...
jarlcarrerorl 2 years ago
what is ensuciemos?
josepolo950 2 years ago
get dirt
mctsoundsistem 2 years ago
gracias !!!
josepolo950 2 years ago
@lasfinisimas I agree. I love both bands, but The Strokes music is more fun and straightforward, while Television songs usually require multiple listens (and weed) to appreciate.
samtastic333 1 year ago
Is that two streets down from Rue De Jerry Lewis?
ruderocker 3 years ago
no its next to rue de rocker!!!!LOL!!!!!!
josepolo950 3 years ago
Did Tom do one of his signature 5-7 minute solos in this performance?
tomlyoldhappyderek1 3 years ago
Actually he did it for 8 minutes or so, maybe longer.. it was intense, a real shame the security guard caught me filming...
But, they were jamming and jamming, and the stage manager was pointing to his wrist watch and yelling "TOOOOMMM!" as to notify him that they were over the nosie ordinance time. Tom looked over his shoulder at the man, gave a nice little msirk, and continued playing for about another two minutes.
They didn't even finish with the last verse, but it was miind blowing
TheGreatGallbo 3 years ago
I think he just loses himself in the soloing.
And everything around him just blocks out.
tomlyoldhappyderek1 3 years ago
wow that sux you weren't able to film the rest of it.
leftnutnamedchancey 3 years ago
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
josepolo950 3 years ago
So, I am to understand that Rory Gallagher had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher.
Helpfully,
-WS
wildshovel 3 years ago
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
josepolo950 3 years ago
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
josepolo950 3 years ago
he had so many fans in france that shortly after his death they changed one street name to rue Rory Ggallagher. that was great, thanks for maintioning him Iam now going to search for him on u tube havnt lessen to himsince1978. french lady old fan
josepolo950 3 years ago
I wish Tom Verlaine's vocals had aged as well as his playing,and also I wish the video would be the full 10 minutes...
I'm jealous of you,I'm only about an hour from NYC and I love Television.
tomlyoldhappyderek1 3 years ago
Unb-Fucking-leaveable!!!
usedretainers 3 years ago
Verlaine and Lloyd are the true alternative guitar gods!!!
Alwaystuned 3 years ago
i could have written this song its that simple...whats this about it being difficult?
accidentaldeath 4 years ago
Have you heard the entire song? It's over 10:00 long, and gets pretty complicated.
samoshitt 4 years ago
compered to joe satriani, its pretty simple, have you ever heard of him or is he not alternative eneough?
accidentaldeath 4 years ago
Satriani plays fast, not complicated. He has ABSOLUTELY NO BAND INTERPLAY! He completely ignores his band. As a man raised on Lee Konitz jazz, interplay is were I get the emotion and enjoyment from music.
Satriani, Vai, and many others play guitar not music. Zappa, Verlaine, and Sharrock play music on a guitar. I don't want to devalue shredders, excellent players, but one guy playing quick isn't hard, its professional. This song has great interplay during the solos cut out in this video.
GolumTR 4 years ago
have you ever even tried to play a satriani song? and as for vai, he sucks, he doesnt play with any emotion or feeling like, satriani or rory...
accidentaldeath 4 years ago
I have both played his songs and dismantled them compositionally, and isn't a lot there that interests me.
He hides his best ideas in formal structures largely developed by Allan Holdsworth. As for Vai's lack of emotion, well that's pretty true.
GolumTR 4 years ago
i give up tryin to change your mind...in my opinion, satriani is the best guitarist, but his music isnt for everyone..
accidentaldeath 4 years ago
I agree that Mr. Satriani is an excellent guitarist and that students of the instrument should give his work at least a look. But I don't listen to it very often.
Who is "Rory"? I would like to listen to this player as you clearly have musical knowledge, and I will happily trust your taste in this instance.
GolumTR 4 years ago
Rory Gallagher
accidentaldeath 4 years ago
Thanks!
GolumTR 4 years ago
tall me what you think of him
accidentaldeath 4 years ago
As I write this, I've only experienced a few videos on YouTube. But from what I have heard, he seems to be an excellent blues player in the British pick-based blues style. He's even got that great Yardbirds/Honky Tonk tone when he plays slide.
He has a great rocking edge though, which I like. His middle solo in "Cradle Rock" was very entertaining.
I'd rather invest before forming my final opinion though. What album would you recommend?
GolumTR 4 years ago
My fav is TATTOO. Great songs. But if you want to get a taste of how great he was on guitar, try LIVE IN EUROPE. There is also an outstanding DVD called RORY GALLAGHER LIVE AT MONTREUX. My understanding is that he was invited to join the Stones when Mick Taylor left. That is a great "could have been." He would have added so much more to the band than Wood did. Much better guitarist, decent singer, and multi-instrumentalist. I saw him less than a year before he died. Huge talent.
whosiskid 3 years ago
Rory had so many french fans that after his death they change a street name to rue Rory Gallagher.
josepolo950 3 years ago
amen
ShudeBwerkin 4 years ago
He's alternative... alternative to good.
xjimix 4 years ago
Who?
GolumTR 4 years ago
It was a reply to accidentaldeaths first post.
xjimix 4 years ago
satriani has no soul
unmegaface 4 years ago 8
great band! had the luck...saw them `04 at the southside/germany...
MichaelKatzengreis 4 years ago
I saw these guys in '77 at The Odeon Birmingham UK with Blondie as support :)
twinrichy 4 years ago
"I saw these guys in '77 at The Odeon Birmingham UK with Blondie as support"
Whew -- what a show. Wish I was there.
-A
ampsdofurnisharoom 4 years ago
indimenticabili. che classe ragazzi!
trombico 4 years ago
why hasn't someone covered these guys?
dannychung1 4 years ago
Do you play any instrument?? It's very very difficult to play like this and get a good cover, all your pentatonics and power chords don't make it here......
JUANLUSG 4 years ago
I can play this. But only because I am classically trained. This stuff seems relatively easy, even for someone with mild talent.
dannychung1 4 years ago
Your attitude Danny is why we have so many musicians in the world with formal training that lack any ounce of originality or emotion when they play. It might as well be noise. To say you can play like Tom Verlaine because you're "classically trained" is like saying you can paint like Picasso or Van Gogh just because you've gone to art school. Give me a break.
leonardkilledteddy 4 years ago 4
I hate to burst your bubble, but there are many people who can play like this, even better than this, who are ten times more underground than television.
dannychung1 4 years ago
I could care less what's underground and what's mainstream. I just care whether the complete work is great in all of its components: originality, melody, lyrics, musicianship and all the players are cohesive as one entity. If you can a write and perform your own material that excels at all of those things then I'm your fan :). But if you can only claim to play guitar and solo like Verlaine or Lloyd (and better) then that means nothing. You might as well be a parrot with a six-string.
leonardkilledteddy 4 years ago 4
"why hasn't someone covered these guys?"
Probably because Television isn't all that easy to pick up. Their music is not terribly complex, but there are a lot of dual guitar parts that you have to get just right, and none of it is in the familiar minor pentatonic blues mode upon which most rock is based.
Search youTube for "Amps Do Furnish A Room". They seem to do a good job.
wildshovel 4 years ago
Another reason is that if someone covered these guys people would be like,"Who the hell is that?!"
tomlyoldhappyderek1 3 years ago
They're Godlike :D
MoonchildMindaugasRo 4 years ago
This is friggin grt. It don't feel as bad that I can't get that magic chord (into "just waiting" and "hesitating") to resound, or dare I say, even *sound* like like it it did on the album, 'cuz apparently they can't either. Still grt.
howelldrake 4 years ago
Aww, i wish the solo was longer...thanks for posting this.
hawaiian742 4 years ago
i remember well how the darkness doubled i recall lightning struck itself
OKEYETHIN 4 years ago
i wish i was there...im 14 and i love television
johnblattnerstudios 4 years ago 2
WOW, They will forever remain in my top 5 bands, I bought Marquee Moon and Magazines Real Life on the same day and was changed forever... goodbye Supertramp!
hadithead 4 years ago 4
This was interesting, I thought it was Verlaine who did most of the lead guitar on this track.... hmmmm
Barca87 4 years ago
television, you wonderful, wonderful band.
didn't know they were still playing shows!!??
brokenface128 4 years ago
this is awesome! television still sounds great! marquee moon is one of amy all time favorite songs. im 14 and i can say that
johnblattnerstudios 4 years ago
Keep scratching. Keep listening. Thanks for the post. It was a great day out there, rain and all. Apples in Stereo were fun as well.
jahnbon 4 years ago
great sound quality thanks.
bigsweatypenis 4 years ago
500 character limit really pisses me right off. read between the lines. stupid u tube convoluted my message. fuck off, youtube.
iamthepreacher 4 years ago
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iamthepreacher 4 years ago
Fantastic.
sonictrasher 4 years ago
How this was ever lumped in with the rest of early punk is beyond me. I remember a reviewer calling Television the "Grateful Dead of punk rock." But Marquee Moon is such an incredible album who gives a fuck to classify it. It's great music, one of my fave albums of all time.
cabronte 4 years ago
Hey I seem to remember reading that Grateful Dead comparison somewhere back in the day. How unbelievably ignorant is that!!! Television didn't bear comparisons with anyone at all which was a problem for all those hack reviewers who lacked the ability to see that.
pernicketty 4 years ago
It's the extended solos in the mixolydian mode that draw that comparison. I was there at Summerstage, and they did get a little jammy.
esrevernidellepS 4 years ago
OK. I'm no musician but I think I can see what you mean. I used to have a few of the early Dead albums way back in the early '70s. There was a lot of that extended jamming stuff on the "Live Dead" album as I recall. Other than that though the 2 bands were worlds apart.
pernicketty 4 years ago
Yeah, the Dead never really did it for me. Television, on the other hand... Verlaine has a way of making his guitar cry that I could listen to forever. It took me a while, but I even got into their self-titled 90s album.
esrevernidellepS 4 years ago
Yea, I've got just about all of his solo albums. They're among my all-time favourite records. The Lloyd/Verlaine combination was a great one but he and Jimmy Ripp go really well together too. Have you seen the clips for "Bomb" and "A town called Walker" on You Tube?
pernicketty 4 years ago
No. I've seen some other solo stuff and I'm just getting into his solo albums now. What album(s) did he do with Jimmy Ripp?
esrevernidellepS 4 years ago
Jimmy Ripp definitely plays on "Flashlight" and "Cover". I'm not sure if he plays on "Words from the front" and "The Wonder" and he didn't play on the "Tom Verlaine" and "Dreamtime" albums. I'd rate "Flashlight" as my favourite Verlaine solo album but there are great tracks on all of them except maybe "Warm and Cool" which is an instrumental album and a real oddity that I find very dull.
pernicketty 4 years ago
Hmm... I might check out that instrumental one first. Sounds enigmatic.
esrevernidellepS 4 years ago
Try it at your own risk brother! I tell you, it's like The Ventures on Mandrax. Hear that and you'll think Tom Verlaine sucks! That's the last place you wanna go.
pernicketty 4 years ago
I personally think the all-instrumental "Warm and Cool" is Tom Verlaine's best solo record -- so much so that I often give it as a gift.
It's a subdued effort but with dazzling creative playing throughout. Enigmatic little snippets of ideas that seamlessly flow one into the other, some jazzy, some punky, some ???, but all good. If you like the soundtrack of David Lynch's "Twin Peaks", you'll really like "Warm and Cool".
wildshovel 4 years ago
"Have you seen the clips for "Bomb" and "A town called Walker" on You Tube?"
That Bomb clip pernicketty here is referring to (search youTube for "Tom Verlaine Bomb" is well worth searching for. Stay with it, as it just builds and builds. Great example of some nasty, nasty guitar playing by Verlaine.
ampsdofurnisharoom 4 years ago
Hey I just plugged you guys!
wildshovel 4 years ago
Cool, thanks!
ampsdofurnisharoom 4 years ago
If you're a Verlaine fan, you should search Youtube for "Tom Verlaine and Jimmy Rip - Music for Experimental Film" There are three clips from the program in which they played to short silent films.
cle63 4 years ago
U2's 'THE EDGE' has noted 'Televisions' "Marqee Moon" as one of his favorite all time records. Quoting The Edge "I love Marquee Moon. Fuck the songs listen to the guitar playing".
Alwaystuned 4 years ago
Wow. With the intensity of a drunk cover band. Baby what have u done for me lately?
houseofchintz 4 years ago
God, Tom's vocals suck... and he sounds like he couldn't possibly give a shit. I mean, yes, amazing song, classic band... but wow.
swallowyourhalo 4 years ago
He's old... his voice is going. He was definately into it, the guitar breaks during all the other songs were intense and amazing
TheGreatGallbo 4 years ago
This is Tom Verlaine -- when has his voice ever *not* sucked? And when has his attitude betrayed giving a shit about anything, except for the music? His fuck you attitude is essentially unchanged from the early CBGB days, when Television was topping bills that included Patti Smith, Blondie, the Talking Heads and The Ramones; that's a huge part of his appeal.
That and the fact that Verlaine plays mixolydian mode like no living person on the planet.
wildshovel 4 years ago
As fave & great a band as I ever saw...Toronto '92...just heard the sad news that Richard Lloyd is leaving the band, after 34 years...this, mi amigos, is/was Television's last stand...let's await the, hopeful, reunion...
linclink 4 years ago
He he, saw them doing this in Stockholm 92 (I believe). Did they perform any songs from Toms solo records? I would give anything to see him performing the awesome music from "The Wonder" and "Flashlightning".
VRKaka 4 years ago
I'm going to post w/e else I have... I wasn't sure on the stuff they played that wasn't off of either Marquee Moon or Adventure... all ican say is they jam A LOT... oh, and this song lasted a good 15 minutes.. but The Man shut me down early :-(
TheGreatGallbo 4 years ago
Nice job! I don't suppose you caught any of "Persia", which was the song they did right BEFORE MM? That was AWESOME. Of course, this is the MOST awesome.
JasonBNYC 4 years ago