I cannot compare them, they are so different. Just, i felt, all of them are so honest and human. They play like speaking.They never beautify music. These are what I miss about modern pianists.
Pachmann is more direct than I expected but the constant right hand behind the beat I find distracting, though that was the style then. Horowitz exhibits his nearly unique talent for making a melody live and breathe so that you can't help but listen to it even if you disagree with the way he does it - that is, when he's behaving himself... but then I think he goes badly wrong towards the end by blowing the countermelody up all out of proportion. He just couldn't resist tinkering!
In defense of Rubinstein who is criticized here for being boring, you have to take into account that he recorded ALL of the Mazurkas twice 30 years apart. This is from the later recording. In performance he only played a handful of the more than 50 Mazurkas he recorded and I suspect this is one he didn't perform often. I heard him 7 or 8 times in the 60s and 70s and he never played this, though he did play others then. He WAS electric in person, but perhaps a bit cautious in the studio.
fredeiricfranc: What happens with your comment about Horowitz interpretation? overinterpretation?? You would say that he puts any note in the wrong place? Too much rubato? I think not in absolute! You have listened to one of the best way to play the hands over the piano. I´m sorry for my english. Best rewards.
fredeiricfranc: What happens with your comment about Horowitz interpretation? overinterpretation?? You would say that he puts any note in the wrong place? You have listened to one of the best way to play the hands over the piano. I´m sorry for my english. Best rewards.
I give Pachmann the first, for the directness, Rubinstein the second, for the effective laid back effect, Horowitz the third for overinterpretation. But the two more recent masters are not exactly shabby.
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If you love Chopin you must listen to the interpretations of Piotr Andrzewski. Young polish pianist who understands best the music of his fellow countryman. Very very moving. All these pianists here think they have to change the rhythm all the time, which ruins everything.
La version de Pachmann me plaît par son élégance et ses variétés d'approche....pour moi cet artiste crée de la musique au clavier à partir de l'oeuvre d'un compositeur.
Horowitz joue à partir de sa fastueuse technique...-Et si vous écoutiez Charles Rosen?- Et si vous écoutiez Andrew Rangell??- Et si vous écoutiez William Kappell???
Rubenstein is so boring in his studio work. Sounds like he's sleep-walking or something. I think he came really alive in concert settings though. I have heard that he was really immediate and electric live.
3 versions intéressantes,pour moi,la meilleure est celle d'Horowitz,elle est la plus contrastée,la plus proche de la Mazurka.(Rubinstein effectivement semble s'ennuyer...)
Rubinstein did his best playing only for East European audiences(including the USSR) after his move to the US.Billed as eternally young,he seems to be eternally bored on his American recordings.
Pachmann was closest to Chopin's skin,as he wore Chopin's underwear and stockings.
Horowitz,to me,has done best in this comparison.
A pity that Cortot was not included.Lipatti did not record the piece.Also missing is Tiegermann,who probably would have been number one,had he recorded it.
Tastes are tastes, and it's correct to respect them. I consider Rubinstein overvalued and I prefer many other pianists here (where I know about 20 versions) and in other Chopin pieces. Are there problems with this? Thank you and enjoy your "Chopin himself". Bye.
My dear Sir..or Madame:I always repect and accept all the different tastes in Art.If it weren't so...ever the same opinions would be very boring,isn't it so?
I wish you all the happiness and peace for the next year!
Sarrasani, never wrote Chopin bores him, he wrote Rubinstein's interpretation is boring, so difficult the differerence? and his/her opinion is very good, only Pollini is more boring.
Le truc que j'ai trouvé est de les écouter sans relâche,encore et encore,jusqu'à ce que se forme toute seule une idée,un avis,né comme d'une sédimentation,et puis un jour,lors d'une nième confrontation,j'ai été surpris de voir qu'une interprétation a résisté, à l'usure ,a refusé de se laisser enfermer dans une formule,dans un avis,dans une idée.
Voilà,je vous souhaite de trouver celle qui vous correspond....bonne écoute!!
After your comment about Sokolov's interpretation of this Mazurka I had to listen to the interpretation of Pachmann and I think you are right.Pachmann's interpretation is very much "good old school" and I like that very much.
Three great masters, each with a unique personality and sound. My vote goes for Horowitz and dePachmann. What a contrast with today's 'perfect often tasteless playing by contemporary pianists.
What a delight the Rubinstein is after the heavily fin-de-siecle/nineteenth century performances by Pachmann and Horowitz, with their melody delaying, melody anticipation and arpeggiata. Of course, it may be that Chopin played with those mannerisms too. Chopin pupil Karol Mikuli said as much, certainly as regards melody delaying and melody anticipation (if you read his comments on the Chopin rubato again!)
Go listen to Rachmaninoff's rendition of this then vote. Brilliant as always.
leongatha6 1 month ago
wonderful, wonderful, and wonderful! everybody played better than I could. so i wouldnt even dare criticize. thanks for sharing.
pixelatorNYC 3 months ago
Pachmann was my favorite, but just listened to Rachmaninoff play it. Even better than these three.
almeronfilms 4 months ago in playlist Chopin Mazurka Op.63 No.3
vote for vladimir de pachmann.
almeronfilms 4 months ago in playlist Chopin Mazurka Op.63 No.3
I cannot compare them, they are so different. Just, i felt, all of them are so honest and human. They play like speaking.They never beautify music. These are what I miss about modern pianists.
samposuki2222 9 months ago
Pachmann is more direct than I expected but the constant right hand behind the beat I find distracting, though that was the style then. Horowitz exhibits his nearly unique talent for making a melody live and breathe so that you can't help but listen to it even if you disagree with the way he does it - that is, when he's behaving himself... but then I think he goes badly wrong towards the end by blowing the countermelody up all out of proportion. He just couldn't resist tinkering!
gtimny 10 months ago
In defense of Rubinstein who is criticized here for being boring, you have to take into account that he recorded ALL of the Mazurkas twice 30 years apart. This is from the later recording. In performance he only played a handful of the more than 50 Mazurkas he recorded and I suspect this is one he didn't perform often. I heard him 7 or 8 times in the 60s and 70s and he never played this, though he did play others then. He WAS electric in person, but perhaps a bit cautious in the studio.
gtimny 10 months ago
fredeiricfranc: What happens with your comment about Horowitz interpretation? overinterpretation?? You would say that he puts any note in the wrong place? Too much rubato? I think not in absolute! You have listened to one of the best way to play the hands over the piano. I´m sorry for my english. Best rewards.
mxtiplitz 1 year ago
fredeiricfranc: What happens with your comment about Horowitz interpretation? overinterpretation?? You would say that he puts any note in the wrong place? You have listened to one of the best way to play the hands over the piano. I´m sorry for my english. Best rewards.
mxtiplitz 1 year ago
I give Pachmann the first, for the directness, Rubinstein the second, for the effective laid back effect, Horowitz the third for overinterpretation. But the two more recent masters are not exactly shabby.
fredericfranc 1 year ago
horowitz sings as a god.
4785689 1 year ago
rubinstein! RUBINSHTEIN!!!
mivalguriashi 1 year ago 9
especially Horowitz ♥ Pachmann is good too though... :)
Nyororo14 1 year ago
haha so old recording :3 i love it
Nyororo14 1 year ago
Thanks for that, rigel.
DePachmann the best, as would be expected in Chopin Mazurkas.
Listen to how light and effortless his ornaments are compared to the other two.
Horowitz a little harsh in tone compared with DePachman.
Rubinstein's tone is very different from Horowitz'. More mellow and sonorous.
marcxopoco 2 years ago 2
Horowitz is the best!
DzikenS94 2 years ago
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If you love Chopin you must listen to the interpretations of Piotr Andrzewski. Young polish pianist who understands best the music of his fellow countryman. Very very moving. All these pianists here think they have to change the rhythm all the time, which ruins everything.
birdiedetemmerman 2 years ago
i thought he was russian, just saw him in Art of piano playing. do check out Bunin's version as well
libetta 2 years ago
La version de Pachmann me plaît par son élégance et ses variétés d'approche....pour moi cet artiste crée de la musique au clavier à partir de l'oeuvre d'un compositeur.
Horowitz joue à partir de sa fastueuse technique...-Et si vous écoutiez Charles Rosen?- Et si vous écoutiez Andrew Rangell??- Et si vous écoutiez William Kappell???
antoinezygfryd 2 years ago
Rubenstein is so boring in his studio work. Sounds like he's sleep-walking or something. I think he came really alive in concert settings though. I have heard that he was really immediate and electric live.
aardvaark069 2 years ago 2
I think Pachmann is best here, he has the sense of the main theme during the whole piece, but the quality is poor
kwastormayt 2 years ago
I agree that many of Rubinstein's Chopin
recordings are boring (not the Sonatas).
Rubinstein is a wonderful chamber music
and concerto performer and has a natural
affinity for the music of Brahms and
Spanish composers such as Granados
and Albeniz. Horowitz' mazurka
performance seems most compelling
of the three.
jghancockjr 2 years ago
My 2 favorites. Rubinstein and Horowitz. When it comes to Chopin, Horowitz always gets the nod from me.
damon1281 2 years ago
3 versions intéressantes,pour moi,la meilleure est celle d'Horowitz,elle est la plus contrastée,la plus proche de la Mazurka.(Rubinstein effectivement semble s'ennuyer...)
Katiuszkasanda 2 years ago
Rubinstein did his best playing only for East European audiences(including the USSR) after his move to the US.Billed as eternally young,he seems to be eternally bored on his American recordings.
Pachmann was closest to Chopin's skin,as he wore Chopin's underwear and stockings.
Horowitz,to me,has done best in this comparison.
A pity that Cortot was not included.Lipatti did not record the piece.Also missing is Tiegermann,who probably would have been number one,had he recorded it.
raanan17 2 years ago
Horowitz the best
weltmeister12 3 years ago 13
In this comparison I feel Vladimir Horowitz comes across best.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago 2
what a pity you don't ahve posted the Cortot version!
ankhsnammon
Ankhsnammon 3 years ago
How does Slobone get thumbs down for his comments?
Rubinstein owns this.
yarg2020 3 years ago
From 0 to 10.
Pachmann 3, Horowitz 8, Rubinstein (extremely boring as his usual, only Pollini is more boring) 2.
SarrasaniPianoCircus 3 years ago
What are you saying......so ingorant????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pachmann exquisite;Horowitz the summum of technical abilities...rubinstein...chopin himself!!!!!!!!!
so,chopin bores you!!!!!!!!!!!
ankhsnammon
Ankhsnammon 3 years ago
Tastes are tastes, and it's correct to respect them. I consider Rubinstein overvalued and I prefer many other pianists here (where I know about 20 versions) and in other Chopin pieces. Are there problems with this? Thank you and enjoy your "Chopin himself". Bye.
SarrasaniPianoCircus 3 years ago 2
My dear Sir..or Madame:I always repect and accept all the different tastes in Art.If it weren't so...ever the same opinions would be very boring,isn't it so?
I wish you all the happiness and peace for the next year!
Reapectfully,
ankhsnammon
Ankhsnammon 3 years ago
The same for you. All the best for your new year,
Sandro
SarrasaniPianoCircus 3 years ago
I hope you will continue to enjoy this wonderful music...this poetry in music...no matters who is playing it.
Regardsfrom Argentina...are you Italian?Sei italiano,caro amico?
auguri mille,dunque!
Nina(ankhsnammon)
Ankhsnammon 3 years ago
Sarrasani, never wrote Chopin bores him, he wrote Rubinstein's interpretation is boring, so difficult the differerence? and his/her opinion is very good, only Pollini is more boring.
arwena55 2 years ago
usually my vote would go to Rubenstein, but i can't help but like Horowitz's interpretation the best. Maybe it's the pianos?
jecian1978 3 years ago
Pour ceux qui aiment les mazurkas de Chopin...
Le truc que j'ai trouvé est de les écouter sans relâche,encore et encore,jusqu'à ce que se forme toute seule une idée,un avis,né comme d'une sédimentation,et puis un jour,lors d'une nième confrontation,j'ai été surpris de voir qu'une interprétation a résisté, à l'usure ,a refusé de se laisser enfermer dans une formule,dans un avis,dans une idée.
Voilà,je vous souhaite de trouver celle qui vous correspond....bonne écoute!!
antoinezygfryd 3 years ago 5
@antoinezygfryd C'est très vrai!!
pianowhiz1 1 year ago
@antoinezygfryd C'est très vrai!!
pianowhiz1 1 year ago
After your comment about Sokolov's interpretation of this Mazurka I had to listen to the interpretation of Pachmann and I think you are right.Pachmann's interpretation is very much "good old school" and I like that very much.
go9zu 3 years ago
Three great masters, each with a unique personality and sound. My vote goes for Horowitz and dePachmann. What a contrast with today's 'perfect often tasteless playing by contemporary pianists.
stephenTGV 3 years ago 2
What a delight the Rubinstein is after the heavily fin-de-siecle/nineteenth century performances by Pachmann and Horowitz, with their melody delaying, melody anticipation and arpeggiata. Of course, it may be that Chopin played with those mannerisms too. Chopin pupil Karol Mikuli said as much, certainly as regards melody delaying and melody anticipation (if you read his comments on the Chopin rubato again!)
gerardbedecarter 3 years ago
DePachmann -- adds a few extra notes (and a coda) but not bad for him. Performance is perfunctory, however.
Horowitz -- also adds a few notes, performance a bit too stormy for my taste.
Rubinstein -- as usual, great subtlety and true appreciation of the beauty of Chopin. The winner!
But I think there's room for still more in the interpretation of this piece.
slobone 3 years ago
Rubinstein is the number one!
ankhsnammon
Ankhsnammon 3 years ago
no, he isn't , never was, never will be. IMO
arwena55 3 years ago
Gorgeous banquet of savory pianistic wonders for our delectation....Many Thanks!
sagalat 3 years ago 2