WOW zergrangae made terrans look bad. Yes he made it to the late game, but he let maka macro up so much. On top of that he had 3 chances to destroy 3 nexus but he didnt commit, which was his biggest mistake. He got tanks way too late AND NO NUKES( when the toss player had no detection) .WOW fucking disappointing. No wonder maka started making fun of him at the end. :l
after watching the whole match, this is the 1st time I seen Terran units die like Zerg. And this is the 1st Terran player that spam infantry like Zerglings
One might wonder. If your playing 2v2. and your 2 protoss. and you build 2 motherships. will the motherships invis each other? so you can have an complete invis army xD
@bigdavido82 IMO, he's playing off race.. yeah he's still good but when you're playing off race it's pretty easy to fall behind on your macro at times. It was so annoying watching it as a toss player >.< not sure if he was just not hitting units on CD on his warp gates or if he just didn't have enough, either way it was pretty ridiculous. :(
@stefanarak xD but he is right. if you look at the income the terran was badly behind but he still has managed to stay in the game because terran ARE overpowered. the protoss did fight with tech 3 units and the terran just need t1. his forces are much cheaper and faster rebuilt than the one of the protoss and marouder are stronger than stalker and actually not that bad against zealots. so terran is op
@Freshmaker21258 Tiers of units arent very present in this game tbh, and terran had ghosts too, which are not T1. Terran aren't OP, in all leagues protoss win close to 60% of their games. If anyone is OP, it is protoss. However, no-one is OP.
@Freshmaker21258 Also the vast majority of the zergs army was t1, OBVIOUSLY. Why complain about marines and marauders, its like saying OMG protoss used mostly zealot stalker and sentry!!
@egghead268 You must be stupid to see how monotonous they got after some point when they didn't bother to tech to robo or air despite the fact they both had tons of cash. There could have been motherships carriers voids and Bc's. but no.
@SolidSnakeRules Psi storm kills everything underneath it though.. ie full kill. You can have a pack of psi's and they can take shit on. If you have a pack of ghosts, they cant take out a huge ass army by themselves while psi can. That's the difference. So no, EMP is not worse than Psi in terms of damage. However, if you want to talk about MMM aswell as EMP, then you might have a point. But comparing EMP vs Psi by themselves, i'll pick the mass psi storm everytime over mass EMP.
@ex0duzz Psi storm deals 80 damage to everything underneath it as long as they do not micro out. Storm cannot take on a huge army by itself and neither can EMP. EMP deals 100 damage to Protoss shields and also drains energy and disables cloaking. You'll never find mass storm/emp in a real game.
@SolidSnakeRules I guess this game wasn't a real game then? Those Psi storm were destroying everything man :p
Also, i take it that Psi Storm stack(damage wise)? Whereas you can do 2+ EMP and the most it will do is 100dmg. So Psi storm can kill by itself, whereas EMP cannot? Isnt that true? -_-
I dunno what you mean by storm cannot take out a huge army by itself.. that's what it's for, no? It's an AOE spell designed to take out huge armies(albeit low HP units = low supply unit = bigger armies)
@ex0duzz You said, and I quote, "Comparing EMP vs Psi storm by themselves." Don't bring this game into it as that did not happen. You will never see EMP vs Psi Storm by themselves and if you did, EMP would win because ghosts can attack and HTs can't. Storm(which doesn't stack btw) cannot take out a huge army by itself. Even a huge MMM army will have marauders and medivacs to heal. Psi storms alone won't cut it, especially if your HTs get EMP'd.
@SolidSnakeRules You were the one who said you'll never see mass storm in a real game. This game had mass storms. And i'm not talking about mass ghosts vs mass psi. I'm talking about vs other units. Psi kills shit, EMP doesn't. It's more support, n to soften up. Storm can dmg everything too, EMP doesn't.
Obviously HT vs Ghost, the ghost will win since it's meant to counter HT's. I'm talking about the ability itself vs other units. Storm owns it because it kills shit by itself while EMP doesn't.
@ex0duzz No, it didn't have mass storms. It had a lot of storms. That's like saying this game had mass zealots. lol. Psi only kills weak units, while EMP actually does more damage so your marauders can clean up the mess. Storm does not kill things unless it's a very small group of units like a drop or something and even then you need more than one.
@SolidSnakeRules Yeah, obviously if they get EMP'd they are useless. But you can't say that there will always be medivacs, or enough to heal etc. It's like you saw in this game, storm owned, especially for defense at chokes, or if you have some towers aswell. Just leave some HT at base to defend. Much more useful and better than ghosts. Ghosts are more support like i said, HT while also support, can be used in auxilary roles and are imba in terms of cost/use/kill ratio
@ex0duzz may i add that if the toss has a warp prism he can warp in more hts during the battle, nuliffying emp forcing the terran to lose all that money for nothing
@SolidSnakeRules I see mass EMP/Storm all the time. SEA Diamond TvPs are nearly always micro battles. You're also forgetting Feedback, one of the HTs most important abilities which can nearly kill Ghosts. Don't be biased, the match-up is quite evenly balanced at this stage.
@Strand0410 You don't understand what mass means. Mass means a strategy that relies on one unit or ability. NOBODY MASSES STORMS/EMP. They just use a lot of them.
@SolidSnakeRules Nope. Mass by every definition is a heavy stacking of a unit. But there is no such army composition in either SC2 or BW. Even if you 'mass' marines, you'll need medics. If you mass lings, you'll need lurkers. A single unit type is not viable, so by EVERY definition "Mass X" = a lot of it but not singular unit type.
Now you're just resorting to semantics to make yourself look not so stupid. Too bad, because 'mass' is used all the time and never with a homogenous army.
@Strand0410 Furthermore, my original point had nothing to do with the definition of the word 'mass.' It was your inability to use it correctly that sidetracked us. I never resorted to anything. I presented the numbers and logic that proves that EMP is way more cost-effective and better overall than psi storm and you argued it with nothing to back your point but a PROUD lack of knowledge regarding either ability. You didn't even know the properties of psi storm. You lose.
@SolidSnakeRules Don't know the properties of Storm? Please. I've used Storm as PvsAnything bread and butter since BW. And now, Smartcasting makes it even more noob-friendly. Plus I never said anything about Storm being better than EMP. They're both very good but completely situational. EMP was introduced as a Ghost ability precisely to counter HT, it's a balance issue and Storm/EMP are both equally useful in TvP matchup.
@SolidSnakeRules Haha "You lose", please. Elaborate. What I'm seeing here is a P player whining about EMP despite it being ESSENTIAL to balancing TvP because otherwise, there's no hard counters to HT. I believe they're equally useful when used correctly but T and P players will always bitch the grass is always greener. How's this: Storm is more versatile an ability with a tangible AoE damage effects vs Storm's much more specialised vs P shield/mana.
@Strand0410 How's this: I'm talking about nothing more than tvp, so that doesn't matter. Obviously storm wouldn't be as effective against toss because toss have higher quality units. Storm is only good against Terran m/m/m, while EMP is good against any strategy Protoss can cook up. The only reason the two are linked is because Ghosts come from barracks with tech labs. I also never whined about EMP, I said it was better than storm and presented my argumentation for why.
@SolidSnakeRules Your entire point is moot because the ONLY truly singular army type is the oldschool BW TvZ with mass mutas and even then, 90% of the time it will have lings. This is a standard EVERY single commentator from Diggity, Moletrap, Klaz, etc have gone by. Mass = 'lots of', I find it hilarious you're using semantics as a last refuge when everyone on this thread is calling you out for talking shit. Better luck next time.
@Strand0410 How does that render my point moot? That solidifies my point. Mass means a strategy that relies solely or mainly on one unit or ability. There were many marines in this game. Would you say he was going for mass marines? No, because he had a mixed unit composition. Would you say the Toss went for mass Zealots? No, you probably wouldn't. Why on earth would you describe the Toss player as going for a mass storm strategy when there were no more HTs than any other unit he used?
@SolidSnakeRules That's exactly right. Mass = 'lots of', it's not black and white. And while it's obviously impossible to have a pure HT army, it's VERY possible to have them form a large % or even majority of it. Even back in BW, This was a very viable PvP strategy. Hence "Mass HTs/Storm" is VERY possible and even strategically sound.
@SolidSnakeRules This wasn't mass marines. But have you seen a BW SK Terran Strategy? It's pure Marine/Medic with limited Science Vessel support in the later mid-game. It's not 100% marines, but it's definitely classified as "Mass Marine" by players and commentators more talented than myself. And yes, I have seen 'Mass Storm' armies in both BW (Jangbi) and SC2 (both SEA PvT and PvZ), if you bitch because you haven't personally used/seen it, that's just willful ignorance.
@Strand0410 That's called med/marine, not mass marines. lool and stop talking about BW. EMP was a lot different in BW. By the way, I'm a Zerg player, but I recognize that EMP is much more cost-effective, easier to get, and a better ability overall in tvp. My response was directed at someone who was complaining about the effectiveness of psi storms. By misconstruing my point, you're proving that you jumped into this discussion without even knowing my position. You LOSE. good DAY sir. lawl.
@Strand0410 You're also the same idiot that said storm is better than EMP because storm alone would beat EMP alone(which isn't true) and now you're berating me for arguing that. Both storm and EMP are always supplemental to your army, they never comprise the bulk of the army, which is the only way they'd ever be considered 'mass.' EMP is much better than storm and any Terran whining about storm should build a damned ghost academy.
I'm just getting sick and tired of seeing only Marines, Marauders, and MedVacs...
Seriously, 80% of Terran games are only 3M... I'd like to see some more diversity, but sadly 3M is just the best tactic. The few times I see some creative Terran build, the Terran player loses. Please fix Blizzard...
(btw the protoss army of HT+phoenix+stalkers should totally have destroyed the 3M build... Took way too long)
The Protoss High Command back home's probabally going like " dude we have all your money in the Bank of Auir, we've got all the weapons and equipment, but we are running out of babies to recuit. Stop toying you asshole!"
This is hilarious. The Protoss is basically toying with the Terran towards the end, banking so much minerals and that epic probe attack. Hilarious, hilarious.
fuck me anytime of the week??!!1 LOL!!! wow ok, whatever you say motherfucker. you must be 9 years old. there aint no fire bats in SC2 LOL!!!!! NO FIRE BATS IN SC2 LOL! NO FIRE BATS in SC2!!!!!! LOL!!!! fans??? what fans??? LOL!!!!!! i dont play professionally??? ofcourse... i HAVE A JOB MORON!!! LOL!!!!! One more time noob, there are no FIRE BATS in SC2!!!! go back to brood war dickhead... its free!!!
once again, a terran player can stay in the game with tier 1 units for 25 minutes, against a protoss player who was always an expansion on top.. i see this waaaayyyy too much, this is disgusting, this marine marauder ball needs to be nerfed. and also, he doesnt tech switch?? he jsut sticks with it! its bs, going for a couple of ghosts but very few. what a joke, i hate these kind of terran players, which is a shit load of them aswell...
@richisnang1 are you stupid? the only units the protoss was using were tier 1 units as well. terran was fully upgraded in both infantry armor and infantry attack. the protoss was 0-0 in upgrades for the longest time..
@thorizzle117 thats because they all get owned by the terran tier 1 units! think about it, colossi, owned by marauders and stim, immortals, owned by marines just flat out, carriers, owned by marines, void rays, owned by marines, pheonix(graviton beam) owned by marines, what else is there? void prisms, yeah they are pretty good but get shot down by marines and anything that they do drop can get owned by marines and marauders. observers, get owned by marines. see a connection here?
Saw some vids labelled blizzcon makaprime.... oh man 2 gate voids is killer vs T... any idea what to transition to if it fails? If you could arrange a match I think HuK vs Makaprime would be awesome.
Ok I have a Q HD do u think that mass infester is op because u can just burrow them then summon a huge army with infested tarren any where on the map over an over till they get a detecter then the ai of the game makes it so your guys auto attake the people attakeing them so the cloked infesters simply run away.......so Thers my rant an infesters
Wow Maka Prime is a fucking dick. Seriously, I don't even know the guy and I can say fuck him, what a raging douche. I was expecting him to bank minerals and then get a sweet carrier army, but he was just fucking around the whole time? Why even waste your time?
Totally. You see that in every pro game. If the Terran loses it still takes a long ass time to finally kill him off. Cause they can always fall back on spamming some MM which really is too good IMO.
@helenmont312 What????!!!! Firebats???? you must be talking about brood war man!!! you are trolling!!! there are no fire bats in SC2 search it ass wipe!!! they have been replaced with marauders because the Helions do the same job as the bats!!! and you say you defeated Makaprime??? you don't even have SC2 you faggot!!!
@helenmont312 test subject my arse... pffft... excuses excuses!!!LOL!!!No fire bats in SC2... No fire bats in SC2 LOL!!!! Very tough and very brave.. because your behind your keyboard LOL!!! internet toughie!!! get out of your mommas house!!! get a life and stop posing you gay poser!! you jealous of HD huh??? because your shout caster is a fag like you!!! LOL!!1
@helenmont312 jealous? me? fag ? me? LOL!!! no man... i don't get jealous that easy... especially to posers and losers like you who pretend to be somebody great in you tube. LOL!!!! POSER!!! and so you say you have beaten maka prime many times.???STFU!!! you did not even know there are no FIREBATS in SC2 LOL!!!! go back to brood war man errr gay... your fans will cheer ya!!! LOL!!!
@helenmont312 what??? you use fire bats to beat pro toss??? uhm... your talking about brood war right??? this is SC2 man... no more fire bats here??? we got hellions and marauders though... and in which game you say you beat maka prime??? POSER!!!! LOL!!!!
@JCeiver612 I'll be happy to give you a free demonstration of how I like to humiliate little protoss noobs in both SC1 and 2. But I'll talk to you once you actually play the game.
@omuploii sc1 scbw AND sc2. that would be 1...2...3. as BW and sc1 are considered different games because of the 6added units instead of an expansion pack. ya TARD
TERRAN IN UNDERPOWERED??? Just kidding, I got nothing to say... It's a stupid joke. But you know what? I think that Blizzard is testing the Terran's capabilities if something is not right. So don't take this comment seriously, it's a waste of time.
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TryonMosqueda319 1 month ago
lol this is awesome
basharblows 2 months ago
Bwahaha, such a great game. Seems like the last 10 minutes were just beating a decapitated horse. Evidence: Probe conga line of death.
FlyingArmadilloFlock 2 months ago
Maaaan! Great game!!! Well casted too!
deerhigh 4 months ago
my penis is shaking!
Mwang12 4 months ago
HOW THA HELL CAN THIS MATCHUP BE DISLIKE! WTF MAN!! I JUST SAY WOOW!!
ajrish8311 4 months ago
what does ww mean btw
dreakheart 5 months ago
@dreakheart gg
thebritpwns 3 months ago
I think that was a glitch when the phoenix picked up the worker while building. the scv was killed but the phoenix was stuck.
morrischen 6 months ago
@droga187 I'll drink to that notion my friend. THE most micro/macro intensive match I've ever witnessed
n3m3sis03 6 months ago
WOW zergrangae made terrans look bad. Yes he made it to the late game, but he let maka macro up so much. On top of that he had 3 chances to destroy 3 nexus but he didnt commit, which was his biggest mistake. He got tanks way too late AND NO NUKES( when the toss player had no detection) .WOW fucking disappointing. No wonder maka started making fun of him at the end. :l
AleckzanderGrimm 7 months ago
.........whoa
hkpopfan4lif3 9 months ago
after watching the whole match, this is the 1st time I seen Terran units die like Zerg. And this is the 1st Terran player that spam infantry like Zerglings
hungtienboi 9 months ago
@hungtienboi : Never underestimate zealots against terran bio....
NXValiant 9 months ago
It's funny I was thinking "Maka should just send all of his probes in to battle, it's not like he needs resources" 2 seconds later he does :)
MrSarge22 10 months ago
the most epic starcraft battle ever period
droga187 10 months ago 2
Fucking epic game, i don't know why watch soccer games if SC2 matches are more entertaining and intense.
XDAMM 11 months ago 3
best game ever :D
Iamjafex 11 months ago
Probe Braveheart:))
misuporc 1 year ago
One might wonder. If your playing 2v2. and your 2 protoss. and you build 2 motherships. will the motherships invis each other? so you can have an complete invis army xD
hallikiddi 1 year ago
@hallikiddi no. sigh, i wish
doublerainbowftw1 8 months ago
"I wanna see some MotherShip action"...
perv...
HudsonDoidim 1 year ago 3
6:14
holy sht@!!
idaho777 1 year ago
Man what was MakaPrime doing with all that money banking? What sort of strategy was that? It just seems like he was toying with him
bigdavido82 1 year ago
@bigdavido82 IMO, he's playing off race.. yeah he's still good but when you're playing off race it's pretty easy to fall behind on your macro at times. It was so annoying watching it as a toss player >.< not sure if he was just not hitting units on CD on his warp gates or if he just didn't have enough, either way it was pretty ridiculous. :(
gorendz 1 year ago
Awesome that the protoss player won but the Terrans are still overpowered.
luis94289428 1 year ago
@luis94289428 lol.. maybe months ago, you would've been right. now you sound retarded.
stefanarak 1 year ago
@stefanarak xD but he is right. if you look at the income the terran was badly behind but he still has managed to stay in the game because terran ARE overpowered. the protoss did fight with tech 3 units and the terran just need t1. his forces are much cheaper and faster rebuilt than the one of the protoss and marouder are stronger than stalker and actually not that bad against zealots. so terran is op
Freshmaker21258 1 year ago
@Freshmaker21258 Tiers of units arent very present in this game tbh, and terran had ghosts too, which are not T1. Terran aren't OP, in all leagues protoss win close to 60% of their games. If anyone is OP, it is protoss. However, no-one is OP.
stefanarak 1 year ago
@Freshmaker21258 Also the vast majority of the zergs army was t1, OBVIOUSLY. Why complain about marines and marauders, its like saying OMG protoss used mostly zealot stalker and sentry!!
also medivac is t3.
stefanarak 1 year ago
@stefanarak *protoss not zerg o.O
stefanarak 1 year ago
@Freshmaker21258 and in fact tank is t2, so what are you talking about?! jeez
stefanarak 1 year ago
for a 3 part game it wasn't that exciting
Limerickdesign 1 year ago
@Limerickdesign
You must be blind then
egghead268 1 year ago 2
@egghead268 You must be stupid to see how monotonous they got after some point when they didn't bother to tech to robo or air despite the fact they both had tons of cash. There could have been motherships carriers voids and Bc's. but no.
activ04 1 year ago
@activ04
Dude, don't be booty-tickled by it. Calm down. If your disappointed, don't bitch about. You act like this is the last upload ever, don't worry.
lol -_-
egghead268 1 year ago
what a good game, I had never seen a so good game lol
a lot of battle
buob1234567890 1 year ago
"cloak versus cloack! whos cloakier!" Epic x)
jamiroquaifreak 1 year ago
Lol terran is like a third world country..ouch hahaha
bigbigjak 1 year ago
Probes charging epic :D
Whereareyouroam 1 year ago
3rd world country i say HD is racist
Colencence 1 year ago
MOTHERSHIPS FINALLY!!!
littlesmallworld123 1 year ago
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MarshallHopfauf 1 year ago
mother ship rock the game.
trivuong 1 year ago
They should create MULES, wich will be gaining they Battery power from zerg flesh or solar energy
christivie121 1 year ago
ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND MINERALS!!!!
Poneivanfa 1 year ago 6
finally a toss beats a terran -_-
HimuraBattosai101 1 year ago
i dunno why bt 9:10 commentator y about the mother ship was funny as hell.
"THERES the mothership. The MOTHERSHIP arrives.....in the completely wrong location."
darcia3000 1 year ago
ELEVEN THOUSAND MINERALS!!!
darkdvr 1 year ago
oh and if you guys didnt notice, maka WAS toying with that terran
xstevec 1 year ago
on korean keyboard where "w" is at is "ㅈ" which sounds like g
xstevec 1 year ago 3
haha what an epic game!
Ricaflect 1 year ago 2
What a long epic funny as game! Lol
Keep up the awesomes vids HD
sensei12ful 1 year ago
4:50 He left one stalker to be able to blink back to cliff. So clever...
thimy69 1 year ago
o_O strand?
bobfreeze 1 year ago
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murdercom999 1 year ago
Korean BM is funnier than Idra BM. Word.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@8:12
maka.Prime did win :p Please dont quit broadcasting though! Blame it on 4am
dantheman688 1 year ago 27
@dantheman688 ATTENTION ALL DICKHEADS!! Please stop voting up spoilers. Dumbasses
chemao1978 1 year ago
Red Bull....it gives you wings! and wins
jhbhbvbvbnbmnb 1 year ago
THE MINERAL COUNT!
ITS OVER 9000!
:D
ethereal311 1 year ago
ter had two nukes who he didnt use....
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okachobee 1 year ago
Psi Storm vs EMP -_-'
dub4sam95 1 year ago
@clubhollis Why did you mention Idra?
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules Psi storm kills everything underneath it though.. ie full kill. You can have a pack of psi's and they can take shit on. If you have a pack of ghosts, they cant take out a huge ass army by themselves while psi can. That's the difference. So no, EMP is not worse than Psi in terms of damage. However, if you want to talk about MMM aswell as EMP, then you might have a point. But comparing EMP vs Psi by themselves, i'll pick the mass psi storm everytime over mass EMP.
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@ex0duzz Psi storm deals 80 damage to everything underneath it as long as they do not micro out. Storm cannot take on a huge army by itself and neither can EMP. EMP deals 100 damage to Protoss shields and also drains energy and disables cloaking. You'll never find mass storm/emp in a real game.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules I guess this game wasn't a real game then? Those Psi storm were destroying everything man :p
Also, i take it that Psi Storm stack(damage wise)? Whereas you can do 2+ EMP and the most it will do is 100dmg. So Psi storm can kill by itself, whereas EMP cannot? Isnt that true? -_-
I dunno what you mean by storm cannot take out a huge army by itself.. that's what it's for, no? It's an AOE spell designed to take out huge armies(albeit low HP units = low supply unit = bigger armies)
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@ex0duzz You said, and I quote, "Comparing EMP vs Psi storm by themselves." Don't bring this game into it as that did not happen. You will never see EMP vs Psi Storm by themselves and if you did, EMP would win because ghosts can attack and HTs can't. Storm(which doesn't stack btw) cannot take out a huge army by itself. Even a huge MMM army will have marauders and medivacs to heal. Psi storms alone won't cut it, especially if your HTs get EMP'd.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules You were the one who said you'll never see mass storm in a real game. This game had mass storms. And i'm not talking about mass ghosts vs mass psi. I'm talking about vs other units. Psi kills shit, EMP doesn't. It's more support, n to soften up. Storm can dmg everything too, EMP doesn't.
Obviously HT vs Ghost, the ghost will win since it's meant to counter HT's. I'm talking about the ability itself vs other units. Storm owns it because it kills shit by itself while EMP doesn't.
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@ex0duzz No, it didn't have mass storms. It had a lot of storms. That's like saying this game had mass zealots. lol. Psi only kills weak units, while EMP actually does more damage so your marauders can clean up the mess. Storm does not kill things unless it's a very small group of units like a drop or something and even then you need more than one.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules Yeah, obviously if they get EMP'd they are useless. But you can't say that there will always be medivacs, or enough to heal etc. It's like you saw in this game, storm owned, especially for defense at chokes, or if you have some towers aswell. Just leave some HT at base to defend. Much more useful and better than ghosts. Ghosts are more support like i said, HT while also support, can be used in auxilary roles and are imba in terms of cost/use/kill ratio
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@ex0duzz may i add that if the toss has a warp prism he can warp in more hts during the battle, nuliffying emp forcing the terran to lose all that money for nothing
047022221 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules I see mass EMP/Storm all the time. SEA Diamond TvPs are nearly always micro battles. You're also forgetting Feedback, one of the HTs most important abilities which can nearly kill Ghosts. Don't be biased, the match-up is quite evenly balanced at this stage.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 You don't understand what mass means. Mass means a strategy that relies on one unit or ability. NOBODY MASSES STORMS/EMP. They just use a lot of them.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules Nope. Mass by every definition is a heavy stacking of a unit. But there is no such army composition in either SC2 or BW. Even if you 'mass' marines, you'll need medics. If you mass lings, you'll need lurkers. A single unit type is not viable, so by EVERY definition "Mass X" = a lot of it but not singular unit type.
Now you're just resorting to semantics to make yourself look not so stupid. Too bad, because 'mass' is used all the time and never with a homogenous army.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 Furthermore, my original point had nothing to do with the definition of the word 'mass.' It was your inability to use it correctly that sidetracked us. I never resorted to anything. I presented the numbers and logic that proves that EMP is way more cost-effective and better overall than psi storm and you argued it with nothing to back your point but a PROUD lack of knowledge regarding either ability. You didn't even know the properties of psi storm. You lose.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules Don't know the properties of Storm? Please. I've used Storm as PvsAnything bread and butter since BW. And now, Smartcasting makes it even more noob-friendly. Plus I never said anything about Storm being better than EMP. They're both very good but completely situational. EMP was introduced as a Ghost ability precisely to counter HT, it's a balance issue and Storm/EMP are both equally useful in TvP matchup.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 "Don't know the properties of Storm? Please." <-- I actually confused you with ex0duzz. My mistake.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules Haha "You lose", please. Elaborate. What I'm seeing here is a P player whining about EMP despite it being ESSENTIAL to balancing TvP because otherwise, there's no hard counters to HT. I believe they're equally useful when used correctly but T and P players will always bitch the grass is always greener. How's this: Storm is more versatile an ability with a tangible AoE damage effects vs Storm's much more specialised vs P shield/mana.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 How's this: I'm talking about nothing more than tvp, so that doesn't matter. Obviously storm wouldn't be as effective against toss because toss have higher quality units. Storm is only good against Terran m/m/m, while EMP is good against any strategy Protoss can cook up. The only reason the two are linked is because Ghosts come from barracks with tech labs. I also never whined about EMP, I said it was better than storm and presented my argumentation for why.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules Your entire point is moot because the ONLY truly singular army type is the oldschool BW TvZ with mass mutas and even then, 90% of the time it will have lings. This is a standard EVERY single commentator from Diggity, Moletrap, Klaz, etc have gone by. Mass = 'lots of', I find it hilarious you're using semantics as a last refuge when everyone on this thread is calling you out for talking shit. Better luck next time.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 How does that render my point moot? That solidifies my point. Mass means a strategy that relies solely or mainly on one unit or ability. There were many marines in this game. Would you say he was going for mass marines? No, because he had a mixed unit composition. Would you say the Toss went for mass Zealots? No, you probably wouldn't. Why on earth would you describe the Toss player as going for a mass storm strategy when there were no more HTs than any other unit he used?
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules That's exactly right. Mass = 'lots of', it's not black and white. And while it's obviously impossible to have a pure HT army, it's VERY possible to have them form a large % or even majority of it. Even back in BW, This was a very viable PvP strategy. Hence "Mass HTs/Storm" is VERY possible and even strategically sound.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules This wasn't mass marines. But have you seen a BW SK Terran Strategy? It's pure Marine/Medic with limited Science Vessel support in the later mid-game. It's not 100% marines, but it's definitely classified as "Mass Marine" by players and commentators more talented than myself. And yes, I have seen 'Mass Storm' armies in both BW (Jangbi) and SC2 (both SEA PvT and PvZ), if you bitch because you haven't personally used/seen it, that's just willful ignorance.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 That's called med/marine, not mass marines. lool and stop talking about BW. EMP was a lot different in BW. By the way, I'm a Zerg player, but I recognize that EMP is much more cost-effective, easier to get, and a better ability overall in tvp. My response was directed at someone who was complaining about the effectiveness of psi storms. By misconstruing my point, you're proving that you jumped into this discussion without even knowing my position. You LOSE. good DAY sir. lawl.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@Strand0410 You're also the same idiot that said storm is better than EMP because storm alone would beat EMP alone(which isn't true) and now you're berating me for arguing that. Both storm and EMP are always supplemental to your army, they never comprise the bulk of the army, which is the only way they'd ever be considered 'mass.' EMP is much better than storm and any Terran whining about storm should build a damned ghost academy.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@Strand0410 though, for the record, and before you make this point, storm is obviously better against Zerg, but that's not what we're discussing.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
protoss be trollin teh terran all day
Samitat 1 year ago
awesome
hyunkyucho 1 year ago
awesome
hyunkyucho 1 year ago
I would of got LOADS of cannons!
KarlCast 1 year ago
I'm just getting sick and tired of seeing only Marines, Marauders, and MedVacs...
Seriously, 80% of Terran games are only 3M... I'd like to see some more diversity, but sadly 3M is just the best tactic. The few times I see some creative Terran build, the Terran player loses. Please fix Blizzard...
(btw the protoss army of HT+phoenix+stalkers should totally have destroyed the 3M build... Took way too long)
stommebanaan 1 year ago
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The Protoss High Command back home's probabally going like " dude we have all your money in the Bank of Auir, we've got all the weapons and equipment, but we are running out of babies to recuit. Stop toying you asshole!"
freeport5 1 year ago
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freeport5 1 year ago
This is hilarious. The Protoss is basically toying with the Terran towards the end, banking so much minerals and that epic probe attack. Hilarious, hilarious.
signorekai 1 year ago
Aaaagh reading Youtube comments is making me stupid. I can feel my iq drop several dozen points with every meaningless dick-waving contest.
Doomender 1 year ago 36
@Doomender haha i see why your comment got 27 thumbs up ^^ its just so true,
mukkohaha 11 months ago
@helenmont312 Kiddo? I'm 19 years old. and Racist? How is HD racist.
bftjosh 1 year ago
can someone buy me this game
BATTLEFIELD124 1 year ago
My goose is getting cooked
bboy1302199666 1 year ago
i gotta go change my underwear....
By200 1 year ago
funny if zergrangae actually won, then you'd have to quit commentating :(
ylskang 1 year ago
If maka had got void rays in the middle he could have killed zerg because most of his units were maradoures
dixen2009 1 year ago
You got Maka and Zerg mixxed up in this part lol, Maka is the protoss.
xwillx0wnz 1 year ago
6:48: THE PROBES REIGN SUPREME!
azntango 1 year ago
ive watched loads of gameplay of this game but im not sure if i should get it :s
Idontcaret1234 1 year ago
What does "ww" mean? World War? Way to Wank? WhatWhyWhoWoot?
Erlingsaebo 1 year ago
@Erlingsaebo Maybe he's copying the Japanese :3 ww would be like lolol
zUchihaCloudz 1 year ago
I love seeing Terran get thrashed by Protoss... or Zerg.
ridge084 1 year ago
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fuck me anytime of the week??!!1 LOL!!! wow ok, whatever you say motherfucker. you must be 9 years old. there aint no fire bats in SC2 LOL!!!!! NO FIRE BATS IN SC2 LOL! NO FIRE BATS in SC2!!!!!! LOL!!!! fans??? what fans??? LOL!!!!!! i dont play professionally??? ofcourse... i HAVE A JOB MORON!!! LOL!!!!! One more time noob, there are no FIRE BATS in SC2!!!! go back to brood war dickhead... its free!!!
truknayr23 1 year ago
once again, a terran player can stay in the game with tier 1 units for 25 minutes, against a protoss player who was always an expansion on top.. i see this waaaayyyy too much, this is disgusting, this marine marauder ball needs to be nerfed. and also, he doesnt tech switch?? he jsut sticks with it! its bs, going for a couple of ghosts but very few. what a joke, i hate these kind of terran players, which is a shit load of them aswell...
richisnang1 1 year ago
@richisnang1 are you stupid? the only units the protoss was using were tier 1 units as well. terran was fully upgraded in both infantry armor and infantry attack. the protoss was 0-0 in upgrades for the longest time..
thorizzle117 1 year ago
@thorizzle117 thats because they all get owned by the terran tier 1 units! think about it, colossi, owned by marauders and stim, immortals, owned by marines just flat out, carriers, owned by marines, void rays, owned by marines, pheonix(graviton beam) owned by marines, what else is there? void prisms, yeah they are pretty good but get shot down by marines and anything that they do drop can get owned by marines and marauders. observers, get owned by marines. see a connection here?
richisnang1 1 year ago
@thorizzle117 Yeah, i agree on your point that High/Dark templars are tier 1. Not...
stommebanaan 1 year ago
Wow, the most humorous SC2 battle ever!
LesEnfants1972 1 year ago
Saw some vids labelled blizzcon makaprime.... oh man 2 gate voids is killer vs T... any idea what to transition to if it fails? If you could arrange a match I think HuK vs Makaprime would be awesome.
raoke69 1 year ago
@raoke69 maka vs huk PvP
raoke69 1 year ago
Ok I have a Q HD do u think that mass infester is op because u can just burrow them then summon a huge army with infested tarren any where on the map over an over till they get a detecter then the ai of the game makes it so your guys auto attake the people attakeing them so the cloked infesters simply run away.......so Thers my rant an infesters
presson100 1 year ago
Please don't quit commenting HD, We will miss you...
chitin122 1 year ago
@chitin122 we would miss
AtomSC 1 year ago
Wow Maka Prime is a fucking dick. Seriously, I don't even know the guy and I can say fuck him, what a raging douche. I was expecting him to bank minerals and then get a sweet carrier army, but he was just fucking around the whole time? Why even waste your time?
DonFuego1 1 year ago
@DonFuego1 as i said, maka.prime is just a fucking noob.. i pwned him many times... see the video on Blizshouter's page
helenmont312 1 year ago
plyo is back @ 8:53 :)
madmen561 1 year ago
Goodness gracious, they should give the first Nobel prize in Starcraft 2 to Maka.Prime.
perfuzz 1 year ago
Guess HD is stoppin with commentatin :(
CrazyKiso 1 year ago
is it just me or did HD kept mixing up the players i was getting confused...
phatxviet 1 year ago
Damn it's funny how the Terran can hold on due to the insane cost efficiency of their units even though he is obviously inferior.
WordsOfFarewell 1 year ago 2
@WordsOfFarewell
Totally. You see that in every pro game. If the Terran loses it still takes a long ass time to finally kill him off. Cause they can always fall back on spamming some MM which really is too good IMO.
Sifer2 1 year ago
maka could have used all those extra mins for a massive cannon push all over the map
d3008 1 year ago
this is why you don't solely rely on marine/marauder. switch it up, terran. christ.
HsEembryo 1 year ago
@HsEembryo as opposed to the extremely diverse zealot temp army
De4noo 1 year ago
@HsEembryo yes, terran should use more firebat to kill the aliens
helenmont312 1 year ago
@helenmont312 What????!!!! Firebats???? you must be talking about brood war man!!! you are trolling!!! there are no fire bats in SC2 search it ass wipe!!! they have been replaced with marauders because the Helions do the same job as the bats!!! and you say you defeated Makaprime??? you don't even have SC2 you faggot!!!
truknayr23 1 year ago
@truknayr23 Hahahaha! I was waiting for someone to notice. It proves that the test subject really follows all my postings! :-D
helenmont312 1 year ago
@helenmont312 test subject my arse... pffft... excuses excuses!!!LOL!!!No fire bats in SC2... No fire bats in SC2 LOL!!!! Very tough and very brave.. because your behind your keyboard LOL!!! internet toughie!!! get out of your mommas house!!! get a life and stop posing you gay poser!! you jealous of HD huh??? because your shout caster is a fag like you!!! LOL!!1
truknayr23 1 year ago
@truknayr23 Interesting psychological nut case you have there. Keep talking. Maybe we can compile a book on biggest jealous fags on the Net. lolx
helenmont312 1 year ago
@helenmont312 jealous? me? fag ? me? LOL!!! no man... i don't get jealous that easy... especially to posers and losers like you who pretend to be somebody great in you tube. LOL!!!! POSER!!! and so you say you have beaten maka prime many times.???STFU!!! you did not even know there are no FIREBATS in SC2 LOL!!!! go back to brood war man errr gay... your fans will cheer ya!!! LOL!!!
truknayr23 1 year ago
@truknayr23 Blah blah blah.... I have no time to entertain jealous noobs like you. Get a life man!
helenmont312 1 year ago
@helenmont312 what??? you use fire bats to beat pro toss??? uhm... your talking about brood war right??? this is SC2 man... no more fire bats here??? we got hellions and marauders though... and in which game you say you beat maka prime??? POSER!!!! LOL!!!!
truknayr23 1 year ago
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@truknayr23 Blah blah blah.... I have no time to entertain jealous noobs like you. Get a life man!
helenmont312 1 year ago
@truknayr23 you make me face palm when i think of the survival of mankind...
Bonerator 1 year ago
@helenmont312 do you actually know this is a SC2 comentary?
Buhoman2 1 year ago
@Buhoman2 Yeah, I know. I wanna see whether that dickless faggot truknayr23 is stalking and trolling on me. And I was right! :-p
helenmont312 1 year ago
toss is an op piece of shit
Fusionx916 1 year ago
wow @ that chick playing in watch?v=GLjOBith3Ek
Helloxas 1 year ago
nice game and as always, the best commentary evaaaaaaaaaar !!!
8echse 1 year ago
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8echse 1 year ago
best game!
czarniano 1 year ago
@czarniano complete your sentence "best game EVER!!!"
zenonzazira 1 year ago
"cloak vs cloak whos the clokiest?" lol
ninjaexilez 1 year ago
great game and commenting!
cyberbobpl 1 year ago
....ww....
Moeykaner 1 year ago
This game was just painful to watch. A few observers and some upgrades would have won the game in half the time.
HarpoonsTheMan 1 year ago
rofl terran made marine marauders medivac for like half the game... fucking terrans easy modes
npalardy 1 year ago
@npalardy You mean the whole game...
jrx75r 1 year ago
@npalardy the phrase is "protoss = starcraft on easy mode" and I invented it. No wonder though, protoss players don't have ideas too often.
omuploii 1 year ago
@omuploii all the terran had to do was go mech. But is obvious you've been touched in bad places by the toss, for not seeing that clearly.
JCeiver612 1 year ago
@JCeiver612 I'll be happy to give you a free demonstration of how I like to humiliate little protoss noobs in both SC1 and 2. But I'll talk to you once you actually play the game.
omuploii 1 year ago
@omuploii lol I own all 3 games. so go make assumptions somewhere else. Just makes you look like a tard on here.
JCeiver612 1 year ago
@JCeiver612 so you own all THREE games? Starcraft 1, 2 AND 3? Cool, you're a pathetic clueless tard, thx, bye.
omuploii 1 year ago
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@omuploii sc1 scbw AND sc2. that would be 1...2...3. as BW and sc1 are considered different games because of the 6added units instead of an expansion pack. ya TARD
JCeiver612 1 year ago
@JCeiver612 HAHAHAHAHA " I OWN ALL 3 GAMES" HAHAHAHAHA and talking about tards
Buhoman2 1 year ago
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JCeiver612 1 year ago
great game
obedebob 1 year ago
hmm yea
dgmaris 1 year ago
TERRAN IN UNDERPOWERED??? Just kidding, I got nothing to say... It's a stupid joke. But you know what? I think that Blizzard is testing the Terran's capabilities if something is not right. So don't take this comment seriously, it's a waste of time.
A useless comment, no need to reply. O.o
Armalizilto 1 year ago
@Armalizilto what a useless comment..
d3008 1 year ago
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@d3008 Told you! lol Now I go away.
Armalizilto 1 year ago