Daniel Barenboim - Pathétique - 3º movement

[whenmyguitar]

Thank you very much!

[NoMoosic1]

what a wonderful display of technical precision combined with musical passion.

[soussensjean]

Aucune délicatesse ! Et des libertés... Son jeu est froid.

Aucune finesse, il tape sur un piano !

Désolé !

[1979MrAndrew]

@soussensjean You should be insane to say that! Listen at least twice!

[marymroe]

I hate to admit, its almost like sneaking a peak at a porn movie, but I've been playing this adante instead of allegro. I'm enjoying hearing each note and how they fit. Not to worry, if I ever decide to perform I'll ratch it up to the allegro. Sacrilege for classical pianist but you should try it, its such a fantastic piece at any speed.

[Hypatiarhetoric]

@marymroe I don't think it's sacrilege. If only everyone was able or willing to taeke the time to delve into the music like that. Singers and instrumentalists frequently employ this technique for a long time before speeding up to concert tempo.

[marymroe]

@Hypatiarhetoric Your right. Time to set aside the required and just enjoy playing a piece the way I feel it.  If I ever decide to rent the Friday Musicale and perform, I'll play it to Beehoven's specifications. But for now I'm going to have fun and enjoy the nuances. So! How about making my left hand chase my right hand all through a piece. Should be an interesting challenge.

[zbryanpianist]

The artist is listed as Alfred Brendel under the video, which seems strange.

[Flutt3rshy]

@zbryanpianist What's strange about tha.... Oh I see, so you don't know about the conspiracy? Very well, carry on.

[1234Daan4321]

@Hypatiaphoenixreal Practice... a lot of practice

[Hypatiarhetoric]

@1234Daan4321 It's more than long hours of practice, which is the vital purview of every virtuoso. He has a crisp deftness which is unique.

[12345qazx1]

EXCELLENT.

[12345qazx1]

EXELLENT.

[shannong86]

Beethoven is the best composer ever!!

[rea002]

Fabulous rendition 

[metropolsynodgoc]

Mr Barenboim plays really majestically this beautiful piece... But... THE BEST INTERPRETATION OF THE LAST 111 YEARS comes from Maestro V. Gorovitch (I don't know why everybody call him "Horowitz" since his name is actually pronounced Gorovitch) gives really a boost to this masterpiece. I 'm sure L.V. Beethoven would liked it the most!

[rea002]

@metropolsynodgoc I dis agree Daniel Barenbiom is better cause he considers every note pplayed in great detail and his soul is in the playing

[hjzitc2010]

Absolutely amazing!

[TheChileanpsycho]

I prefer Arrau

Barenboim is too emotionless

[Axotrotl]

@TheChileanpsycho hmmm why do u think so??nope it is also full of life,both played it well,each in its style,only asians play emotionless

[Franciscanplaypiano]

@Axotrotl Only asians play emotionless?

Only an idiot would stereotype like that. Not all asian pianistic are 'emotionless' you fool.

[Axotrotl]

@Franciscanplaypiano well i meant almost all asians,that was only example...go to hell,or just never mind...Barenboim played well this piece.

[Franciscanplaypiano]

@Axotrotl Oh that makes it better, ALMOST all asians. Go to hell? There is no such place. But I agree, Barenboim does play the piece well.

[dorkydorky13]

@Franciscanplaypiano

Of course there is a hell. But I most definitely to NOT wish for anyone to go there. It's a place where you will be continuously burning. You need to repent from your ways and turn to God, otherwise you will go there. I'm praying for you!

[Franciscanplaypiano]

@dorkydorky13 Turn to God to save myself? fuck off with that religious shite.

[BeknDignum]

@dorkydorky13 The burden of proof rests upon you, the believer, to prove that there is a hell. Until then, it's nothing but a fairy tale to make sure you behave yourself.

On topic: This was played with just the right amount of passion. It's delicate yet powerful.

[PauuLiiZz]

@Apiterapeuta dejate de joder, en serio pensas eso?

[1wdcft6]

that patetique sonatas is a real nightmare to play

awasome

[gogglrte]

WHY IS THUS PIECE CALLED VIRUS? IN BEETHOVEN TIME THERE WERE NO VIRUSES DICOVERED!

[PauuLiiZz]

@gogglrte Actually, the piece you're talking about is "Beethoven Virus", and it's a cover made by Banya to Pump It Up (that dance game that you have to step arrows...).

[Kakabeblen]

I want to know what reson do people have to do a thumb down. Seriously.

[NikolaTesla234]

El mejor lejos...no por nada este tipo dirige a la mejor orquesta

[Thestienway]

thats the best pianist i have seen ever

[TheBarbaciano]

@Thestienway Then you have seen so few... Baremboim is OK, but check Gould, Argerich, Kissin, Lisitsa, Lang, Brendel, Arrau, Zimmerman, Levin, Jando... and I'm sure there are a lot more that they're not famous...

[PDF82]

Para mi tanto Bach, Beethoven, Mozart han sido y son grandes genios...cada uno en un estilo pero todavía hoy quien estudia piano, recurre a estos (entre otros).

Pienso que Beethoven tiene algo que Mozart que no, y viceversa igual que con el resto...:)

[DarkGreenMagician]

excuse me, but I think that sort the music that way is like pulling out it soul (sorry if my english is bad, isn't my mother lenguage)

[salmacics]

Obra magistral con su mejor interprete.

[salmacics]

Obra magistral interpretada como nadie.

[superindianspwn]

dude. if you don't like it, don't compare him to someone else. personally, i thought it's a hell of a performance.

[ulterior4]

Esto es musica! esto es arte! viva Beethoven! y todos los q reconocen aquello q esta encima de las notas: "La Musica y sus sentimientos"

[nvidia1618]

Sin duda Barenboim es el mejor pianista del mundo. Es el mejor interpretando la dificil, y a la vez bella musica de Beethoven. Si cierras los ojos es como escuchar al propio Beethoven tocar. Increible Barenboim! Bravo!

[vergali]

Es Buena Muy Buena Interpretacion , parece mas DUlce y no tan Agresiva como la de Fredy krempf

Me Gusta Me Gusta Mucho este SUjeto es un Maestro

[ernesto5757]

This pianist is also a conductor but is not able to keep a steady pulse for one full bar... It sounds so whimsical and unbalanced. It lack coloir and grace. The great pianist Solomon Cutner could give here some good lessons about the differene between fakeness and sincerity.... between expresivness and cliches... between common places and great art.

[MrVieweiV]

@ernesto5757 oh my dear lord...

[liteshark]

@ernesto5757 thats his trademark.to be relaxed yet firm.its not whimsical,except maybe wif his wrong notes,

[jjoottaammooss]

Amazing!!! ....

Buena!! ...

[nicecoolstuff13579]

The ten people who put a thumbs down sign for this video don't know what classical music is!:l

[Alex6092b]

I like people who are always compare the artist ... lol

This is music !!! Just enjoy it and stop to always criticize a performance or say "xxx is better" ... Music is a very personal things and because of this, a performance cannot do the unanimity ... So don't post to just say that you prefer an other guy, and try to understand why he plays it in this way and not another.

Sorry if my English is not perfect, I'm French. :p

[TheBrandan6]

me gusta la forma en que esta grabado ¿por que tiene que high definition? me encanta esas lineas lo hacen ver viejo como la epoca un pococ despues de rubinstein me gusta asi , te felicito , great

[clemona2005mk]

Bravo ! !　

[G0NZAL0666]

gulda Beethoven sonatas is best

[lourak]

Too many tempo manipulations and rhythmic affectations for my taste.

[ThePVGS1]

No way nine people dislike this excellent video!

[hohohee1]

@ThePVGS1 i disliked just cause you pointed that out

[ThePVGS1]

SU. Not a good reason.

[SebaRasta]

Barenboim, Argerich.........we have GREAT artists in Argentina, but too bad people here don't care abut them. Whatever, they're beyond the "popular taste"

[minasgekos]

excellent - very romantic way of playing

[MangaLover210]

what???

[benefielblues]

um... have you even heard the 3rd movement?

[Vesivian]

@benefielblues whats that supposed to mean?

[RequiemforSephiroth]

@benefielblues Why ?

[benefielblues]

@RequiemforSephiroth @Vesivian That was in reply to someone saying that this entire sonata is a fairly relaxed and intermediate piece.

[RequiemforSephiroth]

@benefielblues Oh okey

[King21973]

@benefielblues Compared to #23 it less technical, but in no ways it is an intermediate piece if played properly. This is a fantastic rendition!

[MangaLover210]

Is this song very very very hard to play ??

If it´s only very hard to play i thing i can learn...

someone who has play this and knows if its vey very hard to play?? I 11 and had play piano for 4 years.

[ReignOfPraine]

Don't call it a song...

[ReignOfPraine]

Of course people will understand what you mean. That doesn't stop them from thinking you're an absolute noob.

It's called a movement. Remember that.

[progrockkeyboardist]

You shouldn't be so harsh. He knows what the word is in his first language.

[EMPower08]

song, movement, whatever... it's music!

[MangaLover210]

I´m not an expert when it comes to classical music but i intrested in classical music so i think it´s good for me to know that this calls for a "movement" in english . Thank you for telling me !^ v ^

[PeachandCream]

If you're 11 years old (If I read the comment correctly), you might want to wait a few more years until your hands get bigger.

Pathetique is much easier after lots of practice and bigger hands. You might also want to try learning another one of Beethoven's easier sonatas to get the feel of how his harder sonatas are to be played.

[MangaLover210]

ok, i have play moonlight sonata mov.1 and Leichte sonate, can you recommed some of beethovens easier sonatas or piece to play??

[PeachandCream]

Well, it never hurts to try some other pieces. If you want, try learning the rest of Moonlight, and if the 3rd movement is too hard, then learn some other piano pieces before you learn something like the Pathetique.

Chopin's waltzes and nocturnes work on your playing quality. Some of Mozart's longer pieces work on your endurance without being too hard. Handel is pretty fun to play.

Just be really careful of not going TOO fast. That wouldn't be good. I hope all of that helped :)

[nirmz94]

@PeachandCream i'm a 15 year old girl, but 2 years ago, I could learn the pathetique :) My handspan is an octave :) is that normal?

[PeachandCream]

@nirmz94 A 1 octave hand span is perfectly normal and perfectly awesome :D

I guess I'm just being a douche and a perfectionist whenever someone asks me about "if I can learn..." etc. Did you learn the Pathetique 2 years ago? That's really good, 'cause I'm a guy and when I was 13 years old my hands were tiny lol. This may sound weird, but it's what you can do with your 1 octave hand instead of how big you can stretch it comfortably or how fast you can play^^

[nirmz94]

@PeachandCream Haha, you're not being a douche! :) And perfectionism is a good thing for pianists. I've had a one octave handspan for years though, but it makes Beethoven quite hard sometimes. Btw it sounds a little weird, but I get it :)

[bboymango]

play rachmoninoff

it'll stretch your hands ahha just kiddign

bach inventions and sinfonias are good for technique and hand independancy. and their good excecises for the fingers

[kusanagi69]

3:52-3:53 is my imagination or that sound some weird?

[thatssooriginal]

no fool LOL

[siojantera777]

it's my favorite sound of pianno

[thatssooriginal]

Beautiful.

[maxhansendk]

More mediocre playing...

[Matthewfawr]

Poor, hard done by you!

[tfman15]

idiot

[justwarren]

His interpretation is inspired and his execution is exquisite. I loved this! He is a true virtuoso! Bravo!

[hd26R601]

You forgot pretentious full-of-himself a sshole. But besides that, I totally agree with you.

[justwarren]

He's a pianist, not a suiter for your sister. I don't know Mr. Barenboim personally and I only know a little about his politics, which I admittedly find a little odd. But he is respresenting his art here, nothing else. Comments such as yours are unnecessarily vulgar and not appropriate for this forum. If you had a valid artistic gripe that's OK, but this kind of comment merely serves as grafitti on Youtube.

[hd26R601]

"Suiter for my sister", how long have you been waiting to crack out that gem? Hey listen this is one of the most beautiful interpretations of the 3rd movement in my opinion, no artistic gripe at all, just wanted take it to the next level. I mean have you watched a masterclass with this guy?

[justwarren]

I saw his masterclass with Lang Lang. I liked it a lot. I think he is one of the great musical geniuses of our time. Ironically, I did see him once in concert in NY and he had an off night and he just wasn't that good. But I have tremendous regard for him musically.

As for the comment "suiter for your sister" I don't know where it came from. But I think it's a good line. I wasn't saving it, it just popped up. I am assuming you really liked it. So, thank you.

[DivingCode]

beautiful !

I love his Beethoven !

[28071986mi]

Impresiaonante!!!que bonito!!y además hace propia la obra!!!! buenisimo!!! :-))

[Jesslyncool]

perfect!

[xxperrasxx]

It was interesting how he played the left hand part at 4:09. Very musical, this is such a difficult peice and I thought he did a very good job!

[MrAlexolguin]

that's great, the man play perfectly the piano.... We both play, but I can't play like him......

[nmoxfpxx]

Listening to it, I don't want it to stop...!

[Shihoru221]

Voila!

[shenkerfauno]

hey tchecbina...what do you talkin about??? are you crazy?? he is the best pianist of the world¡¡¡ are you best?? I don´t think so¡¡ vuela vuela...arrivederchii...hasta la vista...con cuesta parola il filito adio...¡¡

[igaligal613]

Best piece of music ever written by any composer. love 3.55

[wsm1986]

hamchenin

[sissichopin91]

this sonata touches the top of beauty! i love it!

[MillerMusicStudiosTV]

Wonderful!

[gonzal0999]

friedrich gulda is best...

[lovequeen2111]

I LOVE HIM!!!!!!!!

[PauuLiiZz]

Este tipo es dios...

[DarkGreenMagician]

@PauuLiiZz En realidad Beethoven es dios D: el viene a ser algo así como Jesucristo (?)

[TheBarbaciano]

@DarkGreenMagician Perdón que discrepe. Pero DIOS, así con mayúsculas, es Bach, el padre de todos: después vienen todos los demás: Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Lizt, Brahms, Schubert, Schumann... pero el origen, la fuente de todo, es sin duda Bach. Claro, lo grande de la música es eso: para mi es Bach, para otros será Beethoven o cualquier otro... y desde luego, el "Jesucristo" de Bach es Glenn Gould.

[DarkGreenMagician]

@TheBarbaciano Perdón que yo discrepe, pero Bach me parece demasiado allegreto y cuadrado. No le ponía la pasión que le ponía Beethoven o aun menos la que le ponía Chopin.

Pero es más un problema de su epoca y período. Es verdad que gracias a el existieron muchos grandes, pero no es POR EL que exisen, ya que de Bach a Beethoven hay una diferencia enorme.

[TheBarbaciano]

@DarkGreenMagician Para gustos hay sabores! No nos vamos a pelear por eso:-), pero a mi modo de ver Bach fue el primer músico de la historia que, casi sin proponérselo, separó la música de su función social... Bach es música pura, es decir, era música que uno se tenía que sentar a escucharla, y que requería ATENCIÓN y cultura musical por parte del oyente... de hecho así como Beethoven tiene estribillos tarareables, en Bach es muy dificil encontrar algo parecido...

[TheBarbaciano]

@DarkGreenMagician ...y por cierto... Alegretto y cuadrado? perdón, pero tu no has escuchado a Bach, o habrás escuchado cosas mal interpretadas, que las hay a porrillo. De hecho, hay trozos de Bach que tienen de Alegretto lo que un funeral. Repásate los discos de Gould, Café Zimmermann, Martha Argerich y Alexandre Tharaud. Que me digas que Mozart es Alegretto, pase, pero Bach? Bach más bien es profundo, intrincado y complejo que alegretto, en serio. Y si no, escucha "El arte de la fuga"

[TheBarbaciano]

@DarkGreenMagician Y además (y ya acabo) tanto Beethoven como Chopin sentían verdadera admiración por Bach. Por no hablar de Mozart, Brahms y todos los demás. Una obra musical no se aguanta 250 años porque sí. Bueno,. perdón por el rollo que te he soltado, pero como verás, Bach para mí es una obsesión...:-)

[jjp009]

The camera angles and the lighting are perfect for this music and Barenboim's mastery in capturing Beethoven's concepts and intentions! What a performance!

[Astercaos]

Que maestro !!!!!!! Geniooo!!!

[orleomarty]

hmh i prefer fredy kempf but barenboim is great too

[SarrasaniPianoCircus]

Boring as his usual

[lovequeen2111]

lol you wish!!

[tchebinai71]

i don't agree at all and even if.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ­ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ well i'm not fan of barenboim but i love 3.20

[Grigor99]

Barenboim is the only pianist I know that can actually make a fast movement sound like a "slow" movement without drastically changing the tempo. amazing!

[phyramus7]

In fact, he plays some parts of this Rondo-Allegro at 108/halfnote and others at 86 or even slower. He is thus very free towards the tempo, using several speeds. He is indeed changing tempo within this movement and sometimes he does so drastically. Anyone who really knows the score would notice. I would say that his playing is very free and flexible, beautifully shaped. He doesn't make a priority of bringing forth the structure but prefers emotion and playfulness.

[develish16]

dont forget that music is all about emotions so its not a machine playing by the beat. he's a human being and its normal that he changes the tempo according to his feelings. thats a thing we all piano players do

[phyramus7]

Well, Develish16, if you meant to respond to me I don't think that I really stressed that B. was 'a machine playing by the beat' neither that one should play in that manner. Meanwhile I wouldn't go as far as you to consider music being 'all about emotions' unless you consider all human thought as being 'emotion'. I think avoiding such kind of limitations helps us to open up endless possibilities. By the way, it's possible that yout didn't see to what I responded in my previous post.

[develish16]

yeah i guess that and i should also tell u that i didnt read all of the comment in the first place i just read about how fast is he playing, but anyway i agree that human thought isnt just directed by emotions or else we wouldnt have been to the moon. all im saying is that u can sometimes get carried aways while playing. that's because of the beauty and the spiritual effect of the piece on hand.

[lovequeen2111]

this is my fav movement, and Barenboim is a complete GENIUS.

[IAmLagging]

i love this song, i am playing it 2.

not as n1 as he does, but it is wonderful

[barbyrodo]

Bravo! para Baremboin! es el mejor sin duda y la verdad que demuestra todo su potencial con Beethoven.

Lo amoo!! un gran Musico con todas las letras!

[kyanhpham]

He's the best one who plays this song around here... So pity that the sound quality is not quite good, so I get hurt after listening. But, Thank you very much for sharing such beautiful performance !!!

[HoD3]

merveilleux interprète!

[ludwiggeohellas]

Barenboim is the best for Beethoven

[gorgalsi]

true

[4nna8elle]

cant be more true!!! i love barenboim's beethoven (^.,^) he made others sound so plain

[beethomozart]

long live ludwig van and also mr. baremboin.this 3rd movement releases the tension accumulated by the fantastic preceeding 2 movements.what an excelsus baremboin

[nyfradique]

Great performance. Thanks for post this video!

(He isn't a robot to play all the keys in tempo. This is just his interpretation, and its the diference beetween a good and a bad musician!)

[john9487]

It seems so easy for him,so natural...

5 stars!

[musicaclasica1985]

nunca falta la gente que es buena para criticar..

[lourak]

As in the first movement, too many alterations in tempo resulting in a serious dissipation of forward motion, just where it is most required. Otherwise, a nearly respectable performance.

[musicaclasica1985]

Sorry for the video's bad quality. My video recorder doesn't work well.

Perdón por las lineas molestas en el video. Mi videograbadora no funiona bien. Espero q lo disfruten igual!

[drsoftee]

@musicaclasica1985 Está chido... se escucha bien, que es lo importante

[danielhewson]

Great stuff