Phantom I had a Rifle Question. I own a UTG Type 96 and have bought some PDI upgrades. I notice you use a VSR-10. Would it be wise to abandon my current rifle for a VSR even though I have spent more money on it. Or should I stick with my Gun, and upgrade it full to it reaches its highest potential. Basically, does either design have advantages/disadvantages compared to one another.
My own experience of APS based rifles (which the UTG is a clone of); is that they are not as consistant as VSR10. The main difference being the hop system. The VSR10 system is accepted as being the most consistant/accurate. I have spoke to many other players who agree and said that despite throwing money at their APS/UTG it was never as accurate as VSR10 rifles they owned. Personally, I would look at how much money you would lose if you sold the UTG.
The 2ROY hop that I use is purely for tanaka gas rifles. PDI is known to be hard to set up. I rate the VSR10 factory standard hop up (either TM or JG), just fit a 9ball or firefly (hard) VSR hop rubber. I use the firefly in my VSR and the 9ball in the 2roy'd tanaka m40a1. Just wrap teflon tape around it to secure it to the inner barrel and reduce air leaks. I hope that helps.
I bought my 6.05mm 554mm PDI VSR barrel for only $55 (NEW) because back then they were so un popular. Now PDI make a 6.08mm and say that is the best for accuracy while 6.01mm is best for velocity. Thats from the xfire website, if you want to look it up. I bought all my kit based on value for money and so glad I did:) it works a treat and was somewhat cheaper than modern prices. If I had to pay modern prices, I would just get the laylax 6.03mm; far better value for money.
@phantomTMA I set-up my PDI in my UTG in the gun in not much time. If you are talking about tuning it so it throws bbs where I want. Yeah it was frustrating, but I got it where I want it and it hasn't moved. Plus I want that PDI barrel, unless someone makes a better one.
If the rifle shoots consistantly and accuratly where you want, then you should find it gets results on the gaming field and you don't need to replace it. I have no experience with the PDI hop so cannot comment on it myself; only what I had read.
@phantomTMA Sounds like a plan, Even with my PDI 6.01 which I have been told is the most accurate (Obviously not) I and still getting about 95% of my shots ending up right down the middle of my crosshair. Sometimes it will get pushed from a small breeze I did not account for. So I can expect even better with a 6.05 Barrel. If I don't this gun adequate and accurate. I will go VSR-10.
Airsoft parts are not really proven/compared to each other properly. If your shots fly straight and true; I don't see why you need to upgrade anything. imo, the quality of the barrel's inner surface is more important than the diameter, when it comes to hundredths of a milimeter. To shoot out to 300ft requires lob shooting with any airsoft gun/setup and for that I suggest a mil dot scope and a laser range finder. You get good at judging the lob shots.
I always fire a minimal amount of shots off on the range, at the beginning of any match. I use that to first adjust hop up (to get long flat trajectory) if needed (often I do not have to fiddle with hop). I then adjust my scope if required. 9 out of 10 times, I do not need to add a or remove any clicks at all. But it's still important to check and also get your spring upto consistant power for the coming game. Very cold temperature does affect the pellets trajectory.
I think if you watch this film back and imagine I have greys and black on me; I would stand out more. However, as always if you operated in teh correct areas (edge of the solid snow fields) it could be more effective. So it depends on the density of snow?
what do u hunt? animals? each other?? i mean, reindeers.... useles with a bbgun, i mean it can attack you if you hit it. it could be angry. serious. very serious. angry. yes.
cool videos as always just 1 question and 1 surgestion.
question: Where did you get your mesh goggles from?
surgestion: instead of a plastic bag as it makes alot of noise and the white isn't great and refelcts alot of sun. i would surjest an old pillow case as its matt so not too shinny.
Thanks. The goggles were imported from a US online shop, I have lost the link. The eyewear are called BUGZ (mesh size 10) and are for chainsaw work (not Airsoft rifles). Use these at your own peril.
The pillow case is a good idea, although as you will find, it will probably be "off white" and still hard to blend in perfectly. There are many shades of white material and to be honest much depends on how it reflects or absorbs the light. In this film, the sun is behind me so you are seeing that side of me thats in shadow.
i love how you used the simplest white clothing to blend in to your environment easily, i love the gun's pvc tape wrap :)
i'm working on my gun, it's for a waterfowl/woodland environment, i use the almost same design from your gun sock/scope look and it matches the field by my house perfectly (cane field has many different colors in the winter )
well, i dont live near any snow (Florida United States) but i have a sugestion. you blend into the snow with color, but not so much with space. try taking a bright white blanket that is the same color, and drag it along over you. you will blend in with shape AND color too! plus, when enemies get close you just hide under the blanket and wait for them to pass. they wont find you unless they step on u LOL!
hehe nice one,we played 2 in these snowy conditions.Loads of peeps thought where crazy..Also a tip put pepper in your socks and gloves ,this will keep stuff warm.And yes these oversuits are great,used a no 5 suit its kinda waterproof.Shame snow is melting now,was a fun hunt.
well phantom as allways i like your vids but i aint hunting anymore but i can still use it feks. when im in gudsö here i denmark i will think about so still love your vids
Thanks. I considered using a black chisel marker to add some dark patterns to break it up. Yet, decided I had enough contrast from my boots, gloves, goggles and rifle to need it in that density of snow.
I think it is because all footage taken into the sun, meaning the camera side was shaded and there stood out more. If I had filmed with the sun behind me, it would have blended better. This is an important lesson to learn.
It is also far harder to move smoothly in deep snow.
Phantom I had a Rifle Question. I own a UTG Type 96 and have bought some PDI upgrades. I notice you use a VSR-10. Would it be wise to abandon my current rifle for a VSR even though I have spent more money on it. Or should I stick with my Gun, and upgrade it full to it reaches its highest potential. Basically, does either design have advantages/disadvantages compared to one another.
bmx65 2 months ago
My own experience of APS based rifles (which the UTG is a clone of); is that they are not as consistant as VSR10. The main difference being the hop system. The VSR10 system is accepted as being the most consistant/accurate. I have spoke to many other players who agree and said that despite throwing money at their APS/UTG it was never as accurate as VSR10 rifles they owned. Personally, I would look at how much money you would lose if you sold the UTG.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 months ago
@phantomTMA Do you prefer the 2-roy hop, or would the PDI be great as well.
bmx65 2 months ago
The 2ROY hop that I use is purely for tanaka gas rifles. PDI is known to be hard to set up. I rate the VSR10 factory standard hop up (either TM or JG), just fit a 9ball or firefly (hard) VSR hop rubber. I use the firefly in my VSR and the 9ball in the 2roy'd tanaka m40a1. Just wrap teflon tape around it to secure it to the inner barrel and reduce air leaks. I hope that helps.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 months ago
@phantomTMA What Inner barrel do you like?
bmx65 2 months ago
PDI or Laylax barrels. 6.03-6.05mm. I believe the quality is more important than the diameter.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 months ago
@phantomTMA Would you say both Barrel brands perform the same? Because the difference in price is quite drastic.
bmx65 2 months ago
I bought my 6.05mm 554mm PDI VSR barrel for only $55 (NEW) because back then they were so un popular. Now PDI make a 6.08mm and say that is the best for accuracy while 6.01mm is best for velocity. Thats from the xfire website, if you want to look it up. I bought all my kit based on value for money and so glad I did:) it works a treat and was somewhat cheaper than modern prices. If I had to pay modern prices, I would just get the laylax 6.03mm; far better value for money.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 months ago
@phantomTMA I set-up my PDI in my UTG in the gun in not much time. If you are talking about tuning it so it throws bbs where I want. Yeah it was frustrating, but I got it where I want it and it hasn't moved. Plus I want that PDI barrel, unless someone makes a better one.
bmx65 2 months ago
If the rifle shoots consistantly and accuratly where you want, then you should find it gets results on the gaming field and you don't need to replace it. I have no experience with the PDI hop so cannot comment on it myself; only what I had read.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 months ago
@phantomTMA Sounds like a plan, Even with my PDI 6.01 which I have been told is the most accurate (Obviously not) I and still getting about 95% of my shots ending up right down the middle of my crosshair. Sometimes it will get pushed from a small breeze I did not account for. So I can expect even better with a 6.05 Barrel. If I don't this gun adequate and accurate. I will go VSR-10.
bmx65 2 months ago
Airsoft parts are not really proven/compared to each other properly. If your shots fly straight and true; I don't see why you need to upgrade anything. imo, the quality of the barrel's inner surface is more important than the diameter, when it comes to hundredths of a milimeter. To shoot out to 300ft requires lob shooting with any airsoft gun/setup and for that I suggest a mil dot scope and a laser range finder. You get good at judging the lob shots.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 months ago
@phantomTMA Oh and Thank you much. Good Hunting.
bmx65 2 months ago
No problem. Good to help and debate setups.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 months ago
Do you need to re-zero your scope for cold temps?
bmx65 6 months ago
I always fire a minimal amount of shots off on the range, at the beginning of any match. I use that to first adjust hop up (to get long flat trajectory) if needed (often I do not have to fiddle with hop). I then adjust my scope if required. 9 out of 10 times, I do not need to add a or remove any clicks at all. But it's still important to check and also get your spring upto consistant power for the coming game. Very cold temperature does affect the pellets trajectory.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 6 months ago
@phantomTMA Very helpful tips, thanks man. Your the best.
bmx65 6 months ago
I know you say you don't need to spend a lot Phantom but, I LOVE my RedHead parka and bibs camouflaged in AP Snow
bmx65 7 months ago
lol this is airsoft right?
Tadyon 10 months ago
My sport is HUNTEERING. Yes it utilises Airsoft equipment, but is not skirmish. look at the link on my channel for more info.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 10 months ago
Ha, love the deer running off at the end.
dom1940 1 year ago
i need to find a cheap periscope. does anyone know where i could get one?
k97c 1 year ago
Well... I do have a video on my SuburbanNinja8000 Page that does some Testing in the snow. i'll send you a video of that.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
Question Would Urban Camo work better (I call it Winter woodland camo)
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
I think if you watch this film back and imagine I have greys and black on me; I would stand out more. However, as always if you operated in teh correct areas (edge of the solid snow fields) it could be more effective. So it depends on the density of snow?
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 1 year ago
what do u hunt? animals? each other?? i mean, reindeers.... useles with a bbgun, i mean it can attack you if you hit it. it could be angry. serious. very serious. angry. yes.
ProLee93 1 year ago
I hunt, other 6mm HUNTERS; in Hunteering Matches. See our other films for more info...
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 1 year ago
@ProLee93 - He hunts People, in a Game called Airsoft.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
At the very end when you are leaving there are deer in the back-round running. Watch closely!
ljdcrazy13 1 year ago
cool videos as always just 1 question and 1 surgestion.
question: Where did you get your mesh goggles from?
surgestion: instead of a plastic bag as it makes alot of noise and the white isn't great and refelcts alot of sun. i would surjest an old pillow case as its matt so not too shinny.
mcally07 1 year ago
Thanks. The goggles were imported from a US online shop, I have lost the link. The eyewear are called BUGZ (mesh size 10) and are for chainsaw work (not Airsoft rifles). Use these at your own peril.
phantomTMA 1 year ago
The pillow case is a good idea, although as you will find, it will probably be "off white" and still hard to blend in perfectly. There are many shades of white material and to be honest much depends on how it reflects or absorbs the light. In this film, the sun is behind me so you are seeing that side of me thats in shadow.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 1 year ago
wat websites could you get good but quite cheap snipers
orangypeel 1 year ago
@orangypeel
cheep? no way.
ProLee93 1 year ago
what gun are you using
hello5893 1 year ago
In this film I have the JG BAR10.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 1 year ago
haha 3 deer run across the backround at the end of the video btw springs lose power in the winter as well so much so that we never play in winter
psychoferret24 1 year ago
Is stealth still being edited?
sniper6394 2 years ago
yes. I know it's been a long time in the making; but it's still in the works.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 years ago
i love how you used the simplest white clothing to blend in to your environment easily, i love the gun's pvc tape wrap :)
i'm working on my gun, it's for a waterfowl/woodland environment, i use the almost same design from your gun sock/scope look and it matches the field by my house perfectly (cane field has many different colors in the winter )
good hunting to you phantom :D
supernaturalforces 2 years ago
hey what is the stock spring in the jg bar10? i got mine yesterday but it seems a bit slow so i wanted to see if i could swap that one for my l96
nathankhalsa33 2 years ago
I think they are are not the same dimensions. Don't quote me. My JG is around 400fps with the stock spring.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 years ago
when you are going to upload your next video? i cant wait, awesome videos 5* =D
FinExtremeMX 2 years ago
Also, the blanket will sweep over your trackes and might cover them up depending on wether or not the snow is hard and crunchy or powdery.
Zero Missfire.
luck3yshot1 2 years ago
well, i dont live near any snow (Florida United States) but i have a sugestion. you blend into the snow with color, but not so much with space. try taking a bright white blanket that is the same color, and drag it along over you. you will blend in with shape AND color too! plus, when enemies get close you just hide under the blanket and wait for them to pass. they wont find you unless they step on u LOL!
luck3yshot1 2 years ago
Oh wow, got damned lucky with those deer in the background at the end!
darthsmidge 2 years ago
@darthsmidge those were snow rabbits.
muslim4life11 2 years ago
so they are, thanks for that!
darthsmidge 2 years ago
They are 100% deer. In the film, I look at the tracks in the area and guage the deer as yearlings.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 years ago
hehe nice one,we played 2 in these snowy conditions.Loads of peeps thought where crazy..Also a tip put pepper in your socks and gloves ,this will keep stuff warm.And yes these oversuits are great,used a no 5 suit its kinda waterproof.Shame snow is melting now,was a fun hunt.
Great job on the vid!
MrThunder001 2 years ago
well phantom as allways i like your vids but i aint hunting anymore but i can still use it feks. when im in gudsö here i denmark i will think about so still love your vids
ps. when do the movie get out
Dum3ga
Dum3ga 2 years ago
how far do you live from the woods?
me and my friends would have tot ravel to get to some
lilben869 2 years ago
Nice Phantom! I love your videos and was hoping for some snow tips, those tracks are a real bugger xD The rabbits at the end made me laugh too
Rane014 2 years ago
have you had so much snow yet? :D
blaszko10 2 years ago
I think he did very good, could use some white gloves and boots, nothing recycling can't help you with.
neilhockeypro 2 years ago
Hey Phantom!
Nice Vid! But I think "BW Schneetarn" is better.
StahlenderWind 2 years ago
Thanks. I considered using a black chisel marker to add some dark patterns to break it up. Yet, decided I had enough contrast from my boots, gloves, goggles and rifle to need it in that density of snow.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 years ago
Hmm, colour.. ok, but ur silhouette is kinda.. visible. I'd keep away from open areas. Nice video though ;D
PoLskiDRES 2 years ago
And i though your Tanaka will not work in these kind of temperatures.
PoLskiDRES 2 years ago
He runs a MagnumBB CO2 system on his tanaka i believe, hes got a review in his vids.
11039078 2 years ago
I do say in the video that you want to avoid gas guns in those conditions. That is a BAR10 in the film.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 years ago
I think it is because all footage taken into the sun, meaning the camera side was shaded and there stood out more. If I had filmed with the sun behind me, it would have blended better. This is an important lesson to learn.
It is also far harder to move smoothly in deep snow.
Good Hunting ;)
phantomTMA 2 years ago
Yeah, if you know where the target is, and if you have a lot of time, you can try to get to the shot sight which is with the sun :D
PoLskiDRES 2 years ago
Very didactic : )
huntingbb 2 years ago
I love winter ware far! Easy to blend in or easy camouflage. Very cheap.(but I use a snow parka that cost $10) And its very fun!
The only thing I hate is when you use a AEG. Your gearbox is weaker and more likely to crack.
Kkr3wK 2 years ago
Another awesome vid mate :P
cpk93 2 years ago
froze at 4:26. great vid though, while it lasted
kumquatsta 2 years ago
snow hunting rules
double2echo 2 years ago
ex military?
liam5991 2 years ago
@liam5991 no.
cpk93 2 years ago
great ... simply great... where r u from phantom ? i live in italy. if u will ever come here just say it to me !
SniperRulez89 2 years ago
i was just wondering ware you guys were! keep it up! great video!
blackhawlk2262 2 years ago
hey if you hunt deer, there were some in the last few secs running at the left of the camera lol
blackhawlk2262 2 years ago
Those were rabbits, genius :P
spitfire690 2 years ago
@spitfire690 we have a mystery rabbits or deer, that is the question :|
cpk93 2 years ago
No wait sorry, they're deer, they looked like rabbits then I realized they were further...
spitfire690 2 years ago