well well... alot of archeological proofs was found in Nevada, they discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 CE in Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico, you should know that Islam reached North Africa in 639. Spain in 711, and that is the point where Muslim sailors start exploring the Atlantic ocean, they reached the Caribbean sea and north America. some of them settled there or start trading business with the locals
My father taught me there is only one God, as a child this was simple to understand, then as I got older I asked him why there are so many religions, and he said that it was due to mans arrogance that he would dominate over others but there was still only one God. My father was not Muslim. When I got a little older , I started to search for my own ways. I tried just about every religion there is or at least read about it. I became a Muslim on my own and then I met the Muslims. They suffer from
This is so embarassing. I am a Muslim and to see things like this is a shame. That band of "Cherokees" are not federally recognized for a reason. It's a mormon belief that the Jews came here and the "Indians" are actually Jews. Islam was not revealed until the 7th century CE. Saying Native American's are Muslims is a incorrect statement that serves only as a political purpose. There are however Aborigional people who have converted to Islam in recent years, but that is a separate thing. *
@jbags84 well well... alot of archeological proofs was found in nevada by Dr. Barry Fell (Harvard University) also he discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 CE in Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico, you should know that Islam reached North Africa in 639. Spain in 711, and that is the point where Muslim sailors start exploring the Atlantic ocean, they reached the Caribbean sea and north America. some of them settled there or start trading business with the locals
@jbags84 well well... alot of archeological proofs was found by Dr. Barry Fell, also he discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 ( Nevada, Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico )
@jbags84 well well... many proofs shows that they reached north America and the Caribbean sea long ago between 700 and 1000 CE and some of the archeological proofs are preserved in the university of california
@jbags84 many proofs shows that they reached north America and the Caribbean sea long ago and many of the archeological proofs are preserved in the university of california :)
@jbags84 well well... alot of archeological proofs was found in nevada also they discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 CE in Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico, you should know that Islam reached North Africa in 639. Spain in 711, and that is the point where Muslim sailors start exploring the Atlantic ocean, they reached the Caribbean sea and north America. some of them settled there or start trading business with the locals
@jbags84 remember, Muslim is someone who is a "believer" and submits to God. Whether or not you believe any Muslims had contact with Native Americans is not the main point. If you read the history and learn of the different cultures and religions of Native American people you will discover very similar themes that are also in Islam. The belief in one Creator/God, how they pray, and wash before prayer, how men will be rewarded or punished in the next life etc.
@jbags84 remember, Muslim is someone who is a "believer" and submits to God. Whether or not you believe any Muslims had contact with Native Americans is not the main point. If you read the history and learn of the different cultures and religions of Native American people you will discover very similar themes that are also in Islam. The belief in one Creator/God, how they pray, and wash before prayer, how men will be rewarded or punished in the next life etc.
@jbags84 Just as Muslims would call Abraham or Adam Muslim, is the similar to calling other people who are believers as well because they have the main tenents of belief required in Islam. Islam was perfected when Muhammed (SAW) came and taught it to keep people on the straight path but Islam has been an ongoing thing. I've heard the belief that the Indigenous people are one of the lost tribes of Israel, I think many Africans are but I don't have proof of that and I don't think you do either.
The entier continent of america was muslim before these dirty non-believers came from europe. Islam is the oldest religion int eh world, rest are just myths and fairy tales.... Islam will dominate the world bcoz it is the truth.
As a Native American Muslima, I would like to clear up these misconceptions. The Cherokee were NOT Muslim. The man you read this article about is not an enrolled member of the Cherokee tribe, and is not a pipe carrier. He is right in the regards that some muslims made contact with our people, and yes there was some cultural exchange. If I had more space, I would clear up as much of this as I could, but I am limited. Just remember that to "each nation has been sent a messenger. "
@brusum thankyou very much. At least you were kind. Many non muslims just curse me out for no reason which is wrong. But I would like to know more from you. I never claimed to be an expert, was just reading an article I came across. Also, how you as a native became muslim. :)
@brusum I agree that Cherokee are not Muslim. However I think may be our ancestors bought Muslims and Jews from the Spanish.Muslims and Jew may have just ran away from the Spanish and lived with our people.Some of the early fur traitor may very well been Jewish and married Cherokee women.I know my mother's brothers DNA show they could have been Arab or Jewish.
Sejarah Realiti: Empayar Islam hingga ke benua Amerika.
Jika anda mengunjungi Washington DC, pergilah ke Perpustakaan Kongres (Library of Congress). Minta arkib perjanjian kerajaan Amerika Syarikat dengan suku Cherokee, salah satu suku Indian, tahun 1787. Di sana akan ada tanda tangan ketua suku Cherokee zaman itu, bernama AbdeKhakdan Muhammad Ibnu Abdullah.Ketua suku terakhir Cherokee sebelum akhirnya benar-benar punah dari tanah Amerika adalah seorang Muslim bernama Ramadan Ibnu Wati.
@NoorminAllah this information is a Moorish fabrication. You can google Turtle Island Muslims and the article digging red roots, it explains in detail the falsehood of this info.
This Sioux indian would like to disagree with this false tribes-man who worships a false god, there is no God except the creator, he who does not condone violence except love peace and nature, when the time of war erupts between his children he cries thus the rain we recieve, when he is happy his smile radiates beauty thus the sunshine and grass flowers that grow, when he is angry his rage explodes and crashed upon the land thus the lightning and thunder. We shall not be alienated by foreigners
You are wrong lady the cherokees worshipped YHWH and we have artifacts to prove that they wrote in ancient hebrew. Lady Please take down your false video.
This is the Arab Christian lady who converted to Islam. Her ancestors survived for many centuries protecting their religion from the sword of Muslim conquerors only for her to abandon and disgrace her heritage in one quick Shahada.
Doesn't matter Cheerokee or whatever, but if a people believed in the 'one creator' then they were Muslims. Muslim means 'at peace with God, with nature, with the spirits, guardians (angels) and the animals. The Qur'an says " There is not a single race, tribe or people that was not sent a messenger by God". Islam is much much older then the prophets, the qur'an, thora or bible or even shamanism It is the prime ordeal religion. Nabi Muhammad (saw) taught us the Deen in a Middle Eastern context
@MrSouthy706 You may be right - even most muslims today are not muslims. There is also the creation of great delusion and unskillfullness (which arises through severe false understanding). Many peple will confuse this for god. They will themselves become like vengefull spirits in human form.
to cont.: When he was born in 1922, the family lived on a reservation & the parents are over 1/2 Indian can't be citizens by law that was changed by the 1925 American Indian citizenship act. When he joined the Marines in 1942, he received an official US citzenship form & said he passed as "white", therefore he forsake Native American in terms of race or tribal affiliation. My Mom never cared to join & didn't want to get into race issues: but she had long dark hair, light tan skin & cheekbones. +
to cont.: When he was born in 1922, the family lived on a reservation & the parents are over 1/2 Indian can't be citizens by law that was changed by the 1925 American Indian citizenship act. When he joined the Marines in 1942, he received an official US citzenship form & said he passed as "white", therefore he forsake Native American in terms of race or tribal affiliation. My Mom never cared to join & didn't want to get into race issues: but she had long dark hair, light tan skin & cheekbones. +
Sca: I believe from what my aunt Teresa told me: The Cooweecooscee district in what is now Oologah near Claremore, Lenape (we may have Delaware or Shawnee relatives) & Catoosa which is by Tulsa. My grandpa returned to Okla. in the late 1960s along with the family except my Mom stayed in Cal., he was a Marine fought in WWII (the Pacific) & Korea. He moved to L.A. during WWII & stayed there for 3 decades. He died in 2007 in Tulsa, but failed to claim tribal membership benefits .+
The Cherokee are a mixed race group, intermarried with other tribes, white Europeans & Africans, or Asians in some extent. Many moved to California during the dust bowl & Great depression eras, in which my maternal grandpa was part of. He was born in 1922 in Skiatook, north of Tulsa in the Osage county reservation. His mother is full-blooded Cherokee/Osage & his father 1/4th of Scottish descent, they had a total of 9 children. They were farm sharecroppers went to Kern county Ca. north of L.A. +
@Scabzilla49 I believe from what my aunt Teresa told me: The Cooweecooscee district in what is now Oologah near Claremore, Lenape (we may have Delaware or Shawnee relatives) & Catoosa which is by Tulsa. My grandpa returned to Okla. in the late 1960s along with the family except my Mom stayed in Cal., he was a Marine fought in WWII (the Pacific) & Korea. He moved to L.A. during WWII & stayed there for 3 decades. He died in 2007 in Tulsa, but failed to claim tribal membership benefits .+
@demikede1 I'm sorry but I meant what Osage district does your family come from; Grayhorse, Hominy, Pawhuska. There used to be 4 Osage districts(Barnsdall) but their Inlonschka was too small, so they just merged with Hominy. At least thats what I was told as a kid.
@Scabzilla49 No problem...Skiatook seems closer to Hominy, but they tend to live in the Cherokee Nation & went to the Osage county side of town. My aunt said to me some of the Cherokee relatives came from MountPattillo, about 10 miles west of Fort Smith not far from Sallisaw. I had the chance to visit the Cherokee Heritage Center in Park Hill near Tahlequah & the Five Civilized Tribes/Indian Nations Museum by Muskogee. Very nice to see the Cherokee nation is still around, esp. in Tahlequah. +
@Scabzilla49 I believe from what my aunt Teresa told me: The Cooweecooscee district in what is now Oologah near Claremore, Lenape (we may have Delaware or Shawnee relatives) & Catoosa which is by Tulsa. My grandpa returned to Okla. in the late 1960s along with the family except my Mom stayed in Cal., he was a Marine fought in WWII (the Pacific) & Korea. He moved to L.A. during WWII & stayed there for 3 decades. He died in 2007 in Tulsa, but failed to claim tribal membership benefits .+
@demikede1 I think its cool & interesting that you know what Cherokee district you're from. I didn't know Cherokee's had districts. But, yeah, I think its also neat that you know the traditional Cherokee name of your district. Most Cherokees I know don't know jack about their traditions/language. An they're fullbloods! I know the traditional Osage names for the 3 districts: Pa.su.li(Grayhorse) Zon.zo.li(Hominy) Wa.xa Ko.Lin(Pawhuska).
To continue, Cherokees were influenced by Spanish & later French explorers in the 1600's & early 1700's, yet the prevalence of non-Anglo Europeans was low. I don't knew anything on Middle Eastern/Islamic influences, but I knew the heavily westernized Cherokees in the Southeast before their relocation to Indian territory in present-day Oklahoma, were able to keep & own African slaves until the civil war broke out 150 yrs. ago. Many Cherokee freedmen or part-black Indians lived among the tribe. +
I happen to be of Cherokee/Osage descent, yet I heard of stories or legends about there were lots of Scots, Welsh, Germans & Moravians whom settled down into the Cherokee tribe in the 17th century. Some theories of Portuguese, Croatian, Turkish & Basque roots on the U.S. Eastern seaboard before they moved further inland to the Appalachians as well, to merged with Cherokees, Creeks or Choctaws by the 1700s. The rate of intermarriage with white Europeans was reportedly high of the Cherokees. +
That's funny, I've studied the Cherokee religion, and it is NOTHING like Islam. For one, they didn't follow a single God. Although Unequa, the Great Spirit, was their chief spirit, they revered many others.
I wasn't generalizing, I was saying I saw a you tube vid of a sheikh claiming they spoke arabic. Not my opinion. Just something I saw. Chip on shoulder or what?
I love native americans too. I was just commenting on another comment. I have no evidence it may not even be true, yet you were quick to snipe back. I think it would be nice, being Muslim myself, if native americans became muslim. Islam solves problems in the world and brings peace
I love native americans too. I was just commenting on another comment. I have no evidence it may not even be true, yet you were quick to snipe back. I think it would be nice, being Muslim myself, if native americans became muslim. Islam solves problems in the world and brings peace
@MrLarry2002 Yes, I know I was quit to snipe back, and I apologize for it. But if you were Indigenous I'm sure you would understand, too. My tribes culture, religion, & language are at risk of becoming extinct, because of some other races religion.... Don't foreigners ever think God or Allah showed himself to us too? I'd rather follow & have faith in Usen(God/Allah) than some religion..... God gives me peace, not some religion.
this is an insane distortion of history. Let's clear some things up: Arabic is a LANGUAGE, not a Holy Tongue, and Native Americans have NEVER spoken it. Muhammad happened to be in Arabia, so GOD sent him a message so people could understand it, and that language was ARABIC! Turbans are NOT Islamic. They are part of the frickin Arabic CULTURE! The majority of Native Americans did NOT wear turbans. Lastly, Eagle Sun Sky Walker is NOT a fucking authentic Native American name!
@MrLarry2002 Oh buh. Quit generalizing us as if we are all the same!! Thats just like saying all the people from Asia have slanted eyes, yellow skin, and speak Chinese!! We never spoke Arabic. Each tribe has its own languages that God gave us and they are all not the same!! For instance, my Mom speaks Cibecue-dialect of Apache, if a Jicarilla Apache tried to talk to her they wouldn't understand each other!
@Scabzilla49 True, the diversity of North American Indians is unique but common in the wide world of human cultures. The US government has nearly eradicated them or attempted to replace their original cultures with that of the white men, during the removals & land confiscations. I admire the Apache, Comanche, Hopi, Navajo or Nadene, the multiple Pueblos, Utes or Paiutes, & Zuni in the Southwestern US. I live in the Indio-Palm Springs area known for some transplanted Apaches & local Cahuilla. +
@kirokyukan Allah is the Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. The owner of Soveignty. He is the Creator, the Sustainer. He promised the pious would inherit the earth. To Him we belong and to Him we shall return.
Cherokee or Tsalagi is an Iroquoian language. The Word "Cherokee" is Creek (a Muskogean language) for 'people with another language'. The word "Tallahassee" is a Muskogean Indian word often translated as "old fields." Cherokees never lived in New York or Florida as a tribe or band. They principally lived in GA, NC, SC, and TN until Andrew Jackson Moved them to OK (the trail of tears).
@NoorminAllah you are welcome. I was unable to find any refrence of Ramadhan Ibn Wati in any site other than on certain muslim sites. The only Watie that I have found was Brig. General Stand Watie (his name is Cherokee for stand firm) who lead the Cherokee, Seminole, Muskogee Indians during the Civil War 1861-65 for the Confederacy. He was the last Confederate General to surrender to the Union. And he was a Christian and primary Chief for the Cherokee Nation from 1862-66.
@NoorminAllah which one? The Articles of Association (agreement between the 13 colonies), The Articles of Confederation (the failed 1st independent government of the U.S.), The U.S. Constitution, The Constitution of The Confederate States of America (held as voided by loss of the civil war), or that of the certain States in the U.S.?
@NoorminAllah Thomas Jefferson physically wrote the Declaration of Independence with the help some say of Benjamin Franklin. But Jefferson was not there for the signing of the United States Constitution, which is our current governing document (and its radification was a bloodless coo by the way). Thomas Jefferson did not even sign the Articles of Confederation. I could look up the religon of the founders but I don't know how to attach websites for citation purposes. If you know plz teach me.
@knitestalkers well if you have to put a website use this format: islam-guide dotcom I put a space between the word and the . and spelled out dot instead of the period
@NoorminAllah I hate the way you distort Native American history to propagate a socio-political agenda cloaked with religion. There was NO connection between islam and Native American tribes at least until the late 19th or early 20th centuries, and to claim otherwise is absurd. As a native of eastern Oklahoma, with Cherokee ancestry, I find your statements to be insulting and dishonest, not to mention dishonorable. This propaganda you spew, smacks of historical revisionism.
@knitestalkers is it true that the tsalagi aniyuwiya once lived in new york state and that the shawnee travelled as far as north carolina to wage war with them?
@jamiirali1 the Cherokee peoples used to live in prehistoric times in Ohio and Ohio River Valley. They were forced out by other tirbes (which Might actually have been other Iroquoian Tribes) and moved South to TN, NC, SC, GA and parts of Alabama. The Iraquoian tribes that lived in the NY area were the Senecas, Cayugas Tuscaroras, Oneidas and Mohawk while related they were Not Cherokee.
@myway43 i am shure america were inhabited by paleo indians before anyone but i know also of ancient mariners from midleeaster land that visited & trade with amerindians no surprise here with know of the turks `& moors , i spececulate that indian from india brough the maya here & olmescs came from africa & toltecs frm egypt and other parts of the world ( the columbus story is a sham if this is truth may fall in to a conspiraccy theory but time will tell.
@thenewend2012 Thanks, very interesting. In my Church, (LDS Church) Joseph Smith taught that Indians are decended from a middle Eastern People, namely from Jerusalem. Of course this has brought much debate and even some ridicule, but it is interesting still. I was watching a TV show a while back. It seems that most of the things that science once knew in regards to who settled in Pre-Columbian America are not so written in stone anymore. Thanks again
aslaamu wa laikum This is beautiful sista. Those Native American Muslims you are speaking of are the socalled African Americans this is history that universities and elites peoples try to hide to keep this american dream alive
The Moors were not limited to black Africans from west or north Africa, they are Arabic-speaking Berbers also of the so-called Caucasoid race...and settled Spain when it was under Islam from the 700s AD to the end of the 15th century. When the Christian Castilians reconquered Spain by 1492, followed by the Spanish inquistion, theorists said thousands of Spanish Moors were deported & sent to the extremity of the Spanish empire of Florida, and these people went north to settled the Appalachians. +
I happen to be Cherokee/Osage descent from my maternal Grandfather born & raised in Skiatook north of Tulsa, Ok. He was of a full-blood (?) mother & 1/4th father of Scottish descent. In the 1930s his family of sharecroppers moved to Kern County, Cal. and then to L.A. on the outbreak of WWII, when he enlisted in the US Marines in Feb. 1942. He was declared "passing white" due to his lighter appearance, therefore he got a new "official" not BIA birth record to prove his natural-born citizenship. +
@alexmecca100 did you not see the treaties that were signed? Did you not read the article or listen to the video? The Prophet Mohamed saws said there would be people who claim prophecy after him, but they are false. He is the seal of the Prophets saws.
@alexmecca100 He didn't. THis is fortold in the jewish scriptures just like so many other things in the jewish scriptures regarding Jesus and MOhamed saws.
Yea that was a fake. That name I've heard before. It was the name of some person claiming to be cherokee. Most of the imposters usually claim they are cherokee.
@ApacheLife5465 can u prove this? Also, did you check up on the treaties, etc. mentioned in the video? Islam has been in America for a long time. R u apache?
@NoorminAllah I can also tell you that the name Eagle Sun Sky Walker is NOT an authentic Native American name. Whoever it is, sounds like they got it by watching Star Wars and a Clint Eastwood movie. lol "EAGLE SUN SKY WALKER" lol cant believe you believe the guy exists lol.
It was written buy Muhir etc. aka Eagle Sun Walker, lol you don't even know this person to judge by his blog. LOL! go look at credible information. There have been historical accounts by some historians that the Moors of North Africa first had contact with North America long before Columbus, but google his name and his alias and you will find nothing on this imposter named "Eagle Sun Walker" NOTHING! I went over this guy's blog 5 years ago and Googled his name and asked people
@MobHeataEnt ok we will check. Thanks for the advice. Maybe one day we will find that guy if he exists. I think there is a muslim native american organization. Might wanna try them.
I would like to let you know that you are wrong, I am a big percentage of native american, 30% to be exact from the tribe of choctaw and the article you are reading is made up fiction, you should look more into it though, it might be good for you to learn new things of the culture.
@HUNTER831415 Wow the guy who made this article was 100 percent cherokee. If the article I was reading was fiction,(which it is not) how come everything he says is true? He even tells you to go and confirm the information and tells you how. Would a liar do that? Seriously, you can keep telling yourself you are correct, but it doesn't make it so. ;)
Assalamu Alaykum Sister, Thank you very much for this Video may Allah Almighty bless you always, my parents always told me America belong to Muslims I was young and I didn't understand it that time. Now praise be to Allah America belong truly to Muslims and islam.
what is cherokee???
afad128 1 month ago
@afad128 cherokee is the name of a native american tribe
NoorminAllah 1 month ago
I hope that he has some questions to see these valuable lecture on the history of Muslims in America. It is on YouTube.
Muslims in American History: A Forgotten Legacy
nicotine500 2 months ago
:)
battossai1 3 months ago
nice video
battossai1 3 months ago
agree with this video because many archeological proofs was found and preserved in cali university
battossai1 3 months ago
many archeological proofs was found in north America and Caribbean sea, and they are preserved in California University :)
battossai1 3 months ago
well well... alot of archeological proofs was found in Nevada, they discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 CE in Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico, you should know that Islam reached North Africa in 639. Spain in 711, and that is the point where Muslim sailors start exploring the Atlantic ocean, they reached the Caribbean sea and north America. some of them settled there or start trading business with the locals
battossai1 3 months ago
Oh, and Alhumdulilah, I am Mi'kmaq.
canadianmuslimnproud 3 months ago
My father taught me there is only one God, as a child this was simple to understand, then as I got older I asked him why there are so many religions, and he said that it was due to mans arrogance that he would dominate over others but there was still only one God. My father was not Muslim. When I got a little older , I started to search for my own ways. I tried just about every religion there is or at least read about it. I became a Muslim on my own and then I met the Muslims. They suffer from
canadianmuslimnproud 3 months ago
@canadianmuslimnproud masha Allah! Welcome to islam!
NoorminAllah 2 months ago
This is so embarassing. I am a Muslim and to see things like this is a shame. That band of "Cherokees" are not federally recognized for a reason. It's a mormon belief that the Jews came here and the "Indians" are actually Jews. Islam was not revealed until the 7th century CE. Saying Native American's are Muslims is a incorrect statement that serves only as a political purpose. There are however Aborigional people who have converted to Islam in recent years, but that is a separate thing. *
jbags84 3 months ago
@jbags84 thanks for letting us know.
NoorminAllah 3 months ago
@jbags84 well well... alot of archeological proofs was found in nevada by Dr. Barry Fell (Harvard University) also he discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 CE in Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico, you should know that Islam reached North Africa in 639. Spain in 711, and that is the point where Muslim sailors start exploring the Atlantic ocean, they reached the Caribbean sea and north America. some of them settled there or start trading business with the locals
battossai1 3 months ago
@jbags84 well well... alot of archeological proofs was found by Dr. Barry Fell, also he discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 ( Nevada, Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico )
battossai1 3 months ago
@jbags84 well well... many proofs shows that they reached north America and the Caribbean sea long ago between 700 and 1000 CE and some of the archeological proofs are preserved in the university of california
battossai1 3 months ago
@jbags84 many proofs shows that they reached north America and the Caribbean sea long ago and many of the archeological proofs are preserved in the university of california :)
battossai1 3 months ago
@jbags84 well well... alot of archeological proofs was found in nevada also they discovered the existence of many Muslim schools dating back to 700-800 CE in Colorado, Indiana, and New Mexico, you should know that Islam reached North Africa in 639. Spain in 711, and that is the point where Muslim sailors start exploring the Atlantic ocean, they reached the Caribbean sea and north America. some of them settled there or start trading business with the locals
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@jbags84 remember, Muslim is someone who is a "believer" and submits to God. Whether or not you believe any Muslims had contact with Native Americans is not the main point. If you read the history and learn of the different cultures and religions of Native American people you will discover very similar themes that are also in Islam. The belief in one Creator/God, how they pray, and wash before prayer, how men will be rewarded or punished in the next life etc.
Bootstataboots 2 weeks ago
@jbags84 remember, Muslim is someone who is a "believer" and submits to God. Whether or not you believe any Muslims had contact with Native Americans is not the main point. If you read the history and learn of the different cultures and religions of Native American people you will discover very similar themes that are also in Islam. The belief in one Creator/God, how they pray, and wash before prayer, how men will be rewarded or punished in the next life etc.
Bootstataboots 2 weeks ago
@jbags84 Just as Muslims would call Abraham or Adam Muslim, is the similar to calling other people who are believers as well because they have the main tenents of belief required in Islam. Islam was perfected when Muhammed (SAW) came and taught it to keep people on the straight path but Islam has been an ongoing thing. I've heard the belief that the Indigenous people are one of the lost tribes of Israel, I think many Africans are but I don't have proof of that and I don't think you do either.
Bootstataboots 2 weeks ago
The entier continent of america was muslim before these dirty non-believers came from europe. Islam is the oldest religion int eh world, rest are just myths and fairy tales.... Islam will dominate the world bcoz it is the truth.
shubroto81 4 months ago
As a Native American Muslima, I would like to clear up these misconceptions. The Cherokee were NOT Muslim. The man you read this article about is not an enrolled member of the Cherokee tribe, and is not a pipe carrier. He is right in the regards that some muslims made contact with our people, and yes there was some cultural exchange. If I had more space, I would clear up as much of this as I could, but I am limited. Just remember that to "each nation has been sent a messenger. "
brusum 5 months ago
@brusum thankyou very much. At least you were kind. Many non muslims just curse me out for no reason which is wrong. But I would like to know more from you. I never claimed to be an expert, was just reading an article I came across. Also, how you as a native became muslim. :)
NoorminAllah 5 months ago
@NoorminAllah My main problem with your religious leaders is the same as with other religions. They do not teach you to communicate with God.
shood1943 3 months ago
@shood1943 We don't need religious leaders to teach us this. We have God Himself and the prophets (peace be upon them) to teach us
NoorminAllah 3 months ago
@brusum I agree that Cherokee are not Muslim. However I think may be our ancestors bought Muslims and Jews from the Spanish.Muslims and Jew may have just ran away from the Spanish and lived with our people.Some of the early fur traitor may very well been Jewish and married Cherokee women.I know my mother's brothers DNA show they could have been Arab or Jewish.
jtbing66 4 months ago
@jtbing66 interesting.
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@jtbing66 I believe in telling the truth. The truth is that we absorb. Not near as messy as war. Cheaper too.
shood1943 3 months ago
@brusum And I would like to know how the Muslims would deal with me. Open your mouth you volunteer to take my place and fill my shoes.lol, lol,
shood1943 3 months ago
@shood1943 God Almighty says in the Quran to deal justly those who deal justly with you. And to be kind with those who are kind with you.
NoorminAllah 3 months ago
Sejarah Realiti: Empayar Islam hingga ke benua Amerika.
Jika anda mengunjungi Washington DC, pergilah ke Perpustakaan Kongres (Library of Congress). Minta arkib perjanjian kerajaan Amerika Syarikat dengan suku Cherokee, salah satu suku Indian, tahun 1787. Di sana akan ada tanda tangan ketua suku Cherokee zaman itu, bernama AbdeKhakdan Muhammad Ibnu Abdullah.Ketua suku terakhir Cherokee sebelum akhirnya benar-benar punah dari tanah Amerika adalah seorang Muslim bernama Ramadan Ibnu Wati.
bahasajawi 6 months ago
@bahasajawi can you put this comment in english too?
NoorminAllah 6 months ago
@NoorminAllah this information is a Moorish fabrication. You can google Turtle Island Muslims and the article digging red roots, it explains in detail the falsehood of this info.
miighankurt 6 months ago 6
that makes more sense than saying that Columbus was the first discoverer ....
WeSSENT457 6 months ago
This Sioux indian would like to disagree with this false tribes-man who worships a false god, there is no God except the creator, he who does not condone violence except love peace and nature, when the time of war erupts between his children he cries thus the rain we recieve, when he is happy his smile radiates beauty thus the sunshine and grass flowers that grow, when he is angry his rage explodes and crashed upon the land thus the lightning and thunder. We shall not be alienated by foreigners
jizmacdacusha 6 months ago 5
You are wrong lady the cherokees worshipped YHWH and we have artifacts to prove that they wrote in ancient hebrew. Lady Please take down your false video.
MrSouthy706 6 months ago
This is the Arab Christian lady who converted to Islam. Her ancestors survived for many centuries protecting their religion from the sword of Muslim conquerors only for her to abandon and disgrace her heritage in one quick Shahada.
Ryanyarb24 7 months ago 2
machAllah thanks you sister! i am native american muslima ,where did you find this article?
Msbulldoze 8 months ago
@Msbulldoze masha Allah tell us your story.
NoorminAllah 8 months ago
Doesn't matter Cheerokee or whatever, but if a people believed in the 'one creator' then they were Muslims. Muslim means 'at peace with God, with nature, with the spirits, guardians (angels) and the animals. The Qur'an says " There is not a single race, tribe or people that was not sent a messenger by God". Islam is much much older then the prophets, the qur'an, thora or bible or even shamanism It is the prime ordeal religion. Nabi Muhammad (saw) taught us the Deen in a Middle Eastern context
intezam 9 months ago
@intezam Wrong I believe in 1 Creator and I am not muslim.
MrSouthy706 6 months ago
@MrSouthy706 You may be right - even most muslims today are not muslims. There is also the creation of great delusion and unskillfullness (which arises through severe false understanding). Many peple will confuse this for god. They will themselves become like vengefull spirits in human form.
intezam 6 months ago
to cont.: When he was born in 1922, the family lived on a reservation & the parents are over 1/2 Indian can't be citizens by law that was changed by the 1925 American Indian citizenship act. When he joined the Marines in 1942, he received an official US citzenship form & said he passed as "white", therefore he forsake Native American in terms of race or tribal affiliation. My Mom never cared to join & didn't want to get into race issues: but she had long dark hair, light tan skin & cheekbones. +
demikede1 10 months ago
to cont.: When he was born in 1922, the family lived on a reservation & the parents are over 1/2 Indian can't be citizens by law that was changed by the 1925 American Indian citizenship act. When he joined the Marines in 1942, he received an official US citzenship form & said he passed as "white", therefore he forsake Native American in terms of race or tribal affiliation. My Mom never cared to join & didn't want to get into race issues: but she had long dark hair, light tan skin & cheekbones. +
demikede1 10 months ago
Sca: I believe from what my aunt Teresa told me: The Cooweecooscee district in what is now Oologah near Claremore, Lenape (we may have Delaware or Shawnee relatives) & Catoosa which is by Tulsa. My grandpa returned to Okla. in the late 1960s along with the family except my Mom stayed in Cal., he was a Marine fought in WWII (the Pacific) & Korea. He moved to L.A. during WWII & stayed there for 3 decades. He died in 2007 in Tulsa, but failed to claim tribal membership benefits .+
demikede1 10 months ago
The Cherokee are a mixed race group, intermarried with other tribes, white Europeans & Africans, or Asians in some extent. Many moved to California during the dust bowl & Great depression eras, in which my maternal grandpa was part of. He was born in 1922 in Skiatook, north of Tulsa in the Osage county reservation. His mother is full-blooded Cherokee/Osage & his father 1/4th of Scottish descent, they had a total of 9 children. They were farm sharecroppers went to Kern county Ca. north of L.A. +
demikede1 10 months ago
@demikede1 What district does your family come from?
Scabzilla49 10 months ago
@Scabzilla49 I believe from what my aunt Teresa told me: The Cooweecooscee district in what is now Oologah near Claremore, Lenape (we may have Delaware or Shawnee relatives) & Catoosa which is by Tulsa. My grandpa returned to Okla. in the late 1960s along with the family except my Mom stayed in Cal., he was a Marine fought in WWII (the Pacific) & Korea. He moved to L.A. during WWII & stayed there for 3 decades. He died in 2007 in Tulsa, but failed to claim tribal membership benefits .+
demikede1 10 months ago
@demikede1 I'm sorry but I meant what Osage district does your family come from; Grayhorse, Hominy, Pawhuska. There used to be 4 Osage districts(Barnsdall) but their Inlonschka was too small, so they just merged with Hominy. At least thats what I was told as a kid.
Scabzilla49 9 months ago
@Scabzilla49 No problem...Skiatook seems closer to Hominy, but they tend to live in the Cherokee Nation & went to the Osage county side of town. My aunt said to me some of the Cherokee relatives came from MountPattillo, about 10 miles west of Fort Smith not far from Sallisaw. I had the chance to visit the Cherokee Heritage Center in Park Hill near Tahlequah & the Five Civilized Tribes/Indian Nations Museum by Muskogee. Very nice to see the Cherokee nation is still around, esp. in Tahlequah. +
demikede1 9 months ago
@Scabzilla49 I believe from what my aunt Teresa told me: The Cooweecooscee district in what is now Oologah near Claremore, Lenape (we may have Delaware or Shawnee relatives) & Catoosa which is by Tulsa. My grandpa returned to Okla. in the late 1960s along with the family except my Mom stayed in Cal., he was a Marine fought in WWII (the Pacific) & Korea. He moved to L.A. during WWII & stayed there for 3 decades. He died in 2007 in Tulsa, but failed to claim tribal membership benefits .+
demikede1 10 months ago
@demikede1 I think its cool & interesting that you know what Cherokee district you're from. I didn't know Cherokee's had districts. But, yeah, I think its also neat that you know the traditional Cherokee name of your district. Most Cherokees I know don't know jack about their traditions/language. An they're fullbloods! I know the traditional Osage names for the 3 districts: Pa.su.li(Grayhorse) Zon.zo.li(Hominy) Wa.xa Ko.Lin(Pawhuska).
Scabzilla49 9 months ago
To continue, Cherokees were influenced by Spanish & later French explorers in the 1600's & early 1700's, yet the prevalence of non-Anglo Europeans was low. I don't knew anything on Middle Eastern/Islamic influences, but I knew the heavily westernized Cherokees in the Southeast before their relocation to Indian territory in present-day Oklahoma, were able to keep & own African slaves until the civil war broke out 150 yrs. ago. Many Cherokee freedmen or part-black Indians lived among the tribe. +
demikede1 10 months ago
I happen to be of Cherokee/Osage descent, yet I heard of stories or legends about there were lots of Scots, Welsh, Germans & Moravians whom settled down into the Cherokee tribe in the 17th century. Some theories of Portuguese, Croatian, Turkish & Basque roots on the U.S. Eastern seaboard before they moved further inland to the Appalachians as well, to merged with Cherokees, Creeks or Choctaws by the 1700s. The rate of intermarriage with white Europeans was reportedly high of the Cherokees. +
demikede1 10 months ago
That's funny, I've studied the Cherokee religion, and it is NOTHING like Islam. For one, they didn't follow a single God. Although Unequa, the Great Spirit, was their chief spirit, they revered many others.
sandorsbox 10 months ago 4
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DeathShamans 10 months ago
@scabzilla49. Yes no probs. Sorry you took offence. I admire native Indians and think it's a shame they are getting wiped out. P.s. I like your photo
MrLarry2002 11 months ago
I wasn't generalizing, I was saying I saw a you tube vid of a sheikh claiming they spoke arabic. Not my opinion. Just something I saw. Chip on shoulder or what?
MrLarry2002 11 months ago
@MrLarry2002 Well send me the link in a message. You got me interested....
Scabzilla49 11 months ago
I love native americans too. I was just commenting on another comment. I have no evidence it may not even be true, yet you were quick to snipe back. I think it would be nice, being Muslim myself, if native americans became muslim. Islam solves problems in the world and brings peace
MrLarry2002 11 months ago
I love native americans too. I was just commenting on another comment. I have no evidence it may not even be true, yet you were quick to snipe back. I think it would be nice, being Muslim myself, if native americans became muslim. Islam solves problems in the world and brings peace
MrLarry2002 11 months ago
@MrLarry2002 Yes, I know I was quit to snipe back, and I apologize for it. But if you were Indigenous I'm sure you would understand, too. My tribes culture, religion, & language are at risk of becoming extinct, because of some other races religion.... Don't foreigners ever think God or Allah showed himself to us too? I'd rather follow & have faith in Usen(God/Allah) than some religion..... God gives me peace, not some religion.
Scabzilla49 11 months ago
I thought Tsalagi people like other SE tribes practiced Green Corn before the foreigners showed up?
Scabzilla49 11 months ago
@Scabzilla49 Not really sure, but I have respect for all native americans for who they are.
NoorminAllah 11 months ago
I HOPE ALL NATIVE AMERICANS BECOME MUSLIMS. THE ALCOHOL IS RAVAGING THESE COMMUNITIES. AND THEY ARE THE NICEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
glower125 1 year ago
@glower125 I love them too. :) You can do your part by inviting them to islam and education. Did you know sister Amina assilmni?
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
this is an insane distortion of history. Let's clear some things up: Arabic is a LANGUAGE, not a Holy Tongue, and Native Americans have NEVER spoken it. Muhammad happened to be in Arabia, so GOD sent him a message so people could understand it, and that language was ARABIC! Turbans are NOT Islamic. They are part of the frickin Arabic CULTURE! The majority of Native Americans did NOT wear turbans. Lastly, Eagle Sun Sky Walker is NOT a fucking authentic Native American name!
DaYungGuy 11 months ago 15
@DaYungGuy sir, are you aware that your comment is full of so much anger. It is not very respectful to curse in this manner.
NoorminAllah 11 months ago
@NoorminAllah Yes.
DaYungGuy 11 months ago
According to a Lebanese sheikh the native Americans god bless em spoke Arabic at the time of Columbus
MrLarry2002 1 year ago
@MrLarry2002 And what is your evidence for that claim?
DaYungGuy 11 months ago
@MrLarry2002 Oh buh. Quit generalizing us as if we are all the same!! Thats just like saying all the people from Asia have slanted eyes, yellow skin, and speak Chinese!! We never spoke Arabic. Each tribe has its own languages that God gave us and they are all not the same!! For instance, my Mom speaks Cibecue-dialect of Apache, if a Jicarilla Apache tried to talk to her they wouldn't understand each other!
Scabzilla49 11 months ago
@Scabzilla49 True, the diversity of North American Indians is unique but common in the wide world of human cultures. The US government has nearly eradicated them or attempted to replace their original cultures with that of the white men, during the removals & land confiscations. I admire the Apache, Comanche, Hopi, Navajo or Nadene, the multiple Pueblos, Utes or Paiutes, & Zuni in the Southwestern US. I live in the Indio-Palm Springs area known for some transplanted Apaches & local Cahuilla. +
demikede1 10 months ago
@kirokyukan Allah is the Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. The owner of Soveignty. He is the Creator, the Sustainer. He promised the pious would inherit the earth. To Him we belong and to Him we shall return.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
They was & Before Columbus Attack...
Souldjah008 1 year ago
@Souldjah008 please tell us more.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah ... Islam in America before Columbus : (1) /watch?v=CvWmm2-3l5I :::: (2) /watch?v=uO0mcM3ZIjQ ... PeaCe ...
Souldjah008 1 year ago
Do Muslims have Red towns of War and White towns of Peace?...That was the Tsalagi way......
Anaris10 1 year ago
Cherokee or Tsalagi is an Iroquoian language. The Word "Cherokee" is Creek (a Muskogean language) for 'people with another language'. The word "Tallahassee" is a Muskogean Indian word often translated as "old fields." Cherokees never lived in New York or Florida as a tribe or band. They principally lived in GA, NC, SC, and TN until Andrew Jackson Moved them to OK (the trail of tears).
knitestalkers 1 year ago
@knitestalkers hey thanks very much. I hate the way the native american history is distorted etc.!
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah you are welcome. I was unable to find any refrence of Ramadhan Ibn Wati in any site other than on certain muslim sites. The only Watie that I have found was Brig. General Stand Watie (his name is Cherokee for stand firm) who lead the Cherokee, Seminole, Muskogee Indians during the Civil War 1861-65 for the Confederacy. He was the last Confederate General to surrender to the Union. And he was a Christian and primary Chief for the Cherokee Nation from 1862-66.
knitestalkers 1 year ago
@knitestalkers We need to check the constitution and the signers.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah which one? The Articles of Association (agreement between the 13 colonies), The Articles of Confederation (the failed 1st independent government of the U.S.), The U.S. Constitution, The Constitution of The Confederate States of America (held as voided by loss of the civil war), or that of the certain States in the U.S.?
knitestalkers 1 year ago
@knitestalkers the one jefferson signed.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah Thomas Jefferson physically wrote the Declaration of Independence with the help some say of Benjamin Franklin. But Jefferson was not there for the signing of the United States Constitution, which is our current governing document (and its radification was a bloodless coo by the way). Thomas Jefferson did not even sign the Articles of Confederation. I could look up the religon of the founders but I don't know how to attach websites for citation purposes. If you know plz teach me.
knitestalkers 1 year ago
@knitestalkers well if you have to put a website use this format: islam-guide dotcom I put a space between the word and the . and spelled out dot instead of the period
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah, if you hate the way Native American history is distorted, why are you doing it even worse than Americans do?
FlaviaR 1 year ago
@FlaviaR Have you ever read the Quran?
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah I hate the way you distort Native American history to propagate a socio-political agenda cloaked with religion. There was NO connection between islam and Native American tribes at least until the late 19th or early 20th centuries, and to claim otherwise is absurd. As a native of eastern Oklahoma, with Cherokee ancestry, I find your statements to be insulting and dishonest, not to mention dishonorable. This propaganda you spew, smacks of historical revisionism.
randy63ism 9 months ago 32
@randy63ism A-Fucking-Men!!!! What's next, they invent the wheel, popcorn and space travel, too???
MrDolemike1977 7 months ago 3
@randy63ism Beautifully put my friend....
BroseShuffz 7 months ago
@knitestalkers is it true that the tsalagi aniyuwiya once lived in new york state and that the shawnee travelled as far as north carolina to wage war with them?
jamiirali1 1 year ago
@jamiirali1 the Cherokee peoples used to live in prehistoric times in Ohio and Ohio River Valley. They were forced out by other tirbes (which Might actually have been other Iroquoian Tribes) and moved South to TN, NC, SC, GA and parts of Alabama. The Iraquoian tribes that lived in the NY area were the Senecas, Cayugas Tuscaroras, Oneidas and Mohawk while related they were Not Cherokee.
knitestalkers 10 months ago
@knitestalkers shukraan wa jazakallah khair.
jamiirali1 10 months ago
This is stuff that they hold back they don't want to tell the people.. A mosque is more AMERICAN then APPLE PIE!
MeNaBuK 1 year ago
Would you assert that the Cherokee might be of middle Eastern descent?
myway43 1 year ago
@myway43 i am shure america were inhabited by paleo indians before anyone but i know also of ancient mariners from midleeaster land that visited & trade with amerindians no surprise here with know of the turks `& moors , i spececulate that indian from india brough the maya here & olmescs came from africa & toltecs frm egypt and other parts of the world ( the columbus story is a sham if this is truth may fall in to a conspiraccy theory but time will tell.
thenewend2012 1 year ago
@thenewend2012 Thanks, very interesting. In my Church, (LDS Church) Joseph Smith taught that Indians are decended from a middle Eastern People, namely from Jerusalem. Of course this has brought much debate and even some ridicule, but it is interesting still. I was watching a TV show a while back. It seems that most of the things that science once knew in regards to who settled in Pre-Columbian America are not so written in stone anymore. Thanks again
myway43 1 year ago
@myway43 Look up a youtube video called ancient arabs in america, pretty fascinating! Thanks
myway43 1 year ago
@myway43 thanks. take care
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@myway43 So you are mormon? Have you ever read the Quran and compared it to your book of mormon?
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah No I haven't ever really read it. I looked at it once at Borders.
myway43 1 year ago
aslaamu wa laikum This is beautiful sista. Those Native American Muslims you are speaking of are the socalled African Americans this is history that universities and elites peoples try to hide to keep this american dream alive
ASKIAOTA 1 year ago
The Moors were not limited to black Africans from west or north Africa, they are Arabic-speaking Berbers also of the so-called Caucasoid race...and settled Spain when it was under Islam from the 700s AD to the end of the 15th century. When the Christian Castilians reconquered Spain by 1492, followed by the Spanish inquistion, theorists said thousands of Spanish Moors were deported & sent to the extremity of the Spanish empire of Florida, and these people went north to settled the Appalachians. +
demikede1 1 year ago
@demikede1 Thankyou so much for sharing this information with us. it is very interesting.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
I happen to be Cherokee/Osage descent from my maternal Grandfather born & raised in Skiatook north of Tulsa, Ok. He was of a full-blood (?) mother & 1/4th father of Scottish descent. In the 1930s his family of sharecroppers moved to Kern County, Cal. and then to L.A. on the outbreak of WWII, when he enlisted in the US Marines in Feb. 1942. He was declared "passing white" due to his lighter appearance, therefore he got a new "official" not BIA birth record to prove his natural-born citizenship. +
demikede1 1 year ago
May Allah bless you my sister
MrWestgo 1 year ago
@alexmecca100 did you not see the treaties that were signed? Did you not read the article or listen to the video? The Prophet Mohamed saws said there would be people who claim prophecy after him, but they are false. He is the seal of the Prophets saws.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah The Prophet Mohamed saws said there would be people who claim prophecy after him
Of course Muhammad can claim that he is the last prophet.....but who is he to put a period on what God's plan?
alexmecca100 1 year ago
@alexmecca100 He didn't. THis is fortold in the jewish scriptures just like so many other things in the jewish scriptures regarding Jesus and MOhamed saws.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah, there is nothing in Torah about Jesus. Just because some people decided they wanted it to be so doesn't make it so.
FlaviaR 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah
just dream
Yochananable 1 year ago
Yea that was a fake. That name I've heard before. It was the name of some person claiming to be cherokee. Most of the imposters usually claim they are cherokee.
ApacheLife5465 1 year ago 3
@ApacheLife5465 can u prove this? Also, did you check up on the treaties, etc. mentioned in the video? Islam has been in America for a long time. R u apache?
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
Masha Allah good vidoe
Jazake Allah khyer
They have to hide the facts
Christians killed the red indians , but musls made a peace treaty with then . This proves to me Islam is the truth and Christianity is a falsehood .
ayamen2 1 year ago
@MobHeataEnt what can you tell us about your knowledge of islam within the cherokee community?
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
@NoorminAllah I can also tell you that the name Eagle Sun Sky Walker is NOT an authentic Native American name. Whoever it is, sounds like they got it by watching Star Wars and a Clint Eastwood movie. lol "EAGLE SUN SKY WALKER" lol cant believe you believe the guy exists lol.
MobHeataEnt 1 year ago 17
It was written buy Muhir etc. aka Eagle Sun Walker, lol you don't even know this person to judge by his blog. LOL! go look at credible information. There have been historical accounts by some historians that the Moors of North Africa first had contact with North America long before Columbus, but google his name and his alias and you will find nothing on this imposter named "Eagle Sun Walker" NOTHING! I went over this guy's blog 5 years ago and Googled his name and asked people
MobHeataEnt 1 year ago
@MobHeataEnt ok we will check. Thanks for the advice. Maybe one day we will find that guy if he exists. I think there is a muslim native american organization. Might wanna try them.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
When i hear things like these, i always get one thought: we really need media education at schools.
JNiina 1 year ago 6
I would like to let you know that you are wrong, I am a big percentage of native american, 30% to be exact from the tribe of choctaw and the article you are reading is made up fiction, you should look more into it though, it might be good for you to learn new things of the culture.
HUNTER831415 1 year ago 4
@HUNTER831415 Wow the guy who made this article was 100 percent cherokee. If the article I was reading was fiction,(which it is not) how come everything he says is true? He even tells you to go and confirm the information and tells you how. Would a liar do that? Seriously, you can keep telling yourself you are correct, but it doesn't make it so. ;)
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
Assalamu Alaykum Sister, Thank you very much for this Video may Allah Almighty bless you always, my parents always told me America belong to Muslims I was young and I didn't understand it that time. Now praise be to Allah America belong truly to Muslims and islam.
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HAGROOS 1 year ago
Ohh my goshh are you serious sister??
bab3iiblush 1 year ago
@bab3iiblush yep
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
Well I just watched ur video couldn't understand some part as i dont know about history that much ! well be safe take care .. wassalam
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