commentators are really good but they are a little bit bias over zerg players. I am a zerg player so I am rooting for zerg players too but commentators must be neutral in order to be better.
I'm still not really familiar with terran mech, but wouldn't a quick tech to filer/ling be absolutely devastating to that build? I know that maybe the timing would be hard to pull off against that terran push, it seems like you would suddenly make like 100 food worth of goliath/tank completely useless with one or two defilers and 2 groups of cracklings?
Defilers aren't nearly as effective against mech as against mnm. Plague is good but dark swarm is almost useless. If z goes defiler then t can mass tanks and everything under swarm gets taken out by splash.
there is a match i forget who are the players, but there are 4-5 stop lurkers, and the mech units just stay above it. when the luker is unleashed, one scan kill all the lurker without losing a single tank or galith...
I definetely not agree with the fact that Hero should went for Hive tech. He doesnt have the time for it and if he went for hive it was gg 5 minutes earlier.
Flash vs GGplay was different. Flash pushed out much later. GGplay had like 7 bases.
Hero did the best he can. That muta harass was great. He got 3/4 gol which makes the enemy push worse.
One mistake of Hero could be that he should try to expand one more time at the left (put 4rd and 5th at the same time).
I'm still impressed with Hero. I don't think there was much else he could have done at that point, except maybe harass more with his mutas. He almost still pulled it off.
Hero had a good chance to win after fighting off that first attack aswell I think. He was running four bases against two, so he should have been able to win if he kept the preassure up and prevented hwasin from building up a large force like that.
You guys keep making a few mistakes analyzing mech builds, and how the Zerg should stop them, so respectfully I think you should listen to Day[9]'s rant (for lack of a better word) about how to stop mech as zerg (search for it on TL).
This is the same build that Cholera hated so adamantly when Flash did it--the no-scout 14CC vs. Zerg. I honestly think it's important to consider the risks involved in these strategies before immediately labeling them as brilliant or fail. It really was just a risk that paid off.
Agreed. When I saw this 14cc I was thinking the same thing. If he had done it and failed we all would have said he was an idiot for trying it. But then again, it's worth the risk if you don't do it often. I get frustrated with Flash, because he just does it way too much to the point where it seems he's just being arrogant, his opponents are much more aware of it, and thus he often pays dearly.
This was as much of a buildorder loss as many of the zvz's. Based on this I could only hope next game to be 5pool vs 14cc. I don't think any zerg would've won this after these BOs.
ya but he could still take up an chinese screen name, just because you are korean does not mean your screen name has to be korean, hence savior and stork
And we´re guaranteed to see a gg in the next five seconds...4...3...2...1... GG!!!!!!!
God that was awsome xD
HellfireRE 2 years ago 2
commentators are really good but they are a little bit bias over zerg players. I am a zerg player so I am rooting for zerg players too but commentators must be neutral in order to be better.
Callisto70 2 years ago
LOL at 12:30 looks like the golliath is pushing the tank along XD
orville101191 2 years ago
WOW GG XD
ChaChrisChan 2 years ago
Gotta say, I like rise's commentary voice. It seems like someone's a commentator on tv for a sport.
buddyboy122122 2 years ago
"All kinds of balls."
0.0
This is rape.
exactlythatsthepoint 2 years ago
Very gutsy move going strait to goliaths! Nice call on the GG!
DerFlo4711 2 years ago
dude whats GG???
vio48 3 years ago
gg stands for 'Good Game' :)
tyraelpl 3 years ago 5
I think that may have been a curtain
Athos90 3 years ago
zerg need to stop using tier 1 hydras against tier 2 mech
xantares13 3 years ago
oh man i loved the GG countdown. amazing.
mrsmi1ey 3 years ago 9
lol rise, im impressed by your gg timing skill
richardsjobergmjaoo 3 years ago 5
Omg, i loved the countdown =D He was clearly losing already so im glad that he didn't make the game longer than it should have. gg
Yuicy 3 years ago
Rofl, nice countdown. Totally called that pocket Jacks.
synix09 3 years ago
it's like the AC/DC song BIG BALLS :)
Slaphappy1975 3 years ago
hwasin is my fav player :), love when he stomped jae
3xilewarrior 3 years ago
Time to learn korean Rise !
DonPisot 3 years ago
G to the G to the G!
SleeperLv 3 years ago
I'm still not really familiar with terran mech, but wouldn't a quick tech to filer/ling be absolutely devastating to that build? I know that maybe the timing would be hard to pull off against that terran push, it seems like you would suddenly make like 100 food worth of goliath/tank completely useless with one or two defilers and 2 groups of cracklings?
pianomikey0 3 years ago
Defilers aren't nearly as effective against mech as against mnm. Plague is good but dark swarm is almost useless. If z goes defiler then t can mass tanks and everything under swarm gets taken out by splash.
odourpreventer 3 years ago
cholera u forgot to mention that last season in the game GGplay vs FlaSh before ultra ling kicks in
GGplay did mass good 4 or 5 group of muta remember ? and he totally smash flash first push using super crapload of muta + ultra + ling
mortalchung 3 years ago
Nice countdown :p
cieltsd 3 years ago 4
It's the Final Countdown.
fatshadow92 3 years ago 2
DO DE DO DO
DO DE DO DO DO
Schlickk 3 years ago
wow, nice call on the GG
tinsleyjamaal 3 years ago
lol Hero! hero not a zero!
cdavisfour 3 years ago
:( T mech vs Z is like gas steal proxy gates vs T BOOORING
cdavisfour 3 years ago
Good I hate this T mech so lame and boring.
sh02hp0869 3 years ago
Gee geeeeeeee
xsagradoxcorazonx 3 years ago
GREAT commentary. The 5-second prediction was wonderful.
xodarapi 3 years ago 4
yea lol 1 GG!!!
cdavisfour 3 years ago 2
"Five freakin factories! .....uh nice alliteration there" Lol Rise is hilarious. Nice dual commentary like always guys.
zeromk5 3 years ago
I was really waiting for some stop lurkers.. they would have slayed mech. :D
LordInferno 3 years ago
not really...
there is a match i forget who are the players, but there are 4-5 stop lurkers, and the mech units just stay above it. when the luker is unleashed, one scan kill all the lurker without losing a single tank or galith...
116973260 3 years ago
I definetely not agree with the fact that Hero should went for Hive tech. He doesnt have the time for it and if he went for hive it was gg 5 minutes earlier.
Flash vs GGplay was different. Flash pushed out much later. GGplay had like 7 bases.
Hero did the best he can. That muta harass was great. He got 3/4 gol which makes the enemy push worse.
One mistake of Hero could be that he should try to expand one more time at the left (put 4rd and 5th at the same time).
Tillysouth 3 years ago
Spoiler Alert Please.
dinbolleven 3 years ago
I'm still impressed with Hero. I don't think there was much else he could have done at that point, except maybe harass more with his mutas. He almost still pulled it off.
stevethemacguy 3 years ago 2
Hero had a good chance to win after fighting off that first attack aswell I think. He was running four bases against two, so he should have been able to win if he kept the preassure up and prevented hwasin from building up a large force like that.
Stormwern 3 years ago
lol, nice call
Stormwern 3 years ago
wow that was a great game
agenttatsuda 3 years ago
that countdown was money, nice job
wytaugie 3 years ago 4
lol epic count down
kulls13 3 years ago 2
omg rise is so funny... XD and cholera is growing on me :)
CrazyCrackahMelakle 3 years ago 2
Word up on the GG countdown Rise
KaizenKitchen 3 years ago 2
no audio-sync pic? :(
darthrevan6 3 years ago
You guys keep making a few mistakes analyzing mech builds, and how the Zerg should stop them, so respectfully I think you should listen to Day[9]'s rant (for lack of a better word) about how to stop mech as zerg (search for it on TL).
wswordsmen 3 years ago
will do.
SC2GGRise 3 years ago
This is the same build that Cholera hated so adamantly when Flash did it--the no-scout 14CC vs. Zerg. I honestly think it's important to consider the risks involved in these strategies before immediately labeling them as brilliant or fail. It really was just a risk that paid off.
EebstertheGreat 3 years ago
Agreed. When I saw this 14cc I was thinking the same thing. If he had done it and failed we all would have said he was an idiot for trying it. But then again, it's worth the risk if you don't do it often. I get frustrated with Flash, because he just does it way too much to the point where it seems he's just being arrogant, his opponents are much more aware of it, and thus he often pays dearly.
stevethemacguy 3 years ago
This was as much of a buildorder loss as many of the zvz's. Based on this I could only hope next game to be 5pool vs 14cc. I don't think any zerg would've won this after these BOs.
Ougagagoubou 3 years ago
ahh cholera lmaoo! stop calling hero "zero" =p
GreatOneDuh 3 years ago
awesome GG countdown XD
RapedByTheLight 3 years ago
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Haha, great call on that GG Moletrap.
idontcallpeople 3 years ago
it was Rise...
FAIL comment lol
pelaxix 3 years ago
Yeah, how can you mix up Rise and Moletrap??
pianomikey0 3 years ago
Fuck me, last time I make a comment while drunk apparently.
idontcallpeople 2 years ago
why does rise always call hwasin hwashin
deadceyx 3 years ago
It's possible that that's how Koreans would pronounce it, but I'm not sure...I've heard it pronounced both as "Hwa-sin" and "Hwa-Shin"
G0dly0ne 3 years ago
Hwa-Shin makes sense, because it means peanut. Hwa-Sin is just a foreigner's bad attempt at speaking chinese
MidsummerNightScream 3 years ago
i remeber Cholera explained the meaning of the name Hwasin. if i am correct, it means fire or something..
116973260 3 years ago
but i think he is wrong, it's supposed to be hwa-shin
MidsummerNightScream 3 years ago
You mean Korean? Hence, Korean Progamer.
Alabame 2 years ago
ya but he could still take up an chinese screen name, just because you are korean does not mean your screen name has to be korean, hence savior and stork
MidsummerNightScream 2 years ago
because its actually hwasheen... but i don't commit.
VioleTAK 3 years ago
@deadceyx because although the "h" sound is absent from the written script, "화신" is supposed to be pronounced Hwashin.
2009xellos 5 months ago
I have more respect for u now after saying "five freaking factories... nice alliteration"
gregormech 3 years ago
Love this build.
SCWarkos 3 years ago
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jaksplitter 3 years ago
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lol @ coinciding
so gay
clo5ure 3 years ago
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Why start the video every time by saying who won the last game? Why add unnecessary spoiler?
NotThat3 3 years ago
I would think it's your fault if you choose to watch the subsequent games without watching the first set and the results are spoiled.
Kojikabuto87 3 years ago 7
Hwasin has Daniel Negraneau's card-reading skills
EatxCowxPie 3 years ago
Awesome build, and awesome call on the gg!
Robotman42 3 years ago
Hero just needed some dark swarms..
livingkoan242 3 years ago
not enough time
undeadxazn 3 years ago
wouldn't transitioning into tier 3 cost too much time and minerals that Hero didn't have?
Krnballerzzz 3 years ago 5
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Terran is such faggotry.
spaceorbison 3 years ago
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I've always hated terran also. Whenever i play a terran i end up wanting to puch a baby in the face. Jesus christ they're so annoying.
XxSconeManxX 3 years ago
That joke is only funny when Maddox tells it.
pianomikey0 3 years ago
5...4...3...2...1--GG!!!!!
TerranFan11111 3 years ago 5
5..4...3...2...1... GGG!
MistahDoran 3 years ago 4
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2:40 fail sound is fail.
porab0la 3 years ago
hero >> zero
UndeadTheta 3 years ago
I love mass goliaths.
So sexy.
PremusRed 3 years ago
so True. =D
sjaksmf1 3 years ago
nice countdown. haha
quachyq 3 years ago 3
Nice game.. good commentary.
ZERO - NOT HERO!
Doso777 3 years ago
Let's see if Hwasin tries a different build this time. Medic marines didn't work too well for him last game.
Theldiot 3 years ago