I believe it is classified as a Jackson rhodes model but it is a kevin bond signature....
It has selected components that kevin bond from superjoint ritual selected such as the wood, neck and pickup configuration as well as the pentagram inlays. The y put all of those into the Jackson rhodes or rhodes V shape.
Great preamp, but quite bad eq. You need to take more treble out, and put more mids in. It's just sounding very fizzy and thin here, and I know it can sound better. Your riffs I thought were genius. Very 80's metal.
i am getting almost the exact setup, i have an engl savage 120, im getting rid of it in favor of the e570 /rt2 and the rm4 with all jtm,sl,plexi, and the blackface for clean,e ven though i love the engl cleans. i was gonna kut kt88 for the engl in the rt2, and el34 on the other side for the rm4? just not the rocktron expression thing u got, i dont need that. what do you think. how does the rt-2 compare vs the engl savge power amp section. i thing engl gets its tone from preamp.
It sounds awful. If you have the money to spend in all that gear, why do you record using the camera's mic? use a damn sm-57 connected to you f*cking pc!!! is so difficult to do a proper recording?
Apparently. Have you seen that guy who was "demoing" the Satch dist? He had 2 huge double stacks and it sounded like shit and he thought it was the pedal. Flipping the pad switch and not hearing the difference (because he had nothing in front of it!!!!) I wish I could record and post. I deal too much with my primary tone line.
Here's a bit of secret most rig fanatics already know... Sonic Maximizers aren't meant for guitar. They're meant for pa's.
In my opinion, when used on guitars, they just make it thin, digital sounding. Everyone I've known who used it used it for the "apparent" increase of gain/treble (basically harshness to my ears)
If you have to ask you don't need one. Where do these guys get all the money.
I am giving up on YouTube, so many bad "demos" of good gear. A good player can make a piece of crap sound good, all these vids make really good gear sound bad. Doesn't anyone have a clue on how to EQ anything?
Anyone playing for less than 10 years is crazy spending 5-10K on a rig. A little Metal core through the smallest cheapest Fender Solid State sounds better than all this YouTube crap.
@CarvinTone I totally agree. I get sooo ticked off. Dudes have so much gear sitting in their bedrooms, never seeing a day gigging and really using the gear to it's potential. Some day... I'll have money... Thousands of dollars sitting in bedroom. Ps. this does sound horrible.
Amen brother. The ENGL is an amazing preamp for the bucks. A real gain monster. I plan on getting one with the Carvin dual 15 band EQ power amp. By the way the BBE is a good unit. I am not running my rack one right now as it was srot of enhancing some hiss from high gain. I recommend the Decimator noise reduction, simply the best invention of the last years so much not a crappy release gate.
@CarvinTone that comment is oh so true, ive always thought that i wouldnt go over the top with gear untill i got serious about my playing and could actually make it worth it, my gear seems to go up with my skill lol, not amazing at playing and i havent spend more than £400 on any amp yet. so average really haha.
i used to do vids with a shity cheap rig, and no mic, now i plug into the comp, sooo much clearer. \m/
I wish I had the equip to do vids. I really don't care much anymore. I play because I love it. I try to drop a comment or two about gear because there is so much bad commenting out there, sometimes I think guitarists are 90% retarded. My time is past, is it too much to ask for a little bit of sympathy...I am still using my modifed Carvin V3 half stack, really sounds amazing. I am not sure I will be able to leave it. I just want a new rack setup for kicks.
@CarvinTone Let people buy what they want to with their money. If a good player can make a piece of crap sound good, and a bad player can make amazing gear sound bad, what the fuck are you watching these vids for. Seriously, you've already determined that tone is in the player so quit your bitching.
a pre amp is only the inputs and the knobs and ect it has no amplifier. you have to buy a poweramp or end amp to get sound out of it this way you can combine diffrent amps together
No. The preamp is the intial amplification on the signal and the gain. It has no power ability to drive speakers, the preamp signal feeds the power amp the conditioned signal to drive the speakers. A preamp is not a floor pedal box. Without a power amp it is useless and wasted. The ENGL stuff is really great. When you go rack mount gear you separate the amp and preamp which allows you to mix and match an infinite possibility of tones. The ENGL has a stereo loop as well.
@Mathcorey its what ur basic sound come's from and ur power amp is what drive's that sound and boost it and both can have separate over drive ... when tube's are heated up if they are tubed..kk
what about EL34's in a dual rectifier 3 channel? think it will work better all the way around? it does say "works best with EL34's" on the back of the head anyway. I always wondered.
I prefer the Tung Sol EL34Bs. It's what Marshalls use and I prefer the gain structure. The El34Bs have larger glass tubes as well. Not sure it that helps but they sound really great clean through gain.
in response to the guys talking about 6L6 vs El34.
I like both, but in different situations EL43 or E43L are not the best choice for extreme heavy, or downtuned at all, if you have one guitarist playing with 6L6 and the other playing E34L, the 6L6 amp will crush the E34L in bass response and over all thickness and over bear the E43L.
If your playing Rock or old school metal thrash, the E34L are great, i still prefer 6L6 all around.
Bass response and thickness has nothing to do with cutting.
Cutting is a midrange signal, that shines through the mix...
And my Uberschall has EL34's and it has as much bass response and thickness as my Powerball, which is massssive. Not to mention it handles huge drop tunings perfect as well as the ENGL SE EL34, ENGL Invader, and Hughes and Ketner's Duotone, as well as their Triamp...
So, no...
Overall the voicing and encoding of the amp will determine it's sound.
The Powerball may easily be biased to accomodate EL34 tubes. Only the immediate resistor anterior to the bias adjustment might need to be replaced.
Also, a 5150 with EL34 will still cut through way more than a Powerball with EL34. I know this because I have tried it. Cutting through is about voicing, whether you call it midrange or whatever. A 5150 will eat any ENGL in a mix. Try it!
I originally wanted an Engl SE E670, but since I'm already using rack gear anyway, and have 2 units free, I think this would be just as good, especially when it comes to space.
All I'd need is another 2U rack for the poweramp, and I'd be set. Any recommendations for a poweramp to match up with this preamp?
hey i got a question, for instance say i get this preamp, do i have to get the matching/same name brand power amp or can i match it with a diff. one/brand? how does that work?
is that some kind of joke? EL34s are notorious for breaking up sooner and having more pronounced mids than 6L6s, hence their rep for having the "British roar." 6L6s are more prominent in the low and high end.
DUDE! NO! el34s are fucking excellent for metal, they are tighter and give an awesome chunk. My experience with 6L6 is that they are best used with solo/lead shit and slow heavy riffs (ex;5150). 6L6 do have a nice body but im not huge fan when it comes to speed picking and fast riffage. Check out the ENGL invader and prepare to blow your load, sounds like a marshall super lead on red bull and crack.
shit and i dont wanna cuss 6L6 cuz i play my 5150 all the time, but trust me dude go try and dial in ur own tone on an amp running el34s, u will shit.
I guess it's just preference and mixing around stuff to get the tone you want. I'd stick with the same company if possible. Engl was made for Engl just like Mesa was made for Mesa. I noticed when I mixed amps and preamps they never sounded as good as they do with their original components. My first mistake was using a Marshall power amp with a Rocktron preamp. Many other examples but that was by far the worst.
I prefer using 6L6 tubes in the RT/250 with this preamp. The RT/250 is a bad ass amp for the price and being able to use EL34's and 6L6's. Although if you try the Engl 6L6, EL34, or 5881 tube power amps you will notice a major difference in your tone, with a fucked up price to match. Worth it? Most definitely. Also the speaker cabs you use also alters your preamp sounds.
why the fuck do people always say dont judge me by playing??? u hav all that expenisive equipment. u must be really good at guitar to buy all that shit. its not like some beginner is gonna go out and by all that. hell most beginning guitarist hardly know what any of that stuff is or do.
dude u play good and it may be the camera's speaker that makes the sound hav a scatchy type of noise but that sounds like a bitchin tone u got there
well it sounds pretty good. I've got better results though with Peavey Revalver because Revalvers lets you use an actually tube power amp simulations into the cab sims. It's sounds pretty good!
It actually makes the sound. With no preamp, and just the guitar signal running through a power amp and out a cab, it'd be completely clean. Preamps do stuff to that clean signal.
I can't speak from experience about the difference between the 3 models, I can only guess.... I would think the 530 model is equivalent to the clean/crunch channels of the 570/580 models. The 570/580 models have more distortion, saturation and gain overall. I think the main differences between the 570 vs 580 are more flexibility in the 580 model as far as programming goes but the same tones.
the 580 is actually supposed to sound like the 670 head and the Powerball at the least. I don't think the tones are 'the same' because the tubes are not 'the same' at least that's what I understand
hehe naw, the engl 530 has the gain and voicing to cover ANY genre of metal flawlessly...the main difference is raw features (channels, knobs, etc) and the obvious midi capability
Oh nice. I definately prefer your tones with the KT88's, which is good for me. EL34 would probably sound great for the crunch channel though for vintage stuff.
Not without a power amplifier. The preamp and power amp are sold separately. If you already have a head with an effects loop, you can try putting the preamp in the return of the effects loop and play the head on a clean channel.
I am still learning how to use this so the bright switches may or may not have any effect. When I use lead 1 and 2 I did notice a difference in the tone. The e570 and the RM4 are both excellent preamps, but I have to give the engl the higher score for better note clarity and raw agressiveness. The RM4 is excellent and extremely flexable and you can buy different modules to make different tones but I always seem to gravatate to my engl.
nice rig man, how you set the preamp volume and master volume for better sounding?
alexhighgain 1 year ago
not being a dick here but the next thing this kid needs to buy is a tuner.
tiredoftypical 1 year ago
Wow was that a horribly timed version of KsE Rose of Sharyn, makes my ears hurt to hear the rhythm that off.
mdragoonx 1 year ago 2
Rose of sharyn :D
n00d3l5 1 year ago
Rose of Sharyn wins. Lol
ChrisTheShreddist 1 year ago
Oh my... that preamp makes me Jizz in my Pants
cov99 1 year ago
jackson rr??
lertxunbermeo 1 year ago
@lertxunbermeo
I believe it is classified as a Jackson rhodes model but it is a kevin bond signature....
It has selected components that kevin bond from superjoint ritual selected such as the wood, neck and pickup configuration as well as the pentagram inlays. The y put all of those into the Jackson rhodes or rhodes V shape.
todddeye 1 year ago
@todddeye short correction: rhodes means a piano by fender, rhoads means randy or his guitar. anywas, ENGL ftw
givemeajackson 8 months ago
It really doesn't sound very good for it's price.. it sounds just like a valveking to me, if not worse.
DANKandBLUES 1 year ago
@DANKandBLUES I should also add that it may just be the mic, but idk..
DANKandBLUES 1 year ago
great !!!! awesome sound !!
noizlessproduction 1 year ago
Great preamp, but quite bad eq. You need to take more treble out, and put more mids in. It's just sounding very fizzy and thin here, and I know it can sound better. Your riffs I thought were genius. Very 80's metal.
deathblackthrashing 1 year ago
dude what are your lead 1 settings?
blackseeds666 1 year ago
i am getting almost the exact setup, i have an engl savage 120, im getting rid of it in favor of the e570 /rt2 and the rm4 with all jtm,sl,plexi, and the blackface for clean,e ven though i love the engl cleans. i was gonna kut kt88 for the engl in the rt2, and el34 on the other side for the rm4? just not the rocktron expression thing u got, i dont need that. what do you think. how does the rt-2 compare vs the engl savge power amp section. i thing engl gets its tone from preamp.
EMGlespaulMESA 1 year ago
fail.
d3tach3d 2 years ago
It sounds awful. If you have the money to spend in all that gear, why do you record using the camera's mic? use a damn sm-57 connected to you f*cking pc!!! is so difficult to do a proper recording?
crguti 2 years ago 2
Apparently. Have you seen that guy who was "demoing" the Satch dist? He had 2 huge double stacks and it sounded like shit and he thought it was the pedal. Flipping the pad switch and not hearing the difference (because he had nothing in front of it!!!!) I wish I could record and post. I deal too much with my primary tone line.
CarvinTone 2 years ago
I think this guy should invest in a BBE Sonic Maximizer. What Y'ALL think?
TheVesselofWar 2 years ago
Here's a bit of secret most rig fanatics already know... Sonic Maximizers aren't meant for guitar. They're meant for pa's.
In my opinion, when used on guitars, they just make it thin, digital sounding. Everyone I've known who used it used it for the "apparent" increase of gain/treble (basically harshness to my ears)
bringthemead 2 years ago
If you have to ask you don't need one. Where do these guys get all the money.
I am giving up on YouTube, so many bad "demos" of good gear. A good player can make a piece of crap sound good, all these vids make really good gear sound bad. Doesn't anyone have a clue on how to EQ anything?
Anyone playing for less than 10 years is crazy spending 5-10K on a rig. A little Metal core through the smallest cheapest Fender Solid State sounds better than all this YouTube crap.
CarvinTone 2 years ago 16
@CarvinTone I totally agree. I get sooo ticked off. Dudes have so much gear sitting in their bedrooms, never seeing a day gigging and really using the gear to it's potential. Some day... I'll have money... Thousands of dollars sitting in bedroom. Ps. this does sound horrible.
audibleE 2 years ago
Amen brother. The ENGL is an amazing preamp for the bucks. A real gain monster. I plan on getting one with the Carvin dual 15 band EQ power amp. By the way the BBE is a good unit. I am not running my rack one right now as it was srot of enhancing some hiss from high gain. I recommend the Decimator noise reduction, simply the best invention of the last years so much not a crappy release gate.
CarvinTone 2 years ago
@CarvinTone that comment is oh so true, ive always thought that i wouldnt go over the top with gear untill i got serious about my playing and could actually make it worth it, my gear seems to go up with my skill lol, not amazing at playing and i havent spend more than £400 on any amp yet. so average really haha.
i used to do vids with a shity cheap rig, and no mic, now i plug into the comp, sooo much clearer. \m/
deanml1986 2 years ago
I wish I had the equip to do vids. I really don't care much anymore. I play because I love it. I try to drop a comment or two about gear because there is so much bad commenting out there, sometimes I think guitarists are 90% retarded. My time is past, is it too much to ask for a little bit of sympathy...I am still using my modifed Carvin V3 half stack, really sounds amazing. I am not sure I will be able to leave it. I just want a new rack setup for kicks.
CarvinTone 2 years ago
@CarvinTone Let people buy what they want to with their money. If a good player can make a piece of crap sound good, and a bad player can make amazing gear sound bad, what the fuck are you watching these vids for. Seriously, you've already determined that tone is in the player so quit your bitching.
Neurot1ka 11 months ago
Love the ukelele on top
ecapainkiller 2 years ago 2
What exactly is a 'pre-amp'?
Somebody told me that he'd never pay xx amount for a pre-amp, and I don't know what the difference is.
Let me know,
Thanks.
Mathcorey 2 years ago
a pre amp is only the inputs and the knobs and ect it has no amplifier. you have to buy a poweramp or end amp to get sound out of it this way you can combine diffrent amps together
UchihaDark38 2 years ago
So, it's basically a head?
Mathcorey 2 years ago
yes its an head without an amplifier ;)
but still need an end amp.
i exaplain - a head is equal to a pre amp + an end amp
you can go for the engl e670 head search it up
UchihaDark38 2 years ago
No. The preamp is the intial amplification on the signal and the gain. It has no power ability to drive speakers, the preamp signal feeds the power amp the conditioned signal to drive the speakers. A preamp is not a floor pedal box. Without a power amp it is useless and wasted. The ENGL stuff is really great. When you go rack mount gear you separate the amp and preamp which allows you to mix and match an infinite possibility of tones. The ENGL has a stereo loop as well.
CarvinTone 2 years ago
@Mathcorey its what ur basic sound come's from and ur power amp is what drive's that sound and boost it and both can have separate over drive ... when tube's are heated up if they are tubed..kk
vampreen12356 2 years ago
what about EL34's in a dual rectifier 3 channel? think it will work better all the way around? it does say "works best with EL34's" on the back of the head anyway. I always wondered.
B2Rockin 2 years ago
I prefer the Tung Sol EL34Bs. It's what Marshalls use and I prefer the gain structure. The El34Bs have larger glass tubes as well. Not sure it that helps but they sound really great clean through gain.
CarvinTone 2 years ago
in response to the guys talking about 6L6 vs El34.
I like both, but in different situations EL43 or E43L are not the best choice for extreme heavy, or downtuned at all, if you have one guitarist playing with 6L6 and the other playing E34L, the 6L6 amp will crush the E34L in bass response and over all thickness and over bear the E43L.
If your playing Rock or old school metal thrash, the E34L are great, i still prefer 6L6 all around.
chickenbeek 2 years ago
EL34's cut through the mix and will overpower 6L6's.
I prefer the 6L6's natural sound over EL34's, but they don't cut through.
Have an ENGL Powerball and Bogner Uberschall and tune to Drop B and the Uberschall cuts through and crushes the PB, even though I run the PB louder
JordanPemberton 2 years ago
That has less to do with power tubes and much more to do with voicing. The Powerball never cuts through, regardless of what tubes are in it.
BrianSCole 2 years ago
Powerball's only take 6L6GC's...
They can cut through the mix, you just have to dial them in right...
So, never, is wrong, because I have in fact done it, many times...
JordanPemberton 2 years ago
Bass response and thickness has nothing to do with cutting.
Cutting is a midrange signal, that shines through the mix...
And my Uberschall has EL34's and it has as much bass response and thickness as my Powerball, which is massssive. Not to mention it handles huge drop tunings perfect as well as the ENGL SE EL34, ENGL Invader, and Hughes and Ketner's Duotone, as well as their Triamp...
So, no...
Overall the voicing and encoding of the amp will determine it's sound.
But typically the
JordanPemberton 2 years ago
The Powerball may easily be biased to accomodate EL34 tubes. Only the immediate resistor anterior to the bias adjustment might need to be replaced.
Also, a 5150 with EL34 will still cut through way more than a Powerball with EL34. I know this because I have tried it. Cutting through is about voicing, whether you call it midrange or whatever. A 5150 will eat any ENGL in a mix. Try it!
BrianSCole 2 years ago
great set :))) 5* good choices!
dbarbiegirl 2 years ago
can you run this pre directly into some cab simulation or impulse cabinet without using poweramp>speaker cabinet>sm57?
How would that sound?
AvyScottandFlower 2 years ago
I originally wanted an Engl SE E670, but since I'm already using rack gear anyway, and have 2 units free, I think this would be just as good, especially when it comes to space.
All I'd need is another 2U rack for the poweramp, and I'd be set. Any recommendations for a poweramp to match up with this preamp?
Greensmurf 2 years ago
kt88's work in that?
BlueBarrier782 2 years ago
YOU PLAY WELL
CREWDOG289 2 years ago
The kse part of rose of sharyn was wrong,but it's a good video...nice sound and nice preamp :D
Nicholasnadi 2 years ago
hey i got a question, for instance say i get this preamp, do i have to get the matching/same name brand power amp or can i match it with a diff. one/brand? how does that work?
Scornedbydeth 2 years ago
el34 are not so good for metal in my opinion...6L6 are more full of mids and without scratching sound like this
azraelxx 2 years ago
is that some kind of joke? EL34s are notorious for breaking up sooner and having more pronounced mids than 6L6s, hence their rep for having the "British roar." 6L6s are more prominent in the low and high end.
mojiggity 2 years ago
Yeah, I've always found 6L6's to break up and get a hell of a lot of low end.
J3sst44 2 years ago
Well he's def wrong about the mids part but they do soften the sound for a warmer, fuller tone in my opinion.
BlueBarrier782 2 years ago
DUDE! NO! el34s are fucking excellent for metal, they are tighter and give an awesome chunk. My experience with 6L6 is that they are best used with solo/lead shit and slow heavy riffs (ex;5150). 6L6 do have a nice body but im not huge fan when it comes to speed picking and fast riffage. Check out the ENGL invader and prepare to blow your load, sounds like a marshall super lead on red bull and crack.
dude420face 2 years ago
shit and i dont wanna cuss 6L6 cuz i play my 5150 all the time, but trust me dude go try and dial in ur own tone on an amp running el34s, u will shit.
dude420face 2 years ago
great demo! Where is this E530 made in?
symphonicmind87 2 years ago
ALL ENGL PRODUCTS MADE IN GERMANY.
No outsourcing.
No corner-cutting.
No bullshit.
best amp company hands down.
lordpoopstain 2 years ago 33
thank you so much!
symphonicmind87 2 years ago
any time.
lordpoopstain 2 years ago
@lordpoopstain
YES & THIS WILL BE SO FOREVER;
beautifull rack with randall modules !
MYTUBEISAPUSSY 10 months ago
What is that part of your rack that has modules?
ty
1akez1 2 years ago
My other video has a demonstration of the Randall modules, not this one it is for the engl pre amp.
todddeye 2 years ago
Not as good as the triaxis
Gyro911 2 years ago
next time please tune your guitar..
Naizabeth 2 years ago
Great tones & good playing
taztherocker 2 years ago 2
I guess it's just preference and mixing around stuff to get the tone you want. I'd stick with the same company if possible. Engl was made for Engl just like Mesa was made for Mesa. I noticed when I mixed amps and preamps they never sounded as good as they do with their original components. My first mistake was using a Marshall power amp with a Rocktron preamp. Many other examples but that was by far the worst.
ssdankx 3 years ago
I prefer using 6L6 tubes in the RT/250 with this preamp. The RT/250 is a bad ass amp for the price and being able to use EL34's and 6L6's. Although if you try the Engl 6L6, EL34, or 5881 tube power amps you will notice a major difference in your tone, with a fucked up price to match. Worth it? Most definitely. Also the speaker cabs you use also alters your preamp sounds.
ssdankx 3 years ago
If your preamp has a noise suppressor turn it on
XotopX 3 years ago
a tuner would be a nice addition to your multi-thousand-dollar rack setup. then it wouldnt kill our ears when we hear you play
Shogun777 3 years ago
How do you find the RT2/50 compare to the VHT 2/50/2? Any idea?
binsou 3 years ago
I would like to know that myself... I have not heard the vht but I have heard great feedback about it..
todddeye 3 years ago
why the fuck do people always say dont judge me by playing??? u hav all that expenisive equipment. u must be really good at guitar to buy all that shit. its not like some beginner is gonna go out and by all that. hell most beginning guitarist hardly know what any of that stuff is or do.
dude u play good and it may be the camera's speaker that makes the sound hav a scatchy type of noise but that sounds like a bitchin tone u got there
UnderDeceptionMetal 3 years ago 5
why does everyone with ENGL's cover rose of sharyn lol
theperfectcell6 3 years ago 3
lol thats true :D
Magister528 3 years ago
Lol true =D
RaNzOkUkEn 3 years ago
Because it`s a great tune and ENGL`s sound fits sooo well to it.
drvicisko 3 years ago
I wonder if I could use the randall Rm4 as a Preamp for Guitar Rig 3. Help me out Someone.
Timzsk8 3 years ago
I run my ENGL e530 into a usb interface and use Guitar Rig for Cab modeling and effects.
glaurung26 3 years ago
How is it?
Timzsk8 3 years ago
well it sounds pretty good. I've got better results though with Peavey Revalver because Revalvers lets you use an actually tube power amp simulations into the cab sims. It's sounds pretty good!
glaurung26 3 years ago
very good amp, but imo a very bad cover of rose of sharyn
MidnightEbony47 3 years ago
i want that engl tight punchy bass sound whats a good preamp of theirs preferably something i can afford haha.
manzu2 3 years ago
well what can you afford, you can try the engl 530
bmxfrestyle5152 3 years ago
Which one do you prefer? e570 or the rm4?
And why?
Zlobisha 3 years ago
I prefer the engl e570, the tone is simply more aggressive.
todddeye 3 years ago
what does a preamp actually do?
tiddlywinks98712 3 years ago
It actually makes the sound. With no preamp, and just the guitar signal running through a power amp and out a cab, it'd be completely clean. Preamps do stuff to that clean signal.
RSRop0 3 years ago
could u use a distortion pedal to get a distorted tone. would that work like running a distortion pedal through the clean channel of an amp
SexyLeprechaun28 3 years ago
which one has more gain :P ?
r4v3nboy 3 years ago
That is a tough call, they both have more gain than you need.
todddeye 3 years ago
you rule, the other guy with an e570 sucks! He's the warnerve, a steve vai gay wannabe! Congrats! Excellent stuff!!
leandro27942 3 years ago
Thanks!
todddeye 3 years ago
What would you say the difference(s) are between the E570 and the 580 and/or the 530
(besides the price tag, that is)
I'm amazed ur the only guy with a 570 in ALL of the YouTube vids!! (evry1 else has 530s)
Also, wouldn't a 950 power amp be a better fit for the 570? (that's what the ENGL guys say, at least)
AvyScottandFlower 3 years ago
e580 for sale
mike5881 3 years ago
wow! how much r you asking for it? where in the US do you live?
You can send me a private message or something if you want
AvyScottandFlower 3 years ago
Sorry... not for sale.
todddeye 3 years ago
I can't speak from experience about the difference between the 3 models, I can only guess.... I would think the 530 model is equivalent to the clean/crunch channels of the 570/580 models. The 570/580 models have more distortion, saturation and gain overall. I think the main differences between the 570 vs 580 are more flexibility in the 580 model as far as programming goes but the same tones.
todddeye 3 years ago
the 580 is actually supposed to sound like the 670 head and the Powerball at the least. I don't think the tones are 'the same' because the tubes are not 'the same' at least that's what I understand
AvyScottandFlower 3 years ago
hehe naw, the engl 530 has the gain and voicing to cover ANY genre of metal flawlessly...the main difference is raw features (channels, knobs, etc) and the obvious midi capability
boblong101 3 years ago
You can really hear the tightness of the EL34s.
BodomBeachTerr0r 3 years ago
that's one sweet tone you got there man. Nicely played too.
tinkernator 3 years ago
fuckin sweet man how much would you sell that shit for?
bigballz1122 3 years ago
why does everyone insist on playing Rose of Sharyn on these amp demo vids??!!!
nice tone by the way
bradpittsego 3 years ago 2
you play many Bullet for my valentine Riffs i can hear some things there man :)
looks pretty cool man, nice style and playing to! Stay metal dude
ditbenikdan 3 years ago
awesome tone
do u know if the engl 530 sounds similar 2 this preamp?
GiveSatanYourSoul 3 years ago
i don't think so. this is the preamp section of the special edition head, it's pretty different. but it has the overall ENGL sound i think.
fredmachine 3 years ago
As stated below, I am still learning how to use this thing.....
Thanks for the comments on playing and tone. The RM4 sounds close but not as good as the engl. Every note seems to ring out.
todddeye 3 years ago
does anynone knows the name of the song or to which song the riff from 1:46 to 2:12 belongs to?
GuitarHolger 3 years ago
It's "Rose of Sharyn" by Killswitch Engage.
Fun song.
CenturyStanding681 3 years ago
thank you :)
GuitarHolger 3 years ago
Nice playing and very big sound , sharp and accurate .
141R918 3 years ago
Which power tubes are you using for this? The EL34 or the KT88?
I was thinking of getting that preamp with the VHT 2/90/2 w/ KT88's.
CenturyStanding681 3 years ago
I am using both, when the red light is in the upper position on the rt 2/50 amp those are KT88 tubes, when they are in the lower they are the el34's
todddeye 3 years ago
Oh nice. I definately prefer your tones with the KT88's, which is good for me. EL34 would probably sound great for the crunch channel though for vintage stuff.
CenturyStanding681 3 years ago
so can you just buy a rackmount preamp and plug it in to a speaker cab, or how does it work
Crabtree2480 3 years ago
Not without a power amplifier. The preamp and power amp are sold separately. If you already have a head with an effects loop, you can try putting the preamp in the return of the effects loop and play the head on a clean channel.
todddeye 3 years ago
I am still learning how to use this so the bright switches may or may not have any effect. When I use lead 1 and 2 I did notice a difference in the tone. The e570 and the RM4 are both excellent preamps, but I have to give the engl the higher score for better note clarity and raw agressiveness. The RM4 is excellent and extremely flexable and you can buy different modules to make different tones but I always seem to gravatate to my engl.
todddeye 3 years ago
channel 2 without efx sounds BIG . what cab are you using ?
dondertochop 3 years ago
thanks, Mesa Boogie rectifier 4x12 cabinet.
todddeye 3 years ago