I know that some people wish to document what these scumbags are doing but, to escalate the situation like the idiot with the camera is just asking for trouble.
hmm soldiers with beanies? i grew up near a base in mexico, nd i never saw anyone so scrony even in the army like the guy at 4:03. mexico has a very very strict exam where you cant even be flat footed and a height of minimum 5'4". as for the jacket my friend offered to sell me a similar 1 for $50. its just strange how they react to they guy filming, but the guy with the flag hat whants to interpret that the want to shoot him, they never said it...strange on both side, could be drug cartel elite
why doesn't this guy spend his time helping the homeless or building a house for a family in need you know something productive for are country, instead of instigating...
Mexico should renew the deal with los narcos..no deaths,drugs or violence in mexico (only usa) and the government wont bother them...like the good old days before calderon! P.S thoes men were not mexican solders! your lucky your still alive!
If you actually do some reserch about what the cartels do to "blend" into the regular population you would know that they are not actual military , its only 2 trucks and just because they carry asault rifles or machine guns does not mean that they are military , they will clone any military,naval or federal organisation to do what they do . You are very lucky they din't just shoot you on the spot , true military men have G3 rifles , M16's and AR15's and not the rusty rifles they have there .
Most cops get smoked... alot do cause they are good. So asking a polite question is fair game. Killers don't respect borders. They were making sure you weren't a spy. He said "reporter" in spanish. Lets all smoke weed and spread the love, stress and anger leads to a shorter life span.
"Mexico doesn't even have such a bullshit term, murder is called murder."
The Spanish word for Collateral Damage is "daños colaterales" and is often referred to Mexican military killing innocents in their own war on drugs.
As for your videos, Im not sure how a military declaration of war in a foreign nation relates to 3 Mexican military shooting at a camera man from 60 feet away and ground level. Are you claiming an all of Mexico’s wars, they have only killed military personnel?
" The military killing innocents has happened only once that I know of in the past 10 years "
How many wars has Mexico been involved in those 10 years?
"Anyway when civilians do get hurt the Mexican media has never made use of that bullshit euphemism and they just plain say that innocent people were caught in the crossfire."
Again, thats called Colateral Damage, or "daños colaterales" and is used in the Mexican Media as much as the US... Ya, satalite dishes are great...
"In what Mexican media outlet have you heard that?"
Funny you should ask that as the story last night on El Universal on the rising death toll of innocent civilians from Mexican military actually used the term 2 times. Guess you not only found out that Mexico has words for the term, but that they actually use it as well....
"Do you have a link? It sounds interesting... because as I told you..."
I would assume the link would be on El Universal TVs site. As I had already told you, Ive heard it used hundreds of times in the last 20 years on most Mexican News outlets.
"I have also seen flying spaghetti monsters for the past 20 years."
That I dont doubt. You claim your family made 45,000 a year, but were so poor u couldnt move from a area that had kids with guns in their lockers and street wars. What school was this? And off 45,000 a year, or almost $3000 a month in income, you couldn't get a Uhaul and move? Why? I know families that live off half that and make it just fine...
"There are little things called, money, job, school, expenses that need to be taken into account when your entire home only earns $45,000 a year."
Maybe it might be a bit easier if your family had only the average 2 kids? And if they did, then your really full of shit. What did your family do with $3000 a month in income? How much could rent me in the ghetto? Car payments? please dont tell me u were 1 of those poor bastards who had a nice ride, but apperently too poor to move....
"The point of the 3 videos I showed you were in response to your statement: "With the exception of civil nations like the US who teach us how to shoot warning shots to detour confrontation, and never across a national border..."
Not sure what border you seen in any of your videos, but its called "Decleration of war" and in every war in the world, there are civilian casulties. Have you ever been in battle?
" In my life, it has been more dangerous for me living in the United States than in Mexico believe it or not. In high school kids would even have guns in their lockers despite the token metal detectors."
Seems maybe you should have found a better neighborhood. Not sure how in this day and age any kid can have a gun in a locker in the US. Seems very far fetched...
"This is always the mentality of those that do not comprehend that it's not as easy as just moving for those who have severely limited resources."
In 32 of our US states, help for moving has been provided by social services for over 40 years. What do you say to people who have moved out of some of the worst areas in our nation, with the same resources you have at your disposal (In the US)
"And yes, back in the early 90's my dad was making a measly 45-46,000 a year for our family of 4. Time to wake up to reality."
Really? In the early 90s your family was making 3 times the poverty level income and you think you had it bad? I would tell you that you are the 1 who needs to have a reality check, but Im sure you have no idea what Im refering to..
"You are the one that is completely full of shit here. You think you can justify all the bullshit just with your lame ass excuse of: "that's not an excuse"?"
Whats not an excuse if someone who makes 3 times the poverty income in the US and telling me you cant move from a city whos students carry guns in their lockers? Was this less than 10 years ago for you, and what school did you attend? Where did your parents income go? Hell I bought a house and went to college on less of an income...
" When you live for yourself $45,000 a year is big money. You did not have 2 kids, a wife, rent payments, car maintenance, gas, water, food bills and ?"
I was 22, livinh in my first owned home with a payment of $1100 a month and supporting my wife and first born son at the time. I payed for everything just as any 22 year old would do living on his own.
"then have to send money to another country to your mother as well as support your mother in law did you"
on 45,000 a year I could have easily rented a home and payed for my mother in laws care. How much money does it take to live in mexico? My travels have shown me its quite cheap. I started rasing my family, buying a home, and going to college on less than 25,000 a year in the 90s. With double that, I would have loved that. PS: A uhaul costs about $.50 a mile in 1990...
" Now tell me how "easy" it would be to live there without understanding their currency"
A more relivant comparison would be me moving to Canada. I live on the border, and have spend many years inside and out of Canada, because I was a legal traveler. I know the money, because they are the closest nation to me, just as the US is to you in Mexico. I would never live in a nation I had no knowledge of, thats just simple logic...
"Canada? You got to be kidding... Canada is almost culturally identical to the U.S"
Across the Washington border french is the main language. Mexico is the same as the US, diffrent money, new language. Russia is much the same as the US. New money, new language.
"Practically you are saying moving from Mexico to the U.S. is no different than moving from New York to Alabama"
Which is very much culturally diffrent. But same language and money and economics. Not the same in Canada...
"say you stupid idiots that lost your jobs deserve it cause your ignorance of the causes for this recession "is not an excuse."
Did I not already tell you what caused the recession? How is the reason of failed bank loans an ignorant excuse to you? The dumb shits who purchased housed on 8% interest and knew they couldn't pay them back, are the 1 to blame. Did bankers hold guns to their heads? Were they forced to buy the homes from the "Bank Cartels"? Wait, thats drug cartels...
"First of all I did not know that "welfare" and "social services" existed (much less what the hell they were) until I got to high school. My parents also never knew anything about food stamps or welfare or any of that shit that we are supposedly leeching from"
How long were you in the US? Are you an illegal alien here now? You claimed you lived here and found it a much safer live in Mexico, so how long were you here, and are you still?
"It took my family 8 years to claim our citizenship because my grandfather was U.S. citizens thus my mother and then me. We had to jump through countless political hoops and spend thousands of dollars just to "fix a simple matter." "
The average time it takes to become a citizen is around 5 years. Im not uderstanding the use of the word "Thus" after you refer to your grandfather being a citizen. Thus implies you and your mother were given citizenship because of your grandfather?
" Now when I was over 18 and wanted to get proof of my citizenship to Mexico after not living there for years"
Because in America, you can only be a citizen of 1 nation. Seems to me this comment with your other 8 years comment is the reason it took so long to become a citizen to this nation. If your still a citizen of Mexico, you are not a citizen of the US. Might want to read the form you signed to receive your SS card...
"The situation is slightly less clear for someone who becomes a US citizen via naturalization and still wishes to take advantage of his old citizenship. People who go through US naturalization are required to state under oath that they are renouncing their old citizenship, and conduct inconsistent with this pledge could theoretically lead to loss of one's US status."
"Children of Citizens are automatically citizens..."
So is that what you are? Your mother was born here, and you were born here. So how do you provide a mexican birth certificate when renewing your status in Mexico as you already told me?
" Now when I was over 18 and wanted to get proof of my citizenship to Mexico after not living there for years and never doing military service or voting guess how many hoops I had to jump through? Just Traffic to get to the Mexican Consulate where they only asked for my birth certificate"
If you were born here, how do you have a mexican birth certificate?
"forget it... I don't feel like explaining how logic works. So you either understood what I said or you didn't."
Logicly when you claim that an assumption is not a fact, you would also claim YOUR assumptions are as irrelivant as anothers. You claim they are cartel, I claim they are not. Neither 1 of us knows for sure, so we are both assuming, correct?
"Yes we were both assuming because nothing is known here without a doubt or with reliable/verifiable evidence. There is no evidence to even support the claim that these fools were shot at; and also this very same lack of evidence is not proof to the contrary either (Lack of proof is not a proof)."
Is that not what I had just said? Theres no evidence that these are cartel either. The only evidence is the military uniforms...
"only fired at the ground a few feet away... what is the guarantee that it was the Army at all and not a group of drug runners"
What seems absurd is how a cartel, who apperently to mexico are the baddest guys on the planet, would shoot at the groud a few feet from a guy across the border. Seems like a lot of restrait for someone who cares little for the US or Mexicos laws...
" They cannot stand a frontal war against Mexican forces even though they threaten, entire towns and cities and bribe, threaten or kill Mayors, Judges, and Police commanders."
Then why can Mexico not control them then? Seems to me if a cartel comes to America, and creates the problems they have in Mexico, they stand little chance on our soil. And you claim Mexican military is able to eliminate them on a ground war? Why haven't they?
" They haven't for the same reason the U.S. hasn't. "
The US has, for nearly 60 years controled the criminal orginizations on our land. Sure, there are criminals, but they dont run our nation like in Mexico.
"These criminals are so embedded in society it's nearly impossible to uproot them without sending entire administrations to jail"
" I guess that is why in Chicago the Feds and Local police are having secret meetings"
How secret can they be? Kind of my point here. Its called controling the violence, something Mexico cannot apperently do...
"I recommend you study a little on the criminal history of the U.S.."
The US has a great criminal history. If you had noticed though, anything even remotly close to a cartel has been brought down by the government. Thats why its history...
" What about the Cartel that caused this oil spill?"
WTF? What does a british companyies oil spill have to do with a cartel?
"Or the ones that caused the market crash?"
Dont think you want to go there, as the people who started the market crash were people banks gave loans to who knew they couldn't pay them back. As california how many illegals bought houses...
" A cartel is defines as "alliances of enterprises."
If you dont know the diffrence between a drug cartel and a business such as BP, maybe its not hard to understand how you get confussed by the facts sometimes. Isn't Mexico a cartel by your definition?
" Before all this talk about Mexican Cartels the word "Cartel"
Beings as your not old enough to know how the word was used for the last 30+ years...
" Now the reason the Zetas can take your life and BP can't is because BP is "Legal" so it gets into the "Legality club"
You still find the only diffrence between a drug cartel and BP is a "Legality club"? You really defend the term illegal alot. Im sure you dont call illegal aliens by that name, but immigrants huh? You quote the words legal and illegal as if you have no understanding of the words, which is the real reason I would suspect you not going into the military...
"It's obvious that I can't explain in any more detail here because of the character limit."
Did I not explain the logistics of the terms in far less than 500 words? Legal is allowed in the criminal system, illegal is not. Illegal gets you in jail, legal does not. Killing humans and using them to smuggle drugs across a border is illegal, blowing up an oil rig by accident is not...
"You did not explain anything... all you did was affirm a premise. I can do that in 3 words: "Illegal is Illegal."
You cant define a word with the same word. Illegal is not allowed in civil society, and is punished. Legal abides by laws and regulations, and is punished for not obeying those laws.
Illegal :prohibited by law or by official or accepted rules...
"and it has to behave or else they will get shunned and made "illegal"
And risk going to jail for illegal activities? You do understand how the legal system works right? You break the law, you go to prison. Thats how the word illegal is justified. BP spilling oil for the first time in its 100 years of operation is a tragedy, and yes, dangerously close to wreckless on the lack of safety checks and regulation oversights. But hardly even close to killing people and human trading... really?
"Mexico has been a drug trading/smuggling corridor for over 100 years, why is it that only now we have a war about it?"
Maybe only now is when you know about it. Mexico has had drug wars with America for nearly 90 years. The 80s were great for the war on drugs here in the US. The Mexican border was the main transport for Coke and Weed. We had over 50,000 troops on the border for nearly 2 weeks crushing everything that tried to move across.
"it's all about semantics and word plays and the fact that this backwards society sees one crook as better..."
Because thats how you see it. Killing people for drugs will never compair to losing money in a corp society. Capitolism has its ups and downs, but nothing compaired to the downs of a drug cartel. The fact you cant see that is what makes you ignorant in my opinion. When BP tells me to buy only their gas at gunpoint, you may have a point. Until then, Ill take my chances with BP.
"Before all this talk about Mexican Cartels the word "Cartel" was very commonly used to refer to circles of corrupt enterprises"
In the almost 40 years ive been alive, I have never heard the word cartel used as a reference to the US government, unless your talking to American haters like yourself who have wild theories about things they have no proof of...
"You never watched Lou Dobbs of Glen Beck have you? If you havent that's good, but my point is that those 2 clowns have at least have used the word "cartel" freely before when referring to Corporates and their government puppets sleeping together"
Not sure I get ur point. You call them clowns, yet use their terminology to refer to businesses in the US?
"My point is that they are using that word even if they are clowns on TV."
Still seems funny you use a station you perceive as less than credable for an example of how the US uses the word cartel for our US businesses. Is the drug cartels in Mexico called anything but a cartel and their "Names"?
"But when the U.S. does the same exact shit it's heralded as "controlling the violence."
Its because your talking about a nation, not a city. The problems in Chicago have to do with kids with guns, not military uniforms, not AKs, but street battles that the military in the US can stomp out in a moments notice. The talks are to stop the violence, with no violence. When Mexico has that kind of power over the cartels, then words might work.
"WE ARE STONGER THEN THE US FUK AMERICA CARTEL DE JUAREZ"
And you wonder why Americans are so called "Racist" again Mexicans...
Happen to notice your listed as being from the US. Are you saying Beaners are stronger than you, as oyu live in the US, collect a welfare check in the US, buy rotten mexican picked fruit from the us with US food stamps... I take it that means you and every beaner here in the states is a pussy right?
"anyone can shoot utomattic weapons u dumb ignorant fuck... eighter way the hate your skin gringo"
And apperently the ignorant Mexican government can also allow cartels to run their nation, or else they would treat them like the US treats people who impersonalte an officer...
PS: You do know your a "Gringo" as well right, or is that part of your national history you dont admit anymore?
Just cuz some white boy with a stars and stripes cap claims shit don't mean its true. Who the fuck are these guys. You'd think they'd be running away if these guys shot at them once before. These morons should've minded their own business if they ain't gonna show any actual wrongdoing. Note to film maker, soldiers carry guns and do patrols dumbass.
Fortunately for those guys, there was not an armored helicopter with anxious troopers for pull the trigger just because at the distance, the camera looks like a weapon, just like happened in Irak or Afghanistan where twelve people were killed "by mistake"
These guys are idiots. There standing out there pointing their camera at armed soldiers. How are the soldiers supposed to know if its someone pointing a weapon at them.
LOLwhat a damn fuckin pussy why didnt he talk shit when the man was right infront of him he had to wait till they left haha fuckin pussy ass minutemen they aint shit haha i could make any minuteman wipe my ass with his face and suck his own dick while i fuck his mom there a bunch of ignorant pussys who dont have anything to do but blame there misery on other people go back to europe if you dont like it here you damn pricks and if you dont like it there well go to hell and get fucked by the devil
"fuckin pussy ass minutemen they aint shit haha i could make any minuteman wipe my ass with his face and suck his own dick while i fuck his mom there a bunch of ignorant pussys who dont have anything to do but blame there misery on other people go back to europe if you dont like it here..."
You realize this video has nothing to do with the minutemen right? Funny you tell them to go to Europe... Do you think only Europeans are minutemen?
@braahp360 no but they are all crying little bitches that dont fuckin wat to admit that they came from europe illegaly and dont wat to admit that they think that they are the biggest badest motherfuckers on this earth you along with them can suck my dick stupid dumbass im tired of all you dumbass "minutemen" the original minutemen i respect 100% im in the army myself but all you motherfuckin wantabe minutemen can go to the deepest pit in hell you racist pricks does that answer you question idiot
"no but they are all crying little bitches that dont fuckin wat to admit that they came from europe illegaly"
And what makes you think they came to this nation illegally? You dont think people immigrated to America legally? Pre 1900s US didnt have immigration laws, so what is illegal about it?
"dumbass "minutemen" the original minutemen i respect 100% im in the army myself but all you motherfuckin wantabe minutemen can go to the deepest pit in hell you racist pricks does that answer you question idiot "
I see, so you think if we support our nations laws, that makes us minutemen? What makes me racist? because I want everyone to be forced to obey the same laws I must? Why cant I just pay 2000 for a new ID, not pay taxes, but homes off fake identities. Why not me?
"oh get off your dildo and admit that your a fuckin racist you know that and i know that "
So because I think the laws that everyone, no matter what race, is legally obligated to obey are good, then I must be a racist? Why do you have such a problem with people just coming to this nation with Legal papers? Would you still stand by your ideals if it was Russians going to Mexico Illegally by the millions?
i dont stand for illegal immigration i stand for good morals if ICE is so good they should be goin after the drug dealers and the cartels not the people hard at work at meat packing plants they never hurt anyone
"i dont stand for illegal immigration i stand for good morals if ICE is so good they should be goin after the drug dealers and the cartels not the people hard at work at meat packing plants they never hurt anyone"
Obviously you do stand for illegal immigration, as your comment is an endorsement for it. ICE stands for 'Immigration and Customs Enforcement' not for 'Drug Enforcement Agency' ICEs job is to deport illegal immigrants, hard working or not. They are here Illegally...
"not the people hard at work at meat packing plants they never hurt anyone"
How much do they pay that Illegal Immigrant for working so hard at that meat packing plant? Beings they are illegal, Im sure its very low, low enough for the guy paying them, to overlook the LEGAL citizen who they would be forced to pay at least Min Wage... Whos getting hurt? The Father with 3 kids who is legal to this nation, because he didnt get the job, white or Brown...
and you havint been there you have no idea what these people have to suffer the problem is man americans dont know who to blame there miserys on so they blame it on illegal immigration its so much simpler to degrade others instead of working hard to get ahead in life which these "criminals" know how to do very well and im sorry but neither you or ICE will stop them from putting food on the table and you get mad because they dont resort to stealing or any real criminal acts they rather work hard
"and you havint been there you have no idea what these people have to suffer the problem is man americans dont know who to blame there miserys on"
Im sure life is very tough for the poor in Mexico. But do we look the other way when a poor American citizen steals groceries to feed his family? Is that not a crime?
"you get mad because they dont resort to stealing or any real criminal acts they rather work hard"
Are you speaking for all Illegals? Has no illegal EVER broken another law?
nobody gets payed below minimum wages legal or not, i have worked around illegals,, and they make minimum , but you are right,, it pisses me off that i should be making more but cause of illegals they bring down the wages
" nobody gets payed below minimum wages legal or not, i have worked around illegals"
people all over the country get screwed out of pay, many for less than minimum wage. There are numerous documentaries on Illegals being paid by the day instead of by the hour. Most field laborers are paid WAY below min wage. Around my town, its tulip time, and you can ask any of those pickers how much they make, and usually its equal to around 3 bucks an hour. Us kids used to make Min wage picking the fields
if thats the case then first of all the need to tie there balls in a bunch and admit that they are ruining lives because what people like dont understand is living conditions in mexico are horrible and they have no option but to come here and the government says its so hard yet they bring a bunch of somalian refuges as well as from other countries like nothing and you know very well that race has a lot to do with it becasue never in my life have i seen an ICE agent as a white man for documents
"if thats the case then first of all the need to tie there balls in a bunch and admit that they are ruining lives because what people like dont understand is living conditions in mexico are horrible and they have no option but to come here"
Are Mexicans not strong enough for a civil war? Step 1 would be to take back their nation instead of coming to the US illegally and hiding from ICE and telling Americans their racist for understanding the laws of their nation...
And how come Us citizens can go to Mexico, buy a home for way less than market in America, live and work and make lives for themselves and their family, and Mexican citizens "Have no choice" but to come to America?
You mention "real crimes" in your post. What crimes are you ok with breaking?
"you know very well that race has a lot to do with it becasue never in my life have i seen an ICE agent as a white man for documents"
Do you hang out in many Russian or Middle European sweatshops?
fuck the employers then,, blame those fuckers for hiring and backstabing the rest of us. i have friends on both sides of the border and know the dilemmas for the average american,,, cheap prices at the grocery , but want to kick out people that work in the fields picking cabbages. its a tough choice bro.
then the system is corrupt dont blame illegals blame the fucking system for not being corrupt. me personaly would not hire an illegal over anyone no matter what race or even if they cant speak english.
"then the system is corrupt dont blame illegals blame the fucking system for not being corrupt"
If you mean blame the system for being corrupt, I understand, and agree. But you still must blame the illegals for giving the opportunity to have cheap labor. Both are to blame, but understand that most the people who hire illegals have no idea they are hiring them, as there is no citizenship verification for employers yet.
@braahp360 However, this is not to say an American has the right to defend himself. Especially a Border Patrol agent. That would be a human rights abuse.
Besides, they weren't shooting, they were celebrating Juan's birthday. And there was an important drug load coming through.
"However, this is not to say an American has the right to defend himself. Especially a Border Patrol agent."
Every American has the right to defend themselves, especially a border agent.
"And there was an important drug load coming through."
I have no idea what your talking about, but considering you post something like this, and are a known illegal alien in this nation, it seems proper to point out how you refer to an important drug shipment. Could this be part of the problem?
@braahp360 everyones hireing illigals intentionaly they know there cheap and that they dont have to pay them min wage. thats why people hire illigals specificly. or thats how they do it up in ny anyways
"the government says its so hard yet they bring a bunch of somalian refuges as well as from other countries like nothing and"
When has the government EVER brought 20 million refugees from ANY nation? Look, 30 years ago, it was a rarity to see an Illegal immigrant in most of the US. And when you did, it didnt matter, because it was usually a single family in a small town just working. But today, theres 20 million, and thats just from the southern border. When should we say enough?
why doesnt the fucking welfare system do something about it and remove illegals from working and put them lazy asses on welfare back to work,, i bet many will refuse
Fucking white guy holding the camera is A little too comfortable... them guys will probly kill you dudes & take your stupid camera if they feel threatened & you better believe their easily affended i bet you feel real safe on the others side of the fence U fucking prick... Reality's Gonna Hit You HARD!!
Kind of like that little greasy Illegal Immigrant who posts videos on youtube about what he thinks are racists people against illegal immigration. I think his name was something like Naui or some shit... As he claims, "this is America, you can record anyone"...
Id would let the federal government stick a chip 3 feet long up my ass as long as it meant my family and all LEGAL citizens of this nation are protected from illegal criminals that steal SS numbers and identities... Russian or Mexican...
u dumd ass u lucky they didnt shot and ask question later no one would of notice ur asses were dead cause they probably would of buried ur bodys in that same land ur people took from us!!!!!
You might want to check Mexicos census. Only 30% of the nations population is Amerindians, the native peoples of that land. Mestizo hold 62% of the nations population.
By statistics, the General statement of "Mexicans are descendants of the Spanish invaders" holds true more than "The vast majority is from native origins"
Simply put, Most are no more native to the land than white guy with 4% native in America.
He didnt say he was filming, it was the reason he brought the camera the next time he was there.
Maybe watch the news more, you'll most likely see the broadcasts of the current border wars going on now. With the documented cases of troops crossing the borders illegally, it should be an easy find...
Where do you think the "made up" SS number comes from when an illegal alien buys 1 for $2000 on the streets? That number is some ones identity, a legal citizen of this nation. As a legal citizen, who would ever loan their identity out to someone they dont know?
You dont think Mexicans want American tax money? You do know that money is money, and as you said, the reason they are here is for money right?
If you dont like America, your more than welcome to leave it, I dont care what race you are.
Are you claiming that American filmers video Mexico from US soil only to kill those they video? Please show me where that has ever happened in American History...
Im wondering where you stand on armed US soldiers on the Border with shoot to kill orders for those trying to trespass illegally on US soil?
They are in Mexican territory.. they can shoot and piss in there.. It is Mexico duh! When they cross that little fense then you can call that 'Invasion'.. I speak spanish, the soldiers just came nicely to ask Why were you guys recording them.. and after that they asked if you were American Press..
Maybe you should have actually watched the English speaking man, he is explaining his previous encounter with the Mexican military when they shot at him. Not knowing if his video is being transmitted or not, I would assume the men on the other side of the fence would have to be polite and not shot at the filmers...
Mexicans jumping over a National border illegally and stealing US citizen tax id numbers are provoking Americans, Americans with a constitution allowing us to carry guns to protect ourselves from foreign or domestic invaders. How smart is it to provoke a nation known throughout the world as the most brutal and violent war hungry peoples? At this point I'd say illegals are lucky they are still around...
Is that why they are bankrupt? Maybe Mexico should float the bill for bailing out California, hell, they can have the State back, just means a big wall right though the middle of California, as the northern part was always owned by the Oregon Territory....
If we give Mexico back their land (After reimbursement of course) will the illegals get the fuck out of our country? Not likely, their new land would be a new Mexican shithole in a matter of months.
So what your saying is you cant get Mexico out of the cartel run slum land it now is unless you have the bankrupt state of California, New Mexico and Texas back?
As for the gold you think your untitled to, since you sold the land, what was recovered was owned by US citizens, as they are the ones who paid Mexicans for it. Even though it would have been Spanish gold, not Mexican as Spain was the owners of Mexico at the time....
That was fuckin stupid! Get your ass killed or butt-raped!
PiusXXVI 2 weeks ago
I know that some people wish to document what these scumbags are doing but, to escalate the situation like the idiot with the camera is just asking for trouble.
54m4rV1ll4 4 months ago
hmm soldiers with beanies? i grew up near a base in mexico, nd i never saw anyone so scrony even in the army like the guy at 4:03. mexico has a very very strict exam where you cant even be flat footed and a height of minimum 5'4". as for the jacket my friend offered to sell me a similar 1 for $50. its just strange how they react to they guy filming, but the guy with the flag hat whants to interpret that the want to shoot him, they never said it...strange on both side, could be drug cartel elite
XtremeRally 8 months ago
en primera no son policias pendejo!!! es el ejercito y otra no seas dramatico mamon!!! primero nos inveden usted antes que nosotros
sergiojairgtz 8 months ago
Fucking Idiots. They make it so dramatic
Netzahualcoyotl2008 9 months ago
why doesn't this guy spend his time helping the homeless or building a house for a family in need you know something productive for are country, instead of instigating...
TheOpital 10 months ago
@TheOpital What's Your problem w/letting a citizen doing what He wants instead of doing what You want?This should have been put on mainstream t.v.
calman1951 2 weeks ago
Not all Mexicans are drugrunners or gangbangers; a few of them are bullfighters.
billyshearsnot 11 months ago
Mexico should renew the deal with los narcos..no deaths,drugs or violence in mexico (only usa) and the government wont bother them...like the good old days before calderon! P.S thoes men were not mexican solders! your lucky your still alive!
jesus8419 1 year ago
When was this taken?
These guys aren't military, the uniform isn't correct, these guys are gangsters. The film-makers are lucky they didn't get fucking kidnapped.
ThisIsClown 1 year ago
If you actually do some reserch about what the cartels do to "blend" into the regular population you would know that they are not actual military , its only 2 trucks and just because they carry asault rifles or machine guns does not mean that they are military , they will clone any military,naval or federal organisation to do what they do . You are very lucky they din't just shoot you on the spot , true military men have G3 rifles , M16's and AR15's and not the rusty rifles they have there .
texasmetaldetector 1 year ago
those guys are cartels, they get dress up is military and they got the big old rusty guns you are lucky they didnt shoot you
Lguerreroable 1 year ago
if i were the soldier, those two suckers would be my dogs meals, and make soup with their hearts and give it to my cats.
99cacahuate 1 year ago
Notice how every one is wearing jackets like is very cold, but their in the desert. It's hot in the desert. ?_?
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese I'm guessing you've never been in the South West in the middle of Winter. It can get VERY cold, and it even snows in the high desert.
galaxylakers 1 year ago
Most cops get smoked... alot do cause they are good. So asking a polite question is fair game. Killers don't respect borders. They were making sure you weren't a spy. He said "reporter" in spanish. Lets all smoke weed and spread the love, stress and anger leads to a shorter life span.
12GaugeLosAngeles 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
In the title, it says this:
"The filmer tells his story and encounters them again while on camera."
The story he tells is how these same groups shot at him on a previous encounter, and of course, while it is being filmed, they do not...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Mexican soldiers don't shoot you unless they intend to kill you (This is how all military men are trained in the world"
With the exception of civil nations like the US who teach us how to shoot warning shots to detour confrontation, and never across a national border...
" what is the guarantee that it was the Army at all?"
Seems like a logical way to avoid responcibility.
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Mexico doesn't even have such a bullshit term, murder is called murder."
The Spanish word for Collateral Damage is "daños colaterales" and is often referred to Mexican military killing innocents in their own war on drugs.
As for your videos, Im not sure how a military declaration of war in a foreign nation relates to 3 Mexican military shooting at a camera man from 60 feet away and ground level. Are you claiming an all of Mexico’s wars, they have only killed military personnel?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" The military killing innocents has happened only once that I know of in the past 10 years "
How many wars has Mexico been involved in those 10 years?
"Anyway when civilians do get hurt the Mexican media has never made use of that bullshit euphemism and they just plain say that innocent people were caught in the crossfire."
Again, thats called Colateral Damage, or "daños colaterales" and is used in the Mexican Media as much as the US... Ya, satalite dishes are great...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"In what Mexican media outlet have you heard that?"
Funny you should ask that as the story last night on El Universal on the rising death toll of innocent civilians from Mexican military actually used the term 2 times. Guess you not only found out that Mexico has words for the term, but that they actually use it as well....
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Do you have a link? It sounds interesting... because as I told you..."
I would assume the link would be on El Universal TVs site. As I had already told you, Ive heard it used hundreds of times in the last 20 years on most Mexican News outlets.
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"I have also seen flying spaghetti monsters for the past 20 years."
That I dont doubt. You claim your family made 45,000 a year, but were so poor u couldnt move from a area that had kids with guns in their lockers and street wars. What school was this? And off 45,000 a year, or almost $3000 a month in income, you couldn't get a Uhaul and move? Why? I know families that live off half that and make it just fine...
braahp360 1 year ago
"There are little things called, money, job, school, expenses that need to be taken into account when your entire home only earns $45,000 a year."
Maybe it might be a bit easier if your family had only the average 2 kids? And if they did, then your really full of shit. What did your family do with $3000 a month in income? How much could rent me in the ghetto? Car payments? please dont tell me u were 1 of those poor bastards who had a nice ride, but apperently too poor to move....
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"The point of the 3 videos I showed you were in response to your statement: "With the exception of civil nations like the US who teach us how to shoot warning shots to detour confrontation, and never across a national border..."
Not sure what border you seen in any of your videos, but its called "Decleration of war" and in every war in the world, there are civilian casulties. Have you ever been in battle?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" In my life, it has been more dangerous for me living in the United States than in Mexico believe it or not. In high school kids would even have guns in their lockers despite the token metal detectors."
Seems maybe you should have found a better neighborhood. Not sure how in this day and age any kid can have a gun in a locker in the US. Seems very far fetched...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"This is always the mentality of those that do not comprehend that it's not as easy as just moving for those who have severely limited resources."
In 32 of our US states, help for moving has been provided by social services for over 40 years. What do you say to people who have moved out of some of the worst areas in our nation, with the same resources you have at your disposal (In the US)
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"First of all I did not know that "welfare" and "social services" existed (much less what the hell they were) until I got to high school"
Ignorance is no excuse for the poor living in shitty conditions and using it as an excuse.
"And you think we could just pack up and move in to a nice home and get out of the ghetto?"
Yes, as I said, ignorance is no excuse...
"entire home only earns $45,000 a year."
Now I know ur full of shit... u do realize the average income in the US is right?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"And yes, back in the early 90's my dad was making a measly 45-46,000 a year for our family of 4. Time to wake up to reality."
Really? In the early 90s your family was making 3 times the poverty level income and you think you had it bad? I would tell you that you are the 1 who needs to have a reality check, but Im sure you have no idea what Im refering to..
braahp360 1 year ago
"You are the one that is completely full of shit here. You think you can justify all the bullshit just with your lame ass excuse of: "that's not an excuse"?"
Whats not an excuse if someone who makes 3 times the poverty income in the US and telling me you cant move from a city whos students carry guns in their lockers? Was this less than 10 years ago for you, and what school did you attend? Where did your parents income go? Hell I bought a house and went to college on less of an income...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" When you live for yourself $45,000 a year is big money. You did not have 2 kids, a wife, rent payments, car maintenance, gas, water, food bills and ?"
I was 22, livinh in my first owned home with a payment of $1100 a month and supporting my wife and first born son at the time. I payed for everything just as any 22 year old would do living on his own.
braahp360 1 year ago
"then have to send money to another country to your mother as well as support your mother in law did you"
on 45,000 a year I could have easily rented a home and payed for my mother in laws care. How much money does it take to live in mexico? My travels have shown me its quite cheap. I started rasing my family, buying a home, and going to college on less than 25,000 a year in the 90s. With double that, I would have loved that. PS: A uhaul costs about $.50 a mile in 1990...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" Now tell me how "easy" it would be to live there without understanding their currency"
A more relivant comparison would be me moving to Canada. I live on the border, and have spend many years inside and out of Canada, because I was a legal traveler. I know the money, because they are the closest nation to me, just as the US is to you in Mexico. I would never live in a nation I had no knowledge of, thats just simple logic...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Canada? You got to be kidding... Canada is almost culturally identical to the U.S"
Across the Washington border french is the main language. Mexico is the same as the US, diffrent money, new language. Russia is much the same as the US. New money, new language.
"Practically you are saying moving from Mexico to the U.S. is no different than moving from New York to Alabama"
Which is very much culturally diffrent. But same language and money and economics. Not the same in Canada...
braahp360 1 year ago
"say you stupid idiots that lost your jobs deserve it cause your ignorance of the causes for this recession "is not an excuse."
Did I not already tell you what caused the recession? How is the reason of failed bank loans an ignorant excuse to you? The dumb shits who purchased housed on 8% interest and knew they couldn't pay them back, are the 1 to blame. Did bankers hold guns to their heads? Were they forced to buy the homes from the "Bank Cartels"? Wait, thats drug cartels...
braahp360 1 year ago
"First of all I did not know that "welfare" and "social services" existed (much less what the hell they were) until I got to high school. My parents also never knew anything about food stamps or welfare or any of that shit that we are supposedly leeching from"
How long were you in the US? Are you an illegal alien here now? You claimed you lived here and found it a much safer live in Mexico, so how long were you here, and are you still?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"It took my family 8 years to claim our citizenship because my grandfather was U.S. citizens thus my mother and then me. We had to jump through countless political hoops and spend thousands of dollars just to "fix a simple matter." "
The average time it takes to become a citizen is around 5 years. Im not uderstanding the use of the word "Thus" after you refer to your grandfather being a citizen. Thus implies you and your mother were given citizenship because of your grandfather?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" Now when I was over 18 and wanted to get proof of my citizenship to Mexico after not living there for years"
Because in America, you can only be a citizen of 1 nation. Seems to me this comment with your other 8 years comment is the reason it took so long to become a citizen to this nation. If your still a citizen of Mexico, you are not a citizen of the US. Might want to read the form you signed to receive your SS card...
braahp360 1 year ago
"The situation is slightly less clear for someone who becomes a US citizen via naturalization and still wishes to take advantage of his old citizenship. People who go through US naturalization are required to state under oath that they are renouncing their old citizenship, and conduct inconsistent with this pledge could theoretically lead to loss of one's US status."
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" I didn't, neither did my mom because both of us are American citizens because of my grandfather."
Please clarify this. How did your grandfathers status effect your citizenship unless your mother was born here, and you were?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Children of Citizens are automatically citizens..."
So is that what you are? Your mother was born here, and you were born here. So how do you provide a mexican birth certificate when renewing your status in Mexico as you already told me?
braahp360 1 year ago
" Now when I was over 18 and wanted to get proof of my citizenship to Mexico after not living there for years and never doing military service or voting guess how many hoops I had to jump through? Just Traffic to get to the Mexican Consulate where they only asked for my birth certificate"
If you were born here, how do you have a mexican birth certificate?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Also you have yet to prove that the ones doing the shooting were real soldiers and not impersonators or even that the shooting happened at all"
Yet you have openly assumed they are cartel, within the same evidence I have at my disposal... this video...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Assumptions are not proofs. I assumed in order to state further holes in the claim."
So your assumptions are somehow proof to you, but others are not?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"forget it... I don't feel like explaining how logic works. So you either understood what I said or you didn't."
Logicly when you claim that an assumption is not a fact, you would also claim YOUR assumptions are as irrelivant as anothers. You claim they are cartel, I claim they are not. Neither 1 of us knows for sure, so we are both assuming, correct?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Yes we were both assuming because nothing is known here without a doubt or with reliable/verifiable evidence. There is no evidence to even support the claim that these fools were shot at; and also this very same lack of evidence is not proof to the contrary either (Lack of proof is not a proof)."
Is that not what I had just said? Theres no evidence that these are cartel either. The only evidence is the military uniforms...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"only fired at the ground a few feet away... what is the guarantee that it was the Army at all and not a group of drug runners"
What seems absurd is how a cartel, who apperently to mexico are the baddest guys on the planet, would shoot at the groud a few feet from a guy across the border. Seems like a lot of restrait for someone who cares little for the US or Mexicos laws...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" They cannot stand a frontal war against Mexican forces even though they threaten, entire towns and cities and bribe, threaten or kill Mayors, Judges, and Police commanders."
Then why can Mexico not control them then? Seems to me if a cartel comes to America, and creates the problems they have in Mexico, they stand little chance on our soil. And you claim Mexican military is able to eliminate them on a ground war? Why haven't they?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" They haven't for the same reason the U.S. hasn't. "
The US has, for nearly 60 years controled the criminal orginizations on our land. Sure, there are criminals, but they dont run our nation like in Mexico.
"These criminals are so embedded in society it's nearly impossible to uproot them without sending entire administrations to jail"
In America, we call that "Cleaning house"
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" I guess that is why in Chicago the Feds and Local police are having secret meetings"
How secret can they be? Kind of my point here. Its called controling the violence, something Mexico cannot apperently do...
"I recommend you study a little on the criminal history of the U.S.."
The US has a great criminal history. If you had noticed though, anything even remotly close to a cartel has been brought down by the government. Thats why its history...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" What about the Cartel that caused this oil spill?"
WTF? What does a british companyies oil spill have to do with a cartel?
"Or the ones that caused the market crash?"
Dont think you want to go there, as the people who started the market crash were people banks gave loans to who knew they couldn't pay them back. As california how many illegals bought houses...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" A cartel is defines as "alliances of enterprises."
If you dont know the diffrence between a drug cartel and a business such as BP, maybe its not hard to understand how you get confussed by the facts sometimes. Isn't Mexico a cartel by your definition?
" Before all this talk about Mexican Cartels the word "Cartel"
Beings as your not old enough to know how the word was used for the last 30+ years...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"So my age restricts me from reading what was being published 30, 40, 100 years ago??"
Depends on what your reading. If you stick to anti american publications, Im sure you will hear terms I never have...
"And there is really not much difference between a "legal" Cartel like BP and an "illegal" one like the Zetas"
With the exception that if you dont do what BP wants, you lose money, Zetas take your life and force with weapons.
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
" Now the reason the Zetas can take your life and BP can't is because BP is "Legal" so it gets into the "Legality club"
You still find the only diffrence between a drug cartel and BP is a "Legality club"? You really defend the term illegal alot. Im sure you dont call illegal aliens by that name, but immigrants huh? You quote the words legal and illegal as if you have no understanding of the words, which is the real reason I would suspect you not going into the military...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"It's obvious that I can't explain in any more detail here because of the character limit."
Did I not explain the logistics of the terms in far less than 500 words? Legal is allowed in the criminal system, illegal is not. Illegal gets you in jail, legal does not. Killing humans and using them to smuggle drugs across a border is illegal, blowing up an oil rig by accident is not...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"You did not explain anything... all you did was affirm a premise. I can do that in 3 words: "Illegal is Illegal."
You cant define a word with the same word. Illegal is not allowed in civil society, and is punished. Legal abides by laws and regulations, and is punished for not obeying those laws.
Illegal :prohibited by law or by official or accepted rules...
braahp360 1 year ago
"and it has to behave or else they will get shunned and made "illegal"
And risk going to jail for illegal activities? You do understand how the legal system works right? You break the law, you go to prison. Thats how the word illegal is justified. BP spilling oil for the first time in its 100 years of operation is a tragedy, and yes, dangerously close to wreckless on the lack of safety checks and regulation oversights. But hardly even close to killing people and human trading... really?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Mexico has been a drug trading/smuggling corridor for over 100 years, why is it that only now we have a war about it?"
Maybe only now is when you know about it. Mexico has had drug wars with America for nearly 90 years. The 80s were great for the war on drugs here in the US. The Mexican border was the main transport for Coke and Weed. We had over 50,000 troops on the border for nearly 2 weeks crushing everything that tried to move across.
braahp360 1 year ago
"it's all about semantics and word plays and the fact that this backwards society sees one crook as better..."
Because thats how you see it. Killing people for drugs will never compair to losing money in a corp society. Capitolism has its ups and downs, but nothing compaired to the downs of a drug cartel. The fact you cant see that is what makes you ignorant in my opinion. When BP tells me to buy only their gas at gunpoint, you may have a point. Until then, Ill take my chances with BP.
braahp360 1 year ago
"Before all this talk about Mexican Cartels the word "Cartel" was very commonly used to refer to circles of corrupt enterprises"
In the almost 40 years ive been alive, I have never heard the word cartel used as a reference to the US government, unless your talking to American haters like yourself who have wild theories about things they have no proof of...
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"You never watched Lou Dobbs of Glen Beck have you? If you havent that's good, but my point is that those 2 clowns have at least have used the word "cartel" freely before when referring to Corporates and their government puppets sleeping together"
Not sure I get ur point. You call them clowns, yet use their terminology to refer to businesses in the US?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"My point is that they are using that word even if they are clowns on TV."
Still seems funny you use a station you perceive as less than credable for an example of how the US uses the word cartel for our US businesses. Is the drug cartels in Mexico called anything but a cartel and their "Names"?
braahp360 1 year ago
"But when the U.S. does the same exact shit it's heralded as "controlling the violence."
Its because your talking about a nation, not a city. The problems in Chicago have to do with kids with guns, not military uniforms, not AKs, but street battles that the military in the US can stomp out in a moments notice. The talks are to stop the violence, with no violence. When Mexico has that kind of power over the cartels, then words might work.
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
These "dudes" are fucking Pussy. I might add that it is without indifference or insult to their wives or girlfriends genitalia.
kip151 1 year ago
MAN FUK THEM WHITE PEOPLE ALL ABOUT THAT BROWN WE ARE STONGER THEN THE US FUK AMERICA CARTEL DE JUAREZ
MrJOKER915 1 year ago
"WE ARE STONGER THEN THE US FUK AMERICA CARTEL DE JUAREZ"
And you wonder why Americans are so called "Racist" again Mexicans...
Happen to notice your listed as being from the US. Are you saying Beaners are stronger than you, as oyu live in the US, collect a welfare check in the US, buy rotten mexican picked fruit from the us with US food stamps... I take it that means you and every beaner here in the states is a pussy right?
braahp360 1 year ago
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 1 year ago
"Fucking americans don't understand that without Mexicans their country wouldn't be running. "
Yes, because American citizens haven't built this country at all, which is why illegals want to be here so bad... Moron.
braahp360 1 year ago
"anyone can shoot utomattic weapons u dumb ignorant fuck... eighter way the hate your skin gringo"
And apperently the ignorant Mexican government can also allow cartels to run their nation, or else they would treat them like the US treats people who impersonalte an officer...
PS: You do know your a "Gringo" as well right, or is that part of your national history you dont admit anymore?
braahp360 1 year ago
man up little bitch
BigFatPaulie1234 1 year ago
thats wat u fucken get i hope u get shot one day
TheX3surexo 1 year ago
Just cuz some white boy with a stars and stripes cap claims shit don't mean its true. Who the fuck are these guys. You'd think they'd be running away if these guys shot at them once before. These morons should've minded their own business if they ain't gonna show any actual wrongdoing. Note to film maker, soldiers carry guns and do patrols dumbass.
losbuzzards 1 year ago
Fortunately for those guys, there was not an armored helicopter with anxious troopers for pull the trigger just because at the distance, the camera looks like a weapon, just like happened in Irak or Afghanistan where twelve people were killed "by mistake"
laspomas70 1 year ago
ajjajaj america suck for person like you!!!
z15MN 1 year ago
These guys are idiots. There standing out there pointing their camera at armed soldiers. How are the soldiers supposed to know if its someone pointing a weapon at them.
JohnnyBoyCali 2 years ago
LOLwhat a damn fuckin pussy why didnt he talk shit when the man was right infront of him he had to wait till they left haha fuckin pussy ass minutemen they aint shit haha i could make any minuteman wipe my ass with his face and suck his own dick while i fuck his mom there a bunch of ignorant pussys who dont have anything to do but blame there misery on other people go back to europe if you dont like it here you damn pricks and if you dont like it there well go to hell and get fucked by the devil
franky4037 2 years ago
"fuckin pussy ass minutemen they aint shit haha i could make any minuteman wipe my ass with his face and suck his own dick while i fuck his mom there a bunch of ignorant pussys who dont have anything to do but blame there misery on other people go back to europe if you dont like it here..."
You realize this video has nothing to do with the minutemen right? Funny you tell them to go to Europe... Do you think only Europeans are minutemen?
braahp360 2 years ago
@braahp360 no but they are all crying little bitches that dont fuckin wat to admit that they came from europe illegaly and dont wat to admit that they think that they are the biggest badest motherfuckers on this earth you along with them can suck my dick stupid dumbass im tired of all you dumbass "minutemen" the original minutemen i respect 100% im in the army myself but all you motherfuckin wantabe minutemen can go to the deepest pit in hell you racist pricks does that answer you question idiot
franky4037 2 years ago
"no but they are all crying little bitches that dont fuckin wat to admit that they came from europe illegaly"
And what makes you think they came to this nation illegally? You dont think people immigrated to America legally? Pre 1900s US didnt have immigration laws, so what is illegal about it?
braahp360 2 years ago
"dumbass "minutemen" the original minutemen i respect 100% im in the army myself but all you motherfuckin wantabe minutemen can go to the deepest pit in hell you racist pricks does that answer you question idiot "
I see, so you think if we support our nations laws, that makes us minutemen? What makes me racist? because I want everyone to be forced to obey the same laws I must? Why cant I just pay 2000 for a new ID, not pay taxes, but homes off fake identities. Why not me?
braahp360 2 years ago
oh get off your dildo and admit that your a fuckin racist you know that and i know that
franky4037 2 years ago
"oh get off your dildo and admit that your a fuckin racist you know that and i know that "
So because I think the laws that everyone, no matter what race, is legally obligated to obey are good, then I must be a racist? Why do you have such a problem with people just coming to this nation with Legal papers? Would you still stand by your ideals if it was Russians going to Mexico Illegally by the millions?
braahp360 2 years ago
i dont stand for illegal immigration i stand for good morals if ICE is so good they should be goin after the drug dealers and the cartels not the people hard at work at meat packing plants they never hurt anyone
franky4037 2 years ago
"i dont stand for illegal immigration i stand for good morals if ICE is so good they should be goin after the drug dealers and the cartels not the people hard at work at meat packing plants they never hurt anyone"
Obviously you do stand for illegal immigration, as your comment is an endorsement for it. ICE stands for 'Immigration and Customs Enforcement' not for 'Drug Enforcement Agency' ICEs job is to deport illegal immigrants, hard working or not. They are here Illegally...
braahp360 2 years ago
"not the people hard at work at meat packing plants they never hurt anyone"
How much do they pay that Illegal Immigrant for working so hard at that meat packing plant? Beings they are illegal, Im sure its very low, low enough for the guy paying them, to overlook the LEGAL citizen who they would be forced to pay at least Min Wage... Whos getting hurt? The Father with 3 kids who is legal to this nation, because he didnt get the job, white or Brown...
braahp360 2 years ago
and you havint been there you have no idea what these people have to suffer the problem is man americans dont know who to blame there miserys on so they blame it on illegal immigration its so much simpler to degrade others instead of working hard to get ahead in life which these "criminals" know how to do very well and im sorry but neither you or ICE will stop them from putting food on the table and you get mad because they dont resort to stealing or any real criminal acts they rather work hard
franky4037 2 years ago
"and you havint been there you have no idea what these people have to suffer the problem is man americans dont know who to blame there miserys on"
Im sure life is very tough for the poor in Mexico. But do we look the other way when a poor American citizen steals groceries to feed his family? Is that not a crime?
"you get mad because they dont resort to stealing or any real criminal acts they rather work hard"
Are you speaking for all Illegals? Has no illegal EVER broken another law?
braahp360 2 years ago
nobody gets payed below minimum wages legal or not, i have worked around illegals,, and they make minimum , but you are right,, it pisses me off that i should be making more but cause of illegals they bring down the wages
nando90210 2 years ago
" nobody gets payed below minimum wages legal or not, i have worked around illegals"
people all over the country get screwed out of pay, many for less than minimum wage. There are numerous documentaries on Illegals being paid by the day instead of by the hour. Most field laborers are paid WAY below min wage. Around my town, its tulip time, and you can ask any of those pickers how much they make, and usually its equal to around 3 bucks an hour. Us kids used to make Min wage picking the fields
braahp360 2 years ago
if thats the case then first of all the need to tie there balls in a bunch and admit that they are ruining lives because what people like dont understand is living conditions in mexico are horrible and they have no option but to come here and the government says its so hard yet they bring a bunch of somalian refuges as well as from other countries like nothing and you know very well that race has a lot to do with it becasue never in my life have i seen an ICE agent as a white man for documents
franky4037 2 years ago
"if thats the case then first of all the need to tie there balls in a bunch and admit that they are ruining lives because what people like dont understand is living conditions in mexico are horrible and they have no option but to come here"
Are Mexicans not strong enough for a civil war? Step 1 would be to take back their nation instead of coming to the US illegally and hiding from ICE and telling Americans their racist for understanding the laws of their nation...
braahp360 2 years ago
And how come Us citizens can go to Mexico, buy a home for way less than market in America, live and work and make lives for themselves and their family, and Mexican citizens "Have no choice" but to come to America?
You mention "real crimes" in your post. What crimes are you ok with breaking?
"you know very well that race has a lot to do with it becasue never in my life have i seen an ICE agent as a white man for documents"
Do you hang out in many Russian or Middle European sweatshops?
braahp360 2 years ago
fuck the employers then,, blame those fuckers for hiring and backstabing the rest of us. i have friends on both sides of the border and know the dilemmas for the average american,,, cheap prices at the grocery , but want to kick out people that work in the fields picking cabbages. its a tough choice bro.
nando90210 2 years ago
" fuck the employers then,, blame those fuckers for hiring and backstabing the rest of us"
Most of those hiring Illegals are small companies who dont have any way of verifying a persons identity, much less their immigration status.
"cheap prices at the grocery , but want to kick out people that work in the fields picking cabbages. its a tough choice bro."
We pay more at the produce Isle today than when we had legal young adults picking the fields in the summer...
braahp360 2 years ago
then the system is corrupt dont blame illegals blame the fucking system for not being corrupt. me personaly would not hire an illegal over anyone no matter what race or even if they cant speak english.
nando90210 2 years ago
"then the system is corrupt dont blame illegals blame the fucking system for not being corrupt"
If you mean blame the system for being corrupt, I understand, and agree. But you still must blame the illegals for giving the opportunity to have cheap labor. Both are to blame, but understand that most the people who hire illegals have no idea they are hiring them, as there is no citizenship verification for employers yet.
braahp360 2 years ago
@braahp360 However, this is not to say an American has the right to defend himself. Especially a Border Patrol agent. That would be a human rights abuse.
Besides, they weren't shooting, they were celebrating Juan's birthday. And there was an important drug load coming through.
NauiBitchtl 1 year ago
"However, this is not to say an American has the right to defend himself. Especially a Border Patrol agent."
Every American has the right to defend themselves, especially a border agent.
"And there was an important drug load coming through."
I have no idea what your talking about, but considering you post something like this, and are a known illegal alien in this nation, it seems proper to point out how you refer to an important drug shipment. Could this be part of the problem?
braahp360 1 year ago
@braahp360 everyones hireing illigals intentionaly they know there cheap and that they dont have to pay them min wage. thats why people hire illigals specificly. or thats how they do it up in ny anyways
mac10guy 1 year ago
"the government says its so hard yet they bring a bunch of somalian refuges as well as from other countries like nothing and"
When has the government EVER brought 20 million refugees from ANY nation? Look, 30 years ago, it was a rarity to see an Illegal immigrant in most of the US. And when you did, it didnt matter, because it was usually a single family in a small town just working. But today, theres 20 million, and thats just from the southern border. When should we say enough?
braahp360 2 years ago
why doesnt the fucking welfare system do something about it and remove illegals from working and put them lazy asses on welfare back to work,, i bet many will refuse
nando90210 2 years ago
this stupid american "gringo" like toy soldier jajaja
danieltuzo 2 years ago
"this stupid american "gringo" like toy soldier jajaja"
Calling someone stupid while writing an incomplete sentence that makes no sense...
braahp360 2 years ago
Fucking white guy holding the camera is A little too comfortable... them guys will probly kill you dudes & take your stupid camera if they feel threatened & you better believe their easily affended i bet you feel real safe on the others side of the fence U fucking prick... Reality's Gonna Hit You HARD!!
iMSoHigh420ritenow 2 years ago
Kind of like that little greasy Illegal Immigrant who posts videos on youtube about what he thinks are racists people against illegal immigration. I think his name was something like Naui or some shit... As he claims, "this is America, you can record anyone"...
Cant wait for the new ID lookup tools...
braahp360 2 years ago
Mark of the beast
iMSoHigh420ritenow 2 years ago
In the wallet?
braahp360 2 years ago
Id would let the federal government stick a chip 3 feet long up my ass as long as it meant my family and all LEGAL citizens of this nation are protected from illegal criminals that steal SS numbers and identities... Russian or Mexican...
braahp360 2 years ago
PLEASE THAT doesnt even begin to compare with some asshole recording the ARMY on camera EVEN THO THEY said its strictly prohibited...
iMSoHigh420ritenow 2 years ago
"PLEASE THAT doesnt even begin to compare with some asshole recording the ARMY on camera EVEN THO THEY said its strictly prohibited..."
I bet... sucks when its on the other foot huh?
braahp360 2 years ago
lol Mexican border patrol is Obviously Much better then ours
iMSoHigh420ritenow 2 years ago
PINCHE GRINGO BABOSO LOL
mexicano310 2 years ago
@mexicano310
Du ore bea haskih "beaner"?
braahp360 2 years ago
u dumd ass u lucky they didnt shot and ask question later no one would of notice ur asses were dead cause they probably would of buried ur bodys in that same land ur people took from us!!!!!
crazieazteca 2 years ago
Funny how Mexico was paid for that land after they lost The war....
Did you forget your people (Spanish) took the land, with no payment, you call Mexico, from my people?
braahp360 2 years ago
their people? mexicans are not direct decedants of spaniards, some are, but the vast majority is from native origins.
qetuo1000 2 years ago
@qetuo1000
You might want to check Mexicos census. Only 30% of the nations population is Amerindians, the native peoples of that land. Mestizo hold 62% of the nations population.
By statistics, the General statement of "Mexicans are descendants of the Spanish invaders" holds true more than "The vast majority is from native origins"
Simply put, Most are no more native to the land than white guy with 4% native in America.
braahp360 2 years ago
He didnt say he was filming, it was the reason he brought the camera the next time he was there.
Maybe watch the news more, you'll most likely see the broadcasts of the current border wars going on now. With the documented cases of troops crossing the borders illegally, it should be an easy find...
braahp360 2 years ago
Where do you think the "made up" SS number comes from when an illegal alien buys 1 for $2000 on the streets? That number is some ones identity, a legal citizen of this nation. As a legal citizen, who would ever loan their identity out to someone they dont know?
You dont think Mexicans want American tax money? You do know that money is money, and as you said, the reason they are here is for money right?
If you dont like America, your more than welcome to leave it, I dont care what race you are.
braahp360 2 years ago
The soldiers only ask why filming, becouse many poeple take pictures or video, and them kill hem.
Soo they are in rights to ask why you are doing videos?
Soo next time be carefull wiht your fkn ass.
ElEscorpion31 2 years ago
@ElEscorpion31
Are you claiming that American filmers video Mexico from US soil only to kill those they video? Please show me where that has ever happened in American History...
Im wondering where you stand on armed US soldiers on the Border with shoot to kill orders for those trying to trespass illegally on US soil?
braahp360 2 years ago
They are in Mexican territory.. they can shoot and piss in there.. It is Mexico duh! When they cross that little fense then you can call that 'Invasion'.. I speak spanish, the soldiers just came nicely to ask Why were you guys recording them.. and after that they asked if you were American Press..
Js00312 2 years ago
Maybe you should have actually watched the English speaking man, he is explaining his previous encounter with the Mexican military when they shot at him. Not knowing if his video is being transmitted or not, I would assume the men on the other side of the fence would have to be polite and not shot at the filmers...
braahp360 2 years ago
you guys are just provoking the mexicans. You are lucky you are still around
GOOTENAGEN 2 years ago 2
Mexicans jumping over a National border illegally and stealing US citizen tax id numbers are provoking Americans, Americans with a constitution allowing us to carry guns to protect ourselves from foreign or domestic invaders. How smart is it to provoke a nation known throughout the world as the most brutal and violent war hungry peoples? At this point I'd say illegals are lucky they are still around...
braahp360 2 years ago
Texas and California is part of Mexico
kisameitachiakatsuki 2 years ago 2
Is that why they are bankrupt? Maybe Mexico should float the bill for bailing out California, hell, they can have the State back, just means a big wall right though the middle of California, as the northern part was always owned by the Oregon Territory....
If we give Mexico back their land (After reimbursement of course) will the illegals get the fuck out of our country? Not likely, their new land would be a new Mexican shithole in a matter of months.
braahp360 2 years ago
men just give us out land back and ull see we will be #1 even thou the US alread took out all of OUR GOLD MEXICAN GOLD out of California
kisameitachiakatsuki 2 years ago 2
So what your saying is you cant get Mexico out of the cartel run slum land it now is unless you have the bankrupt state of California, New Mexico and Texas back?
As for the gold you think your untitled to, since you sold the land, what was recovered was owned by US citizens, as they are the ones who paid Mexicans for it. Even though it would have been Spanish gold, not Mexican as Spain was the owners of Mexico at the time....
braahp360 2 years ago
You want to see some real action with your cameras. Just cross into Juarez the deadliest city in the world my friends.
TheMACC2009 2 years ago