Crash Course: Chapter 18 - Environmental Data (1 of 2) by Chris Martenson

[stocktradinginvestor]

innovation, ingenuity... It is the reason we will be okay. More people=more Einsteins, Edison's, Tesla's, etc. This world is only limited by our beliefs of what's possible and our ability to use our creativity to see what's not there. nanotechnology, mining the moon, intergalactic space travel. Some believe population control is the solution, but that is backwards, if you eliminate everyone on the earth but one , he will die and his personal cost to get energy is way higher than his need for it.

[sidework1]

what about weed? are we running out of weed too?

[sidework1]

well this whole series of videos make me feel better..

because now i dont have to work hard and think about how im goin to raise a family

and work harder for the rest of my life

b cuz guess what? WE ARE ALL GOIN TO DIE!

and EVEN BETTER we are all goin to KILL EACH OTHER

oh dont worry u guys..

im pretty sure JESUS GONNA FIGURE SOMTHING OUT

lolololol im gonna smoke weed and spend my money on whores until the apocalypse is here!

*TROLL FACE*

[maltodextrin1000]

So Chris you're telling me that the key to bettering my life is decreasing the population? Okay, I'll start right away.

[Standuble]

The only ways to solve this problem other than the intentional genocide of 99% of the human population is to either use a Stargate and go to other Earth worlds, travel to alternate universes and settle multiple Earth or travel back in time to Ancient Egypt and install 21st century society there.

As all of them are a bit pie in the sky I guess we're going to hell unless you'll be one of the < 1.5 billion survivors.

[aletoledo1]

depressing.

[TWSceptic]

@aletoledo1 Not really, I'm happy to learn the truth. The most depressing thing to me is listening to Obama's lies.

[paragshah2112]

his numbers are full of shit. even at the time of the video the reality was much much worse.

and now ... dont even think about it ...

[USAHavana]

Lets pray the SINGULARITY CAN SAVE US! LOL!!

[TheLycaeum]

You left the bio-sciences out of the picture, remember: We could breed genetically modified heavy-load super-donkeys and thus reduce the amount of donkeys needed.

[papawx3]

Up to this video, I have been with ya. Too much presented in this video is less than honest. There is NO shortage of high grade copper bodies. He takes one freakin mine and runs with it. Obviously, the miner is still profitable, or they would stop mining. Besides, copper is re-cycled. High quality coal is in abundance too. I'm calling BS on this vid. The others are on the money though, I do believe we are at peak oil.

[PowerOfTheMirror]

elements such as copper are not destroyed upon usage. they go into products which you can still find on the junk piles. i would be curious to know the cost of recycling compared to that of mining it from low grade ores.

[ikkinnikk]

I am so glad I found these videos.

[walter0bz]

technology & high quality of life can survive - the only question is for how many people, when you need so much land per person to create the same energy.

This is why the NWO are planning pre-emptive population reduction

[zonsb]

In 1994 two-thirds of the global population had never made or received a phone call. Today, half the farmers in china have cell phones in their pockets.

[zonsb]

When a specific exponential advancing technology begins to run out of steam the next generation technology is already beginning to advance.This maintains the exponential growth curve.The computer has undergone five such S curves. Mechanical, vacuum tube, transistor, silicon and most recent 3-dimensional silicon/quantum computing. Similar has occurred with communications. Postal mail, telegraph, telephone, Internet cellphones.

[juanleiden]

yes

now we can barely feed to all this people because of the oil

but we're running out of it, and the water is a problem too.

so, do u still think that there's no overpopulation and this is all quite sustentable? i think you're fucking blind or you're fucking retarded.

this will adjust just like prices, people will die till its enough, and rich people will became more and more isolated with the remain resources while outside there's a fucking anarchy

[airharm]

@juanleiden

You're wrong if you think rich people will sit inside their homes comfortably, with no workers (cops *tsk* *tsk*), the rich people will be completely criminalized, unless you're thinking they have their own private rich mansion in some isolated island somewhere with a huge stockpile of oil and food :O.

[juanleiden]

@airharm

yes

that will happen

little by little

[JuanVoyce]

1 gallon of gasoline = 196,000 lbs. of prehistoric phytoplankton

[TEHREALBOB]

This and chapter 17 were my favorite. I'm not usually a 100% big picture sort of guy, but when survival as a whole is the big picture, details become irrelevant.

[Chromatype]

So Chris...has anyone from the american government shown any interest in this video series yet?

1) Are you still under the radar?

2) Are they ignoring this because this country would enter a panic if they really understood where we are.

For me, The end of hip hop and pathetic exploitation of talentless pop stars won't arrive soon enough...one nice byproduct of the upcoming historical changes we have awaiting us.

[Chevyguy2003]

@Chromatype thanks for the silver linning...I'm goint to have trouble sleeping tonight.

[DaHool2]

It's scary to know that it's probable that unless miracle technological discoveries are made available for mass-implementation (e.g. cold fusion) in decades, quality of life will seriously deteriorate. On the other hand, and this might sound selfish, in case this happens I am glad to have lived at the peak of civilisation for some time during my life (in terms of technology and culture of course, not consumerism and economics). Anyway mr. Martenson, this is definately food for though AND action.

[enicao]

why do you put all your hope in wild dreams (cold fusion) that have nearly no chance to work, when we have nearly all the technology we need today: renewable energy and energy efficient techs?

[iecutiel]

maybe those very advanced zero energy technologies were known for thousands of years but kept in secret, maybe you and me are just ants in a lab, maybe we were all the time in the peak-almost-fucked-up because if you research history people with no political-economical power (the majority) were always fucked up always feeling the end of the world, all the time

[ccricers]

If we have hit the peak of civilization, future, less advanced societies might see this as the "age of wizards" or something like it.

Anyways, cold fusion is off the mark, it's regular hot fusion that people are researching. They're looking to make it yield energy returns. But since it's not expected to yield energy returns for decades it will be a very close call for our energy crisis

[Psychosmurf547]

I think our civilization will be called: Atlantis the Lost Empire.

[Knossos22]

@Psychosmurf547

Will civilization end up being nothing more than

"a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing" ?

Check out The Olduvai Theory and consider the dramatic up tick in the number of people seeking to use oil... (and coal and natural gas also)

How much inflation can we expect as an additional 3 Billion people seek to use fossil-hydrocarbons the way it has been used over the past decades?

The continued inflationary pressures will crash the global economy!

[NazTheGreat]

@Psychosmurf547 Maybe Disney Land? Since most people aren't in touch with reality.

[Frostlander]

My efforts are being put into solar.

[airharm]

@Frostlander

Solar energy can only be used for electricity though right?

[Frostlander]

@airharm With clever engineering it can be used for anything that uses heat.

[airharm]

@Frostlander

So with technology we can find a way to use solar energy as a substitute for gas energy or something? But then, don't we need to vamp up the amount of dishes and engine systems by heaps (2000x what it's at now) to make up for the amount of oil that gets imported to us over seas?

[Frostlander]

@airharm If the goal is to replace all our current energy consumption then, we would need to construct enough stations to replace that power. Yes it's a huge task which is why it's taking so long. A combination of energy consumption, technological development, and increased incentives could help to speed things along. I don't know exactly how many we'd need, but I know it is doable.

[airharm]

@Frostlander

Any idea what the speed of development of solar 'stations' is at the moment?

[Frostlander]

@airharm As fast as I can.

[juanleiden]

@Frostlander

Man, the companies doesn't think that way..

they are waiting for the oil to collapse big time, so the prices will go to the sky, and so their profits, that's how it will go.

I'm sure that they have already discovered an alternative, they try to maximize their oportunities, that's the undercovered pattern behind this system.

[Frostlander]

@juanleiden Your outlook is very bleak.

[juanleiden]

@Frostlander

facts support me so far

just take a look on how wealth is being distributed, unemployment, etc

[USAHavana]

@juanleiden I really hope and pray that there is some "magic bullet" alternative. But as it stands right now, we face a major energy, currency and food crisis. What will we pump into the gastanks/ can we afford to retrofit our entire nation? With the deficit haging over us like the "Sword of Damocles" , how can we afford it? I suggest we all begin to demand creative BRAINSTORMING from our leaders or its quitin time!

[nmbypmby34]

This is why we have 1 child. I think every family should have 1 child. Why have more?

[taveuni13]

Why have any?

[sca773r]

the question is... will we be able to develop some technologies soon enough in order to substitute all the resources we are depleting. i just don´t see it coming. i think there will be some tough times ahed. a lot of termoil and unrest while we go trough a transition period. i do hope than technology and human intelligence prevail on the long run. but until then... a lot of things must change in our society

[RogerOnTheRight]

Oh! Doom!

Re metal ores, if I am refining metal from raw ore, that is one thing. But, if my steel mill is using scrap metal (recycling) then my source quality is much higher than with ore. Consequently, old fashioned steel mills hardly exist now, replaced by mini-mills that process scrap.

Long term commodity prices go down, not up, including energy. The reason is innovation and technology.

[RogerOnTheRight]

Birth rates have been falling for decades now, even in such places as Bangla Desh. But, since mortality rates are falling faster, we have net increases in population.

However, around mid-century, the population of the Earth is expected to level off, around 11 billion or so.

The entire "population bomb" story turned out to be hype, based on the assumption the economy is static, and resources are fixed.

Nuclear energy was unknown 100 years ago. Crude oil was unknown 200 years ago.

[alltherestaretaken]

Nuclear energy is not the answer. It is not a renewable or sustainable resource and has a lot of negative aspects to it.

The "population bomb" story is not hype; the exact point it will happen at is what is debatable, whether it will happen is not.

The energy required for agriculture to feed 11 billion people will disappear with the oil.

Drill baby drill must be your motto - If you're willing to believe silly things such as that, you'd be willing to believe in talking snake fairy tales.

[RogerOnTheRight]

Everything has negative aspects to it. Particulary the Mathusian notion of absolutely limited resources.

Trust in innovation. We got this far, we can go much further. Problems are to be solved.

[Chromatype]

Bangla Desh???? pitiful...

[RogerOnTheRight]

What is pitiful? That their birth rate is falling?