@75bAdam75b And you'd probably lose, as is would probably be the case as 2009 Chevy Malibu vs 1959 Chevy Bel Air. Anyway, this test was done with two cars of the same maker, of same size and of the same weight. The Lada you mean would weigh more that the Barina and would be bigger in height, thus using up just the crumple zone of the latter (see Audi Q7 vs Fiat 500). Jack the Lada against a 2000 Range Rover of the same weight and height and it would not stand a chance, believe me.
@Gavichap i have a lada 2105 , afew years back my dad drove up the ass of another car. not a dent in the lada, not a scratch in the paint, the numberplate was not bent ect.... i didnt ethen no that my lada had bin in a crash until my dad told me
@75bAdam75b Yes, what you say it's perfectly plausible in small shunts. Old cars have metal bumpers which are more robust than plastic ones, so they come out unscathed. But in severe crashes it's the whole structure that matters (see the Malibu/Bel Air crash test by IIHS) and old cars' shells are simply NOT engineered to dissipate the impact forces. Your Lada will be OK versus a small car, but against a modern SUV or off-roader it would be curtains for it. Don't be misled.
Fake. They have taken the engine out of the old car. Watch closely and you can tell. They did the same trick on the Volvo 940 vs Renault Modus crash test. It's a shame they have to do that to make the new car win.
@Hammer0165 See watch?v=RoG9wDAmkcQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1 "IIHS Demo Debunked". The engine of the Bel Air is clearly visible. As regards the Volvo vs the Renault your speculation is frankly ludicrous.
Excuse me? The sensor didn't believe that was a severe enough collision to fire the airbag? What the hell would it take to set it off if not this?
If the new car is so stiff, how would it fare against another one just like it? We've been told stiffness is a bad thing, so they would have to have figured a way around that.
That model Espace still had the engineering of the original model from 1984. Its body was fiberglass, and it was on a steel chassis. They just put airbags in it, but that wouldn't do any good against a tougher car, like the new one.
@crazyme1957 There were seat belt pretensioners, and this car had some better crumple zones that absorbed the impact instead of sending the force into the passengers.
The old Espace has a fibreglass body on a galvanised steel platform. The newer Espace has a conventional steel body and is a LOT heavier (and in V6 petrol automatic form it is classed as a gas-guzzler) Not really a fair test then is it?
@minikillaa224 You said it! This video is BULL SHIT! The "safer" failed to open the air bag and if you were inside that car, your nose would be stuck somewhere in the back of your head!
Oh no i better by a new car!! pull my pants down at the dealership sign me up into dept im just a sheeple take my money mr sales man safty safety im so scared take my money
Can't say I agree, it looked to me like they didn't hit straight on enough, too far to the side, noting like the government 40% offset tests. That's why the airbag didn't go off in the black one it probably didn't even impact the sensor. All I know is my AMERICAN Ford Escort of 12 years ago protected me like a champ when I hit a big car at 37.....the glass didn't even crack on a full frontal impact. And it's "old" and light and cheap too.....
they don't make them like they used too is true. Fiberglass body cars and plastic bumpers ha sure they are more lightweight and easier to mold than steel. But the steal cars from 1964-1992 in my opinion were some of the strongest cars we ever had. The modern cars 1993-now, even though they look good, use tons of airbags to mask their weak structures. my dad had a '87 Custom D Chevy and he accidentally hit a pole. The only thing that was damaged was the bumper. don't believe me, hey I have a pic.
I say the strongest cars were from 1950 to 1990. In fact, modern cars are recicled plastic bottles on wheels. I've a '05 Mazda 6, and its steal and plastic are weak as paper.
Dumbass u dont know shit about cars. 1950-1985 cars were heavy and doesnt had any pasive security like a collapsable structure, they were graves on wheels.
@SuperMrBentley You must insult to answer somebody who has a different oppinon like yours? Maybe the real one who doesn't know about cars is you, rude.
This is abut the stupidest video I have seen yet. Lets pit an OLD 9 year old car against a new car. My book a 2000 somethig is still a new car. Go over and check out the 59 Chevy against the 2009 Chevy. Results are amazing but sad.
yeah but put a 1971 impala vs a 2010 impala and see what happens the reason that they used that 59 is because it has an x-frame and a straight 6 engine it would have been different if they used a 71 impala with a v8 and straight frame
What will we do when we run out of cars to buy if we stop making new ones? Rebuild them by hand like in Cuba? Would the public like that? Millions are sold each year. Are there enough safer old ones to rebuild over and over? Would they crash well with bigger cars outsider their size class like new ones do?
no because the forces are twice as much as i have proop try it with your nuckles (not at 60mph though!) into a wall then both together at the same speed!
@dodgechargerdaytona Easy. They did it already: watch?v=cJrXViFfMGk The results are ghastly for the oldies, as expected and as it will always happen. Thank goodness, 50 years of engineering in carmaking have not passed in vain. Cheers.
@dodgechargerdaytona it been done..very close to same vehicles you describe. look up.. crash test 1959 chevrolet bel air vs 2009 chevrolet malibu. i know this post is 2 years old so just look it up if you have not seen it. new cars will win every time as far as saving your life, they are much safer ( more ridgid)
@FantomLightning the 59 bel air had a straight 6 in it, you had all that space on either side of the motor and that is why it crumabled so. I think anyways, of course newer cars are safer no doubt .
@FantomLightning I agree, they come a long way in making cars safer. I was in a head on collison in a 95 Buick Park Ave, and had a broken foot, and sore, This girl going down the wrong side of the road was in a 2001 Thunder bird I believe she had a broken leg, both very lucky. the battery on those were under the back seat so you would not lose power, after the crash the inside lights came on and the door unlocked all on its on. Thanks Buck for giving your life for mine. and God.
The thing is,the absorption of force is shared,the older more rigid car uses the "give" in the newer car,granted the hard steel reinforced steering wheel is not going to be nice,but I was under the impression we were talking about damage to the cars,not the occupants.
Sorry about slamming you on your grammar,did not realize you were not an english speaker.
First,assuming that you know things is a mistake that another few years will teach you.
I'm not stupid,only an ignorant 21 year old punk would say that about someone they don't know.If you are running them both into a tree you'd be right.(as far as the occupants were anyway)I've studied physics but maybe I'll look up some "fhisics" and see what that book says,I admit to have never studied fpisics before.
Now I understand that the newer car obviously had less damage done to it and is undoubtedly much safer than the ford, but did anyone see the way the vans hit each other? The ford was sideswiped by the newer van, thus it incurred more damage. The newer van was hit in the frond end, incurring less damage.
okay first both cars are renault's. second they both hit eachother in the front dirvers side, the older renault was not side swiped it just crumpled so much because the new renault is very stiff.
Comme dit dans la vidéo, les airbags ne sont pas sortis car la voiture n'a pas jugé l'accident assez sévère pour avoir à les utiliser, se reportant uniquement aux ceintures pour protéger ses occupants.
lol my bro hit a 05 volvo with my dads 1986 grand marquis...the volvo completly disintegrated. cheap plastic all over the road... air bags and all depoyed. only the front grill on the marquis shattered and the hood buckled.
So you would rather die because you hit the steering wheel at five times your body weight but have a car that can be repaired. But anyway have you even seen an old car crashing into an offset barrier at 40 miles per hour. They just tear like tissue paper. Plus I am sure most people insurance.
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These tests are lies to promote a liberal agenda against big cars. If we still had big cars we wouldnt need seat belts, air bags, safety cages, etc. All the IIHS tests are complete lies. IIHS is a liberal front for the homosexual, environmental, lesbianism, veganism, socialism agenda.
I think this doesn't go for all old cars. I look for frame ratings on IIHS crash tests as well to show what happens when hitting same weight vehicle. Frame tests weren't done on many old cars, just injury risk. Now frame tests are very vigorous. My friend broadsided a Suburban doing 50 in a '95 Lexus ES300 (pimped V6 Camry) and not only were they uninjured, there was no big frame failure of the ES300/Camry. We also saw a new pickup hitting an old camry head on. Only the truck driver was injured
The new Espace's safety system is made to "know" when to deploy the Airbags, if the crash doenst warrant their deployment it wont..
It in this case decided to fire the seatbelt tensioners allowing the load limiters on the belts to work.
Airbags can cause injury's when they deploy they arn't the saving grace in most accidents look at the old espace its airbag went off but did sweet FA to save the driver...
My 92 caravan took out a dodge hemi disel, front end crushed in raditor gone, my van i got a scuff from being hit in the back at 60km hr. let my van go after them brits cars!!
That sums it all up then - if everyone drived crap cars we'll all be safe...Bout time someone tested the "they dont make them like they used to" saying. I've had big arguements about it, but all the old buggers never listen...
what the hell, on the new one the airbags didnt deploy. What the hell is that about? This car got the highest rating! Not in my book. Thats severe whip lash with out those airbags.
they don't need to go off in every crash that occurs over 12mph.. i've had 2 accidents, one near 25 mph and the other around 20... neither accident caused the airbag to go off.. had my airbag gone off in the first one i probably wouldn't have been able to keep control of the car and avoid hitting a second vehicle.. and no neck injuries to myself at all
What exactly do you mean by a crash over 12 mph? I highly doubt the passengers in the new Espace felt a higher deceleration than driving the car straight into concrete at 12 mph. The speed is not everything, you might survive sliding at 80 into a beam barrier, but be dead when crashing at 30 into a pole.
Okay, 12mph crashing into a concrete barrier or other solid object should set off the airbags. Crashing at 24mph head on into a car would create the same force.
Deceleration is the issue. Crash at 12 into a fence and you're fine with no airbag. Crash at 12 into a wall... you'll want the airbag because the car will stop much faster.
I think the "they dont build them like they used to" saying was more meant for like 40 50 60 ish cars vs. like 80s cars, and I dont think any one really thought they were safer I mean come on they dint have seat belts lol, I think they just meant that they were more durable, and somewhere the line between durability and safety got blurred together.
I think you are right, yet the common saying is so untrue it's not even funny. I saw a show about crash testing that showed a head on crash test of some 1960's sedan. The car COMPLETLEY folded in half...the backseat ended up at the dashboard. Keep in mind, back then, things like seatbelts and safety glass weren't even put into use. "They don't built them like they used to" is such a joke.
The airbag didn't need to deploy as the seatbelt pretensioners where good enough to protect the people in that accident.
Also the US crash tests are a lot more EASY to pass & get a 5 star result then the Euro Ncap crash tests which test at a higher speed & dont just slam the whole front of the car into the test barrier at 35 mph.
Id love to see some of the American cars that are available for sale today put through a Euro Ncap crash test, it would rip them to pieces.
That's actually not true at all. IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) in the US crash tests vehicles offset at 40mph. It is because of their testing that vehicles safety in the US has increased dramatically in the past 10yrs. Check out their site.
Hey I never claimed the US lead the automotive world. That's a no-brainer. Am I wrong? Doesn't NCAP test vehicles offset at 40mph? That's exactly what IIHS does, so I'm not sure how there can be a difference in the overall frontal rating of the same vehicle. What I previously said stands true. Vehicle safety in the US has improved dramatically in the past 10yrs. Because of IIHS, auto companies have improved their designs.
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infite 1 week ago
new espace amazing
dominikwys 2 weeks ago
@Hammer0165 what second was it when u noticed?
Mational1990 3 weeks ago
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this test is bull shit the old car needs to be a old russain 1990 lada! vz a newer car like a holden barina 2011
the lada will drive away the holden wont. i bet my left night the lada will win
Total fucking bullshit. Take your old tank nonsense and shove it up your ass you dick.
MilibandDavid 1 month ago
this test is bull shit the old car needs to be a old russain 1990 lada! vz a newer car like a holden barina 2011
the lada will drive away the holden wont. i bet my left night the lada will win
75bAdam75b 1 month ago
@75bAdam75b And you'd probably lose, as is would probably be the case as 2009 Chevy Malibu vs 1959 Chevy Bel Air. Anyway, this test was done with two cars of the same maker, of same size and of the same weight. The Lada you mean would weigh more that the Barina and would be bigger in height, thus using up just the crumple zone of the latter (see Audi Q7 vs Fiat 500). Jack the Lada against a 2000 Range Rover of the same weight and height and it would not stand a chance, believe me.
Gavichap 3 weeks ago
@Gavichap i have a lada 2105 , afew years back my dad drove up the ass of another car. not a dent in the lada, not a scratch in the paint, the numberplate was not bent ect.... i didnt ethen no that my lada had bin in a crash until my dad told me
75bAdam75b 3 weeks ago
@75bAdam75b Yes, what you say it's perfectly plausible in small shunts. Old cars have metal bumpers which are more robust than plastic ones, so they come out unscathed. But in severe crashes it's the whole structure that matters (see the Malibu/Bel Air crash test by IIHS) and old cars' shells are simply NOT engineered to dissipate the impact forces. Your Lada will be OK versus a small car, but against a modern SUV or off-roader it would be curtains for it. Don't be misled.
Gavichap 3 weeks ago
Fake. They have taken the engine out of the old car. Watch closely and you can tell. They did the same trick on the Volvo 940 vs Renault Modus crash test. It's a shame they have to do that to make the new car win.
Hammer0165 2 months ago
@Hammer0165 - You can see the engine on the passenger side of the old car in numerous shots. Get your eyes checked.
deloreanman14 2 months ago
@Hammer0165 See watch?v=RoG9wDAmkcQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1 "IIHS Demo Debunked". The engine of the Bel Air is clearly visible. As regards the Volvo vs the Renault your speculation is frankly ludicrous.
Gavichap 3 weeks ago
Just speculating here, but I'm guessing the newer Renault is heavier than the older one.
My guess was that they'd do equally well, but I was completely off. Interesting test.
VicariousRider 3 months ago
Excuse me? The sensor didn't believe that was a severe enough collision to fire the airbag? What the hell would it take to set it off if not this?
If the new car is so stiff, how would it fare against another one just like it? We've been told stiffness is a bad thing, so they would have to have figured a way around that.
MaestroTJS 4 months ago
@MaestroTJS Same as two cars that aren't stiff, really. Maybe they'd bounce off each other and skid.
doritostheking 4 months ago
i rolled my 16 year old Volvo 850 T5-R at over 110 MPH at the nurburgring and walked away...... I will never buy a new car.
MrRavewolf 4 months ago
Put a lorrry vs Justin Bieber
bigtrevvy 5 months ago
Both suck.
highlanderhybrid 6 months ago
what about airbags???????/
missBasescu 6 months ago
@missBasescu
Airbags fire at a specified deceleration.
Low deceleration just seat-belt tensioners. higher deceleraton seat-belt tensioners and after that airbags.
the impact was not strong enough.
TriumphBiker1980 5 months ago
@TriumphBiker1980
I understand,thx a lot !
missBasescu 2 months ago
the new car have an airbag failure..you can see the dummy driver hit the steering wheels.
wyunaboy 6 months ago
That model Espace still had the engineering of the original model from 1984. Its body was fiberglass, and it was on a steel chassis. They just put airbags in it, but that wouldn't do any good against a tougher car, like the new one.
frohman3 7 months ago
where is renault espace 09´s airbag?
att1908 7 months ago
That's much more informative than all wall impact - crash tests I saw recently.
If You think the same agree with me on this one :)
uprightbassmatt 8 months ago 13
what the hell the air bag didn't open and they did not get hurt as bad.
crazyme1957 11 months ago
@crazyme1957 There were seat belt pretensioners, and this car had some better crumple zones that absorbed the impact instead of sending the force into the passengers.
frohman3 10 months ago
how aboat a '85 volvo 740 vs a '09 dacia sandero:>
90Ming90 11 months ago
I CAN SHOW THIS MY MOTHER BECAUSE SCHE GOT THE RENAULT ESPACE so i can show her how safe this car is
Gh0stSK1lzzz 1 year ago
It would be interesting to have a crash with a Hummer H3 and the "new" Espace. I bet the Espace would smash through the Hummer
JUliVideofreAk 1 year ago
Where's the Chrysler Imperials?
rocknoutamerica 1 year ago
@rocknoutamerica where's the what now?
TahreyUK 7 months ago
Where's the Chrysler Imperials?
rocknoutamerica 1 year ago
The old Espace has a fibreglass body on a galvanised steel platform. The newer Espace has a conventional steel body and is a LOT heavier (and in V6 petrol automatic form it is classed as a gas-guzzler) Not really a fair test then is it?
techdavey1000 1 year ago
i say we pull a 59 Ford Galaxie vs a smart car!!! loook up that car...ITS HUGE!!!
gadejfan 1 year ago
What old car??????LOLOLOL!
gtsuperjet 1 year ago
yhey even macht up the people lol old with old and almost new with new lol
fofe11 1 year ago
boy would you be sore after a hit like that
C0LL1N 1 year ago
@britneytimberlake11 fucking britneytimberlake11
what a pointless comment you made there, omg
2AgentSmith2 1 year ago
Renault escape
Aqwert76 1 year ago
The styling hasn't changed at all, they're both ugly as fuck
meatwad21121 1 year ago
She needs a good pounding.
mercmarc 1 year ago
i like these videos
BlaykonsBacon 1 year ago
haha, the dummy hit his head so hard on the steering wheel
minikillaa224 1 year ago
@minikillaa224 You said it! This video is BULL SHIT! The "safer" failed to open the air bag and if you were inside that car, your nose would be stuck somewhere in the back of your head!
MrDevlance 1 year ago
Oh no i better by a new car!! pull my pants down at the dealership sign me up into dept im just a sheeple take my money mr sales man safty safety im so scared take my money
gunitfor 1 year ago
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
thisisonps3 1 year ago
When it said new vs old I pictured a amercan 60s car vs 2008-9 car.. Woulda been way more exciting
Maktrevino 1 year ago
@Maktrevino There's a 50 something Bel-Aire vs a 2008 Malibu somewhere on Youtube. Just look up old vs new crash test.
kovu159 1 year ago
renault in US please
pancakewafflebacon 1 year ago
Can't say I agree, it looked to me like they didn't hit straight on enough, too far to the side, noting like the government 40% offset tests. That's why the airbag didn't go off in the black one it probably didn't even impact the sensor. All I know is my AMERICAN Ford Escort of 12 years ago protected me like a champ when I hit a big car at 37.....the glass didn't even crack on a full frontal impact. And it's "old" and light and cheap too.....
yellowmusicfreak 1 year ago
they don't make them like they used too is true. Fiberglass body cars and plastic bumpers ha sure they are more lightweight and easier to mold than steel. But the steal cars from 1964-1992 in my opinion were some of the strongest cars we ever had. The modern cars 1993-now, even though they look good, use tons of airbags to mask their weak structures. my dad had a '87 Custom D Chevy and he accidentally hit a pole. The only thing that was damaged was the bumper. don't believe me, hey I have a pic.
returnoftheCutlass86 1 year ago
I say the strongest cars were from 1950 to 1990. In fact, modern cars are recicled plastic bottles on wheels. I've a '05 Mazda 6, and its steal and plastic are weak as paper.
FURY1958 1 year ago
Dumbass u dont know shit about cars. 1950-1985 cars were heavy and doesnt had any pasive security like a collapsable structure, they were graves on wheels.
SuperMrBentley 1 year ago
@SuperMrBentley You must insult to answer somebody who has a different oppinon like yours? Maybe the real one who doesn't know about cars is you, rude.
FURY1958 1 year ago
@FURY1958 Alrigth car guru.
SuperMrBentley 1 year ago
@FURY1958 just simple things most new cars have bars under dash' if u put them into a bell air then see who wins!
gunitfor 1 year ago
You learn English, morron! Пидорас!
fordorgnew 2 years ago
those airbags should have gone off anyway, just to be on the safe side
KarlPilkington 2 years ago 2
If they would have gone of pretentiously, then they could have caused MORE damage than the crash would have on its own.
HotTexasBoi 2 years ago
This is abut the stupidest video I have seen yet. Lets pit an OLD 9 year old car against a new car. My book a 2000 somethig is still a new car. Go over and check out the 59 Chevy against the 2009 Chevy. Results are amazing but sad.
ARTEMIS1759 2 years ago
yeah but put a 1971 impala vs a 2010 impala and see what happens the reason that they used that 59 is because it has an x-frame and a straight 6 engine it would have been different if they used a 71 impala with a v8 and straight frame
999equalizer 1 year ago
stop driving new cars and people wont die :=)
volvo145 2 years ago 3
Aren't the old cars death traps?
myphonyaccount 2 years ago
No, stop making new cars and let people drive good looking cars from the 90s and 90s. Msotly BMW Volvo Merc and those beadcuse they are safe.
and when they crash with each other they are not death traps.
volvo145 2 years ago
What will we do when we run out of cars to buy if we stop making new ones? Rebuild them by hand like in Cuba? Would the public like that? Millions are sold each year. Are there enough safer old ones to rebuild over and over? Would they crash well with bigger cars outsider their size class like new ones do?
myphonyaccount 2 years ago
That would motivate peopel to propbery maintain their cars.
Which we in europe and america can do beacuse of the availibilty of spare parts, unlike cuba.
volvo145 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this poor quality video. Good on you.
panictactics 2 years ago
oh your one of those HD fags.
volvo145 2 years ago
God hates Sweden.
panictactics 2 years ago
no but homophobics does.
volvo145 2 years ago
You have to admit, this is TERRIBLE quality.
camelapodo 2 years ago
an old renault disintegrated in a crash? no way! I never would have guessed it.
eatpogs 2 years ago
OmG.....I so hate Fifth Gear. It's so dull!!!
csihardfan111 2 years ago 4
Do you like Top Gear's silly scripted 'challenges'?
panictactics 2 years ago
Hey, at least it's FUNNY.
csihardfan111 2 years ago
How is this possibly dull????? It's a sodding car crash!!
rup8601 2 years ago
Its dull because I dont see them joking about the aftermath of the crash. Which top gear usually does.
csihardfan111 2 years ago
i hate brithis accent
malagradecido 2 years ago
they should give that to topgear and it will be more itereting!
WARzone4912 2 years ago
i would like to see TopGear do this testing! :) Jeremy 4 King of UK! :)
PALU3K 2 years ago
the audio skipping is annoying
tjf4375 2 years ago 2
I think the crash was strong enough for the airbag deployment. Maybe the new Space had a failure
harmankardonbose 2 years ago
the old car is totaled.....cant believe....still...its from 1997..pretty old
FilipKolevski 2 years ago
i like to see the 58 Plymouth fury vs smart car lol
739199 2 years ago 45
Christine will eat this little shit!!:-DDD
janjirousek 2 years ago
lol
739199 2 years ago
lol
NikkoCharger 2 years ago
I think the new Espace is at least 200 kilograms heavier.
wilcothefox 2 years ago
the new one looks better!
MaryStewart 2 years ago
they're both ugly
seltsum 2 years ago
something some crash tester oeeos forgot about is they test for headon collisions by tjhrowing the car at a solid wall.
but in a real head on the forces will be much greater than hitting a wall. OBSERVE AS I ADD UP THEIR SPEEDS
Wall:
Collision=60mph+0mph Car+wall
Real Life:
Collision=60mph+60mphmph Car+Car
Lukiedapukie 2 years ago
It's the same thing. A stationary wall will cause the same impact to a car as if it was another car traveling at the same speed.
So 60 mph into a wall is the same thing as a head on collision where both cars are going 60 mph.
Had they used a stationary car in place of a wall, then you'd be correct, because that stationary wall has a heck of a lot more give than the wall.
DestinysJester 2 years ago
no because the forces are twice as much as i have proop try it with your nuckles (not at 60mph though!) into a wall then both together at the same speed!
jaffacake1578 2 years ago
allright now put a 68 impala versus a 08 and lets see how that goes
dodgechargerdaytona 3 years ago 20
New Impala will get owned lol. Lets do a 1977 Monte Carlo and an 08 Monte Carlo head on too.
STBRecordz 2 years ago
@dodgechargerdaytona
The 68 will LOSE BIG TIME!
flyboymd82 1 year ago
@dodgechargerdaytona look up 59 Bel Aire vs 09 malibu
keeshateachphet 1 year ago
@dodgechargerdaytona Easy. They did it already: watch?v=cJrXViFfMGk The results are ghastly for the oldies, as expected and as it will always happen. Thank goodness, 50 years of engineering in carmaking have not passed in vain. Cheers.
Gavichap 1 year ago
@dodgechargerdaytona the 08 Almost anything would still win. safety technology has come a very very long way.
CTUKeyes 11 months ago
@dodgechargerdaytona it been done..very close to same vehicles you describe. look up.. crash test 1959 chevrolet bel air vs 2009 chevrolet malibu. i know this post is 2 years old so just look it up if you have not seen it. new cars will win every time as far as saving your life, they are much safer ( more ridgid)
sublimedward 9 months ago
@sublimedward a 68 impala is a lot stroger than a bel air. it has a fully boxed frame, and dual shock tower to firewall braces.
automotiveDIY 7 months ago
@dodgechargerdaytona How about a 59 and an 09?
PS. The 09 wins.
lrossi888 8 months ago
@dodgechargerdaytona I'd rather be in the newer car EVERY time.
2000jeepsahara 7 months ago
@dodgechargerdaytona Go check out the vid of a 59 bel air vs a 09 malibu the bel air got destoryed just like the older impala would
FantomLightning 6 months ago
@FantomLightning the 59 bel air had a straight 6 in it, you had all that space on either side of the motor and that is why it crumabled so. I think anyways, of course newer cars are safer no doubt .
1969pontiac1 5 months ago
@1969pontiac1 Still look at modern cars with straight sixes in them they do wwwwaaaayyyyy better
FantomLightning 5 months ago
@FantomLightning I agree, they come a long way in making cars safer. I was in a head on collison in a 95 Buick Park Ave, and had a broken foot, and sore, This girl going down the wrong side of the road was in a 2001 Thunder bird I believe she had a broken leg, both very lucky. the battery on those were under the back seat so you would not lose power, after the crash the inside lights came on and the door unlocked all on its on. Thanks Buck for giving your life for mine. and God.
1969pontiac1 5 months ago
@dodgechargerdaytona they put a 59 bel air and an 09 malibu
spookypensreturns 3 months ago
@dodgechargerdaytona They did and it didn't go so well for the older car.
RetroGamerr1991 3 months ago
@RetroGamerr1991 that was not a 68 impala !
weedmastersr 3 months ago
@RetroGamerr1991 Yeah but it would have been the same result.
RetroGamerr1991 3 months ago
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great vid 2U
GrifRulez 3 years ago
is this Beyond Tomorrow on th discovery channel???
lctb51 3 years ago
The thing is,the absorption of force is shared,the older more rigid car uses the "give" in the newer car,granted the hard steel reinforced steering wheel is not going to be nice,but I was under the impression we were talking about damage to the cars,not the occupants.
Sorry about slamming you on your grammar,did not realize you were not an english speaker.
rotundrooster 3 years ago
First,assuming that you know things is a mistake that another few years will teach you.
I'm not stupid,only an ignorant 21 year old punk would say that about someone they don't know.If you are running them both into a tree you'd be right.(as far as the occupants were anyway)I've studied physics but maybe I'll look up some "fhisics" and see what that book says,I admit to have never studied fpisics before.
rotundrooster 3 years ago
BTW,before you call someone stupid maybe you should make sure your grammar and spelling don't make you look like a fool.
rotundrooster 3 years ago
You must be joking,or know nothing about physics (guessing that what fisics meant)
rotundrooster 3 years ago
Now I understand that the newer car obviously had less damage done to it and is undoubtedly much safer than the ford, but did anyone see the way the vans hit each other? The ford was sideswiped by the newer van, thus it incurred more damage. The newer van was hit in the frond end, incurring less damage.
brougham89 3 years ago
okay first both cars are renault's. second they both hit eachother in the front dirvers side, the older renault was not side swiped it just crumpled so much because the new renault is very stiff.
evilangel4694 3 years ago 2
Où sont les airbags de la Espace IV?
Comparauto 3 years ago
Comme dit dans la vidéo, les airbags ne sont pas sortis car la voiture n'a pas jugé l'accident assez sévère pour avoir à les utiliser, se reportant uniquement aux ceintures pour protéger ses occupants.
scrubs291292 2 years ago
french do it better
RafaLisbon1986 3 years ago 2
they need to do like prius vs.67'Camaro or El Dorado
christiandude2795 3 years ago 3
I want to see a Caprice VS a Prius!
rik747 3 years ago
i want to see a 1975 cadillac or grand marquis and a new honda...
bxlxix69 3 years ago
lol my bro hit a 05 volvo with my dads 1986 grand marquis...the volvo completly disintegrated. cheap plastic all over the road... air bags and all depoyed. only the front grill on the marquis shattered and the hood buckled.
Jackaldoublenine 3 years ago
the other day, a pacifica hit my Cherokee, his ride is wrecked, and i got a foot kick in the fender in comparison, hahahaa stupid chryslers...
bxlxix69 3 years ago 2
ya older cars are fucking tanks compared to these go-carts on the street now.
Jackaldoublenine 3 years ago
Your Cherokee is a Chrysler...
speer320 3 years ago
Thats because its designed to crumple.
ryan680923enter 3 years ago
and be a total write off?
Jackaldoublenine 3 years ago
No it may look completely demolished. Because it is designed to take away as much energy as possible.
ryan680923enter 3 years ago
its designed to be destroyed so that u will go buy another one.
Jackaldoublenine 3 years ago
So you would rather die because you hit the steering wheel at five times your body weight but have a car that can be repaired. But anyway have you even seen an old car crashing into an offset barrier at 40 miles per hour. They just tear like tissue paper. Plus I am sure most people insurance.
ryan680923enter 3 years ago
youre an even bigger idiot than i thought.
Jackaldoublenine 3 years ago
You're a real insightful guy arent you?
HB45175 3 years ago
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These tests are lies to promote a liberal agenda against big cars. If we still had big cars we wouldnt need seat belts, air bags, safety cages, etc. All the IIHS tests are complete lies. IIHS is a liberal front for the homosexual, environmental, lesbianism, veganism, socialism agenda.
LatteLiberal 3 years ago
Lulz troll
DestinysJester 3 years ago
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scrubs291292 2 years ago
I think this doesn't go for all old cars. I look for frame ratings on IIHS crash tests as well to show what happens when hitting same weight vehicle. Frame tests weren't done on many old cars, just injury risk. Now frame tests are very vigorous. My friend broadsided a Suburban doing 50 in a '95 Lexus ES300 (pimped V6 Camry) and not only were they uninjured, there was no big frame failure of the ES300/Camry. We also saw a new pickup hitting an old camry head on. Only the truck driver was injured
mkgamesdotnet 3 years ago
The new Espace's safety system is made to "know" when to deploy the Airbags, if the crash doenst warrant their deployment it wont..
It in this case decided to fire the seatbelt tensioners allowing the load limiters on the belts to work.
Airbags can cause injury's when they deploy they arn't the saving grace in most accidents look at the old espace its airbag went off but did sweet FA to save the driver...
Andymonty27 3 years ago 10
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airbags damage your hearing....like a gun going off inside of the car
hetzii 3 years ago
por q no0 se inflaron los airbags de la nueva space?
hurleygomez 3 years ago
if i was crashing like that...
id prefer if my airbag would go off...
sfalconI6 3 years ago 2
Looks like the new one weighs more than the old hence the fact it "drives" further.
colklink00 3 years ago
its not the weight only. check out the volvo 940 vs renault modus vid...
malamolo 3 years ago 3
holy shit, that guy is dead
noobaday 4 years ago
My 92 caravan took out a dodge hemi disel, front end crushed in raditor gone, my van i got a scuff from being hit in the back at 60km hr. let my van go after them brits cars!!
matteoiseuro 4 years ago
I wanna see a real test. Citroen C6 vs Citroen DS21
Truemouse 4 years ago
I remember Renaults when I was a kid. They were nothing but trouble. Who would want one?
Luzern76 4 years ago
They had Renaults in Canada back in the 80's and they were horrible cars. The French did not come up with very many automotive masterpieces.
richardwhat 4 years ago
renault are known for being a piece of junk. even in france. cheap material, low costs, underpaid workers.
viktorfalco 4 years ago
That sums it all up then - if everyone drived crap cars we'll all be safe...Bout time someone tested the "they dont make them like they used to" saying. I've had big arguements about it, but all the old buggers never listen...
evanccsmith 4 years ago
Moralité les voitures 4 ou 5 * sont trés dangeureuses pour les autres ... :(
ginkos23 4 years ago
what the hell, on the new one the airbags didnt deploy. What the hell is that about? This car got the highest rating! Not in my book. Thats severe whip lash with out those airbags.
rrange 4 years ago
The airbags didn't deploy because the force of the impact was to low for the airbag sensor. The pretensioners and loadlimiters were enough
SteefuitHeerlen 4 years ago
Or, that's what Renualt said. The airbags should fire in any crash over 12mph, because that s the speed it would take to cause neck/head injuries.
lowcostvideos 4 years ago 3
Totally agree! If your car is gonna be totaled like that new espace, you might as well fire of the airbags...
SarcoMorbato 4 years ago 3
they don't need to go off in every crash that occurs over 12mph.. i've had 2 accidents, one near 25 mph and the other around 20... neither accident caused the airbag to go off.. had my airbag gone off in the first one i probably wouldn't have been able to keep control of the car and avoid hitting a second vehicle.. and no neck injuries to myself at all
ReisendeEuropa 4 years ago
What exactly do you mean by a crash over 12 mph? I highly doubt the passengers in the new Espace felt a higher deceleration than driving the car straight into concrete at 12 mph. The speed is not everything, you might survive sliding at 80 into a beam barrier, but be dead when crashing at 30 into a pole.
captmcneil 4 years ago 2
Okay, 12mph crashing into a concrete barrier or other solid object should set off the airbags. Crashing at 24mph head on into a car would create the same force.
lowcostvideos 4 years ago
Not if the other car is lighter.
captmcneil 4 years ago
Deceleration is the issue. Crash at 12 into a fence and you're fine with no airbag. Crash at 12 into a wall... you'll want the airbag because the car will stop much faster.
DestinysJester 4 years ago
I don't want the airbag until I'm hitting a wall at about 23+ mph. Below 23, I'd rather be able to fix the car for cheaper. I have a hard head BTW.
whattheheck1000 3 years ago
plus, if you have on a seatbelt, you shouldn't be injured in a safe car untill like 40 (with out airbag).
mkgamesdotnet 3 years ago
I have my seatbelt on.
whattheheck1000 3 years ago
12 mph the air bag should not ever come out.
seanrayscam 3 years ago 3
Why didn't new one's airbags open?
wwoodpeckerr 4 years ago
those cars suck!
LeoDJ1992 4 years ago
I think the "they dont build them like they used to" saying was more meant for like 40 50 60 ish cars vs. like 80s cars, and I dont think any one really thought they were safer I mean come on they dint have seat belts lol, I think they just meant that they were more durable, and somewhere the line between durability and safety got blurred together.
BoberMcBoberson 4 years ago
I think you are right, yet the common saying is so untrue it's not even funny. I saw a show about crash testing that showed a head on crash test of some 1960's sedan. The car COMPLETLEY folded in half...the backseat ended up at the dashboard. Keep in mind, back then, things like seatbelts and safety glass weren't even put into use. "They don't built them like they used to" is such a joke.
palebeachbum 4 years ago
Stupid douche! The airbag SHOULD HAVE DEPLOYED in that severe of a crash. This would have been a mark against this vehicle in the US.
palebeachbum 4 years ago
The airbag didn't need to deploy as the seatbelt pretensioners where good enough to protect the people in that accident.
Also the US crash tests are a lot more EASY to pass & get a 5 star result then the Euro Ncap crash tests which test at a higher speed & dont just slam the whole front of the car into the test barrier at 35 mph.
Id love to see some of the American cars that are available for sale today put through a Euro Ncap crash test, it would rip them to pieces.
Forkingabout 4 years ago
That's actually not true at all. IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) in the US crash tests vehicles offset at 40mph. It is because of their testing that vehicles safety in the US has increased dramatically in the past 10yrs. Check out their site.
palebeachbum 4 years ago
I looked at the IIHS site, still not as tough a test as euro ncap, only got to look at the results for a 2002 - 2005 Kia Sedona to see.
A very poor 2 stars from euro ncap.
IIHS rate the car as acceptable & good for safety
Also a shame the US doesn't follow Europe for once & make the fitting of ABS anti lock brakes a legal requirement on all new cars / vans sold.
Forkingabout 4 years ago 2
Hey I never claimed the US lead the automotive world. That's a no-brainer. Am I wrong? Doesn't NCAP test vehicles offset at 40mph? That's exactly what IIHS does, so I'm not sure how there can be a difference in the overall frontal rating of the same vehicle. What I previously said stands true. Vehicle safety in the US has improved dramatically in the past 10yrs. Because of IIHS, auto companies have improved their designs.
palebeachbum 4 years ago
Pause at 1:51!
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Detelinaramafia 4 years ago
You are a buch of cowards.
Renault spends millions every year in safety, and that´s why they have this kind of products for sale.
Learn more before posting shit, Europe is ON.
TheAxeMurderer666 4 years ago