@satchwayne When improvising over this track, yes, you use the B Locrian scale over the Bmin7b5 chord (the first chord in the progression). But the chord progression is a ii-v-i in A minor. B locrian has the same notes as the A minor scale; they are both diatonic to each other. Think of B locrian as the 2nd mode of the minor scale (the seventh mode of the major scale). Anyways, the jam track is in the key of A minor, not B locrian. The note "A" is the tonal center, not "B."
The progression may be in a minor key, but if you use the Locrian scale to improvise on, then that is more than enough for some people. The problem with using Locrian harmonies is that the tonic is a minor7flat5 chord, which is really hard to resolve to. I just solve this by not expecting my Locrian stuff to resolve, and then it can do whatever. Haha
Good job on the solo, man. Both this and the second part, I loved them both!
@TheRockerInside Modes are really no mystery. All they are is a tone within the major scale. Locrian happens to be the seventh mode in the major scale so if you play from B to B in the C major scale, you have B locrian. The catch is knowing when to use which mode because each mode has a flavor to it. To find that out you have to be able to harmonize a scale. Check out Dave Weiner's lesson on that. Just search it here on youtube. Hope this helps!!
Are you sure that was actually Locrian? Maybe I'm hearing it wrong but it sounded more like it was in A minor or something close to that. It was certainly a nice jam!
But there are more to modes than just scales. For it to actually be in Locrian it has to resolve to the 7th scale degree, otherwise it's just using a major/minor scale.
@satchwayne Yep, The B locrian mode is the same pattern (not scale) as C ionian and A aeolian. But starting from B, which let's the intervals do the work at their structure.
its not just the locrian or the phrygian its all modes in general. it seems like the only emotion is used on major minor pentatonic and blues scales. probably cus their the easiest lol
hey bro i got 2 questions, first, where do you get your backing tracks (such as this one) and second, how long have you been playing the locrian, your fucking sick!
Thanks so much! I actually don't use Locrian that much since it works over diminshed chords. I do like the scale a lot though. Usually people use it as a dark scale in metal but I find much better uses for it then just metal.
locrian always sounded weird to me! i never thought that this scale CAN sound so awesome? can you tell me the chord progreesion? it is a minor b5 with what?
Thanks so much!! I think you are right about the minor flat five thing....It is either that or a diminished chord. Yes, locrian is one of those odd ball scales but sounds great when you use it.
Probably the reason that people don't use this mode is because it is one of those modes that has to have a diminished chord as its root. It works over a B diminished chord because Locrian is the seventh tone of the major scale. I love the sound as well. Kirk Hammet has used this mode a lot in Metallica.
Technically, this is in A minor (aeolian). The progression is a ii-v-i, resolving to an A minor chord.
dann3th3manni3 6 months ago
@dann3th3manni3 You can argue that with Dave Weiner.
satchwayne 6 months ago
@satchwayne When improvising over this track, yes, you use the B Locrian scale over the Bmin7b5 chord (the first chord in the progression). But the chord progression is a ii-v-i in A minor. B locrian has the same notes as the A minor scale; they are both diatonic to each other. Think of B locrian as the 2nd mode of the minor scale (the seventh mode of the major scale). Anyways, the jam track is in the key of A minor, not B locrian. The note "A" is the tonal center, not "B."
dann3th3manni3 6 months ago
@satchwayne
The progression may be in a minor key, but if you use the Locrian scale to improvise on, then that is more than enough for some people. The problem with using Locrian harmonies is that the tonic is a minor7flat5 chord, which is really hard to resolve to. I just solve this by not expecting my Locrian stuff to resolve, and then it can do whatever. Haha
Good job on the solo, man. Both this and the second part, I loved them both!
projectbaum 6 months ago
Finally, someone using locrian that isn't playing metal crap
zectofrazer 8 months ago
You're an excellent guitarist, man!
Keep it up. I wish you the best.
ToddlerWithAKnife 8 months ago
Not very lochrian to my mind ... 1.06 nicely resolved into something else.
andylowings 8 months ago
Not very lochrian to my mind
andylowings 8 months ago
Sounds really jazzy
Django5198 11 months ago
Fantastic my friend!!!!
LorettaV 11 months ago
@LorettaV Thank you so much bro!
satchwayne 11 months ago
@TheRockerInside Modes are really no mystery. All they are is a tone within the major scale. Locrian happens to be the seventh mode in the major scale so if you play from B to B in the C major scale, you have B locrian. The catch is knowing when to use which mode because each mode has a flavor to it. To find that out you have to be able to harmonize a scale. Check out Dave Weiner's lesson on that. Just search it here on youtube. Hope this helps!!
satchwayne 1 year ago
So nice... the intent, the tone, the textures... well done.
RaddNiner 1 year ago
@RaddNiner Thank you for the nice comment!!
satchwayne 1 year ago
nice
scimpi 1 year ago
@scimpi Thanks!
satchwayne 1 year ago
Locrian is majestic, I use it all the time along with double harmonic minor, phygian dominant, minor and lydian flat 5
guitarshredking 1 year ago
@guitarshredking I like it as well but don't use it much
satchwayne 1 year ago
I can hear a bit of a Shawn Lane influence here ;) Fuckin love it man
metalmasta 1 year ago
@metalmasta Thanks so much! I get that a lot and didn't know who that guy was until i looked him up and was blown away!
satchwayne 1 year ago
Are you sure that was actually Locrian? Maybe I'm hearing it wrong but it sounded more like it was in A minor or something close to that. It was certainly a nice jam!
But there are more to modes than just scales. For it to actually be in Locrian it has to resolve to the 7th scale degree, otherwise it's just using a major/minor scale.
abdnumber4 1 year ago
@abdnumber4 I got the track from dave weiner and I am using the A minor scale but with the seventh degree which is locrian like you said
satchwayne 1 year ago
@satchwayne Yep, The B locrian mode is the same pattern (not scale) as C ionian and A aeolian. But starting from B, which let's the intervals do the work at their structure.
ArtuRider 1 year ago
@abdnumber4 According to Dave Weiner it is...I got this track from him.
satchwayne 1 year ago
Your insane man! Thats some damn good melodic playing and lightning licks =]
metalmasta 1 year ago
@metalmasta
Thanks so much man!!
satchwayne 1 year ago
your really good
HeyLoliGirl 1 year ago
@HeyLoliGirl Thank you and I am not really that good. There are so many great players out there.
satchwayne 1 year ago
Whoa!!! Brilliant! I usually can't stand to hear Locrian but you added beauty to it. I applaude you Dude.
jimdog1964 1 year ago
@jimdog1964 Thank you!
satchwayne 1 year ago
nice work as always. what chords did you use for the backing track?
fupasack2 1 year ago
@fupasack2 Not sure what the chords are actually!!
satchwayne 1 year ago
@satchwayne do you think you could tell me the notes in the chords so i can figure them out for myself?
fupasack2 1 year ago
whats the chord proggression for that
pmasta333 2 years ago
@pmasta333 Not sure but i got it at Dave Weiner's site
satchwayne 1 year ago
very nice execution. not a common scale. you tore it up man. good on ya
doctorrockerr 2 years ago
Thanks!
satchwayne 2 years ago
Where is your halo...
Heavenly.
5 fucking /5.
Ln192 2 years ago
I think it is in my case!! Thanks!!! lol
satchwayne 2 years ago
thanks so much man. people who usually play this shred without any emotion at all and its starting to piss me off
MrAlfredocolon 2 years ago
I feel the same way with phrygian. I'd like to see people start putting more emotion into that mode.
XICEKILLERX123 2 years ago
its not just the locrian or the phrygian its all modes in general. it seems like the only emotion is used on major minor pentatonic and blues scales. probably cus their the easiest lol
MrAlfredocolon 2 years ago 2
Right on bro!!
satchwayne 2 years ago
I agree it is such a nice sounding scale if it is played with passion! I am still working on that!
satchwayne 2 years ago
Thank you so very much!
satchwayne 2 years ago
Sick dude.
Mister10445 2 years ago
Thanks man!!!
satchwayne 2 years ago
Really cool jam
ArtuRider 2 years ago
Thanks so much!!
satchwayne 2 years ago
nice man
conscript93 2 years ago
Thanks a lot!!
satchwayne 2 years ago
hey bro i got 2 questions, first, where do you get your backing tracks (such as this one) and second, how long have you been playing the locrian, your fucking sick!
Pin3app1e3xpre55 2 years ago
Thanks so much! I actually don't use Locrian that much since it works over diminshed chords. I do like the scale a lot though. Usually people use it as a dark scale in metal but I find much better uses for it then just metal.
satchwayne 2 years ago
sweet, and the backing track?
Pin3app1e3xpre55 2 years ago
im noticing almost all the scales used in metal you can put over 7th chords and diminished chords and turn them into jazz and its awesome!
pmasta333 2 years ago
Amazing... Never listened a locrian mode as well as this... it's just... amazing...
Could you tell which chords did you use?
pepeowen 2 years ago
I am actually not sure on the chords because I got the backing track from online. I could figure them out for you and get back to you on that.
satchwayne 2 years ago
I can't believe it. Someone made the locrian mode sound good. I'd like to see you improvise with the octatonic scale too.
shredcity12345 2 years ago
Cool!!!
satchwayne 2 years ago
this tune is in locrian mode?????
lol ! it sounds awesome man! this is So cool!
locrian always sounded weird to me! i never thought that this scale CAN sound so awesome? can you tell me the chord progreesion? it is a minor b5 with what?
ioannisdenton 3 years ago
Thanks so much!! I think you are right about the minor flat five thing....It is either that or a diminished chord. Yes, locrian is one of those odd ball scales but sounds great when you use it.
satchwayne 3 years ago
Why not many people use this mode? It has an exotic, mellow and beautiful sound.
jagalocoloco432 3 years ago
Probably the reason that people don't use this mode is because it is one of those modes that has to have a diminished chord as its root. It works over a B diminished chord because Locrian is the seventh tone of the major scale. I love the sound as well. Kirk Hammet has used this mode a lot in Metallica.
satchwayne 3 years ago
very nice stuff man
metallic219 3 years ago
Thanks so much bro!!
satchwayne 3 years ago
is that the satriani signature guitar?
PhilippeMusique 3 years ago
Yes it is a JS1200CA
satchwayne 3 years ago
cheers to a true satch fan
PhilippeMusique 3 years ago
Nice playing and great guitar...
ManWithPlan3 3 years ago
Thanks a lot!
satchwayne 3 years ago
Wow, I really love this--it's so smooth, jazzy and relaxing... nice work!
Atoms4Peace 3 years ago
Thanks a lot man! I am exploring jazz more and more! I need a lot of help though!
satchwayne 3 years ago
OMG SOOO GOOD
HXCpr0n 3 years ago
Thanks so much!!
satchwayne 3 years ago
Hi, can you share that backing track ?
Thanks
rbfigueira 3 years ago
Well executed. Beautiful tone!
JoshKoen 3 years ago
Thanks so much for the nice comment! I am only using a Roland cube practice amp on this vid.
satchwayne 3 years ago
locrian is my fav mode
KevinCarey 3 years ago
Not many people use it. It is a very interesting sounding mode.
satchwayne 3 years ago
nice man i like
stanghead3000 3 years ago
Thanks a lot bro and sorry I didn't respond for such a long time.
satchwayne 3 years ago
Very smooth.
Critdizzle 3 years ago
SWEET wayne. I like this one! even if it was for a minute.
fanatik4jc 3 years ago
You are too kind!! Thanks
satchwayne 3 years ago