Expanding guitar sounds w/ Roland gr20gk

[GasparXR]

Were you playing any sections from songs in this video? The chord progressions sounded way too awesome to be improvised on the spot like that. Unless you're secretly in Dream Theater or something :P

[GuitarFeeling]

@GasparXR

:D well, that's a really awesome comment and I thank you for thinkin' of me as a DT secret member, but the only not-improvised part in the whole video is the Bach theme of "aria sulla quarta corda", the rest is completely improvised on a quite easy and tonal chords progression, don't remember if in A major of something... and E minor, maybe...

[wesmatron]

@GuitarFeeling Whichever mode you're using for the first bit, sound like 'Yes' to me...may I ask what it is you're doing?

[GuitarFeeling]

@wesmatron

Sorry dude, I'm not sure I've understood your question (my english is not that good...), do you mean you wanna know what I'm playing? If that's so, I don't remember... It's been four years ago... :D

I think I was just improvvising on a major chord, maybe Amaj. :)

[GuitarFeeling]

@GuitarFeeling

I mean... Emaj.

[6STRINGBROKEN]

NICE...I may buy one and expand my guitars. Thanx for the reitcheous demo

[seth3556r]

where's the melody?

[GuitarFeeling]

@seth3556r

Everywhere something makes you happy for a while.

:)

[seth3556r]

ya, does sound good tho

[nyos49]

Well done. love the intro especially. To comment on a previous post. the 20 has better tracking than the 33 but not as in- depth editing b/c they replace the analog 33 circuit with a digi. There will be latency issues with any midi guitar processor but it can be compensated with an adjustment to the "feel" parameters or the like. the key is to remember what instrument you are emulating and play to that instruments style and range. this video is a perfect example of a 20 in the right hands

[GuitarFeeling]

wow... thanks a lot! :)

[jakethecooldude]

is the distorted guitar sound at the start coming straight from the gr20 or from a guitar amp ?

[GuitarFeeling]

from a GT6

[skinnydipper16]

Is there a way of changing the note of the pad while still being able to play? Is there any way of using your feet to do this?

[GuitarFeeling]

Do you mean change the pad chord without play the note on the guitar? Nope. You have to strum the chord, hold it by feet and play with the guitar above.

[ZribTurd]

how much did you get it for

[GuitarFeeling]

less than 300€ used.

[MarioLoco03]

i wish i knew my scales like that :( damn.

[GuitarFeeling]

you can do more than use your feet to bank up and down and save them for sustain and expression pedal: you can select your sound directly from the GK-3 on your guitar.

The only bad thing is that you must save your sounds one after the other like on a multieffect just like the RP50, for example.

[benvye]

I'm considering buying one of these. Are there tracking problems? Is the pickup hard to mount on the guitar? (I have a PRS CE-24)

[GuitarFeeling]

look up in the old comments, friend... It's a sort of "vademecum" for who's willing to buy. I am not a Roland employee but however I was taken for. XD

[Gibsybeyondthunder]

I have heard of problems mounting them to carved or in PRS case figured tops before. But they apparently fit LP's pretty well so I guess the best thing to do it speak to a luthier or guitar Tech x

[benvye]

Actually I have since mounted the pickup between the bridge pickup and the bridge, and it works pretty good. The trick is to find the right combination between the pickup height and the sensitivity, which requires a bit of experimentation and patience. The PRS can be used with the GK3 pickup with good results. Thanks for your response.

[Gibsybeyondthunder]

well I am glad to hear of success =]

[fredzzzzzz]

dude, i loved your playing, wonderful specially the intro lead runs with pads in the background, so much soul and feel, u should make an instrumental like that....very nice, keep it up !!!

[GuitarFeeling]

Thanks a lot, man... it's not a bad idea, just have to find the time and a major label or it won't reach you... hehe.

Again, thanks... my heart bleeds reading you. :-D

[espiodrone]

new, about 700$

[GuitarFeeling]

yup... it's the right conversion, more or less.

[GuitarFeeling]

in Italy, about 550€ new. I bought it used for less then 300.

[ahmedsamy]

dude, it sounds like this real instruments??

because i'm planning to buy one :-)

nice video btw ;)

[GuitarFeeling]

nothing can do that in this world, not even for a billion dollars. But it's funny. ;-D

[bladerunner2358]

dude! seriously......buy one, just got mine last week, it is the best thing i have bought for my guitar. its a must have though! you'll thank your self

[GuitarFeeling]

the price is also honest, like a medium quality multieffect...

[Moog167]

Dude you wanna make me pick up a guitar....

[GuitarFeeling]

heheh nope, this is just for those who don't have a keyboard player always around in the studio. If I had one, I'd be more happy...

[reddracken]

I believe i am in heaven rite now! the first synth is so beautiful!

[GuitarFeeling]

^__________^

[sourpop1034]

do you have to have a separate amp for distortion or can you have the clean pedal sound along with the distortion lead on the same amp

[GuitarFeeling]

ok, now I'm at 7 times for the same answer I think... XD

Please, read below...

[sourpop1034]

theres nothing telling whether you have to have two amps or anything so how do you do it

[GuitarFeeling]

8 months ago: You don't have to plug your guitar directly on GR20, you can plug it to your pedals by jack cable and into the roland by 13 pins cable... two different connections, two amps required.

ivaneu (5 months ago): and then, everybody needs for play with the gr-20 TWO AMPS??

GuitarFeeling: not if you put everything on one amp (but you can't use the lead channel) or guitar into amp and GR20 straightly into a mixer... it's just as play with a guit and a keyboard together...

[sourpop1034]

well i dont have a mixer and i want to be able to use the lead channel along with the pedal so i need two amps one for the pedal one for lead right

[GuitarFeeling]

if your amp have also 2 inputs, you should put a distortion pedal between the guitar and one input and leave the other clean for the GR20... instead, if you like the amp's distortion, you have to put the GR20 into another.

[sourpop1034]

ok i have it now plug the gr20 sounds into one amp and the guitar output into a distortion one then put on mix and play

[BigBadGeetarDave]

In theory, would the Boss LS2 Line Selector do an OK job? That is the GR20 into say line A and the guitar into line B, then hook line B up to further effect pedals and let the LS2 do the mixing, with a mono output?

[GuitarFeeling]

a single mono amplifier for 3 channels is bad anyway, dude... ^_^

[ersemola]

hi friend. the roland gr20 has some latency? there are better modules, for example gr33 or axon ax100 mkII ?thx

[wesmatron]

Beautiful done, sir! ...and it's great to see a musician using technology rather than the technology using them.

[GuitarFeeling]

wow... thanks a lot!!!

[MarmoZets]

its good, but you have to have that big pack thing on the back of the guitar

[GuitarFeeling]

True, the only alternative is to buy a esaphonic guitar with that "thing" inside... like the Armas Mercury or the I-Morgan. For less then 200€ of difference from the normal model. But I have the second! hehe

[surfingRonman]

WOW... sweet!

[GuitarFeeling]

;-D

[GuitarFeeling]

Hold on, you all... I'm planning to do an instructional video for the GR20 with funny and cool examples. I just have to find the time...

[andysharifi]

The lag depends on how you install the pickup. if you have a pro install it right, you will have very good tracking when using the Gr-20's internal sounds only. It has annoying latency when connected to external synths, but thats why they made the Gr-20's internal sounds so good, so you don't have to use other synth boxes. If you record midi on a midi sequencer, you will have to do touch ups, but this is a very small price to pay since you don't have to learn keys. very worth it!!!

[yomms]

Hey, sweet video. I just got the GR-20 and I was wondering how you get that acoustic sound on it? I haven't managed to find it yet. Or is that sound coming from something else?

[GuitarFeeling]

It's a mix of three things: the GR20, the acoustic simulator of the GT6 pedalboard and the split coli of my Morgan V. ^_^

[GuitarFeeling]

split coil*

[postagb]

Did someoune try it playing with a bass-guitar (using gk3B instead of gk-3)?. Does it lag more than playing it with a guitar?

[GuitarFeeling]

Dunno man, I'm not a Roland Employeed... just a guy with a guitar... lol

[Insuperficialitzable]

Hi! What's the name of the classic piece? Thanks!

[GuitarFeeling]

Aria sulla Quarta Corda, J.S. Bach.

[Tacadoband]

ohyeah ok i get it

but is that mabye cues u have to do that sensitivity thing mabye

[GuitarFeeling]

Of course you have to set the sensivity and the distance between the PU and the strings: it's an Universal PU but guitars are not all the same. The radius, the action, the shape of the top...

[korean4arch]

hey im about to get the gr20 but i heard that it lags. is that true and how badly does it lag

[GuitarFeeling]

Mine doesn't... maybe one time, at the first start, but after the right setup of the Pickup, no lags.

[Tacadoband]

what do u mean by lags

[korean4arch]

like delay reactions. for example u hit a note and it plays maybe a sec or less than a sec later

[Filthyffs]

Is it connected with an adapter as a stompbox or do you need batteries for this pedal?

[GuitarFeeling]

both possibilities...

[ticail]

Great playing with a great toy. I have question... How does de gk-3 pickup stay in place ? Do you have to put some screws or something or it has some kind of tape thing that make it stays in place on the guitar ?

[GuitarFeeling]

Thanx a lot dude... inside the pack, there is some double-sided tape... but it works if ya play at home or for yourself... If ya play live on a stage and you move a lot, my hint is to put two screws on the instrument.

[ticail]

Ok thanks a lot ;)

[ivaneu]

it's don't suck your tone if you connect it with guitar pedals??

[GuitarFeeling]

I don't get it... can you explain?

[ivaneu]

well, i wonder if i connect the roland gr-20 and guitar pedals like ehx, boss, mxr, etc, the gr-20 can suck my tone?

Because my pedals are true by pass and the gr-20 i don't know.

Therefore i have this doubt if the gr-20 suck or change a bit my tone's guitar.

[GuitarFeeling]

You don't have to plug your guitar directly on GR20, you can plug it to your pedals by jack cable and into the roland by 13 pins cable... two different connections, two amps required...

[ivaneu]

and then, everybody needs for play with the gr-20 TWO AMPS??

[GuitarFeeling]

not if you put everything on one amp (but you can't use the lead channel) or guitar into amp and GR20 straightly into a mixer... it's just as play with a guit and a keyboard together...

[jrox5150]

great sounds, man! have you ever heard of the axon midi systems? the are unrivaled in terms of tracking speed and accuracy. was a former roland endorser until i tried the axon, it blew me away!

no joke, the axon will track and reproduce even the fastest licks you were playing with your lead tone, thats how good it is..

..not an employee or associate of any kind, just a happy customer, check em out!

[GuitarFeeling]

Never heard, it sounds new to me... Is it expensive more than the GR20?

I bought this one casually, two days before this clip I didn't even known it was really possible to play accurately with midi...

[jrox5150]

yeah, the in comparison they typically run about 100 US dollars or so more than the rolands. they have two seperate units like roland does, one has on board sounds and is considered their flagship model, the other is strictly for connecting to an external unit like a computer or stand-alone synth.

the price however is really nothing to be concerend about, for they are worth the extra cost.

imagine being able to play quick lead licks like you are here, but with midi! axon does it!

[PilferMusic]

Diggin it man... you're no Johnny Demarko... I'm I quite happy for that. ;)

Still impressed with the tracking... I've got the GR-300

[GuitarFeeling]

Heheh Johnny... always so proud to show us everything about Boss and Roland products.

You're right, I'm not Johnny... expecially because I haven't seen any money from Roland-Boss, but had to pay for my GR-20.

I can figure how the GR-300 works, if the 20 is so real... Maybe you can show me with a video? I'll be very happy...

[ryanmccz]

amazin

[StormDrive2]

very good!

[GuitarFeeling]

^_^

[metabog]

Do you go on to all of his videos and post the same stuff?

[GuitarFeeling]

Heh, I guess why...

[GuitarFeeling]

If criticing is done with politeness it's appriciated, elsewhere please save your time to study education.

[xatzkostas]

Hello. Great sound. Which patch at roland gr-20 is the first synth?

[GuitarFeeling]

I don't remember which preset I took, this is an User patch I modified myself... but I think you can find something that kind between strings patches...

[PKTO92]

OMG ur ash from supernatural!!

Anyway, really cool video.

[GuitarFeeling]

Hahahah! well, Ash is a cool smartass afterall...

[erictham7]

How did he switch so effortlessly between the synth and the guitar pickups? I thought there is a switch at the GK-3 pickup that we need to flick to switch...

[GuitarFeeling]

I have plugged my guitar into a GT-6 too, so I pick the chord with the GT6 volume down, then hold the chord on the GR20, up the gt6 and play... and all restarts on the second chord... ^_^

[erictham7]

I still don't quite get it, when you up the GT-6 volume, the signals are still being sent thru your GK-3, which means the synth should be triggered as well when you solo... why don't I hear the synth playing the same? :)

[painkillerhatecrew33]

bellissimo...penso ke lo prenderò...

[painkillerhatecrew33]

cmq complimenti 6 veramente bravissimo..

[GuitarFeeling]

Grazie mille... spero di poter fare altre clip presto, lavoro permettendo. ^_^

[piccoloprincipe78]

grande gabri!!!!

[GuitarFeeling]

Mille grazieeeee!

[xis333]

very well done! i been looking for demo videos of the GR20 just to see what REAL people can do with it,not sales folks...

[GuitarFeeling]

This is all true and... improvvised!

I just took some minutes to set up the sounds (really few minutes, it was new!) and immediately pick up my camera to record... I was too shaken to wait...

[MattiaSooIAooEklundH]

if the pick up (gk3) moves around and doesnt stay in place just put a tiny bit of blue tack - you know that stuff you put up posteres with, underneath the gk-3.

[GuitarFeeling]

It's really the first time I hear about it, I swear... heheh.

Interesting, however... It's late for my Morgan, but I don't really mind about two little gold screws that are pretty cool, at all...

[MattiaSooIAooEklundH]

no! you twat you dont drill into your guitar!

what dumbass told you that!?

it just clips onto your guitar!

bell-end!

[GuitarFeeling]

I tried that way, but it moves... we are surely talking about the pickup under the strings, not the wire-block...

[twittheshred]

what so i attully have to drill into my guitar. god fuck that.

[GuitarFeeling]

Not the only possible way, but the better.

[seraphonwingsoflead]

you can hold it in place with a little glue, it comes off easily, won't mess up your guitars finish, and works just as well.

[AkeJay02]

I have a GT-8, and am planning to get this pickup and the GR20 in a couple of days. How well do the two communicate with MIDI and otherwise?

[twittheshred]

im wanting to get the GR20 how do you attach the pickup?

[GuitarFeeling]

By two little gold screws, the prettiest way I found to be sure it rests blocked...

[GuitarFeeling]

Ah, sorry for my poor english here... :P

[GuitarFeeling]

Absoluteli not... it's controlled by the GK-3 itself, with an up-down selector on board... and of course by Midi-cable from another pedalboard like the GT-6 or GT-8, programming the 99 user sounds (easy, trust me... ^_^)

The only problem is that you MUST do two little holes in your guitar, 'cause it doesn't work well with adesive only...

[czt1dave]

Dude, this is awesome! Is the GR20 complicated to operate?