this what the American Dream is based on? people losing thier jobs because some stupid ass Mexicans cant speaks Ingles? well i got something to say..... fuck you spics!!! go back to Mexico and your other drug based countries. this country was made for English speaking people only. you have taken jobs away from hard working Americans. maybe they should let you be firefighters so you can die in a fire. that would be one less fried bean to worry about.
@IR305 wow! and the winner for the dumbest remark i have heard today goes to you for being a dumb fuck. i think your mother has dropped one to many times and i believe you need to get a check up or get off of youtube.
@IR305 im not racist. you are. i am sick of having every american having to accommodate your sorry ass race because you and everyone in your ethnic group are either too stupid or lazy to learn english. many HARD WORKING americans have lost their jobs because you douche bags. this is AMerica and you need to speak english and learn to accept ur culture. im not an idiot. i work while going to college to make a decent life for myself. so get off welfare and do something for once in your life.
@IR305 at least i can insult people unlike you who just calls me a "fucking idiot" all the time. your just showing me that you dont have any comebacks. your offended by the truth. When someone speaks for people who are being laid off because they cannot speak Spanish is a crime and you should be ashamed. This is America and they need to speak English. Fuck you and your retarded family
Our Founding Fathers encouraged immigrants to learn English and assimilate (as in honor, recognize) into American culture. Our Founding Fathers would be appalled by all the illegal immigrants flooding this country and breaking up the sovereignty of this nation. The only reason that English is not the official language of this country is because of politically correct douchebags and stubborn, ignorant immigrants such as yourself. Even if my numbers were a little off the point remains the same.
@ClairvoyantDreamer29 Thomas Jefferson was the ambassador to france, and you can bet many more were bi and multilingual. The reason English isn't the Official language IS BECAUSE OF OUR FOREFATHERS U IDIOT. and no you're wrong our forefathers wouldn't care who came, it doesn't matter where your born or what color u are it's the pursuit of happiness that makes all Americans, and thew want for a better life that makes us Americans. You're just a racist, why not just make them legal?
If you lost your job to an Immigrant who barely speak English, you're probably a dumbass!
You say"THEY TOOK OUR JOBS". We say"YES, WE WORK HARDER AND SMARTER". You say"OUR GOVERNMENT IS MESSED UP". We say "THIS IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD". You say "SPEAK ENGLISH". We say "WE SPEAK MULTIPLE LANGUAGES".
You think this is bad? Wait 10 years and see how we will just straight up dominate this country. We will sodomize every "natives" in this country while making you speak our languages.
he shouldn't be fired... yeah, y don't they learn english...i'm having to learn spanish cuz of them. here. in an english country. i would rather speak german, but apparently i'd get fired for that.
AHAHAHA I DNT SEE HOW SHE CAN STAND UR STUPID PENDEJO ASS N TRUE I GUESS MOST OF US DO CUT UR GRASS N PICK UR FRUIT BUT W/OUT US YALL WOULDNT B SHIT YALL WOULDNT DO SHIT
N YALL'D SURE AS FUCK MISS OUR FUCKIN FOOD
O YEA N IF USA IS SO FUCKIN WONERFUL Y DA FUCK GRINGOS GO OVER DER TO SPEND VACATIONS BUT WE DNT SAY SHIT BOUT IT BUT W/E GO TO HELL WE AINT GOIN
Aw geez, I'd like to, but, Mexican pickles are just too small and covered in warts. I guess if my mother gave me warts as bad as she gave them to you, I'd be pretty pissed too. Oh, and tell your sister thanks for for the dirty sanchez.
Mexicans like you deserve to pick my fruit and cut my grass. My wife is Mexican, you idiot. You come here, you learn the language or go back. If being Mexican is so great, why do so many come to the states and leave wonderful Mexico? Now, go get me a cerveza, you pickle licker.
Americans are getting so fat they can't see there toes let alone pick there fruit.Your missing the point the point is you can't do work that actually requires physical labor.Learn spanish cause most worker are now mexicans, never mind most stuff already comes in both English and Spanish whats the point right.
THEY SHOULD LEARN ENGLISH!!! Its A.M.E.R.I.C.A not Mexico!!!! If theres a something bad going on and one of them come up and start talking spanish to someone who ONLY speaks English then they would prob get hurt of killed cuz they have NO idea wut there saying. JUST THINK!!! Do u want a loved one to get killed cuz they had no IDEA wut they were saying!?.
Mexico actually is in America so what you mean is "its U.N.I.T.E.D. S.T.A.T.E.S O.F A.M.E.R.I.C.A. and I don't think someone would kill someone just because he doesn't undertand what someone is telling him.
But ,yes, we are here and we have to learn your language.
The it's AMERICA "learn english" bullshit just doesn't hack it. Because it's AMERICA, do you speak an American Language? OF COURSE NOT!!! You only speak a European language. There is a good reason why "english" has not and will not be an official language. Until then English is just another European language spoken in the USA. 51 million people in the USA speak spanish, If those supervisers would have taken the time to learn Spanish they would be working right now. Bitch all you want.
English is the UNIVERSAL language of the WORLD!!! Don't believe me? Look it up. In Europe it is taught in school as a second language. Have you ever noticed the many signs in other countries like China, Russia, etc. displayed in English? Theres a reason they are not in Spanish-because Spanish is NOT the universal language of the world-ENGLISH is!!! Besides that, it's just common fucking sense and common courtesy to learn the language of the country that YOU decided to move to, not vice versa.
so if I decide to move to the United Staes whic language should I learn. O'dham? Yoreme? Kikapu?Kumiakai?Navaho? Those are some American languages. Do European settlers know any? did they try and learn any when they settled here? It's common courtesy right? Or Europeans weren't so courteous? The language of the land,the common language in many places in the US is Spanish. You can choose to not learn it and bitch and whine or you can learn the future US language.
"The United States does not have an official language; however, the majority of the population speaks English as a native language (some 82%)...96% of the population of the U.S. speaks English "well" or "very well".[3] There have been several proposals to make English the national language in amendments to immigration reform bills." <<<this is from Wikipedia. Heres another excerpt Spanish is the second most common language in the country, and is spoken by over 12% of the population"
By the way, I only saw ONE of your languages listed on there...and it was a very small amount. Its obvious you dont know very much about this country, or the common languages spoken in it. So, TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION Americans speak ENGLISH as opposed to the piddly 28 million Spanish speakers. So, I would suggest that you and the other ignorant, lazy disrespectful 12% get with the fucking program and learn the predominant language of OUR country because it will never be Spanish.
And your argument hold absolutely NO WEIGHT whatsoever! Why are you referring to what our European ancestors did or did not do HUNDREDS of years ago? Why dont you stop focusing on what our ancestors did a long time ago (which none of of had shit to do with; we werent there!) and concentrate on the problems you guys are causing in the everyday lives of Americans simply because you REFUSE to learn our language. I see no reason why WE should have to learn yours; YOU people moved HERE so LEARN.
So, about ten years ago I worked at a convenience store. Mexicans would come in constantly to buy stuff but they spoke so little English that they were reduced to pointing to items behind the counter and then hoping one of our ENGLISH speaking workers could figure out what the fuck they wanted. So, I guess I should learn Spanish because you guys cant even learn enough English to pick out what brand of cigarettes you want, right? WRONG. You are an ignorant jagoff if you think that is acceptable.
The fact of the matter is that Mexicans would solve a lot of problems and gain a lot more respect if they just took the time to actually learn the English language. What makes you think that it is ok to sneak illegally into this country in droves, and then refuse to learn the predominant language of this country? What makes you think that the people of this country that YOU decided to move to should be forced to learn YOUR language? YOU moved HERE; The burden of responsibilty is on YOU, not US.
illegal immigration is a complex issue, it's about an illegal european settler group that fears another settler group(mexicans).Nobody forces you to learn spanish just like nobody should force mexicans to learn english, it is common sense for both groups to learn each others language. Only those who have complexes complain about such an issue. Immigrants don't refuse to use another language, you do refuse to be tolerant.
OMG!!! Yea, my "complex" was created in having to deal DAILY with the stubborn ignorance of Mexicans who refuse to learn OUR language...stubborn ignorance that made not just mine but the lives of many other of my friends and family; LEGAL citizens who were born in this country. I can tell you that you are the one with common sense problems. If I were to move to Germany; I would learn German. Italy? Italian. France? French. Yes; it's called "ASSIMILATION"...ever heard of it?
Listen if you are a worker or better yet an owner of a store , you want to sell. If your customers speak a certain language you cater to that language . That is what all name brands do. Not to do so is a bad business practice. So you have shown your incompetence as a worker and your willingness to continue being incompetent. Your convenience store example has won the stupidass of the year award!!!
And I can tell you right now that I am not in the minority when it comes to these opinions. The truth is glaringly obvious. If you dont have enough respect to assimilate to the American culture, even just by learning the language at least, than you have no business being here. To be direct, you and all Mexicans who "think" like you can just get the fuck out and stay out: GOOD RIDDANCE. I have no problem with respectful and intelligent Mexican citizens of this country; its people like YOU I hate.
OH, and BTW, if my boss had deemed it a worthy cause I am sure he would have made it a requirement to be bi-lingual at that job. He hold the same opinion as MANY other Americans: that the obligation is YOURS, not OURS. I guess he must have really believed that you guys should learn the fucking English language because we were allowed to refuse to wait on the people who couldnt speak enough English to ask for what they wanted...so they didnt hold up the fucking line of ENGLISH speaking people!!!
Guess he figured he's cut his losses just so that you people would understand the importance of learning the predominant language of the United States of America...not the United States of Mexico!!!
But you sound like such a goddamned fucking idiot I don't know why I'm even wasting my time trying to rationalize with you. Even the most obvious truths need to be spelled out for you, but I am not your mommy or your teacher so I guess you are on your own in trying to figure out what millions upon millions of Americans already realize. GOOD_BYE!!!
The energy that you have wasted here could have better been applied in learning the language that makes you so angry. Why? because you are LAZY, INTOLERANT, IGNORANT and let's not forget NOSY(you want to overhear other peoples private conversation). Don't worry about other people learning English, If they don't, it's in their detriment. Do worry about bettering yourself by understanding the new settler group which you will have to live with. Not doing so is in your personal detriment.
What the hell makes you think we give a shit about your personal conversations? Please, dont flatter yourself. Dont get mad at me because you guys have a problem with the concept of assimilation. What you should do is stop begging us to learn your language and cater to YOU. Why dont you do like every other self-respecting immigrant does and learn the predominant language of the country you decide to settle in? If it were just, say, 500, 000 of you here it would not be an issue.
But there are millions upon millions of you guys flocking over here. NOBODY fucking asked you to be here. The fact that you want to move here but do not do what is necessary to function inside the culture in which you CHOOSE to live is not, and should not be, OUR fucking problem. So WHY do you expect us to suddenly convert to YOUR language? Stop using the much smaller minority of people who speak languages other than English as an excuse for the MILLIONS of you guys not learning English. WTF
The fact that there are so many of you guys over here breaking our laws and using up our resources, and absolutely REFUSING to learn even BASIC English does NOT make us feel compelled to learn YOUR language WHATSOEVER. We dont want to learn your language because we feel that if you are going to come over here and shit on our country and cause us all kinds of problems the LEAST you can do is learn OUR GODDAMNED language. I dont understand how you can be so fucking DAFT as to not comprehend this.
"The fact that there are so many of you guys over here breaking our laws and using up our resources". Now we can establish the real problem. It's not the spanish language that bothers you so much, but your inability to control the influx of the new settler group. They cause FEAR in you. You mention their numbers and reiterate the real issue that bothers you. The new settler group as a whole bothers you, you feel frustrated, impotent and see your country seeping thru their hands.
Yes, a huge group of lawless, parasitic disrespectful people flooding this country does cause fear AND anger in me and countless other Americans. And your fucking point is what? You are just helping my argument. Shall I read you the names of all your wonderful brethren in my local police blotter now? Before you can even attempt to "establish" the real problem (which Ive already said is glaringly obvious) maybe you should work on establishing some semblence of logic in your twisted, biased mind.
And if you really had any respect for this country at all you would quit defending those of your brethren who refuse to take personal responsiblity by refusing to learn the language of this country that youve decided to settle in. Its obvious that you, yourself, was concientous enough to learn so why undermine your own values by promoting the bad values in others?
And how the fuck would you feel if you lived in Mexico and millions of foreigners came to your homeplace, overwhelmed your resources, broke your laws and then threw up their middle fingers and gave you a big "FUCK YOU" by forcing you to learn THEIR language, on top of it all. If you say you'd be ok with that you are full of shit, plain and simple. SO dont expect us to be.
"WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? ANY FUCKING QUESTIONS??? " Yeah, where do you get those figures? There are 51 million spanish speakers in this country, that's !/6 of the population,not 6%.
Anyways what does that have to do with anything?
Why do you say they refuse to speak english? If they know how they will do it when they have to. Unlkess they don't know how. They prefer to speak spanish over english, OF COURSE!!!
@coltzin12 I deleted some of my replies to you because I felt that they came off as a little too harsh. I don't want to be mistakenly thought of as a "racist"...which I am NOT. (Check out my acct. on here; I am NOT a racist!) I have dated a couple of Mexicans; I have nothing against your culture; I actually like many aspects of it. All I am saying is that if you are going to come over here in the millions please obey our laws and make an attempt to learn English. Is that asking for so much?
My friends and family, and pretty much every other American I know are in agreement that if we invaded another country some 30 million strong that we would obviously learn the predominant language of that country. So, what makes you guys so special that you feel you should not have to do the same. What makes your culture, and your language so fucking special that over TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION PEOPLE should have to convert to speaking YOUR native tongue???? YOU GUYS ARE NOT SPECIAL.
I don't get angry at anyone speaking another language. Language is for communication. Whether it be in signs or drawings or mimicking I don't care. I don't want a language imposed on anyone. Normal people learn to communicate in whatever language they need to communicate. Those that don't learn the languages common in their surroundings lose out.. Nobody is begging you to learn spanish, if you and viceversa they want to continue ignorant it's all your choices. NO IMPOSITION. GET OVER IT!
I dont get angry at people for speaking a foreign language. I get angry at a VERY LARGE, intrusive group of people who move to the country where I was born and raised and (whether intentionally or not) impose their language upon me by their sheer refusal to learn the language that is used by NINETY-FOUR PERCENT of this country! "Nobody is forcing you to learn Spanish" Thats why all these fire-fighters lost their fucking jobs because they didnt cater to your willful ignorance by learning Spanish.
They don't impose the language on you. But you being INTOLERANT want to impose a language on another person. Has it ever occured to you that the founders of this country didn't want 1 language and all attempts at making English the official language have failed because of that?
The issue is that you are ANGRY not because of a language issue but because of an IMMIGRANT issue. Language has absolutely nothing to do with your anger. It is seeing people who you personally don't approve walk around
@coltzin12 Nobody is asking you to speak ONLY English....but I think you should at least know enough basic English to be able to work and function in our society without causing all kinds of problems because of the language barrier. You cant realistically expect everyone to learn Spanish at every job you work at, every store you go into, etc. That just doesnt make sense! The reality is that you are pretty much surrounded by people who speak English so wouldnt it make sense to try to learn it?
I respect your views, I'm picking your brain and usually I'm a dick to those I think are just racist, so let me take back any harsh remarks on my behalf.
Heres a great article I found on the University of S. Carolina website: One 29-year-old man from Veracruz, one of four states in Mexico from which immigrants originated (the others are Oaxaca, Hidalgo and Puebla), offered this representative comment:
I was obligated to speak your language. I am here. ... I am the one who has to speak your language. How did I learn it? I learned it by studying the dictionary, time passed and I learned little by little. Long live REAL common sense!!!
All I can say is, thank GOD there are immigrants who actually have enough common sense and respect to understand why THEY should have to learn the predominant language of the country that THEY moved to. DUH! Unfortunately, sir, you are not one of them. Give me one fucking good reason why someone would move to a country and not even bother to learn even the very BASICS of that countries predominant language? Not even enough to be able to make a purchase at a convenience store?
You dont have a reason. I am not an incompetent worker. You are simply an ignorant, lazy stubborn piece of shit who is giving all Mexicans a bad reputation by refusing to assimilate to our culture, even a little. You have no comprehension of the meaning of respect and obligation, obviously. You come over here illegally in DROVES and expect us to cater to your and laziness and insolence. WHY? You are filling up our prisons, sucking up our resources and have a bad fucking attitude to top it off.
In "Right to work states" unions are weakened by these laws, wages are lowered and worker safety and health is endangered. Statistics from the United States Department of Labor show that in 2003 the rate of workplace fatalities per 100,000 workers was highest in right-to-work states. Nineteen of the top 25 states for worker fatality rates were right to work states, while 3 of the bottom 25 states were right-to-work states. It says "you're expendable" to big business and local gov't. No thanks.
No-wonder Oregon is as backward as it is! I am a transplant from Michigan and I am amazed how Oregon backs down to immigrants. Before you attack me know this, I have lived in California, Arizona, Washington, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, and Oregon. This bullshit of requiring a U.S. Citizen to speak something other than the United State's formal language is a result of poor leadership. Go to France and try to require the same thing. Fuckin liberal's!
Why should firefighters or ANY citizen of the United States of America be required to speak ANY language other than English? Immigrants need to adapt to OUR culture and language, not the other way around. You better learn Swahili pal before you piss someone off!
What makes Spanish more foreign to the US than English? They're both European, its not like Spanish is South American language.
After all the country was discovered by a Spaniard
astalivista121 5 months ago
Imagine the grease fire if Jose caught on fire.
HateGovernment 6 months ago
this what the American Dream is based on? people losing thier jobs because some stupid ass Mexicans cant speaks Ingles? well i got something to say..... fuck you spics!!! go back to Mexico and your other drug based countries. this country was made for English speaking people only. you have taken jobs away from hard working Americans. maybe they should let you be firefighters so you can die in a fire. that would be one less fried bean to worry about.
historyboy08 7 months ago
@historyboy08 you're a fucking idiot.
IR305 4 months ago
@IR305 wow! and the winner for the dumbest remark i have heard today goes to you for being a dumb fuck. i think your mother has dropped one to many times and i believe you need to get a check up or get off of youtube.
historyboy08 4 months ago
@historyboy08 Aw, cute insults there, you racist bitch. You're still a fucking idiot.
IR305 4 months ago
@IR305 im not racist. you are. i am sick of having every american having to accommodate your sorry ass race because you and everyone in your ethnic group are either too stupid or lazy to learn english. many HARD WORKING americans have lost their jobs because you douche bags. this is AMerica and you need to speak english and learn to accept ur culture. im not an idiot. i work while going to college to make a decent life for myself. so get off welfare and do something for once in your life.
historyboy08 4 months ago
@IR305 at least i can insult people unlike you who just calls me a "fucking idiot" all the time. your just showing me that you dont have any comebacks. your offended by the truth. When someone speaks for people who are being laid off because they cannot speak Spanish is a crime and you should be ashamed. This is America and they need to speak English. Fuck you and your retarded family
historyboy08 4 months ago
@historyboy08 ...you mad bro?
IR305 4 months ago
That's fucking shocking. How about getting the cunts to learn English when they're living in a english speaking country?
Charlcunt 10 months ago
@Charlcunt that's cuz this the U.S...a country built by immigrants for immigrants... there's no official language maybe most spoken?
jay1jayf 7 months ago
HAHAHA
da1ndonly4life 1 year ago
Our Founding Fathers encouraged immigrants to learn English and assimilate (as in honor, recognize) into American culture. Our Founding Fathers would be appalled by all the illegal immigrants flooding this country and breaking up the sovereignty of this nation. The only reason that English is not the official language of this country is because of politically correct douchebags and stubborn, ignorant immigrants such as yourself. Even if my numbers were a little off the point remains the same.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
Amen.
michiganfireman 1 year ago
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciated my viewpoints even though I am so "INTOLERANT"....(eyes rolling), LOL!!!
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
@ClairvoyantDreamer29 Thomas Jefferson was the ambassador to france, and you can bet many more were bi and multilingual. The reason English isn't the Official language IS BECAUSE OF OUR FOREFATHERS U IDIOT. and no you're wrong our forefathers wouldn't care who came, it doesn't matter where your born or what color u are it's the pursuit of happiness that makes all Americans, and thew want for a better life that makes us Americans. You're just a racist, why not just make them legal?
juslikejesus 8 months ago
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If you lost your job to an Immigrant who barely speak English, you're probably a dumbass!
You say"THEY TOOK OUR JOBS". We say"YES, WE WORK HARDER AND SMARTER". You say"OUR GOVERNMENT IS MESSED UP". We say "THIS IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD". You say "SPEAK ENGLISH". We say "WE SPEAK MULTIPLE LANGUAGES".
You think this is bad? Wait 10 years and see how we will just straight up dominate this country. We will sodomize every "natives" in this country while making you speak our languages.
SpamTheForum 2 years ago
Dumb
joshhg93 2 years ago
he shouldn't be fired... yeah, y don't they learn english...i'm having to learn spanish cuz of them. here. in an english country. i would rather speak german, but apparently i'd get fired for that.
shmoofoobean44 2 years ago
Jawohl!
michiganfireman 2 years ago
@shmoofoobean44 actually that's because u chose to have the job you chose
juslikejesus 8 months ago
how hard could it be?"stop the hot stuff from getting bigger".now teach them that and give our jobs back to americans.
basszack 2 years ago
wtf UR MARRID TO A MEXICAN ???
AHAHAHA I DNT SEE HOW SHE CAN STAND UR STUPID PENDEJO ASS N TRUE I GUESS MOST OF US DO CUT UR GRASS N PICK UR FRUIT BUT W/OUT US YALL WOULDNT B SHIT YALL WOULDNT DO SHIT
N YALL'D SURE AS FUCK MISS OUR FUCKIN FOOD
O YEA N IF USA IS SO FUCKIN WONERFUL Y DA FUCK GRINGOS GO OVER DER TO SPEND VACATIONS BUT WE DNT SAY SHIT BOUT IT BUT W/E GO TO HELL WE AINT GOIN
NO WHERE!!!
SO U MITE A WELL GET USED TO US HAHA
SUCKS DNT IT! ..LOL..LICK ON DAT PICKLE BITCHHHH
greciaruby 3 years ago
Aw geez, I'd like to, but, Mexican pickles are just too small and covered in warts. I guess if my mother gave me warts as bad as she gave them to you, I'd be pretty pissed too. Oh, and tell your sister thanks for for the dirty sanchez.
michiganfireman 3 years ago
then i guess you are the toilet, redneck
gualo21 3 years ago
Cause americans are fat ,lazy and will have a heart attack if they actually do some physical work.Thats why Mexicans are there.
"Shut the hell up cause thats the truth"
VIEW8472 3 years ago
Mexicans like you deserve to pick my fruit and cut my grass. My wife is Mexican, you idiot. You come here, you learn the language or go back. If being Mexican is so great, why do so many come to the states and leave wonderful Mexico? Now, go get me a cerveza, you pickle licker.
michiganfireman 3 years ago
Americans are getting so fat they can't see there toes let alone pick there fruit.Your missing the point the point is you can't do work that actually requires physical labor.Learn spanish cause most worker are now mexicans, never mind most stuff already comes in both English and Spanish whats the point right.
VIEW8472 3 years ago
yo me follo a tu mujer
kaikovich 2 years ago
What do you do for a living? Hmm?
michiganfireman 3 years ago
THEY SHOULD LEARN ENGLISH!!! Its A.M.E.R.I.C.A not Mexico!!!! If theres a something bad going on and one of them come up and start talking spanish to someone who ONLY speaks English then they would prob get hurt of killed cuz they have NO idea wut there saying. JUST THINK!!! Do u want a loved one to get killed cuz they had no IDEA wut they were saying!?.
BriannaG96 3 years ago
I agree, anybody who comes here should learn english, but it doesn't take an english course to know what fire and a cry for help is does it?
fearthenoise 3 years ago
Mexico actually is in America so what you mean is "its U.N.I.T.E.D. S.T.A.T.E.S O.F A.M.E.R.I.C.A. and I don't think someone would kill someone just because he doesn't undertand what someone is telling him.
But ,yes, we are here and we have to learn your language.
gualo21 3 years ago
The it's AMERICA "learn english" bullshit just doesn't hack it. Because it's AMERICA, do you speak an American Language? OF COURSE NOT!!! You only speak a European language. There is a good reason why "english" has not and will not be an official language. Until then English is just another European language spoken in the USA. 51 million people in the USA speak spanish, If those supervisers would have taken the time to learn Spanish they would be working right now. Bitch all you want.
coltzin12 2 years ago
English is the UNIVERSAL language of the WORLD!!! Don't believe me? Look it up. In Europe it is taught in school as a second language. Have you ever noticed the many signs in other countries like China, Russia, etc. displayed in English? Theres a reason they are not in Spanish-because Spanish is NOT the universal language of the world-ENGLISH is!!! Besides that, it's just common fucking sense and common courtesy to learn the language of the country that YOU decided to move to, not vice versa.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
so if I decide to move to the United Staes whic language should I learn. O'dham? Yoreme? Kikapu?Kumiakai?Navaho? Those are some American languages. Do European settlers know any? did they try and learn any when they settled here? It's common courtesy right? Or Europeans weren't so courteous? The language of the land,the common language in many places in the US is Spanish. You can choose to not learn it and bitch and whine or you can learn the future US language.
coltzin12 1 year ago
"The United States does not have an official language; however, the majority of the population speaks English as a native language (some 82%)...96% of the population of the U.S. speaks English "well" or "very well".[3] There have been several proposals to make English the national language in amendments to immigration reform bills." <<<this is from Wikipedia. Heres another excerpt Spanish is the second most common language in the country, and is spoken by over 12% of the population"
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
By the way, I only saw ONE of your languages listed on there...and it was a very small amount. Its obvious you dont know very much about this country, or the common languages spoken in it. So, TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION Americans speak ENGLISH as opposed to the piddly 28 million Spanish speakers. So, I would suggest that you and the other ignorant, lazy disrespectful 12% get with the fucking program and learn the predominant language of OUR country because it will never be Spanish.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
And your argument hold absolutely NO WEIGHT whatsoever! Why are you referring to what our European ancestors did or did not do HUNDREDS of years ago? Why dont you stop focusing on what our ancestors did a long time ago (which none of of had shit to do with; we werent there!) and concentrate on the problems you guys are causing in the everyday lives of Americans simply because you REFUSE to learn our language. I see no reason why WE should have to learn yours; YOU people moved HERE so LEARN.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
So, about ten years ago I worked at a convenience store. Mexicans would come in constantly to buy stuff but they spoke so little English that they were reduced to pointing to items behind the counter and then hoping one of our ENGLISH speaking workers could figure out what the fuck they wanted. So, I guess I should learn Spanish because you guys cant even learn enough English to pick out what brand of cigarettes you want, right? WRONG. You are an ignorant jagoff if you think that is acceptable.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
The fact of the matter is that Mexicans would solve a lot of problems and gain a lot more respect if they just took the time to actually learn the English language. What makes you think that it is ok to sneak illegally into this country in droves, and then refuse to learn the predominant language of this country? What makes you think that the people of this country that YOU decided to move to should be forced to learn YOUR language? YOU moved HERE; The burden of responsibilty is on YOU, not US.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
illegal immigration is a complex issue, it's about an illegal european settler group that fears another settler group(mexicans).Nobody forces you to learn spanish just like nobody should force mexicans to learn english, it is common sense for both groups to learn each others language. Only those who have complexes complain about such an issue. Immigrants don't refuse to use another language, you do refuse to be tolerant.
coltzin12 1 year ago
OMG!!! Yea, my "complex" was created in having to deal DAILY with the stubborn ignorance of Mexicans who refuse to learn OUR language...stubborn ignorance that made not just mine but the lives of many other of my friends and family; LEGAL citizens who were born in this country. I can tell you that you are the one with common sense problems. If I were to move to Germany; I would learn German. Italy? Italian. France? French. Yes; it's called "ASSIMILATION"...ever heard of it?
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
Listen if you are a worker or better yet an owner of a store , you want to sell. If your customers speak a certain language you cater to that language . That is what all name brands do. Not to do so is a bad business practice. So you have shown your incompetence as a worker and your willingness to continue being incompetent. Your convenience store example has won the stupidass of the year award!!!
coltzin12 1 year ago
And I can tell you right now that I am not in the minority when it comes to these opinions. The truth is glaringly obvious. If you dont have enough respect to assimilate to the American culture, even just by learning the language at least, than you have no business being here. To be direct, you and all Mexicans who "think" like you can just get the fuck out and stay out: GOOD RIDDANCE. I have no problem with respectful and intelligent Mexican citizens of this country; its people like YOU I hate.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
OH, and BTW, if my boss had deemed it a worthy cause I am sure he would have made it a requirement to be bi-lingual at that job. He hold the same opinion as MANY other Americans: that the obligation is YOURS, not OURS. I guess he must have really believed that you guys should learn the fucking English language because we were allowed to refuse to wait on the people who couldnt speak enough English to ask for what they wanted...so they didnt hold up the fucking line of ENGLISH speaking people!!!
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
Guess he figured he's cut his losses just so that you people would understand the importance of learning the predominant language of the United States of America...not the United States of Mexico!!!
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
But you sound like such a goddamned fucking idiot I don't know why I'm even wasting my time trying to rationalize with you. Even the most obvious truths need to be spelled out for you, but I am not your mommy or your teacher so I guess you are on your own in trying to figure out what millions upon millions of Americans already realize. GOOD_BYE!!!
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
The energy that you have wasted here could have better been applied in learning the language that makes you so angry. Why? because you are LAZY, INTOLERANT, IGNORANT and let's not forget NOSY(you want to overhear other peoples private conversation). Don't worry about other people learning English, If they don't, it's in their detriment. Do worry about bettering yourself by understanding the new settler group which you will have to live with. Not doing so is in your personal detriment.
coltzin12 1 year ago
What the hell makes you think we give a shit about your personal conversations? Please, dont flatter yourself. Dont get mad at me because you guys have a problem with the concept of assimilation. What you should do is stop begging us to learn your language and cater to YOU. Why dont you do like every other self-respecting immigrant does and learn the predominant language of the country you decide to settle in? If it were just, say, 500, 000 of you here it would not be an issue.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
But there are millions upon millions of you guys flocking over here. NOBODY fucking asked you to be here. The fact that you want to move here but do not do what is necessary to function inside the culture in which you CHOOSE to live is not, and should not be, OUR fucking problem. So WHY do you expect us to suddenly convert to YOUR language? Stop using the much smaller minority of people who speak languages other than English as an excuse for the MILLIONS of you guys not learning English. WTF
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
The fact that there are so many of you guys over here breaking our laws and using up our resources, and absolutely REFUSING to learn even BASIC English does NOT make us feel compelled to learn YOUR language WHATSOEVER. We dont want to learn your language because we feel that if you are going to come over here and shit on our country and cause us all kinds of problems the LEAST you can do is learn OUR GODDAMNED language. I dont understand how you can be so fucking DAFT as to not comprehend this.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
"The fact that there are so many of you guys over here breaking our laws and using up our resources". Now we can establish the real problem. It's not the spanish language that bothers you so much, but your inability to control the influx of the new settler group. They cause FEAR in you. You mention their numbers and reiterate the real issue that bothers you. The new settler group as a whole bothers you, you feel frustrated, impotent and see your country seeping thru their hands.
coltzin12 1 year ago
Yes, a huge group of lawless, parasitic disrespectful people flooding this country does cause fear AND anger in me and countless other Americans. And your fucking point is what? You are just helping my argument. Shall I read you the names of all your wonderful brethren in my local police blotter now? Before you can even attempt to "establish" the real problem (which Ive already said is glaringly obvious) maybe you should work on establishing some semblence of logic in your twisted, biased mind.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
And if you really had any respect for this country at all you would quit defending those of your brethren who refuse to take personal responsiblity by refusing to learn the language of this country that youve decided to settle in. Its obvious that you, yourself, was concientous enough to learn so why undermine your own values by promoting the bad values in others?
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
And how the fuck would you feel if you lived in Mexico and millions of foreigners came to your homeplace, overwhelmed your resources, broke your laws and then threw up their middle fingers and gave you a big "FUCK YOU" by forcing you to learn THEIR language, on top of it all. If you say you'd be ok with that you are full of shit, plain and simple. SO dont expect us to be.
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ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
"WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? ANY FUCKING QUESTIONS??? " Yeah, where do you get those figures? There are 51 million spanish speakers in this country, that's !/6 of the population,not 6%.
Anyways what does that have to do with anything?
Why do you say they refuse to speak english? If they know how they will do it when they have to. Unlkess they don't know how. They prefer to speak spanish over english, OF COURSE!!!
Want another question? I got lots?
coltzin12 1 year ago
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ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
@coltzin12 I deleted some of my replies to you because I felt that they came off as a little too harsh. I don't want to be mistakenly thought of as a "racist"...which I am NOT. (Check out my acct. on here; I am NOT a racist!) I have dated a couple of Mexicans; I have nothing against your culture; I actually like many aspects of it. All I am saying is that if you are going to come over here in the millions please obey our laws and make an attempt to learn English. Is that asking for so much?
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ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
My friends and family, and pretty much every other American I know are in agreement that if we invaded another country some 30 million strong that we would obviously learn the predominant language of that country. So, what makes you guys so special that you feel you should not have to do the same. What makes your culture, and your language so fucking special that over TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION PEOPLE should have to convert to speaking YOUR native tongue???? YOU GUYS ARE NOT SPECIAL.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
I don't get angry at anyone speaking another language. Language is for communication. Whether it be in signs or drawings or mimicking I don't care. I don't want a language imposed on anyone. Normal people learn to communicate in whatever language they need to communicate. Those that don't learn the languages common in their surroundings lose out.. Nobody is begging you to learn spanish, if you and viceversa they want to continue ignorant it's all your choices. NO IMPOSITION. GET OVER IT!
coltzin12 1 year ago
I dont get angry at people for speaking a foreign language. I get angry at a VERY LARGE, intrusive group of people who move to the country where I was born and raised and (whether intentionally or not) impose their language upon me by their sheer refusal to learn the language that is used by NINETY-FOUR PERCENT of this country! "Nobody is forcing you to learn Spanish" Thats why all these fire-fighters lost their fucking jobs because they didnt cater to your willful ignorance by learning Spanish.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
They don't impose the language on you. But you being INTOLERANT want to impose a language on another person. Has it ever occured to you that the founders of this country didn't want 1 language and all attempts at making English the official language have failed because of that?
The issue is that you are ANGRY not because of a language issue but because of an IMMIGRANT issue. Language has absolutely nothing to do with your anger. It is seeing people who you personally don't approve walk around
coltzin12 1 year ago
@coltzin12 Nobody is asking you to speak ONLY English....but I think you should at least know enough basic English to be able to work and function in our society without causing all kinds of problems because of the language barrier. You cant realistically expect everyone to learn Spanish at every job you work at, every store you go into, etc. That just doesnt make sense! The reality is that you are pretty much surrounded by people who speak English so wouldnt it make sense to try to learn it?
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
I respect your views, I'm picking your brain and usually I'm a dick to those I think are just racist, so let me take back any harsh remarks on my behalf.
coltzin12 1 year ago
Heres a great article I found on the University of S. Carolina website: One 29-year-old man from Veracruz, one of four states in Mexico from which immigrants originated (the others are Oaxaca, Hidalgo and Puebla), offered this representative comment:
I was obligated to speak your language. I am here. ... I am the one who has to speak your language. How did I learn it? I learned it by studying the dictionary, time passed and I learned little by little. Long live REAL common sense!!!
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
All I can say is, thank GOD there are immigrants who actually have enough common sense and respect to understand why THEY should have to learn the predominant language of the country that THEY moved to. DUH! Unfortunately, sir, you are not one of them. Give me one fucking good reason why someone would move to a country and not even bother to learn even the very BASICS of that countries predominant language? Not even enough to be able to make a purchase at a convenience store?
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
You dont have a reason. I am not an incompetent worker. You are simply an ignorant, lazy stubborn piece of shit who is giving all Mexicans a bad reputation by refusing to assimilate to our culture, even a little. You have no comprehension of the meaning of respect and obligation, obviously. You come over here illegally in DROVES and expect us to cater to your and laziness and insolence. WHY? You are filling up our prisons, sucking up our resources and have a bad fucking attitude to top it off.
ClairvoyantDreamer29 1 year ago
is this how the state planned on saving money? wow, I am glad I don't work in OR
sbenson43 3 years ago
"Right to work" states suck for workers why?
michiganfireman 3 years ago
Because then they have to work!
amadeusyaoi 3 years ago
In "Right to work states" unions are weakened by these laws, wages are lowered and worker safety and health is endangered. Statistics from the United States Department of Labor show that in 2003 the rate of workplace fatalities per 100,000 workers was highest in right-to-work states. Nineteen of the top 25 states for worker fatality rates were right to work states, while 3 of the bottom 25 states were right-to-work states. It says "you're expendable" to big business and local gov't. No thanks.
michiganfireman 3 years ago
Wow, I never thought I'd agree with something on Fox News.
JonnyDouch 3 years ago
No-wonder Oregon is as backward as it is! I am a transplant from Michigan and I am amazed how Oregon backs down to immigrants. Before you attack me know this, I have lived in California, Arizona, Washington, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, and Oregon. This bullshit of requiring a U.S. Citizen to speak something other than the United State's formal language is a result of poor leadership. Go to France and try to require the same thing. Fuckin liberal's!
buschlght 3 years ago
Thank you Oregon Legislature for looking after the public's best interest. Or is it yours? Remind again me why no one likes politicians.
michiganfireman 3 years ago
WOW! That's actually pretty scary if you think about it. Firefighters who can't communicate with the public. Your Tax Dollars at work.
russkeller 3 years ago
Why should firefighters or ANY citizen of the United States of America be required to speak ANY language other than English? Immigrants need to adapt to OUR culture and language, not the other way around. You better learn Swahili pal before you piss someone off!
michiganfireman 3 years ago