Papp Gas Plasma Engine

[flowerbower]

Those who promote perpetual motion machines like this are obviously guilty of fraud.

[aragonisle]

Indeed the Rohner brothers fabricated the vertical and horizontal two cylinder Papp engines according to Dr. Gayle Gibson of Guymon, OK who bought the Papp engine collection at a Federal auction on Joe’s death. The vertical two was stolen from a government bonded storage facility and was never recovered, although there have been recent clues to it’s whereabouts. The horizontal two and the vertical are still in our possession. Some day maybe. . . . ? (Sorry Bob)

[wintersmith17]

The Papp Engine is cover by U.S. Patent 4, 428,193 issued Jan. 31, 1984 now expired and thus in the public domain. The full specification including the gas composition to the tenth of a percent is specified. Anyone can now make and use it for FREE. The fact that no one has leads to its speculative nature.

[bjrohner]

@aragonisle

There were two vertical engines that ran. Neither of these are in your possession. You may still have the horizontal but it was never operational. Don't know anything about any bonded warehouse! Who was paying for it? I do know that It wasn't you and it wasn't bonded by any government. You don't need to apologize to me since you never did anything that I know about. Take care. BOB

[bjrohner]

The vertical and horizontal two cylinder engines you see running in this video were designed and built for Joe Papp by Bob and Tom Rohner of Rohner Machine in West Liberty, IA. For more detailed videos including a history, initial running, and multiple test runs, feel free to visit the rohnermachine com site. Closer inspection of this and other Walraven and Sabori videos will show them to be actual videos of our engines in operation. Thank you gentlemen for the lack of credit presented.

[imnotdavidxnsx]

i think it's funny that chevron supposedly buys these patents off of people, which is why they never come out. Pretty sure that if i held a patent that would easily put chevron OUT OF BUSINESS...there's no amount chevron could offer that would make me sell. Yet...everyone sells. Somehow the people making these devices are all retarded geniuses.

[imnotdavidxnsx]

all i see is some engines running...no proof of anything out of the norm. the only strange looking engines shown, are coincidentally never shown running. also why would the dude die and not leave his world-changing formulas behind for ANYONE else? stinks to high heaven. seeya

[iamh2ok9]

As long as we have to go to someone else for our fuel, we will be captive consumers. In other words, we will become slaves to their source. Summery: Nice engine, but still no freedom from needing their fuel. Same medicine, just different doctors is all.

[jimmycar83]

Wish i could bring papp back too life so I could shoot him again for taking his invention too the grave, what a dick

[aragonisle]

You might contact Dr. Lothar Schmitz @ the University fo California, LA. He is the foremost scientist in the US as to plasma technology and is very familiar with the Papp Plasma Engine technology.

His e-mail is: lschmitz@ucla.edu

[duhhybrid]

@aragonisle won't do much since the oil companies will pay to have this covered up

[ugore]

I am an amateur inventor with great ideas, I am getting ready to provide a thesis to present to some private companies(hopefully i can avoid going to government for help)

My thesis will include 3 propositions. 1) using a trio of functions to provide power to ships such as plasma powered engines for thrust, Ion thrusters for takeoff, and Magnetic fields. 2) I have a theory as to why we dont have cold fusion and according to my research it is possible

[jimmycar83]

@ugore cold fusion has been achieved many times on a very small scale tho

[ryobie1]

What ever became of this?

[emanacio]

Nagyon jó találmány.

1912ben már ismerték az anyag tulajdonságát.

Rájöttem a müködési elvére: Rádium emanáció ez az üzemanyag

sokkal biztonságosabb mint egy atomerőmű bár ez is fúzió

3,5nap felezési idővel.

Ezért működik zárt rendszerben akár 1500-2000 évig is a motor (ja a csapágy nem)

[clipper0udo2]

@emanacio

Igen, ez a nukleáris reakció!

Örülök, hogy néhány más, aki kapja ezt.

[clipper0udo2]

K Electron capture.

Gamma ejection 3.7 angstroms in a solid.

2.4 angstroms in Helium.

3.7 - 2.4 = 1.3

The above shows the kinetic energy imparted to the helium nucleus during gamma emission.

Other noble gasses mixed to moderate the explosion.

That is the secret, and it works fine.

If you don't know anything about K Electron capture and it's energies you have no idea how this works.

[sirHOAX]

Funny that you mention this. Because I believe Stanley Meyers had a sealed engine to at some point in time. Or simply knew of the possibilities of completely sealing off the engine, which is how he described priming gases. Possibly along these lines.

[LostInMadness220]

i think the stirling engine concept is applied here somehow.

[concretepete2007]

where can i get one and how do you re fuel it

[Carlos230023]

if anyone can get it to work drop me a line because i want time to build my bomb shelter before the world implodes. Lets be honest, the thermodynamic laws of energy conservation need to apply, normal internal combustion you need stored chemical energy and an electrical source of ignition. for it to simply run on stored noble gasses the thing would have to be fusion powered to run continuously for 7000 hours without a top up. Even nuclear power would need topping up more than that.

[Rich2150x]

Thanks for posting this video.

And thanks to you Jim for keeping this research and technology alive.

As we can see the auto industry is finally reaping their just rewards for holding out, denying and suppressing these kinds technology over the years.

Hopefully the current state of things in the auto industry will help you in your research, development, production and marketing efforts. Good luck Jim and take care.

Rich

[marla5555]

Jim Sabori will be happy to answer any questions you may have in this comment forum. He is reluctant to post his email because of the potential for spam, etc. Let's begin with this forum for your questions and go from there, if that is OK with you. Jim has made considerable advances and improvements on his own since these old videos were made. The technology did not die with Joe Papp. These 20+ year old videos were not posted by Jim Sabori but by a gentleman who was Jim's guest to see Joe Papp.

[marla5555]

This message is in response to fdoca. You can reach Mr. Sabori by emailing the same address. He will be happy to answer you.

[fdoca]

Thanks, email the same address? I am confused, where I can find this?

[NinjaKid3000]

did anyone read the desciption: "Joe passed away in 1989, taking the Gas Formula with him"

thats really sucks doesnt it

[ufobubba]

This engine has no intake or exhaust. It has dome-shaped closed cylinders at top. There is a mixture of noble gases (helium, xenon, etc.) which are chosen to make the reaction speed conform to that required by the engine. The four-cylinder Volvo block used got 300 hp., constant. The gases expand, drive the pistons and contract for next cycle. It is a free energy invention, developed over 35 years ago. The oil companies and auto manufacturers know about it so why don't we have it???

[Texmurphy51]

Because it is a total bunch of bullshit. If you do assume the "Evil Oil Companies" is sitting on this. Why dont we see it in other countries? China is starving for energy and if this or ANY of the other mirad of so called Free Energy engines worked they would buy it in a second. These are all a Hoax to get people to invest money for their development.

[nobrizzle]

@Texmurphy51 so you think that we could never create a technology this amazing? Do you know how efficient our gas engines are in our cars-like %25 at best? Do you know how efficient the transformers are in welding machines ? Try 98%? Chevron buy's patents up as soon as they come out...there were cars that got 55mpg back in the 70's- and now today that's supposed to be a jump forward?

[Texmurphy51]

@nobrizzle Sorry but your wrong. I worked on experimental cars in the 70s trying vaporized gasoline carburators. What you dont understand is that internal combustion engines are limited to a theoretical 25% efficiency, NO MATTER WHAT THE FUEL OR DELIVERY SYSTEM. Transformers in your welders have nothing to do with how an engine will run. Buying up patents makes no difference. You dont need a patent to produce a product. Your being feed a line of BS on this conspiracy.

[imnotdavidxnsx]

@Texmurphy51 yup, you can produce anything that is patented as long as it's not for profit. any one of these supposed world-changing technologies that has been "bought up" could be produced by any of the world's major philanthropists at a non-profit. Doesn't happen, cuz it's all BS, which is why you'll never see any of this stuff actually working on youtube, for profit or otherwise.

[Texmurphy51]

@imnotdavidxnsx The PROFIT is in selling Experimental Kits or Licenses to Produce this technology.

Bedini makes experimental kits of his device, its Your job to get it to work.

I hate seeing all these poor suckers spending megahours of their time beating their head against the wall trying to get this stuff to work when its not possible.

Its like the snake oil salesman selling Miracle Cures.

[imnotdavidxnsx]

@nobrizzle that's pretty stupid. your conspiracy accusation assumes that everyone intelligent enough to develop such a device has coincidentally also been a scumbag willing to sell their patent to chevron and tons of other companies interested in keeping the devices off the shelves. I think it's pretty obvious, with the vast number of claims, that SOMEONE by now would have said "ummm, no, not selling".

[aviatrix2]

The two cylinder in the middle of the video with the guy changing the speed just seems to be driven with a DC motor. You can hear the sound of a DC motor being driven by a pulse-width speed controller when it is slowed down. Knowing how much drag basic engine components cause, it is unlikely it could turn so slow and keep running. I don't think that one is the real thing.

[marla5555]

Do a google search. Stay tuned. BTW...We miss Carol.

[marla5555]

Jim Sabori sends his greetings.

[aragonisle]

Thought you had faded into the woodwork.

Jim W

[fdoca]

Jimi Sabori made a similar engine too, Do you know how to contact Jimi? Thanks

This is the most powerful engine in the world, its like a atomic engine of some kind, it had accident exploded and killed one people due to improposer operation.

[marla5555]

Out of curiosity, what is the origin of this video?

[aragonisle]

This was part of a collection of original videos I have.

Jim Walraven

[teslaandlyne]

Helium can be taken from underground gases from oil wells. Nobel gases are in low supply. Good work. The explosive reaction of these gases to a Tesla ignition coil is not available that I know of. Helium can re capture its electrons making it available to spark again. The theory as far as I can tell.

[finefilth]

youll be paying 12 bucks a gallon before you see this thing... the free market is a total lie

[EliteCovenant]

Excelsoooo!!! ojala que salga pronto este tipo de tecnologial que sustituya a la combustion porfavor es una ayuda para tdo el planeta yo los apoyo!!!!

[LostInMadness220]

Does it work like a diesel engine, air compressed?