Webley Mark VI, Prideaux Device, Webley .22 Conversion

[AnimeLoverLukara]

You have TWO?!

[coheedatreyu]

your just the man

[Ki113r210]

does anyone know if its difficult or not to get ahold of the ammunition? this pretty clearly doesnt look like something youd by in most stores, so is it something you have to handload? on a related note, what is a good revolver to have if you want to hand load your own ammo? something with fairly common brass?

[MCh2207Cz]

I know that the Prideaux device was for .455 British revolvers, but how about the .38 ones (Enfield No2)? Did they have their own speedloaders? Or could the empty cylinders be changed for full ones?

[DrakeGmbH]

@MCh2207Cz There were Prideaux loaders made for the small frame .38 caliber revolvers.

I haven't heard about anyone swapping cylinders outside of the cap-and-ball field. Neither the Enfield No2 nor the Webley MkIV cylinders can be removed without a screwdriver.

[MCh2207Cz]

@DrakeGmbH

Many thanks!

[R3APERRANGER]

@DrakeGmbH Actually, the Russian Nagant revolvers were famous for taking so long to reload that Russian soldiers would often switch cylinders.

[Wabaanimkii]

I want a modern TB revolver.

.357 magnum please.

Webley style lock please

Much stronger please.

Blued steel please.

Please?

[DrakeGmbH]

@RyanThorntonFTW That would defeat the purpose of a speedloader, wouldn't it?

[GeLsEnKiRcHeN95]

Love the vids man, short... simple, to the point.... keep up the good work

[countrywideboy]

These gun's where made back when Webley and BSA where Great like the Empire...not  like the cheap shit..that so called webley and bsa bang out today...all made in spain by pisshead's....

[TheEltopian]

Makes sense. You have some good videos. Looking for more.

[TheEltopian]

Could you tell me a bit aboiut the .22 conversion? What was the thought behind converting a millitary revolver to a small cal. single shot? (Civilan market, maybe)? Anyway good video! Dale Jones

[DrakeGmbH]

@TheEltopian The purpose is to allow troops to practice their form and marksmanship with the service revolver with cheaper ammunition. .455 Webley has very mild recoil already - with this .22LR adapter recoil is nonexistent. It's surprisingly accurate as well.

[Visualfoxy1]

Hi again  I have a picture of 32 Automatic bullets they found in the canal (re green bicycle murder) DO this bullets fit the Webley.....

THANKS alisonkeay@talktalknet

[DrakeGmbH]

@Visualfoxy1 Webley & Scott did produce a few .32 Auto semiauto pistols, but no revolvers in this caliber that I'm aware of.

[Visualfoxy1]

@DrakeGmbH Hi. Thanks for the reply. SO: The .32 automatic bullets would not fit a Webley .455 ?? A .455 Webley bullet would fit a Webley?? Please clarify

thanks  visualfoxy1 (alison)

[DrakeGmbH]

@Visualfoxy1 .32 ACP would not fit a .455-caliber Webley revolver. There are not many calibers that interchange, and Webley had a somewhat simple product line, caliber-wise.

There were a great deal of .455 caliber Webley revolvers, but these only fit the .455 Enfield, .476 Enfield, .455 Mark I thru Mark VI, .455 Colt and .450 Adams. The most common of these is the .455 Mark II which uses an unjacketed lead bullet.

[Visualfoxy1]

@DrakeGmbH. Interesting reply. More to this than what you would think.

SO again: what type of bullet could make a bullet hole in the skull 1half x half ins wide and exited over the right parietal bone - leading to an oval wound: as described by the Dr. The .32 would not fit (found in the canal) Are the Enfields, Mark 1 .455 Colt British?? Would be pleased for further clarification:

I am interested as I know the area where she was found.........

thanks visualfoxy1 (alison)

[Visualfoxy1]

@DrakeGmbH HI. Another question  I understand the .455 is a huge bullet. What size bullet hole would

it make. Are there only one calibres of this range?? that would fit the bullet hole where a

LEADED pencil would fit?? The then Dr said a leaded pencil could be easily inserted into the bullet hole.......... THANKS alisonkeay@talktalk.net (uk)

[MrNelsonb2]

@Visualfoxy1 the 32 auto will not fit in a webley in .455 cal but their were a few companies out there decades ago that copied the design and created a 32 s&w model you can find a few 455 webley revolvers that were converted to use 45 acp with the use of moon clips they did that in the states due to lack of 455 ammo at the time

[Visualfoxy1]

@MrNelsonb2 THANKS for reply to this interesting subject. The more I delve... I know the .455 is a huge bullet the bullet wound was small enough for a lead pencil to be inserted in..... The .32 auto is obviously a smaller bullet (as per Sir Edward Marshall Hall's picture collection) ARE there any photos of the .32 side by side with the .455 and pictured by a small bullet hole the size of a 2s piece??..... thanks again. visualfoxy1

[Visualfoxy1]

HI. again. Just found your description above. So it is a Webley & Scott single shot of 1919. Just worked out (on the 1919 map) where they met. They thought it was a cycling accident. She was cycling towards home. Her feet was facing towards Leic and bicycle by her side. It was about 9.20pm Found by farmer. SO trying to work out Direction of the shot could she have been cycling.........

THANKS alisonkeay@talktalk.net (uk)

[Visualfoxy1]

Hi. I am having a few computer problems. My email address is alisonkeay@talktalk.net (UK) (i think this is american........

[Visualfoxy1]

I am researching the Green Bicycle Murder 1919. A girl was found in a country lane. She had been shot under her left eye. The size of the bullet wound being 1half x half ins wide. Dr. said it was a small puncture wound. It would admit an ordinary pencil. The bullet PC Hall found was a .455 Webley bullet. So would kind of bullet could it be? The holster was found months later: A Webley holster

Help please THANKS

Visualfoxy 1

[billyiamm]

How much do you think one of these, in the original caliper and used in ww1, would be worth? It's in great condition but you can tell it's old.

[billyiamm]

@billyiamm caliber*

[DrakeGmbH]

@billyiamm Hard to say without seeing it. Anywhere from $400-900 depending on the year, condition and markings, whether the cylinder has been shaved or not and whether the serials match.

[billyiamm]

@DrakeGmbH it's a 1917 it hasn't been shaved i said it was original caliber :P. all the serials match and its in pretty good condition.. you can tell its old but its not bad.

[DrakeGmbH]

@billyiamm -i said it was original caliber

I've heard that too many times to not doubt it. The sellers of both my Mark VI's insisted they were 'original .455' despite both the cylinders being obviously shaved. No offense intended but I was trying to clarify the factors that go into the value. Cylinder slop should be checked with the trigger held to the rear since the third lock is only applied when the trigger is pulled.

Both mine are 1917 and the most expensive cost me $450.

[Visualfoxy1]

@DrakeGmbH How do I reply

[Visualfoxy1]

@Visualfoxy1 Hi I am having a few computer problems. My email address is

alisonkeay@talktalk.net. (UK) (I assume this is america.....)

someone has put a video of it here (not me) THE one showing the bullets

[Visualfoxy1]

@Visualfoxy1 My email address is alisonkeay@talktalk.net (UK) I assume this is american. Some one has put it on here (one showing the bullets, not me)

I am having a few computer problems. This video explained a lot to a beginner

.........

[Visualfoxy1]

@billyiamm- 

[Visualfoxy1]

@billyiamm- Hi. I am researching the green bicycle murder of 1919. A girl was found in a country lane. She had been shot under her left eye. The size of the bullet wound being 1half x half ins wide Dr. said it was a small puncture wound that would admit an ordinary lead pencil. The bullet P.C Hall found the next day was a .455 webley bullet. I understand this is a huge bullet for the size of the bullet wound. SO what kind of bullet..... Help THANKS

The holster found

Visualfoxy1

[Visualfoxy1]

@billyiamm test

[billyiamm]

@DrakeGmbH ill post a video of it on here when i get my camera working again ill reply it to one of your videos and you can take a look at it :P

[Visualfoxy1]

@billyiamm THANKS. On looking at the video (which I understand as a beginner) I just noticed when you loaded it does the WEBLEy hold only SIX BULLETS ?? ONLY when they found the holster in the canal there were twelve bullets there: AND the gun holding one bullet is that a Webley

THANKS again - visual foxy (Oct 2010)

[billyiamm]

Im about to get a 1917 model used in ww1 for almost a steal i cant wait to shoot it! This has to be one of the rarest guns in my area im so excited.

[BOT101st]

Would love to have one of those, but stupidly enough the UK banned revolvers and pistols in 1997... sucks balls... :/

[whowantsabighug]

Is the leather work origional or repro?

[DrakeGmbH]

@whowantsabighug Reproduction. I've been trying to get a nice original Sam Browne setup for a few years with no luck yet.

[BigDThe0G]

I cannot even begin to express how jealous I am of you for owning TWO of these beautiful weapons.

[LieutenantDan605]

that .22 webly looks sort of like a c96... weird.

[neonpike]

exellent engineering and video

[20cFilmWannabe]

my great uncle shot our town mayor with one of those

[20cFilmWannabe]

brittish guns are best

[XvChriisvX]

@20cFilmWannabe kentucky long rifle beats your browm bess good sirrrrrrrrr

[meissoawesome3]

I envy you.

[Detoyato]

My Favorite Gun.... EVER! Well Ive always been a fan of old British Guns Like the Martini-Henry(My fav Single Shot) and the SMLE MKI-IV(Fav Rifle).

The Brits are just so Ingeneous when it came to inovations back then. The Martini-Henry was has one of the quickest reloads of any Single Shot Rifle, the Lee-Enfield's loaded 10 rounds and had quick cock on closing actions then theres the Webley A revolver that has everything Stopping Power, Rapid Reload, Range and most important off all it has STYLE

[lil0JoE]

How much($) was the revolver?

[lptomtom]

If you open the revolver while it still has unspent cartridges in it, will they be ejected as well? Or does the system only eject empty shells?

[DrakeGmbH]

The extractor kicks out everything in the cylinder when snapped open sharply. If you open the action carefully while keeping the muzzle down so the rear of the cylinder faces up - the spent cases will eject and the live cartridges will drop back into their chambers. Difficult to do quickly under stress but possible.

[lawsturner]

beautiful reproduction holster youve got there, the old dust cover holsters may not have been as fast to clear, but the looked damn cool sitting right across your belly as if to say "if i gotta dig this thing out theres gonna be a big-ass hole where that nazi's chest used to be"

[DrakeGmbH]

The ammunition is actually still produced, but only the MkII cartridge with a solid lead round nose bullet. Fiocchi and Hornady sell 265gr loads.

Unfortunately the revolvers have been out of production since 1926. It was replaced by the Enfield No2 MkI in 1932 and was declared officially obsolete by the British government in 1947.

[Nick3889]

Still a beautiful gun

[AdmiralGST]

that is one of the best speed loaders i've ever seen!

[DrakeGmbH]

It's a shame they're so uncommon now, they were apparently popular during the world wars. .38 and .455 versions were still in Parker-Hale's catalog into the 1940's.

[AdmiralGST]

you can still find em right?

[DrakeGmbH]

Not very easily. I've only seen four .455 loaders myself in the past three or so years I was looking for one. Three were auctions, one belongs to a friend of mine. I managed to win one at auction.

[AdmiralGST]

how much did you pay for yours?

[DrakeGmbH]

Don't remember exactly, I won it from Ward's Auctions a few cycles ago - they roll all your winning bids into one bill.

[fatoni698]

Is there anywhere to find the .22 conversion anymore?

[DrakeGmbH]

These haven't been made for about half a century. Your best bet is to watch auctions for one and keep an eye out at local shops and shows.

[fatoni698]

Maybe I will just shoot .455 out of my webley and .22 out of my ruger, sounds easier haha

[loptosko1]

congratulations. very nice toys.

[lptomtom]

Lucky man!

[kiwitedferny]

Cool vid. I haven't seen either of those 2 devices before. Thanks for posting.