....And, in regards to Michael's recordings, "Butterflies" is one of his best (and most beautiful) vocal performances - ever. The movie "This Is It" had all great LIVE vocals - from him - throughout, especially when he sang "I Just Can't Stop Loving You." He was 50 years old, at the time. His adult vocal abilities should be viewed more positively.
Men, you take the central C as C4 or C5?... Because if you take it as C5 it is imposible that he can sing notes like B2.
Whatever the good low notes and the way he sing makes me think he used a lot of falsetto, and that's not bad contra tenors (they sing as girls or soprano) sing with falsetto all time but their real voice color is of a baritone.
Why are people actually argueing over his vocal range. Fucking nerds all that needs to be said is he sings better than any of you argueing and he is the best entertainer ever. Bitches
@Administrator688 I said plus-minus tenor... Of course it's rather very broad tenor. Now I got doubts. Maybe what I see as a head voice was still mix? I don't know. I just don't believe in supernatural million-gazzilon octave ranges. I'm convinced that all woo-hooo's were produced with whistle. That I can do even with vocal cords heavily affected by smoking. (I simply cannot make it coherent and consistent). I know about tenors able to pull their chest voice well beyond C5. Where falsetto ends?
@Administrator 688 Brilliant, man! That's exactly what I meant about range versus skills. It's not how long it is. It's how you use it. ;) Michael's? Seems to be consistent with +-tenor range. It's the mix chest/head what made it so exceptional. I disagree. There was no F1. Seems though like there was weak F2. At the top that C6, to me, that was definitely whistle. So I would say michael's range was just shy from 4 octaves. Nothing supernatural. But the way He was using it... That's the genius.
@MrPzyt You are right, when you say that it's not really a matter of how much (or, in some cases, how little) of a range one has in his/her voice - it's more importantly a matter of using the voice, and, knowing what to do with it. How interesting it is, by the way, that you make these other points in your comments: "Michael's? Seems to be consistent with +-tenor range. It's the mix chest/head what made it so exceptional." "At the top that C6, to me, that was definitely 'whistle.' " Really?
MysteryWhiteboy, you're saying that Michael may have had a total range - IF you were to include ALL his vocal registers (such as those going from his Chest Voice to his Head Voice/falsetto) - of at least 4.5 octaves? I thought so, because, if his Chest Voice was 4 already (as other comments point out), then half an octave above THAT added to it would have been.... Hmm....that's interesting.
....However, to continue on with the previous comment, I do like what you said about Mariah Carey's vocal skills - and her range (especially when she sings in her "whistle"-pitch register). But, still, let me know what you think of Michael's vocal abilities - and his range, as well. I agree with you - somewhat - that just having a good range is not as important as USING it (or, knowing HOW to use it).
MrPzyt, I would like to know what your opinion is, personally, in regards to MICHAEL JACKSON'S voice - and his range. As I have read other comments posted here, some of them have NOTHING to do with the subject matter of the Video - because they refer to OTHER singers' voices, not his. Do you think he had an exceptional voice, too? I'd be very interested in your answer.
As a supplement to my opinion I'll say that I have listened a lot lately to those Mariah's stunning performances and indeed she made astonishing art in usage of whistle. It is exceptional. And that's the keyword. Exception. Anyone can reach very broad vocal range, but very few can actually sing beautifully. So I'm still not very thrilled about "range". Cheers. :)
@tiatrips I've just experimented. Got tension in my larynx like a hell, but I've just hit notes from A1 to C#6. So what? I normally consider useful range between roughly D2 and D5. The fact that I forced myself to hit those notes with whistle register I personally don't consider as having 4 or more octaves. With some training anyone can make those high pitched sounds.What counts to me is range in which one can make diverse palette of timbres and dynamics which is questionable with whistle.
Thanks, Mojopin, to you, and Tiatrips, for explaining everything. Both of you have really cleared things up, regarding exactly how many notes make up one octave. I agree with.what you said about Michael's vocal range without his falsetto. Do you know what his TOTAL range would have been, if ALL of the vocal registers (Chest Voice, Head Voice....etc.) were included? Do you think it might have been over 4 octaves? Not sure, but maybe....
@Administrator688 hmm i guess maybe at least half octave from his head voice/falsetto singing voice...but really we should just count his chest voice...he already had an impressive range without using too much falsetto...but, as the voice gets older people will use falsetto to hit those notes they cant hit with a younger voice....also (the singer.freddie mercury smoked and drank beer and had an impressive range right into his 40s...(.
Thanks, Mojopin, to you, and Tiatrips, for explaining everything. Both of you have really cleared things up, regarding exactly how many notes make up one octave. I agree with.what you said about Michael's vocal range without his falsetto. Do you know what his TOTAL range would have been, if ALL of the vocal registers (Chest Voice, Head Voice....etc.) were included?
Mariah Carey is a WOMAN, that's partly why she can hit those "whistle"-pitch notes. Plus, she had a lot of Opera, and classical, training in her background. That's how she got her extensive vocal range. Michael also had a VERY extensive range - for a man.
I can read a lots of B/S about 6 octave vocal ranges not only in MJ context. They all false. No human has that kind of range. Average, untrained person would have 1.5 to 2.5 octave range. Somehow skilled 3 to 3 and something. I don't know what some exceptional voices are capable of, but it's hard to imagine someone reaching 4 octaves. That kind of voice would have to be able to sing from low end of bass to top of soprano range. Hard to imagine, isn't it?
@MrPzyt I agree with you but there ARE a few people with 4 octave ranges in their full-voice. David Lee Roth, while not a great singer, has G1-G5, Dan Arlie has G1-G5, Ville Valo has F1-F5, Phil Anselmo has F#1-F#5, Mark Slaughter has A1-A5, and Axl Rose has a massive F1-G5. All of these singers (excluding Mark Slaughter) are naturally baritones of some kind with tremendous high extensions.
It's much rarer for a tenor to have this kind of range because they lack the low extension required, and high range is much easier to develop than low range is. A few other near four octave singers are Billy Gibbons (Bass, E1-Eb5), Mike Patton (Baritone, G#1-G5), David Coverdale (Baritone, G#1-F#5), Rob Rock (Low Tenor, G#1-F#5), Hansi Kursch (High Baritone, Bb1-G#5), among others.
@MrPzyt 'Mariah Carey possesses a 5-octave vocal range,[129][230][231] and has the ability to reach notes beyond the 7th octave.[232][233] from wikipedia
@MrPzyt 4 octaves isn't that hard to believe for someone with training. Middle C is C4. An octave either way is C3 and C5. Most guys can drop to the C2 without too much of an issue and trained singers can get somewhere up to the middle of the C5 octave without an issue. That's already 2.5. Depending on the actual voice type of the singer, the lower of higher register expands and makes 4, or close to it, possible.
Just goes to show you: range isn't everything. Michael sang beautifully as a boy but by the time he was in his late 20's he was reduced to warbles, screeches and grunts
@bkmk777 I very STRONGLY disagree with you, when it comes to Michael's adult singing voice. He STILL sounded great (and sang BEAUTIFULLY, I might add) at the age of 50 years old!!! And, this was during (sadly) his final rehearsals for "This Is It." He ALWAYS had a beautiful singing voice, throughout ALL stages of both his life, AND his career. He changed his style of singing as he grew up, and, as different styles of music changed - over the years. He didn't just sing one way all the time.
@bkmk777 Screeches and grunts were something he did, but you can't deny he had complete control over his voice, and could sing some really clear, full high notes, with an agility no one has ever showed before him, he was so powerful when needed, yet so controlled when he had to sing soft and light parts. He was just a master of his craft, every singer should listen to his beautiful tecnique, sometimes listening to a good singer is better than practicing hours and hours.
@arcuz92 Apparently you didn't see the Jacksons 25th anniversary special where Jermaine had to cover most of the lead vocals and Michael's few attempts were shaky and off key. As I already acknowledged, he had a great voice when he was a kid.The bottom line is: his biggest fans see past all the flaws and idolize him just as Elvis fans will claim that he was the greatest singer more because they identify with the image than because of any dispassionate technical analysis. To each their own.
@bkmk777 Apparently I saw much more stuff than you did. Are you really implying he was bad at singing 'cause in a performance at 40 years old dancing and singing at the same time he was fatigued and couldn't sing? Stop this bullshit please. It is pretty well known that the 25th anniversary was the lowest point in his career, and that he wasn't that good at singing live past his 30's, but still he was a great great singer, and you understand it seeing performances of him not dancing.
@arcuz92 I don't think Michael sang badly, during his "30th Anniversary" T.V. Special, at all. The way he sang "I'll Be There" - and then....hitting those high notes towards the end of that song - WOW!!! He was in his early 40's, and STILL had a great voice.
@Administrator688 Man, I'm not saying at all he didn't have a great voice or anything like that, I was just saying that it's wrong to judge him for that performance as we all know he wasn't at his best, but still, as you said, he managed to nail a good part of his live vocals, even with the dancing, fatigue, and not being on tour-form. I believe he was just great, with an amazing gift in his voice, and complete control over it, which is something you don't see around a lot.
@bkmk777 Singing Michael's song about the Ghost of Jealousy. You know Elvis couldn't hit the ranges as Michael Jackson. That's just one of the reasons Michael was loved worldwide, and packed out stadiums all over the world. Elvis did not have a crossover following. I admire Elvis's gospel roots & his gift, but Michael's gift was measured out more to him. Sadly, the enemy of our soul targeted & destroyed them both.
His first advantage is the natural speed of his voice. Michael Jackson has the abillity to sing in STACCATO, and sing complex rhythms in perfect timing....Jackson's second advantage as a singer is his range. Michael Jackson's natural vocal range, before he breaks off into FALSETTO, goes from two E's below middle C, to two B's above middle C or 44 notes"
I don't really know much about vocal range, although i find it interesting. This is what his vocal coach, Seth Riggs said about MJ and his voice
"Michael Jackson, described by his vocal coach, Seth Riggs, as a high tenor, was declared the 11th best vocalist in contempary music, according to MTV's 22 Greatest Voice in Music. He has recieved many awards for his vocal performance through-out his career.
Technically, Michael Jackson has one of the finest voices in contempary music.
What an interesting Video. How were the notes counted, adding up to 4.6 octaves? There are some comments posted (in regards to this, and other Videos) that I've read, giving Michael credit for having a range of 3.5 to 4.0 octaves, or less. And, the notes go from Eb2, to HIGHER than C6. What is really the correct vocal range, and, what are the correct notes? I'm confused, not sure who - or what - to believe. Could someone post the correct notes, and range, for this Video? Thanks.
4.6 Octaves Damn. But then again when your father takes a belt to you at a tender age you'll do whatever to make it stop. If his father pushed him in sports am sure he would've been great too.
@ChrisBrownsGirl17 the lowest note in a persons natural singing voice to the highest measured in octaves an octave is 8 notes ( low to high ,c,d,e,f,g,a b,c) to have a 4 octave voice is pretty incredible for a male singer...4 octaves would be from low to high a 32 notes
@mojopin70 Forgive me, but an octave (C to C) is actually 12 notes. The semitones in between make it 12. 4 octaves means he is capable of hitting 48 notes. Unless of course, someone is nitpicking and considers the octave note of C1 and the lowest in C2 the same.
@tiatrips@mojopin70 The comments posted between the two of you give different numbers for how many notes make up one octave. In one of my previous comments, I ask: "How were the notes counted, adding up to 4.6 octaves?" And then, these statements: "There are some comments posted (in regards to this, and other Videos) that I've read, giving Michael credit for having a range of 3.5 to 4.0 octaves, or less. I'm confused, not sure who - or what - to believe." What's Michael's TRUE range?
@Administrator688 Based on the video, he has a little over 4 and two-thirds octaves of range. 12 notes in an octave, and the two octaves that aren't full have 8 notes. However, with the one correction I saw on his lower register of notes, F3, instead of F1, he has about 2 and two-thirds octaves of range. With the comments about what the lower note actually is, it's hard to say. I need a keyboard so I can actually match the notes up.
@Administrator688 Also, the notes are counted on the chromtic scale, using middle C on a piano or musical staff as C4. All the notes above that are one octave, starting over with C5 on the next C. There are 8 notes in a sung major scale, but 12 notes that make up the octave (C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, A#, B). The 12 notes is what is gone by when counting an octave. Then some math has to be done for someone who doesn't have a full octave on the end of their range.
@Administrator688 before i was trying to explain to a guy that 1 octave is 8 notes to not confuse things and just x 4 ( 4 octaves) but if we are getting technical 1 octave is 12 notes so 4 x 12 =.48 notes ( not 32)......and that gives you the number of notes in a 4 octave voice that a person would/should be able to hit .3.5 would be 3.5 x 12= 42?
@mojopin70@tiatrips ....Also, would either one of you be able to clear up the confusion as to what the correct range is, as well as the correct number of octaves, shown in this Video? That would certainly help, a LOT, and, your help - along with your viewpoint concerning this subject matter - would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
@Administrator688 hi,1 octave is 8 notes but as tiatrips said 12 with the ( sharps/flats) included which are chromatic notes ... c,b,d,e,f,g,a,b,c ( whole notes) c,c#/,d,d#,e,f,f#,g,g#,a,a#,b ( full 12 notes with half notes or semitones) so MJ wouldve been able to hit any of those notes in 1 octave ,4 octaves for a male voice is a lot from lowest note in his voice to the highest ( without falsetto) i dont know how many octaves he had, but im guessing it wouldve been around 4.
@mjthegreatest123 4.6 is pretty rare, its rumoured Mariah Carey carrys a 5 octave range and she is absolutley fantastically gifted, so 4.6 for a male who is raw talent is amazing. I think his pitching timing and his whole persona add alot to his performances, a great voice just isnt enough but Michael had it all and he was one of the greatest dancers to ever grace a stage, so yeah - he was rare.
@Administrator688 His lowest note was in that warmup, and his G#5's were at the end of Dirty Diana. His "Ows!" are mostly falsetto. Michael was a high tenor than became a Standard Tenor as he aged.
That was in fact a C6. It is falsetto, but it is indeed a C6. And there isn't an F1 as many of the previous said, but he could definitely reach B2. And as far as high notes he can in fact belt out in chest/full/regular voice up G5. Falsetto nearly an octave higher so yes, 3 octaves sounds about right for Mike indeed! ;) great video!
Almost all the high notes here are falsetto. Mike could never hit a C6. The highest recorded note hit in Full voice is B5. Mike's highest recorded note is G#5 from Dirty Diana. (Sha'mone! yelps). Compare those strained yelps to the stuff here. It's obvious it's falsetto.
@shacks29 Probably not. I was saying, the highest note recorded by any man in full voice is a B5. :D Mike probably goes out at A5. His highest recorded is a G#5. :D
F1? Bahahahahahahahahahha. Michael was a high tenor, I'd be damned if he can get a F1. That's Low Baritone territory. And all his C6's are complete falsetto, the highest notes Michael Jackson has in Mixed (AKA head Voice, what you guys are referring to) are a couple of G#5's from the End of "Dirty Diana". Mind you, it's still a pretty impressive note.
@aMadMansMusic it was a c6 man i just did it on the piano with him singing . it is highier than earth song part whis is bb5-b5 and michael could reach lower notes too like f1 when he was older
@aMadMansMusic Mercury's vocal range was C#2-F5; 3.5 octaves. F6 in falsetto from a short squeak during a live Under Pressure Performance. The C#2 was spoken. His lowest sung note is an F2 from the Backing Opera vocal in Bohemian Rhapsody.
Michael's real range is F2 to Bb5 (3.4 coctaves). The C6's are exclamations. I think he did hit an E2 in the studio. It was said that his full range was E2-C6.
@jayySC2 Really? It's interesting that you brought that up because I did some digging and I found out that he was a baritone who felt that singing tenor was more commerical.
It's incredible that someone with such a high speaking voice was a baritone.
@BlackLightning20101 Jackson wasn't any sort of a Baritone, mate. He started out as a Child Soprano, and when his voice matured in puberty it still remained pretty high; he then became a High Tenor. However, due to age his voice gradually lowered into a Standard Tenor.
I love when he gets it to a point where it sounds like an angelic chorus, I love a man with a voice like his but he was the only one with that voice, so I love him and only him.
@rizzy252 i was going to say the same thing. i think that's the highest i've heard him sing - one of the very last runs, at around 3:52 in butterflies.
@slxdragon Really? Do you really think so? He already had a very high range, but I didn't know, exactly, how far up it went. He was a much better singer than most people gave him credit for, especially during his adult life.
@77fthg33 WOW!!! I didn't even know that. Hmm....how interesting. Are those upper notes you mention classified as being in the "whistle"-pitch register? I have been wondering if Michael, in his whole entire career, would have EVER had the ability to "whistle." If he ever did, that's amazing.
@Hippieforce Yeah! I was expecting for that song too! His falsetto there was so high & daring that other male singers might fail to try. I wonder if J. Timberlake, Usher or Babyface can hit those highest notes from butterflies. (^_^d
Very interesting video and discussion. Interesting to learn more about MJ and music in general. Thanks for sharing. MJ had an amazing voice and ability to sing such a wide range of music styles.
Look Michael Jackson did not use falsetto for thriller, beat it, bille jean, bad, dangerous, and many more, this is refering to when he belts the chorus, its full chest voice, but his tone and his voice is very pure and light that it sounds like falsetto, to hear clearly examine his voice in the accapella of billie jean.
@Godwill3 he did use falsetto because it requires skill, but i dont like it when people miss judge when he uses it and it make seem as if hes not as good
correction...come together was during hi movi moonwalker which was around 1987....not 1995..(:
crazygal41194 1 week ago
F0 to C85...
Titou191919 1 week ago
The lowest note I hear in this video is a G2.
whatsabolero 2 weeks ago
That's not F1, it's F2!
celosemnexo 2 weeks ago
....And, in regards to Michael's recordings, "Butterflies" is one of his best (and most beautiful) vocal performances - ever. The movie "This Is It" had all great LIVE vocals - from him - throughout, especially when he sang "I Just Can't Stop Loving You." He was 50 years old, at the time. His adult vocal abilities should be viewed more positively.
Administrator688 2 weeks ago
Isso é F1 mesmo? O:
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Men, you take the central C as C4 or C5?... Because if you take it as C5 it is imposible that he can sing notes like B2.
Whatever the good low notes and the way he sing makes me think he used a lot of falsetto, and that's not bad contra tenors (they sing as girls or soprano) sing with falsetto all time but their real voice color is of a baritone.
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galletitamortal 3 weeks ago
Those 14,fk them!
xiaoloong1 3 weeks ago
Why are people actually argueing over his vocal range. Fucking nerds all that needs to be said is he sings better than any of you argueing and he is the best entertainer ever. Bitches
AntGotMullah 3 weeks ago
F1? Is that possible? seriously?
rezarusandi 3 weeks ago
@Administrator688 I said plus-minus tenor... Of course it's rather very broad tenor. Now I got doubts. Maybe what I see as a head voice was still mix? I don't know. I just don't believe in supernatural million-gazzilon octave ranges. I'm convinced that all woo-hooo's were produced with whistle. That I can do even with vocal cords heavily affected by smoking. (I simply cannot make it coherent and consistent). I know about tenors able to pull their chest voice well beyond C5. Where falsetto ends?
MrPzyt 1 month ago
@Administrator 688 Brilliant, man! That's exactly what I meant about range versus skills. It's not how long it is. It's how you use it. ;) Michael's? Seems to be consistent with +-tenor range. It's the mix chest/head what made it so exceptional. I disagree. There was no F1. Seems though like there was weak F2. At the top that C6, to me, that was definitely whistle. So I would say michael's range was just shy from 4 octaves. Nothing supernatural. But the way He was using it... That's the genius.
MrPzyt 1 month ago
@MrPzyt You are right, when you say that it's not really a matter of how much (or, in some cases, how little) of a range one has in his/her voice - it's more importantly a matter of using the voice, and, knowing what to do with it. How interesting it is, by the way, that you make these other points in your comments: "Michael's? Seems to be consistent with +-tenor range. It's the mix chest/head what made it so exceptional." "At the top that C6, to me, that was definitely 'whistle.' " Really?
Administrator688 1 month ago
MysteryWhiteboy, you're saying that Michael may have had a total range - IF you were to include ALL his vocal registers (such as those going from his Chest Voice to his Head Voice/falsetto) - of at least 4.5 octaves? I thought so, because, if his Chest Voice was 4 already (as other comments point out), then half an octave above THAT added to it would have been.... Hmm....that's interesting.
Administrator688 1 month ago
....However, to continue on with the previous comment, I do like what you said about Mariah Carey's vocal skills - and her range (especially when she sings in her "whistle"-pitch register). But, still, let me know what you think of Michael's vocal abilities - and his range, as well. I agree with you - somewhat - that just having a good range is not as important as USING it (or, knowing HOW to use it).
Administrator688 1 month ago
MrPzyt, I would like to know what your opinion is, personally, in regards to MICHAEL JACKSON'S voice - and his range. As I have read other comments posted here, some of them have NOTHING to do with the subject matter of the Video - because they refer to OTHER singers' voices, not his. Do you think he had an exceptional voice, too? I'd be very interested in your answer.
Administrator688 1 month ago
As a supplement to my opinion I'll say that I have listened a lot lately to those Mariah's stunning performances and indeed she made astonishing art in usage of whistle. It is exceptional. And that's the keyword. Exception. Anyone can reach very broad vocal range, but very few can actually sing beautifully. So I'm still not very thrilled about "range". Cheers. :)
MrPzyt 1 month ago
@tiatrips I've just experimented. Got tension in my larynx like a hell, but I've just hit notes from A1 to C#6. So what? I normally consider useful range between roughly D2 and D5. The fact that I forced myself to hit those notes with whistle register I personally don't consider as having 4 or more octaves. With some training anyone can make those high pitched sounds.What counts to me is range in which one can make diverse palette of timbres and dynamics which is questionable with whistle.
MrPzyt 1 month ago
Thanks, Mojopin, to you, and Tiatrips, for explaining everything. Both of you have really cleared things up, regarding exactly how many notes make up one octave. I agree with.what you said about Michael's vocal range without his falsetto. Do you know what his TOTAL range would have been, if ALL of the vocal registers (Chest Voice, Head Voice....etc.) were included? Do you think it might have been over 4 octaves? Not sure, but maybe....
Administrator688 1 month ago
@Administrator688 hmm i guess maybe at least half octave from his head voice/falsetto singing voice...but really we should just count his chest voice...he already had an impressive range without using too much falsetto...but, as the voice gets older people will use falsetto to hit those notes they cant hit with a younger voice....also (the singer.freddie mercury smoked and drank beer and had an impressive range right into his 40s...(.
Mysterywhiteboy78 1 month ago
Thanks, Mojopin, to you, and Tiatrips, for explaining everything. Both of you have really cleared things up, regarding exactly how many notes make up one octave. I agree with.what you said about Michael's vocal range without his falsetto. Do you know what his TOTAL range would have been, if ALL of the vocal registers (Chest Voice, Head Voice....etc.) were included?
Administrator688 1 month ago
false, that's an F3. Thank you JeniusJJ. That is all.
Kasket1006 1 month ago
Take that F1 up to a F3. Lol, you wanna hear an F1, go search for TayZonday...
jeniusjj 1 month ago
wow. my range is only E2-F5 :p uggh i love u mj!
MJInvivible99 1 month ago
Mariah Carey is a WOMAN, that's partly why she can hit those "whistle"-pitch notes. Plus, she had a lot of Opera, and classical, training in her background. That's how she got her extensive vocal range. Michael also had a VERY extensive range - for a man.
Administrator688 1 month ago
@Administrator688 @MrPzyt adam lopez, he has the guinness record "highest note ever produced"
his range is from Eb2- Eb8 six octaves and also has whistle register
david19957 1 month ago
oh god, i love michael so much
fruitbat816 1 month ago
I can read a lots of B/S about 6 octave vocal ranges not only in MJ context. They all false. No human has that kind of range. Average, untrained person would have 1.5 to 2.5 octave range. Somehow skilled 3 to 3 and something. I don't know what some exceptional voices are capable of, but it's hard to imagine someone reaching 4 octaves. That kind of voice would have to be able to sing from low end of bass to top of soprano range. Hard to imagine, isn't it?
MrPzyt 1 month ago
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@MrPzyt I agree with you but there ARE a few people with 4 octave ranges in their full-voice. David Lee Roth, while not a great singer, has G1-G5, Dan Arlie has G1-G5, Ville Valo has F1-F5, Phil Anselmo has F#1-F#5, Mark Slaughter has A1-A5, and Axl Rose has a massive F1-G5. All of these singers (excluding Mark Slaughter) are naturally baritones of some kind with tremendous high extensions.
Danerage 1 month ago
It's much rarer for a tenor to have this kind of range because they lack the low extension required, and high range is much easier to develop than low range is. A few other near four octave singers are Billy Gibbons (Bass, E1-Eb5), Mike Patton (Baritone, G#1-G5), David Coverdale (Baritone, G#1-F#5), Rob Rock (Low Tenor, G#1-F#5), Hansi Kursch (High Baritone, Bb1-G#5), among others.
Danerage 1 month ago
@MrPzyt 'Mariah Carey possesses a 5-octave vocal range,[129][230][231] and has the ability to reach notes beyond the 7th octave.[232][233] from wikipedia
Beautyelenas 1 month ago
@MrPzyt 4 octaves isn't that hard to believe for someone with training. Middle C is C4. An octave either way is C3 and C5. Most guys can drop to the C2 without too much of an issue and trained singers can get somewhere up to the middle of the C5 octave without an issue. That's already 2.5. Depending on the actual voice type of the singer, the lower of higher register expands and makes 4, or close to it, possible.
tiatrips 1 month ago
Micheal cant sing F1. Thats just congestion in his larynx
soulsetsmysoulonfire 1 month ago
Adam Lopez has RANGE.... but is he a great singer? HMmmmmm questionable.
chawlaybua 1 month ago
at about 1:35 in "speed demon" he has a very high voice watch?v=339fYyhbfg0
piou77piou 1 month ago
Just goes to show you: range isn't everything. Michael sang beautifully as a boy but by the time he was in his late 20's he was reduced to warbles, screeches and grunts
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@bkmk777 I very STRONGLY disagree with you, when it comes to Michael's adult singing voice. He STILL sounded great (and sang BEAUTIFULLY, I might add) at the age of 50 years old!!! And, this was during (sadly) his final rehearsals for "This Is It." He ALWAYS had a beautiful singing voice, throughout ALL stages of both his life, AND his career. He changed his style of singing as he grew up, and, as different styles of music changed - over the years. He didn't just sing one way all the time.
Administrator688 2 months ago
@bkmk777 he still has a great voice though
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Danerage 1 month ago
@bkmk777 Screeches and grunts were something he did, but you can't deny he had complete control over his voice, and could sing some really clear, full high notes, with an agility no one has ever showed before him, he was so powerful when needed, yet so controlled when he had to sing soft and light parts. He was just a master of his craft, every singer should listen to his beautiful tecnique, sometimes listening to a good singer is better than practicing hours and hours.
arcuz92 2 weeks ago
@arcuz92 Apparently you didn't see the Jacksons 25th anniversary special where Jermaine had to cover most of the lead vocals and Michael's few attempts were shaky and off key. As I already acknowledged, he had a great voice when he was a kid.The bottom line is: his biggest fans see past all the flaws and idolize him just as Elvis fans will claim that he was the greatest singer more because they identify with the image than because of any dispassionate technical analysis. To each their own.
bkmk777 2 weeks ago
@bkmk777 Apparently I saw much more stuff than you did. Are you really implying he was bad at singing 'cause in a performance at 40 years old dancing and singing at the same time he was fatigued and couldn't sing? Stop this bullshit please. It is pretty well known that the 25th anniversary was the lowest point in his career, and that he wasn't that good at singing live past his 30's, but still he was a great great singer, and you understand it seeing performances of him not dancing.
arcuz92 2 weeks ago
@arcuz92 I don't think Michael sang badly, during his "30th Anniversary" T.V. Special, at all. The way he sang "I'll Be There" - and then....hitting those high notes towards the end of that song - WOW!!! He was in his early 40's, and STILL had a great voice.
Administrator688 2 weeks ago
@Administrator688 Man, I'm not saying at all he didn't have a great voice or anything like that, I was just saying that it's wrong to judge him for that performance as we all know he wasn't at his best, but still, as you said, he managed to nail a good part of his live vocals, even with the dancing, fatigue, and not being on tour-form. I believe he was just great, with an amazing gift in his voice, and complete control over it, which is something you don't see around a lot.
arcuz92 2 weeks ago
@bkmk777: Great Synopsis. Thanks.
YoungAtHeart1941 1 week ago
@bkmk777 Singing Michael's song about the Ghost of Jealousy. You know Elvis couldn't hit the ranges as Michael Jackson. That's just one of the reasons Michael was loved worldwide, and packed out stadiums all over the world. Elvis did not have a crossover following. I admire Elvis's gospel roots & his gift, but Michael's gift was measured out more to him. Sadly, the enemy of our soul targeted & destroyed them both.
besdogbuddy 1 week ago
His first advantage is the natural speed of his voice. Michael Jackson has the abillity to sing in STACCATO, and sing complex rhythms in perfect timing....Jackson's second advantage as a singer is his range. Michael Jackson's natural vocal range, before he breaks off into FALSETTO, goes from two E's below middle C, to two B's above middle C or 44 notes"
beebah90 2 months ago
I don't really know much about vocal range, although i find it interesting. This is what his vocal coach, Seth Riggs said about MJ and his voice
"Michael Jackson, described by his vocal coach, Seth Riggs, as a high tenor, was declared the 11th best vocalist in contempary music, according to MTV's 22 Greatest Voice in Music. He has recieved many awards for his vocal performance through-out his career.
Technically, Michael Jackson has one of the finest voices in contempary music.
beebah90 2 months ago
yeah, of course thats F2
RLosure23432234523 2 months ago
What an interesting Video. How were the notes counted, adding up to 4.6 octaves? There are some comments posted (in regards to this, and other Videos) that I've read, giving Michael credit for having a range of 3.5 to 4.0 octaves, or less. And, the notes go from Eb2, to HIGHER than C6. What is really the correct vocal range, and, what are the correct notes? I'm confused, not sure who - or what - to believe. Could someone post the correct notes, and range, for this Video? Thanks.
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4.6 Octaves Damn. But then again when your father takes a belt to you at a tender age you'll do whatever to make it stop. If his father pushed him in sports am sure he would've been great too.
born912 3 months ago
F1 is F2 and it's in vocal fry
cynnthemanevolant 3 months ago
@cynnthemanevolant Still counts as a note, technically.
jayySC2 3 months ago
@jayySC2 vocal fry has never been considered part of one's range.
cynnthemanevolant 3 months ago
Absolutely incredible vocalist. A man with so much Soul whichever note he chose to sing. God gifted.
thetifosi 3 months ago
Thats F2, Im sure
SuperParisprince 3 months ago
wat about "butterflies"?
mjthegreatest123 3 months ago
Eb5:Will you be there (1991)...i want to hear how other singers sing this note....any links please :)
MrBuzzialdrin 3 months ago
lol @ the first note
musicbabylove1 3 months ago
to the 8 people who disliked this...
you are a peanut with no nut :)
fluffycat9121 4 months ago
I dont understand vocal range like i dont know whats the highest or lowest or none of that can someone please explain it to me?
ChrisBrownsGirl17 4 months ago
@ChrisBrownsGirl17 the lowest note in a persons natural singing voice to the highest measured in octaves an octave is 8 notes ( low to high ,c,d,e,f,g,a b,c) to have a 4 octave voice is pretty incredible for a male singer...4 octaves would be from low to high a 32 notes
mojopin70 1 month ago
@mojopin70 Forgive me, but an octave (C to C) is actually 12 notes. The semitones in between make it 12. 4 octaves means he is capable of hitting 48 notes. Unless of course, someone is nitpicking and considers the octave note of C1 and the lowest in C2 the same.
tiatrips 1 month ago
@tiatrips yes i know but that would just confuse the guy i was trying to explain it to hehe...
mojopin70 1 month ago
@mojopin70 Ah. He's sort of right if he said the scale is 8 at least. Lol.
tiatrips 1 month ago
@tiatrips @mojopin70 The comments posted between the two of you give different numbers for how many notes make up one octave. In one of my previous comments, I ask: "How were the notes counted, adding up to 4.6 octaves?" And then, these statements: "There are some comments posted (in regards to this, and other Videos) that I've read, giving Michael credit for having a range of 3.5 to 4.0 octaves, or less. I'm confused, not sure who - or what - to believe." What's Michael's TRUE range?
Administrator688 1 month ago
@Administrator688 Based on the video, he has a little over 4 and two-thirds octaves of range. 12 notes in an octave, and the two octaves that aren't full have 8 notes. However, with the one correction I saw on his lower register of notes, F3, instead of F1, he has about 2 and two-thirds octaves of range. With the comments about what the lower note actually is, it's hard to say. I need a keyboard so I can actually match the notes up.
tiatrips 1 month ago
@Administrator688 Also, the notes are counted on the chromtic scale, using middle C on a piano or musical staff as C4. All the notes above that are one octave, starting over with C5 on the next C. There are 8 notes in a sung major scale, but 12 notes that make up the octave (C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, A#, B). The 12 notes is what is gone by when counting an octave. Then some math has to be done for someone who doesn't have a full octave on the end of their range.
tiatrips 1 month ago
@Administrator688 before i was trying to explain to a guy that 1 octave is 8 notes to not confuse things and just x 4 ( 4 octaves) but if we are getting technical 1 octave is 12 notes so 4 x 12 =.48 notes ( not 32)......and that gives you the number of notes in a 4 octave voice that a person would/should be able to hit .3.5 would be 3.5 x 12= 42?
mojopin70 1 month ago
@Administrator688 incidently jeff buckley the american singer/guitarist had close to a 4 octave voice i believe also....
mojopin70 1 month ago
@mojopin70 @tiatrips ....Also, would either one of you be able to clear up the confusion as to what the correct range is, as well as the correct number of octaves, shown in this Video? That would certainly help, a LOT, and, your help - along with your viewpoint concerning this subject matter - would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Administrator688 1 month ago
@Administrator688 hi,1 octave is 8 notes but as tiatrips said 12 with the ( sharps/flats) included which are chromatic notes ... c,b,d,e,f,g,a,b,c ( whole notes) c,c#/,d,d#,e,f,f#,g,g#,a,a#,b ( full 12 notes with half notes or semitones) so MJ wouldve been able to hit any of those notes in 1 octave ,4 octaves for a male voice is a lot from lowest note in his voice to the highest ( without falsetto) i dont know how many octaves he had, but im guessing it wouldve been around 4.
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Ok, so correction, based on this...
Maybe from an A2 (possibly can be made musically viable) through to an Eb5. Falsetto through to a C6 as is. Not too shabby still.
He was a great singer and had interesting tones in interesting ranges but a ridiculous range he didn't have. Just saying it like it is.
Typhoon792 4 months ago
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Typhoon792 4 months ago
so how many octaves is it?......can anybody tell
mjthegreatest123 4 months ago
@mjthegreatest123 says 4.6 at the end..
Mallice88 4 months ago
@Mallice88 hmmmm........so is it really rare?......or is it common fr ppl to hav such an octave range.......
mjthegreatest123 4 months ago
@mjthegreatest123 4.6 is pretty rare, its rumoured Mariah Carey carrys a 5 octave range and she is absolutley fantastically gifted, so 4.6 for a male who is raw talent is amazing. I think his pitching timing and his whole persona add alot to his performances, a great voice just isnt enough but Michael had it all and he was one of the greatest dancers to ever grace a stage, so yeah - he was rare.
Mallice88 4 months ago 14
@Mallice88 thanx fr explaining
mjthegreatest123 4 months ago
@Mallice88 it's mostly falsetto; his true range was F2-G#5.
TheRockLover1000 4 months ago 15
@TheRockLover1000 I really didn't know that. How interesting....and, thanks for explaining.
Administrator688 4 months ago
@Administrator688 His lowest note was in that warmup, and his G#5's were at the end of Dirty Diana. His "Ows!" are mostly falsetto. Michael was a high tenor than became a Standard Tenor as he aged.
TheRockLover1000 4 months ago 2
@TheRockLover1000 Yeah I agree. I mean in falsetto he could hit B5 indeed. But in chest voice, I'd give him up to G5 also, still impressive.
ItsADarkKnight2nite 3 months ago
@ItsADarkKnight2nite Yes, his voice certainly was great.
Administrator688 3 months ago
@TheRockLover1000 so falsetto is not range !?
beyonceboy100 3 weeks ago
@Mallice88 there is a singer by the name of Adam Lopez who has a 7 octave range
harajukuphantom 2 months ago
@Mallice88 it is not rumored it is true, mariah carey has a 5 octave range:)
(E2-G7) studio
(G#2-G#7) live
pattyjcastillo1994 1 month ago
@Mallice88 Yes, it does. But, I don't know if that was actually true. If it was, then....that's amazing!!!
Administrator688 4 months ago
It's an F2 not an F1, and a bad one, too.
arcimagess 4 months ago
@arcimagess it was from him warming up
Tiyamjfan1 2 months ago
@Tiyamjfan1 Kinda acceptable then.. KINDA! :P
arcimagess 2 months ago
HE CaN SING IN C6 Which means he can hit higher ...
BaSsGaZ 4 months ago
Wow. An F1 you say?
StudioGoldsmith 4 months ago
That was in fact a C6. It is falsetto, but it is indeed a C6. And there isn't an F1 as many of the previous said, but he could definitely reach B2. And as far as high notes he can in fact belt out in chest/full/regular voice up G5. Falsetto nearly an octave higher so yes, 3 octaves sounds about right for Mike indeed! ;) great video!
ItsADarkKnight2nite 4 months ago
O.O he hited a Bb5 belted?
andrestreetdance 5 months ago
New record of the most Mikegasms ever, at once.. Goes to ME *-* <3 His voice.. Oh god..
xxsweetnsour49xx 5 months ago
His highest note in song was B#5,that's not C6.
VaagnPetrosyan 5 months ago
It's an F2, not an F1.
arcimagess 5 months ago
Almost all the high notes here are falsetto. Mike could never hit a C6. The highest recorded note hit in Full voice is B5. Mike's highest recorded note is G#5 from Dirty Diana. (Sha'mone! yelps). Compare those strained yelps to the stuff here. It's obvious it's falsetto.
TheRockLover1000 5 months ago
@TheRockLover1000
I doubt that MJ could ever hit a B5 in full voice when his falsetto B5 sounds strained.
shacks29 5 months ago
@shacks29 Probably not. I was saying, the highest note recorded by any man in full voice is a B5. :D Mike probably goes out at A5. His highest recorded is a G#5. :D
TheRockLover1000 5 months ago
F1? Bahahahahahahahahahha. Michael was a high tenor, I'd be damned if he can get a F1. That's Low Baritone territory. And all his C6's are complete falsetto, the highest notes Michael Jackson has in Mixed (AKA head Voice, what you guys are referring to) are a couple of G#5's from the End of "Dirty Diana". Mind you, it's still a pretty impressive note.
TheRockLover1000 5 months ago
F1? That's an F2. Surely there is someone on YouTube who gets the low notes right! LOL!
MythsMagicMadness 5 months ago
@blacklightning20101 head voice connects to the chest voice when you go from falsetto to chest or visa versa it doesn't connect. You can hear a flip
jerichasmith 5 months ago
@aMadMansMusic it was a c6 man i just did it on the piano with him singing . it is highier than earth song part whis is bb5-b5 and michael could reach lower notes too like f1 when he was older
gurhan100 5 months ago
The "C6" was a C5 and the "F1" was an F2. He did not have a 5 octave range, it was 3. Impressive, but 3. Not even Mercury achieved 5, haha.
aMadMansMusic 5 months ago
@aMadMansMusic Mercury's vocal range was C#2-F5; 3.5 octaves. F6 in falsetto from a short squeak during a live Under Pressure Performance. The C#2 was spoken. His lowest sung note is an F2 from the Backing Opera vocal in Bohemian Rhapsody.
TheRockLover1000 5 months ago
Where's Human Nature?
RPD1175 6 months ago
this was made exactly a year ago today
WorldOfBenji 6 months ago
What about the middle 8 in Speed Demon from 1.39 to 1.58 if you look up the song. How high does that go?
AlanBurtonSinger 6 months ago
wow f1
MsDemiLovatoo 6 months ago
Amazing<3
LARoseJaay 6 months ago
Michael's real range is F2 to Bb5 (3.4 coctaves). The C6's are exclamations. I think he did hit an E2 in the studio. It was said that his full range was E2-C6.
ThePianoguy89 6 months ago
@ThePianoguy89 The C6 is falsetto, yep. Bb5 is a really high note, even for a High Tenor like Mike.
TheRockLover1000 5 months ago
@TheRockLover1000 I knew it was a falsetto, but it is with exclamation because it was sung or sustained.
ThePianoguy89 5 months ago
That was more like an F#2.
Jouwl 6 months ago
what about Human Nature by michael? he hit some high notes in that.
kahiauandkeeaola808 6 months ago
There's no F1. It's only an F2.
BlackLightning20101 6 months ago 48
@BlackLightning20101 that';s why I was like.. OMG, F1?? too low!!
RaciouS91 6 months ago
@RaciouS91 I mean it's possible to sing F1. But Michael Jackson? No way...he was a straight-up tenor.
BlackLightning20101 6 months ago
@BlackLightning20101 He was actually a bass.
No joke.
jayySC2 5 months ago
@jayySC2 Really? It's interesting that you brought that up because I did some digging and I found out that he was a baritone who felt that singing tenor was more commerical.
It's incredible that someone with such a high speaking voice was a baritone.
BlackLightning20101 5 months ago
@BlackLightning20101 Jackson wasn't any sort of a Baritone, mate. He started out as a Child Soprano, and when his voice matured in puberty it still remained pretty high; he then became a High Tenor. However, due to age his voice gradually lowered into a Standard Tenor.
TheRockLover1000 5 months ago
@TheRockLover1000 Oh ok...I was just sharing what I had heard. Thanks for correcting me.
BlackLightning20101 5 months ago
@jayySC2 WORD. ON SOME BARRY WHITE SHIT.
bigfatchodez 5 months ago
@BlackLightning20101 jajaja is true
thehorrocruxes 4 months ago
F1 IS DE FORMULA 1 ,AUTO CARS COMPETION LOL
thehorrocruxes 4 months ago
@thehorrocruxes It is also a note
kristophize 4 months ago
R.I.P. King of Pop-MJ You're still the wonderful, brother man out there.
irismey 6 months ago
That first note is F2
JJLopesz 6 months ago 16
a lot of times they adjusted his vocals with a machine even though we know MIke can go pretty high, he has never sung the low vocals live.
TheEchovoices 6 months ago
michael was just inhuman
He had a beautiful vocal range
I wish I had one like his but I have no idea what my range is
angelzplay2000 6 months ago
I love when he gets it to a point where it sounds like an angelic chorus, I love a man with a voice like his but he was the only one with that voice, so I love him and only him.
:) :)
MsCavalia 6 months ago
I love how he can switch his voice to different ranges at different times
MsCavalia 6 months ago
What about butterflies?
rizzy252 6 months ago
@rizzy252 i was going to say the same thing. i think that's the highest i've heard him sing - one of the very last runs, at around 3:52 in butterflies.
shanatelevision 6 months ago
It should be since F2 and I'm sure he had some whistles/screams, like D7 Madonna's : >
Fangir120 7 months ago
I'm pretty sure he hit a E6 in Dont Stop Till You Get Enough?
slxdragon 7 months ago
@slxdragon Really? Do you really think so? He already had a very high range, but I didn't know, exactly, how far up it went. He was a much better singer than most people gave him credit for, especially during his adult life.
Administrator688 7 months ago
C6!? What the hell.... Michael was a genious!
Droamen 7 months ago
4.6 octaves amai men kloten
tuner1346 7 months ago
the HIGHEST is The Way You Make Me Feel - he goes up to a E6, perhaps F6. Just before the backing vocals pause and there's just the background beat.
77fthg33 7 months ago
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@77fthg33 WOW!!! I didn't even know that. Hmm....how interesting. Are those upper notes you mention classified as being in the "whistle"-pitch register? I have been wondering if Michael, in his whole entire career, would have EVER had the ability to "whistle." If he ever did, that's amazing.
Administrator688 7 months ago
@77fthg33 Falsetto; bro.
TheRockLover1000 5 months ago
Also, you forgot the song 2000 watts as one of his lowest.
ched101287 7 months ago
@Hippieforce Yeah! I was expecting for that song too! His falsetto there was so high & daring that other male singers might fail to try. I wonder if J. Timberlake, Usher or Babyface can hit those highest notes from butterflies. (^_^d
ched101287 7 months ago
michael jackson for eternity <3
SandyandFabi 8 months ago
At 1:54 to 1:56 he hits a very low note for him from the backround!!!
What note is this?
MJFAN684 8 months ago
At 1:54 to 1:56 he hits a very low note for him from the backround!!!
MJFAN684 8 months ago
MJ was a bass, google it ;P
jayySC2 8 months ago
You can also see an f#5 on thriller
MJFAN684 9 months ago
In the ooooooooooooother video Michael Jackson studio vocal range
MJFAN684 9 months ago
what about speed demon...
mattduderock 9 months ago
LEGEND R.I.P MJ xx
sophie96299 9 months ago 2
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even mike knows black shitstains are ugly ass fuck your skin your noses slaves and faggots are what i call blacks or african slaves
1900MOVIES 9 months ago
please listen scream at 2:07 and superfly sister when he says "g'on now" and tell me what notes are
MJFAN684 9 months ago
Maybe he starts with an f#2 byt he finishes with an f2
MJFAN684 9 months ago
Very interesting video and discussion. Interesting to learn more about MJ and music in general. Thanks for sharing. MJ had an amazing voice and ability to sing such a wide range of music styles.
paradais2 10 months ago
I said blendistars just look in the other video of MJ vocal range and you will see from 7:47 to 7:51 and it is NOT in chorus, it is in high notes.
MJFAN684 10 months ago
you got it all wrong.
Robbledinooo 10 months ago
Look Michael Jackson did not use falsetto for thriller, beat it, bille jean, bad, dangerous, and many more, this is refering to when he belts the chorus, its full chest voice, but his tone and his voice is very pure and light that it sounds like falsetto, to hear clearly examine his voice in the accapella of billie jean.
blendistars 10 months ago
@blendistars he used it live in the reunion show with his brothers and alos some america show and butterflies i think.
Godwill3 7 months ago
@Godwill3 he did use falsetto because it requires skill, but i dont like it when people miss judge when he uses it and it make seem as if hes not as good
blendistars 7 months ago