I consider Palestrinas version of the Kyrie to be most supreme. Most aren't aware that the catholic church was opposed to his compositions. Most chant of the time were monophonic reinforcing the idea of 1god of the christians. He created masterpieces using polyphonic harmony in harmony with respect for multiple realities to the One Source.
Well, I was only copying what's in the little booklet that came with the CD.
Thinking about it, it makes sense that all of it is in Greek (given that "Khristos" has the vocative "Khriste"); but given that Latin ("Christus") also has the vocative ("Christe"), and that a lot of Latin ecclesiastical and scientific terms come from the Greek -- quite a lot of them being direct transltierations from one alphabet to another -- it wouldn't take much to believe that it's in two languages.
@2008805 This liturgical song is the Catholics' common linkage to the Orthodox Churches before and after the Schismatic separation of the Western (Roman) and the Eastern (Greek) Orthodox Churches.
@cooljason78 not so sure...possibly it just means that the Church wanted to truly express complete sorrow for sin and dependence on God: "Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us; Christ have mercy on us, Christ have mercy on us, Christ have mercy on us; Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us"...
@cooljason78 yes, you are correct. I took a music theory class and we studied this kyrie, and like all, they are in 3 parts to symbolize the holy trinity.
@weplaytheguitar No. This "Kyrie", as this type of composition is called, is music for the LITURGY OF THE MASS. The 3 SECTIONS (Kyrie eleison / Christe eleison / Kyrie eleison) heard in this "Kyrie" music correspond to the "Kyrie eleison / Christe eleison / Kyrie eleison" SECTIONS of the LITURGY OF THE MASS.
The SPOKEN "Kyrie" liturgy repeats the words of each SECTION exactly 3 times (symbolizing the Trinity). But in a polyphonic piece, no such formula is followed.
@weplaytheguitar There's no need to resort to Trinity symbolism to account for the 3 sections (Kyrie-Christe-Kyrie) in the music. There's a much more obvious explanation. The 3 sections in the music correspond to the 3 sections (Kyrie-Christe-Kyrie) in the Mass liturgy that the music serves.
This selection from this particular Mass gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. Particularly the part at 3:10. Would love to hear this most moving a capella work performed live someday!
Unbelievable. This will be my wedding song...
folderol123 6 months ago
Absolutely stunning! Godlike music and fantastic performance.
TheKiriru 1 year ago 2
where i can, find partitures of this song?
exariabull 1 year ago
sweet ending
markvking 1 year ago
me encantó
F3LIXP3P3WARRIOR 1 year ago
I consider Palestrinas version of the Kyrie to be most supreme. Most aren't aware that the catholic church was opposed to his compositions. Most chant of the time were monophonic reinforcing the idea of 1god of the christians. He created masterpieces using polyphonic harmony in harmony with respect for multiple realities to the One Source.
ZenAuraRaks 2 years ago
I absolutely love this song... it SOO beautiful. Sometimes I sing along with it and make up my own lines.
thebestsexcapade1999 2 years ago
None of the Kyrie is in Latin. "Kyrie eleison, Christe eleison, Kyrie eleison" is all Greek.
The closest equivalent in Latin is "Miserere Domine, Miserere Christe, Miserere Domine."
2008805 2 years ago 2
Well, I was only copying what's in the little booklet that came with the CD.
Thinking about it, it makes sense that all of it is in Greek (given that "Khristos" has the vocative "Khriste"); but given that Latin ("Christus") also has the vocative ("Christe"), and that a lot of Latin ecclesiastical and scientific terms come from the Greek -- quite a lot of them being direct transltierations from one alphabet to another -- it wouldn't take much to believe that it's in two languages.
jamesS0289 2 years ago
@2008805 This liturgical song is the Catholics' common linkage to the Orthodox Churches before and after the Schismatic separation of the Western (Roman) and the Eastern (Greek) Orthodox Churches.
Nonie46 7 months ago
stunning!
waves4amber 2 years ago
thanks for posting and the facts are interesting
sandrojaeggi 2 years ago
no one he was the poster child for catholic church composers
worldfest 3 years ago
correct me if I'm wrong. This song has 3 parts (tertiary form) to symbolize the holy trinity?
cooljason78 3 years ago 4
It's very probable... I don't know that for sure, though. :)
jamesS0289 3 years ago
You are correct. Kyrie Eleison contains 3 reiterations of each set (3 sets) for the completion of perfect Trinity.
2008805 2 years ago
@cooljason78 not so sure...possibly it just means that the Church wanted to truly express complete sorrow for sin and dependence on God: "Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us; Christ have mercy on us, Christ have mercy on us, Christ have mercy on us; Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us, Lord have mercy on us"...
pppemberley 1 year ago
@cooljason78 : No...It is 6 Part; SATTBB
skinnypez 1 year ago
@cooljason78 yes, you are correct. I took a music theory class and we studied this kyrie, and like all, they are in 3 parts to symbolize the holy trinity.
weplaytheguitar 1 year ago
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@weplaytheguitar No. This "Kyrie", as this type of composition is called, is music for the LITURGY OF THE MASS. The 3 SECTIONS (Kyrie eleison / Christe eleison / Kyrie eleison) heard in this "Kyrie" music correspond to the "Kyrie eleison / Christe eleison / Kyrie eleison" SECTIONS of the LITURGY OF THE MASS.
The SPOKEN "Kyrie" liturgy repeats the words of each SECTION exactly 3 times (symbolizing the Trinity). But in a polyphonic piece, no such formula is followed.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@weplaytheguitar There's no need to resort to Trinity symbolism to account for the 3 sections (Kyrie-Christe-Kyrie) in the music. There's a much more obvious explanation. The 3 sections in the music correspond to the 3 sections (Kyrie-Christe-Kyrie) in the Mass liturgy that the music serves.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
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wcbroccoli 1 year ago
This selection from this particular Mass gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. Particularly the part at 3:10. Would love to hear this most moving a capella work performed live someday!
melman74b 3 years ago
one of my favourite of Palestrina's
camasta23m 3 years ago
Much thanks for the analysis; ...very moving peice.
Shawn1440936 3 years ago