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  • If anyone's up for a 360 demo group, share your gamertags.

    Spartan Kim 275

  • i played BC1 and was amazingly impressed with the micro destruction capability. As you stated, vehicles to play a main role in the game and i am very excited to see what BC2 (already have it pre-ordered for the PS3 :D) MW2 on the otherhand, in my opinion, disappointed me when i bought it for the 360. when i saw people using 2 shotguns (one in each hand?? wtf were they thinking?!?), the chopper gunner/ac130, and the nuke, i soon became very disappointed with the game.

  • only thing mw2 wins with is with thescopes......

  • If Bad Company had their trailers running even in the movie theater like the MW2 then yes it would sell. But if not, then the sales of MW2 will outnumber it. Lot of people dont do their research like me. They see a big billboard of a game title they buy the game. Bad Company 1 didnt have any comercials at all. I never seen anywhere advertisment like for MW2. Who agrees with me that BAd Company was much better game? Guess like 85% of people. SO lets show them this by buying the game PC gamers!!!!

  • I think it is hard to compare. MW2 is a paintball match not a war. ITs bullshit runn and gunn, but bad company is more of a being there game. So much going around u even tho its on huge map. MW2 maps are small and no vehicles. The only thing I hope is that the sales are gonna outdue MW2. Why? BEcause then there will be competition. Since sales is what really counts for the game's profile. If it doesnt sell good well, it can be better but not more popular. Many people just know about MW2 thats Y!

  • i agree bad company seem much better already bored of mw2. bad company is also more tactical so more relestic

  • they are both freaky awesome games... but b-company kicks mw2s ass anyday

  • I also think bad company is the better game but I still like call of duty more. Either way im getting both of these games. :)

  • I've followed both games on X360 over several years and by far, have always had more fun with the Battlefield series. Way more realistic. Call of Duty is just I kill you, Your team mate kills me, the end.

  • Call of duty: modern hacking 2 and battlefield:not bad company 2:D

  • MW2 and BC2 are both good games but MW2 is too repetitive. There isn't much that is new and cmon the buildings don't even blow up. The maps are too small, people die to easily, you have barely any interactions with vehicles, and teamwork sucks. Overall it isn't truly realistic or fun. It gets boring. In BC2 the buildings collapse, grenades do damage to stuff, takes more to kill, vehicles are everywhere, teamwork is better, graphics are better so sorry MW2 fans but BC2 wins this one.

  • i like both and ive played mw2 and cod 4 and bc1 i like mw2 weapons graphics.

    i like bf how if yiu throw a grenade it actually destroys a part of a house vs no damage. like in mw2 i used an ac130 and the 25mm in real life that house wouldve been cut n half. or the 105mm rounds there shouldnt be much if anything left after 1 of thoes hits a house.

    me i like more realistic games to were its 1 to 4 shots to take some one down unless they have extra body armor. me id give mw2 a 7-8 out of 10 bf-9

  • MW2 owns it just bcz yo don't like they way people run in BC2? is that even something to complain about ?

  • @tamermarcus LMAO nuke in BFbc 2? im sure it was a typo but wow lol.

  • cod4 ftw =[)

    lol i think battlefield is way better than mw2 simply because its possible to snipe

    you can snipe in mw2 but its rediculously hard because of the recoiless assault rifles you cant get shot across the map with an ar in battlefield

  • battlefield 2 bc1 and 2 is like. BOOM!

  • i hav both games and mw2 is more fastpaced and bc is more stratgized

  • dude say what u want but i think mw2 has better grapics

  • Yea it looks that way but most of these videos werent recoreded best, watch BC2-MW2 killer trailer it shows best quality of the game so far

  • I really can't understand that? I mean, have you seen the textures on the houses, enviorment and stuff? It actually sucks pretty hard to be a game released in 2009.

  • In my opinion mw2 is the better game cause the vehicles in bc2 are too strong,

    and when you don´t get one you will die

    from one

  • well they arnt THAT strong i mean it takes like 2-3 rockest to take out a tank and the other vehicles are easy t blow up with the rocket, but for sure a vehicle never lasts on the battlefield it always finds a way to get itself blown up lol

  • Not true, If you have ANY sort of skill you'll be able to survive several vehicles. I for one destroyed a tank with nothing but a 'nade launcher.

  • @LordofWar285 lmao thats just no skill you quit that to early. And plus the vehicles being to strong is the point. And they give u anti-vehicle equipment. Especially if your a specialist just sneak up behind the tank and take it out.

  • But they give you also perks which upgrade your vehicles(plus armament,more damage,etc.).And it´s also very difficult to get behind a tank ,cause there´re snipers and engeniers all around the tanks.And even if you get behind the tank,it takes you so long to reload the rocket launcher that the guy in the tank can easily jump off after the 2nd rocket and kill you reloading the launcher

  • @LordofWar285 Well i find it easy i sneak up behind or use my c4 MAD quick and die anyways but at least i got the tank. fuck using a rocket launcher that takes 2 much time

  • @Rikuzano

    Yeah but in BC2 you need more than one package c4 like it was in BC1 so it takes you pretty long too. And the tank can also see you trough his motion sensor on the radar and than easily kill you

  • @LordofWar285 well then just c4 it really quick im pretty sure the c4 still kills it by one hit just because it has extra armor? nah the c4 does the most dmg out of every equipment and gun

  • You can't blow up buildings and shit in Mw2. I think blowing shit up is more realistic than nuking a whole battlefield and it doesn't flatten.

  • I can't wait till jan 5th when all the people who bitch about cod mw2 leave and i neva have to hear a sore loser complain again

  • The game is called modern 'WARfare' 2 yet you only use guns in MP. Is that what modern war is like? I think not, in BC2 you can use tanks, helicopters, boats, cars etc... On top I think the design for the maps are looking great. Its not camper friendly which is great so no secret hiding spots and glitches to get out of the map. Also the main reason why I prefer BC2 over mw2 is because of Dedicated servers!! No more magic bullets, or host migration during gameplay. I'm trading in my mw2 for this.

  • while i agree, i think its fair to say that

    MW2 has air support, ac130's etc. but bfbc2 is the better game. no 1887 akimbos, no nukes and no unrealistic attatchments.

  • @nitrousdaking Well idk why people talk about BC2 doesnt have campers o we do but only snipers. but we never mind them i mean ur gonna get killed anyways. and if u die u can always just get him back. people camping in BC doesnt even bother u thats why most people say we dont. But we do usually hiding in the mountains or in shadows

  • I don't mind camping as you said yourself you can hide in mountains or shadows but your more exposed out in the open instead of inside a house with like a one way entrance with a claymore next to it if you know what I'm saying. Plus if you do camp in houses I can just blow that house to peaces and destroy any cover the camper had. Not like in mw2 were predator missiles don't even penetrate wooden roofs. I like the fact that in BC or BC2 its more balanced out for offensive and defensive plays.

  • @nitrousdaking Yeah the thing with Battlefield i just dont like that once u get hit u pop up on EVERYONES screen. i mean sure its real but still. Thats the only way you would find me if i was camping and i was against you nitrous. Because you really have to look hard in BC to see someone camping remember these are huge maps i could be anywhere miles away and still have a shot on you. But thats not the way your supposed to be a sniper.

  • @nitrousdaking I Sniper's job is to Cover people if their teammates are moving into a Gold crate or capturing a Flag. Also to make sure no one sets up a bomb from a good distance. And also with the tracker lets people know where they are. With me i use the Recon class to sneak behind enemy lines with my Ghillie suit being very useful. While my team mates distract the others while i set the bomb. and i usually go through the sides and woods using the tracker letting me know where everyone is.

  • I have no problem if a sniper was camping as thats their job. It would frustrate me if someone who was a medic for example was camping and just using med kits to refill their health. As they are not helping out the team and just busy focusing on kills instead of focusing on the missions. This happens quite often in mw2. Players going for nukes and ending the game in modes like capture the flag or HQ pro. It's silly it would make sense to end the game by completing the objective, or maybe its me

  • @nitrousdaking Its really fun 2 sneak around being recon. It's like having james bond moments sneaking past by tanks and soldiers without a trace.

  • Yeah its great. So many things you do in BC games. Which is why I like playing them there's so much variety. Its also why I don't get bored of playing it too.

  • u have a good point on judging which game is better (bcbf2)

  • no u dont. the minute u get a chopper gunner or ac130, u can get the nuke super easy

  • u r most certianly right. bf bad company 2 kills mw2

  • Someone needs to learn to speak English. (julsdoc67)

  • on pc bc2 is better than modern warfare 2

    on console is mw2 better.

    bc2 is better becouse it has deticated servers. and modern warfare 2 on pc does not have deticated servers

  • I'm tired of those killstreaks and other arcade bullshit in call of duty. Battlefield games were always more entertaining and focused on tactics and balanced combat. BC2 Limited Edition all the way babe.

  • mw2 is better that is what i think i sucked online before mw2 when i got it and played online i compleatly kicked but on mw2 bc1,2 toobright of a picture mw2 awesome picture guns on mw2 are great bc2 not good

  • get a reality check bum

  • Battlefield BC2 is way better than CoD 6...

  • I think he's correct. Sometimes COD lags and I haven't seen lag in either BC1 or BC2

  • you suck

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  • Half of your video lies. U said that 5-6 bullets to kill someone is reasonable. Ill get a gun and shoot you 5 times and ur more than dead. Ive played BF1 BF2 BFBC all CODs and don't forget BF2142. In my opinion BF is for screwing around and CODs are for actually fighting realistically. Ur video makes the MW2 gameplay graphics look like shit. U probably altered them, cause ive played MW2 on all consoles and the PC version and its got way better graphics then what ur video promotes.

  • yea same goes for bc2 it has better graphics when you play the beta for yourself

  • All that and Dedicated servers. That alone = win.

  • haha are you serious?

    PS3, 360 and PC

  • batllefield difficult online?lol, because you played mw to much! battlefield= skills needed , call of duty= got lucky and you'll end first , nothing of skills needed

  • and yes i played battlefield bc 1 and 2(beta) and have mw2

  • lol, who ever says mw2 is better never played battlefield bad company 1 or 2 , even battlefield bc1 owns mw2 in online mode!!mw2 is amazing in its campaign but sucks in multiplayer, its just shoot anywhere-kill-die-respawn :p without any skills needed

  • There is Tanks, Cars, Planes, ATV, Boats, Helicopters in BC2, in MW2 there is no vehicles! Just play the beta and be amazed! MW2 is shit.

  • soooo

    mw2 has customized kill streaks and have about 5 veichles harrier pave low chopper gunnr and predator missile(not really veichle but can be driven

  • Okay, those are not actual vehicles. Those are simply more cheap kills given to you for getting kills - take no skill. Customized kill streaks, please. Kill streaks are the most unbalanced thing to be introduced to shooters.

  • My thoughts exactly...that is not a list of vehicles but of computer assisted kills via a so-called vehicle. BC2 has vehicles that YOU have to pilot/drive and get the kills with.

  • hardly called them vehicle -.-

  • does your health restore after a wile and can u lie down

  • Let say you didn't had explosives with you?

  • bc1 multiplayer is so shit shit compared to cod 4. but bc2 looks like a fucken good game, iv'e played mw2 but im definately buying bc2.

  • Battlefield Bad Company 2 wins no questions asked BF BC 2 Ftw

  • Modern warfare ! :D

  • BC is more impressive, MW is more fun.

  • i prefer mw2 much better online

  • lol have u played bad company2

  • @MrJimbosleftnut, judging by his username... no.

  • well dude i say battfield is som much better it has destrictuble enviroment and have bigger maps and stuff. call of duty is a noob version of battlefield.

  • Yeh BC1 is shit compared to MW2 but BC2 will be a lot better than MW2, all main points were given in this vid. Graphics, vehicle gameplay, improved controls, squad gameplay and overall feeling of big battlefield, enough with the frustration of camping in MW2 -.-

  • amen

  • bc1 multiplayer is rubbish

  • ive played both:

    story wise: bc1 was longer and contained a humourful and entertaining story at the same time

    gunwise: both had good guns, but mw1 had better sidearms. in bc1 multiplayer carrying a handgun will get you killed.

    multiplayer wise: i have not played mw1 multiplayer, but i do enjoy the bc1 mp.

    and as an added bonus: i love tearin down buildings, so i am loving bad company and cant wait for bc2

  • MW2 Is just running about with guns with killstreak rewards. The gamemodes are a little bit more less obvious than running about but it's still pretty much the same thing.

  • i agree bc2 kills mw2

  • played both, and love mw2. play it all the time.

    i ALSO love bc, but its not like im "addicted" to it, like mw2.

    and i also think that bc is fuckin diffecult.

    MY OPINION!

    MW2 is best..

  • @funnyvids:

    That's right, BC2 IS harder to master, and it's good like that so all CoD fanboys don't play it as they don't have the patience to get good at it...

  • If its T ill buy it if its M ill buy nomore! But BC1. Plzzz be T theyll lose fans if its M.

  • @Elpapi:

    It'll surely be rated M, but why should that lose fans?? I think it's better that all the 9-year-olds stick to CoD... Wait a second... CoD is rated M, too... Dang, so it won't throw out the 9-year-olds... :(

  • Well you see battlefield is mostly played by gamers of age 10-14 not 18+. In my research itll lose a BUNCH of fans. I asked at gamestop they said itll lose ALOT of fans. I play cod sometimes. Im picking up bfbc 1. Im not sure about 2.

  • yes, they will lose unwanted kids.

    thats exactly the point.

  • Im 14. I play mw2 && alot M games. Duyyy

  • yeah so do ten yr olds.

    get over yourself.

    at least your 14 and havent got one of those annoying whiney voices.

  • Lol i did this dude on COD was beasting and i beated his 10 kill streak he started crying & every1 was laughin, And another 1 on gears 2 i killed a 10 year old like 5 times in a row he started whining. & arguing so we quitted.

  • I love when you shoot a gun in Bad Company 2, you can hear the bullets ricochet and hit the target.

    Anybody know when the BETA ends?

  • like the 4th of next of january i think

  • @kozarac5

    This week. Doesn't that suck?

  • @LtFang299, that does suck. I wanted to play a marathon session later this week...

  • @albert275 It's not done just yet but sadly it almost is.

    What's your PSN? We could squad up tomorrow.

  • Bad Company 2 OF COURSE IS BETTER!!

  • some would say that mw2 is better because faster gameplay and more arcadey but i prefer bc2 becuase its a war sim unlike mw2 you get mw2 if you want a movie you get bc2 if you want a game

    still not sure whether bc1 or mw1 is better because they both cancel eachother out

  • I personally liked better COD 4 Modern Warfare to Battlefield Bad Company. I think Bad Company felt a bit fiddly, mostly when you were using the vehicles. The ambient destruction in Bad Company was awsome. Bad Company 2 certainly looks very good, but I don't know if is going to be as good as Modern Warfare 2 in single and multiplayer. I've played both Modern Warfare games and they really feel cool especially the second one. I can't deny I liked Bad Company too.

  • Im sure youl like bad company 2's multi player alot! as for stoy mode idk anything about so i wont try to lie to you there

  • men stop asguing about game it is all about likes and everything like that, you cannot make a person change their likes (assholes)

  • me?

  • it said gameplay moments #2

  • BAD COMPANY 2  kicks ass

    put in bad company gameplay moments

    the third down is good

  • For anyone who has seen the limited edtion trailer will the games graphics turn out to be how it was with that guy holding the pistol?

  • I tried the demo for both the first Bad Company and 1942 on 360. The shooting just felt a bit too loose on both those games.

  • yo ive played both the first bc and MW1 i like mw better cause its just more fun BC1 is too boring you have to feaking go a mile to verse another guy cause maps ARE SOO BIGG and plus mw is just purre fun man .... BC1 SNIPER RIFLES SUK SOO BAD ITS NO EVEN FUNNY

  • well patrick bach put the player count to a higher number so it should even out for you or theres still the vehicles:D and i never played mw1 so idk about that but mw2 is fun only for a small amount of time

  • everyone commenting rates any1s comments bad because they are all to ignorant to believe u....i voted a thumbs up and it evened out.......MW2 is not just a bunch of 9 yr olds spraying....yal havent even played it so stfu about MW2 cuz it kicks ass

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  • B...but smaller maps call for quicker, more tactical thinking!

    Gold Rush > crappy ol tdm

    but... COD has many strategic teamwork based modes like ground war, search and destroy, and CTF!!!!!@$!

    Boredflem1 is right about every point.

  • @albert275

    I wouldn't say cod is a bad game, but i just really don't see why its THAT popular. Its very addictive, and its not bad, but i much prefer bad company.

    Of course, my xbox 360 HAD to break the bad company 1 disc.

  • I agree with you, COD was ever hyped thats why its so popular bcz they spent for money advertising it than they did anything else thats kinda how a game gets image i guess but yea MW2 was way over hyped

  • you suck for saying bc2 is better than mw2 on mw2 there are killstreks you could get a nuke on mw2 there are good killstreaks

  • LOL in bC2 you dont need kil streaks you ca use the uav or any other vehicle for yourself and people don't find killatreak or perks realistic

  • but in bc2 you can drive tanks and a freaking attack helicopter so they are balanced on that

  • perks r stupid. bfbc2 is way more realistic in combat

  • I cannot see how people like MW2. Unless you like a unrealistic, Repetitive, 12 Year Old's game, Then fine. All people do in COD is : Camp, Use constant Kill streak's, AND ridiculous Perk's, Gun's with no recoil, Map's which are all small and badly created, WTF?

  • WTF?ya the bad company looks ok. But u can't compare that to modern warfare 2 I mean seriously.

  • In what aspects is mw2 better than bc2 i have mw2 and played bc2 beta so whats your opinion? :/

  • Back in 07 when MW came out I remember it was good, then came Bad Co and changed the way I look at shooters today. Nothing compares to the Battlefield franchise. The PS3 Beta of Bad Co. 2 is amazing!!! Go DICE!!!

  • Bad company 1 was the worst game ever MW1 was way better now what's going to change with the second ones?

    MW2 still ROCKS

  • @666x666Slipknotx MW2 sucks, its all about who stays in a corner for the longest, which team has the most m16's or 1887'sand assualt rifles, dont get me started on that.

  • Well isn't Bad compnay about the same too?

    bad company sucks nuts

  • lol they are very diff and i find myself having more fun with b2 beta than my mw2 and im good at mw2 but it gets old really fast for the online but the bright side to mw2 is the story mode which isn't all that good but makes it worth your money but you should play the bc2 beta b4 you say it sucks and youtube videos won't tell you anything really

  • I have and it sucks NUTS, my cousin had BC1 for his B-day and he didn;t like it je got MW1 and he tried out BC2 beta and he didn't like it EITHER

  • bcz its not final its still in development the final version is amazing but you can't make that call saying it sucks until it comes out, if you don't like it just leave it at that don't bash on it bcz people favor this game over mw2 for their own reasons.

  • Oh ya and if you wanna know what the graphics really look like watch the limited edtion trailer and when yo see the guy with the pistol youl know what it looks like, almost as smooth as killzone 2 if you don't like the beta then wait for the full game version im sure youl like it:D

  • lmfao mw2 rocks this shit so hard

  • how so?

  • in every wat cept vehicles

  • both games are great i like bc2 better bcz i have mw2 but mw2 is still a great game nothing wrong with it , BC2 just offers more in my opinion after playing the beta

  • you suck

  • i got beta 2 .. and believe me its better

    -need teamwork

    -alone u aint make it

    -1 shot can be deadly

    -much destruction

    -gamplay is soo awsome(not hard to control)

  • Thats what i thought to..

    3shots to the chest is definetly going to kill you, body armor or not:P

    Btw, where do you get the beta for bad company 2?

    Iwould like to see for myself wich game I like more, not have some idiot on youtube try to convince me.

  • I agree with what superstijin16 said you should most likly get BC2 and you have to pre order the game to get a code for the beta but ill let you see the rest for yourself its all on you:D

  • Are you kiddin me??-_-

    Obviously you dont play cod...

    I do and like it, but also see the flaws.

    And why would bc2 be more realistic then cod, how is throwing a health box on the floor realistic. And guns inacurate so you can take cover. and you turn around and kill the same guy with 2 rounds :S

    Battlefield is a completely different game. there is no point in comparing it with Cod Mw2. And please stop saying bc 2 is better because its not even out yet, how would you even know:P

  • thats right how would you even know you gotta wait b4 you make those judgment calls:D but for sure both games have their ups and downs i have MW2 myself and i liked it, played bc2 beta loved it! and does not take that many shots to kill a guy either

  • Is this just throwing the middle finger to MW2 or something? If you played the game you would know the sub machine guns recoil alot, and the guy was most likely using stopping power to kill with 3 shots. BC2 will be the shit too.

  • how you move on cod, it seems u are playing halo, half life, TF2, dont like it

    thats why i find bad company and every battlefield game superior... battlefield is a real war game.. i love it

  • I agree, BC2 is way better than cod MW2! Its more realistic, it looks SO much better, it sounds better, it plays better, it feels better, and you can blow down a whole structure, you can get it any vehicle,

    but you will always have those codheads, that have it in their heads cod will always be the best no matter what comes out, like BC2 for instance.

    But thats fine, people will notice the difference.

    They are both good games, just comes down to what you like better, real or fake.

  • wow u r a retard dats why ign says cod4 is better den bc1 and dats why mw2 will be a game of the year and will kick the shit out of dat shit they call a game called bc2

  • ign often puts alot of new games on top when the come out ad not just cod but what about little big planet? thats like the best example of a childish game but it got a game of the year edition bcz it was popular you can't just say that MW2 is gonna beat BC2 until that game comes out. and if you like MW2 better leave it at that don't bash on the next game simply bcz YOU don't like it

  • bfbc2 gameplay is terrible mw2 is smooth i really dont like bf gameplay so i wont like bfbc2

  • oh the beta you mean is terrible thats true but remember a trailer of a game is never as smooth and when you play it, i mean at MW2 in the video its way smoother when you play it than you see it here right? same goes for the BC2 beta and you should watch the full game version its a million times smoother im sure youl like how smooth it is there:D

  • i like bc more than call of duty, because you need a teamwork to survive.

  • dude in BC u dont need any skill all u need to do is double team. in MW2 u need skill to play. and ground vehicles ruin games. and to smashforhit you probably suck at MW2 thats the only reason ur saying that crap and it takes like weeks to get good at it so dont say crap

  • I have mw2 and it dsnt suck but i played bc2 beta and more skill is needed for that not just teamwork but stratigy also mw2 is run and gun not much more and vehicles would only ruin mw2 bcz of its small maps, so less skill is needed for that game you just run shoot die and repeat I played online alot of times and its just so easy to get kills

  • But thats just me, if you find mw2 is more challenging thats fine

  • no he's right u dont need any skill @ Mw2

  • dude what are you talking about? u need more skill in MW2 then in BC because in BC all u need to do is get in a tank and ur fine. in MW2 u have to get a 11 killstreak before u get in a vehicle

  • lol all you do in it is run shoot not much more and in BC2 you gotta think basicly bcz you die fast in both games MW2 the maps are so small all you gotta do is find someone and shoot and don't think that just bcz you can drive vehices its all easy, what about those who need to blow it up theres hella lot of skill for that no? I have mw2 myself and the aim is so easy and they die sligltly faster so wheres the skill ever needed for such fast kills

  • play BF before commenting pls. in BF tanks not so powerful you need brains so you dont get flanked by other tanks or AT. @ mw2 u just run aim and shoot or camp. zero skill is required only aim but if you thinks that's skill Hf playing mw2 brain dead person

  • LOL thank you, like it's as simple as that:D

  • lol n00b.

  • the tanks are actually not all that powerful, have you played BC or 1943? then you'll know

  • yea but wich game is more realistic in real war u dont have to get a kill streak to drive a vehicle that is y i think bf badcompany 2 is better

  • but dude u guys r saying it take like 10 shots to kill a guy in BF BC2 in real life it only takes like 3

  • people who tell you that are just tryna make the game sound unrealistic don't listen to who ever tells you that, play the beta, with 3 good shots you can kill a guy

  • Hahaha 1:45 "Drop that mother fucker!"... *THUNK*.... *POW!* and the wall blows out, that's so awsome....

  • Cod i so overated and its only noob who play the game becuase it take only like 5 in to get good at it

  • same will be with bad company 2

  • No in Bf you need skills

  • What it really comes down to is what you prefer. If you like huge open maps with lots of vehicle oriented combat, then Bad Company is for you. If you prefer small to mid sized maps with a lot of close quarters combat, then Modern Warfare 2 is for you.

  • mw2 singleplayer wins

    bc2 multiplayer wins

  • yes l agree 100% with you

  • i have MW2 but i been playing the BBC2 Beta more wich is weird

  • No it's not weird :D since I got the beta too, I do understand; it's kinda.....addictive

  • how do u get beta for ps3???

  • you have to pre order it

  • so just pre order it form like a block buster or best buy and u get the beta?