It's no wonder. I think Latin was very much influenced by the Greek language. In general, the Romans occupied the divided city-states of Greece with superior armed forces, but thei Roman culture was eventually dominated by the "superior" Greek one.
Kyrie Eleison IS GREEK!!! The fact that this phrase has been used in many catholic (and not only) christian hymns, doesn't change the origin of these words!!! "Kyrie" in Greek means "Lord" (calling Him). "Eleison" is the imperative of the verb "Eleo" which means "i give mercy". So the one who says "Kyrie eleison" (in ancient Greek), asks Lord for mercy. That's it!!!
actually "kurie eleison" comes from ancient greek and is one of the most commonly used hymns in the catholic church, so this is not really "greek" By the way it has been used by rock bands (in the movie easy rider) and most notably by death metal bands. My favourite is the opening tune of "graves of the archangels" by Dead Congregation, which is THE GREATEST greek death metal band
@uzickimajmunac Catholics do use latin, except for this part of the mass, I believe. I'm not totally sure, 'cause I'm protestant, but if I remember correctly, that's what I learned in my music history class.
@BriggsMullen pardon, my mistake. I ment to say that catholics use latin and orthodox their own language, but kyrie eleison is from greek. But thanks for imformation, I appreciate that :)
@uzickimajmunac Dude Catholics still use Latin in Mass all the time, especially during Lent. You're obviously not Catholic. We used to say the whole mass in Latin up until Vatican II. We also still use some Greek sometimes, particularly during the Kyrie in Lent. Greek was actually one of the first languages the mass was said in. Kyrie Eleison means "Lord have mercy."
John arch. the original vocal acrobat!! fates warning should bring him back. their other singer has pretty much blown his voice out. if you watch some of their more recent live videos. you will see exactly what i mean. i could never get tired of listenening to john arch. thanks for posting these great songs.
This is the song that totally got me into Fates Warning. Before that, I mostly listened to other great US classic progressive power metal like early Steel Prophet. When this song got me hooked, I instantly bought more Fates Warning albums. :) Great times!
@morgolorth Yeh and whats Ironic my old athiest drummer loves the band but how could he most of it is talking a lot of GOD and demons.Not to mention this is his Favorite song of theirs and hence the title.Nothing worse than a hypocrte musician.He says music is Spiritual well how can you if you are athiests?
@morgolorth It's actually latin. The name, and the chorus itself, comes from the dies irae, which is spoken at funerals. The chorus, "Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison" is translated to lord have mercy, christ have mercy. Somehow, knowing this origin makes the sound that much more awesome.
Also, maybe I should put in my will that I want the priest doing my funeral service to say the dies irae in this style instead
@protsimer Oh, that's weird. I just assumed it was latin because that's the language that ought to have been used by the Roman priests, who would have written the mass.
Actually, just looked this up, apparently the entire mass was still given in Latin, but Greek was an older, traditional style of giving the mass, and just the kyrie eleison part was preserved for Latin services. Food for thought, I guess.
I love the first couple Fates Warning albums. Wasn't a big fan of the technical progressive stuff, but these first through albums remind me of a cross between Iron Maiden and Queensryche.
That is exactly my thoughts it is a shame that this band and even Queensryche are not as known as they deserve! Sometimes John Arch sounds like Bruce Dickinson, and sometimes he sounds like Geoff Tate.
@Martzx3193 I dont know i think there are more of us that love this than we think it's just underground stuff it's just not marketed the same as the other bands.Also we have to remember Arch quite right when things were realy looking good.Maybe they would have if arch remained in the band because the the guardian was just such an awsome song if he came out with a nother like that who could stop them.
I think arch is way better than alder although I never heard bad fates warning but as far as iron maiden and them sounding a like early they did a little but I like the removal of the galloping beat that maiden was so prone to for so long by fates warning and I like how arch used his voice as another instrument.
@blitzspeer He definately had a way to put the words into intresting phrases thus having a broad range of changes even within one song.Alder can scream realy nice but Arches singing is just over the top.
HEHE...The first time I listen Fates Warning I though it was the band what Dickinson had before Iron Maiden or some alternative band with Dickinson in vocals...well, it happened in 1985or 86, I guess...You're not the only one who was wrong, Mr. Jesusgnr12
I don't know what kind of bands you listen to- but even the rarest stuff is on ebay one time. I haven't payed more than 20$ for any of my Cds and I really don't own much "mainstream" stuff but a shitload of classic Heavy Metal.
Btw- There's a re-release of The Spectre Within for 12$ in the shadowkingdom records shop.
@Angrist1 i have ths on a record got it when it first came out now i want it on cd to.people should always buy the music of the bands they like.i hate it when everyone says just get it for free.do you go to work for free,no .this is there job.if they can't suport themselves with there music then they will have to get a job and stop making music.
@konerak9 it wasnt easy to get when i got their 1st 3 albums from a small record store in San Diego back in '91. being a small store they had to order them for me.
@double42 You really have no idea, do you? Dude, touring costs almost as much money as it pulls in. Food, gas, electric and stage props, instrument maintenance, advertising and publicity, the special "afterparties" we have to throw for the VIP ticketholders, etc. That shit ain't free. Being a musician is hard, man.
Also, touring is all fine and good, but how do you imagine it feels to be away from home, your kids, your family, your friends, your everything for months at a time? Not great, dude.
@alexanderpyro Are you a musician ? I didn't mean to sound rude , only people Ive spoke to who know musicians would say the touring is where a lot of money comes in . There are pros and cons with almost every job , so if a musician can't tolerate being away from home for a few months then maybe they should choose anther profession .
@double42 For sure it's a big percentage of the money, but it's not a lot of money. Like 80% of a dollar is most of the money, but it's still only 80 cents. So, though you technically make a lot of money on tour, a big, huge chunk of THAT gets spent just to BE on tour. I mean, by the time you make it home, you've only got a little more than you would have made at a day job in the same amount of time lol. And touring only makes "most" of the money because people pirate music and always have :-\
Thanks for posting this. Heard them and this song on the River`s Edge soundtrack and could`nt get enough. Been thinking about this song for the last couple of days and was jones-ing. Thanks to you I got my fix.
Kyrie Eleison is also in the intro song of the anime 'Elfen Lied' called 'Lilium' :D
gotenstyle2 4 days ago
John Arch - Privileged Voice
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It's no wonder. I think Latin was very much influenced by the Greek language. In general, the Romans occupied the divided city-states of Greece with superior armed forces, but thei Roman culture was eventually dominated by the "superior" Greek one.
p.s. I'm Greek. :)
protsimer 2 months ago
@protsimer no shit!
ova69 1 month ago
evlogison...
redofdeathGR 2 months ago
heavy track. Luv this band.
noeltheshemale 4 months ago
yes kyrie eleison (κύριε ελεισον) means 'lord show mercy' το ξέρω (means i know)
costasboug2 5 months ago
m 9imizei tn prwto disko apo iced earth.... ein i idea m?
BlackMetalHunger 5 months ago
@BlackMetalHunger Sto instrumental part,nai..
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Kyrie Eleison IS GREEK!!! The fact that this phrase has been used in many catholic (and not only) christian hymns, doesn't change the origin of these words!!! "Kyrie" in Greek means "Lord" (calling Him). "Eleison" is the imperative of the verb "Eleo" which means "i give mercy". So the one who says "Kyrie eleison" (in ancient Greek), asks Lord for mercy. That's it!!!
Thank you all.
4chldad 5 months ago
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4chldad 5 months ago
re paidia pos to leei etsi to kirie eleison...XD alla daxei den peirazei akoma k me asteia profora to tragoudi ta spaei
welcometomygrave 5 months ago 2
etsi re.....ellinares gia panta na goustaroume
dimonsnight1 6 months ago 2
I'll have to be honest this isn't the best song in the album. but its still good :)
kobana23 7 months ago
actually "kurie eleison" comes from ancient greek and is one of the most commonly used hymns in the catholic church, so this is not really "greek" By the way it has been used by rock bands (in the movie easy rider) and most notably by death metal bands. My favourite is the opening tune of "graves of the archangels" by Dead Congregation, which is THE GREATEST greek death metal band
manenir 7 months ago
@manenir DO YOU SPEAK GREEK??
CHaRISmatikos 7 months ago 3
"You think i would least rate a Michelob"
butchvito 8 months ago
Great song. Great voice.
audiodead 9 months ago
wow this is shit lol
DihColorado 10 months ago
@DihColorado. I assume you meant that in a good way. Hahaha...because this song is awesome!
vindude1968 10 months ago 8
@DihColorado
Then go listen to Maroon, something that will not hurn your pussy.
VideoGameMetal01 1 month ago
@VideoGameMetal01 o by saying that ur trying to convince me that FATES WARNING is "tough man" music? roflmao
if i told u what i listen to u'd prolly piss ur panties
DihColorado 1 month ago
Christe eleison!!!
Smashing song!!
armistice07 10 months ago
this song makes me wanna watch the movie "river's edge" lol.
wingedassassins 10 months ago 2
i always thought this song was about a girl named "kyrie eleison" lol.i didn't know it means lord show mercy in greek.
wingedassassins 10 months ago
cristo ten piedad...(8)(8)
AlvaroIGuzmanV 1 year ago
This is the version played in all the contemporary Catholic masses.
BriggsMullen 1 year ago
@BriggsMullen maybe orthodox since song title is in greek and catholics dont use latin, methinks.
uzickimajmunac 1 year ago
@uzickimajmunac Catholics do use latin, except for this part of the mass, I believe. I'm not totally sure, 'cause I'm protestant, but if I remember correctly, that's what I learned in my music history class.
BriggsMullen 1 year ago
@BriggsMullen pardon, my mistake. I ment to say that catholics use latin and orthodox their own language, but kyrie eleison is from greek. But thanks for imformation, I appreciate that :)
uzickimajmunac 1 year ago
@uzickimajmunac Dude Catholics still use Latin in Mass all the time, especially during Lent. You're obviously not Catholic. We used to say the whole mass in Latin up until Vatican II. We also still use some Greek sometimes, particularly during the Kyrie in Lent. Greek was actually one of the first languages the mass was said in. Kyrie Eleison means "Lord have mercy."
thefateshavewarned 6 months ago
@thefateshavewarned oh, thanks...
uzickimajmunac 6 months ago
Hardcore badass....I LOVED this band when I was banging my head. Still love it.
craniumxd 1 year ago
bought this album when it came out, I liked the cover.
ofcourse I was an immediate fan.
saw them play in San diefo, when Psychotic Waltz opened for them.
then met and hung out with the band.
good times.
Mithrys 1 year ago
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John arch. the original vocal acrobat!! fates warning should bring him back. their other singer has pretty much blown his voice out. if you watch some of their more recent live videos. you will see exactly what i mean. i could never get tired of listenening to john arch. thanks for posting these great songs.
actionrepo 1 year ago
I put this song in my last will 15 years ago. It should be played at my funural!
Its amazing, but not the best song from the album i come to think now, but appropiate i guess.
Kolenschopper 1 year ago
Ok that realy is a different version of kryie eleison XD. But it sounds fantastic.
TR1V05 1 year ago
This is the song that totally got me into Fates Warning. Before that, I mostly listened to other great US classic progressive power metal like early Steel Prophet. When this song got me hooked, I instantly bought more Fates Warning albums. :) Great times!
SonataFanatica 1 year ago
it sounds so funny hehhehe :D baut i adore this song :D:D
konsuelo1912 1 year ago
Respond to this video...great 80s metal i was there when it was born it will never die!!!!!!
DetrunningDog 1 year ago
Arch kind of reminds me of a dickinson meets halford with the harmonies of a king diamond. The lyrics were badass also.
Sirtehndeth 2 years ago
i hear this and i remember jamming in my 85 mustang and smoking a big fat one!!!!!!
yukons95 2 years ago
john's voice makes tates and dickinson sound enemic!!!!!
yukons95 2 years ago
omg kyrie eleison is greek it means 'lord show mercy' looool
morgolorth 2 years ago 40
yeaaah!! I'm a greek so i know it!! :P :P
jimstas17 1 year ago
@morgolorth Yeh and whats Ironic my old athiest drummer loves the band but how could he most of it is talking a lot of GOD and demons.Not to mention this is his Favorite song of theirs and hence the title.Nothing worse than a hypocrte musician.He says music is Spiritual well how can you if you are athiests?
korzon 1 year ago
@korzon Most atheists aren't rational, thankfully for the rest of us.
Craigmin 1 year ago
@morgolorth it means lord HAVE mercy
firebrand420 6 months ago
@morgolorth It's actually latin. The name, and the chorus itself, comes from the dies irae, which is spoken at funerals. The chorus, "Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison" is translated to lord have mercy, christ have mercy. Somehow, knowing this origin makes the sound that much more awesome.
Also, maybe I should put in my will that I want the priest doing my funeral service to say the dies irae in this style instead
blitzforthewin 3 months ago
@blitzforthewin It's not latin. It's Greek. The chorus you also mention and translate accurately is also Greek,.
protsimer 2 months ago
@protsimer Oh, that's weird. I just assumed it was latin because that's the language that ought to have been used by the Roman priests, who would have written the mass.
Actually, just looked this up, apparently the entire mass was still given in Latin, but Greek was an older, traditional style of giving the mass, and just the kyrie eleison part was preserved for Latin services. Food for thought, I guess.
blitzforthewin 2 months ago
I love the first couple Fates Warning albums. Wasn't a big fan of the technical progressive stuff, but these first through albums remind me of a cross between Iron Maiden and Queensryche.
AceTheBlade77 2 years ago 6
That is exactly my thoughts it is a shame that this band and even Queensryche are not as known as they deserve! Sometimes John Arch sounds like Bruce Dickinson, and sometimes he sounds like Geoff Tate.
Martzx3193 2 years ago
@Martzx3193 I dont know i think there are more of us that love this than we think it's just underground stuff it's just not marketed the same as the other bands.Also we have to remember Arch quite right when things were realy looking good.Maybe they would have if arch remained in the band because the the guardian was just such an awsome song if he came out with a nother like that who could stop them.
korzon 1 year ago
I think arch is way better than alder although I never heard bad fates warning but as far as iron maiden and them sounding a like early they did a little but I like the removal of the galloping beat that maiden was so prone to for so long by fates warning and I like how arch used his voice as another instrument.
blitzspeer 2 years ago
@blitzspeer He definately had a way to put the words into intresting phrases thus having a broad range of changes even within one song.Alder can scream realy nice but Arches singing is just over the top.
korzon 1 year ago
shees i'm old i have this on vinyl STILL AWESOME
memario64 2 years ago 8
This band is awesome
FuckMunar 2 years ago
every time i see this album cover i think of that one from "Roxy Music", idk what its called cause i dont listen to them though.
Shun101010 3 years ago
it's called Avalon, i just looked it up
Shun101010 3 years ago
I love this song! =D
cnichol51 3 years ago
wow, John Arch sounds just like Bruce Dickinson on this song
Fates Warning was very good then, but I still prefer the new stuff
jesusgnr12 3 years ago
HEHE...The first time I listen Fates Warning I though it was the band what Dickinson had before Iron Maiden or some alternative band with Dickinson in vocals...well, it happened in 1985or 86, I guess...You're not the only one who was wrong, Mr. Jesusgnr12
BanOxyCred 2 years ago
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I want this song! I can't find this song to download for free anywhere : (
cnichol51 3 years ago
Why do you idiots always want songs for free?
If you like this band support them and buy the CD!
Angrist1 3 years ago 38
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Fuck you asshole I do not know anywhere to find this Abum so fuck you Angrist1.
cnichol51 3 years ago
Try the thing that you're "sufing" right now. You can get any FW record on Amazon
vaporarrow 2 years ago
or go to limewire. :D
EvilSpot 3 years ago
Limewire is evil.
theshow201 2 years ago 3
@Angrist1 I totally agree with you. Copy kills music!
futuretense84 1 year ago 2
@Angrist1
lol, I've had this CD for 25 years!
desertrat218 1 year ago
@Angrist1 I guess you buy albums that are over 50$?... Most bands I listen to are out of print so I download them
Plus at a minimum they cost 20$... I own like 26 heavy metal CD's
supmayne1 1 year ago
@supmayne1
I don't know what kind of bands you listen to- but even the rarest stuff is on ebay one time. I haven't payed more than 20$ for any of my Cds and I really don't own much "mainstream" stuff but a shitload of classic Heavy Metal.
Btw- There's a re-release of The Spectre Within for 12$ in the shadowkingdom records shop.
Angrist1 1 year ago
@Angrist1 Even some more mainstream stuff is over 20$...
What bands are you talking about?...
supmayne1 1 year ago
@Angrist1 cause most people are broke or can't find a job
motleycrue24 1 year ago
or can't find the album. I have never seen any of these albums at any stores where i live.
tom5coat 1 year ago
@tom5coat go to amazon.com you can get it for twelve bucks
motleycrue24 1 year ago
@Angrist1
yeah, you're right. If this music means something to you, support the bands/metal/scene and pay for it!
Extremmetzger 1 year ago
@Angrist1 i have ths on a record got it when it first came out now i want it on cd to.people should always buy the music of the bands they like.i hate it when everyone says just get it for free.do you go to work for free,no .this is there job.if they can't suport themselves with there music then they will have to get a job and stop making music.
mongo426 1 year ago
@Angrist1 its not that easy to get some of this shit anymore
konerak9 11 months ago
@konerak9 it wasnt easy to get when i got their 1st 3 albums from a small record store in San Diego back in '91. being a small store they had to order them for me.
TheDavis1970 10 months ago
@Angrist1 yeah , ok , like they don't make enough money from touring , fuck that shit I say
double42 11 months ago
@double42 You really have no idea, do you? Dude, touring costs almost as much money as it pulls in. Food, gas, electric and stage props, instrument maintenance, advertising and publicity, the special "afterparties" we have to throw for the VIP ticketholders, etc. That shit ain't free. Being a musician is hard, man.
Also, touring is all fine and good, but how do you imagine it feels to be away from home, your kids, your family, your friends, your everything for months at a time? Not great, dude.
alexanderpyro 8 months ago
@alexanderpyro Are you a musician ? I didn't mean to sound rude , only people Ive spoke to who know musicians would say the touring is where a lot of money comes in . There are pros and cons with almost every job , so if a musician can't tolerate being away from home for a few months then maybe they should choose anther profession .
double42 8 months ago
@double42 For sure it's a big percentage of the money, but it's not a lot of money. Like 80% of a dollar is most of the money, but it's still only 80 cents. So, though you technically make a lot of money on tour, a big, huge chunk of THAT gets spent just to BE on tour. I mean, by the time you make it home, you've only got a little more than you would have made at a day job in the same amount of time lol. And touring only makes "most" of the money because people pirate music and always have :-\
alexanderpyro 8 months ago
Interesting how his voice almost completely carries the feel of the music. Nothing at all like this today.
carcosa 3 years ago 2
Thanks for posting this. Heard them and this song on the River`s Edge soundtrack and could`nt get enough. Been thinking about this song for the last couple of days and was jones-ing. Thanks to you I got my fix.
HarryBryantnxs6 3 years ago 2
Arch is outstanding!
proggoth 3 years ago 3
Aarghhhhhhhhhh !!!
Real good ol' Fates Warning time !!!
Sorry, but I have nothing with the new shit, this is what FW should stand for !!!
Bridge1961 3 years ago 3