Part 4 - Are We Living in the Last Days? - Billy Crone

[mystic81006]

This is why its always best to dissable any on star system from your car.Its simple to do and is just a add on to your car.

[peraspira]

Religion by fear. No thanks.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding" Proverbs 9:10. Do you understand this verse?

[peraspira]

@vpartwork Yes. It was aimed at docile people who could be easily duped. "You fear me or else you will have very bad things happen to you". Children and incredibly stupid adults are unduley influenced by such statements. If you respect someone who wants you to be afraid of him, then have at it!

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -So it is unecessary to fear and respect what is greater than you? the very thing that created you?

[peraspira]

@vpartwork Religion by fear of a god who will do bad things to you if you do not obey that god is one theological viewpoint. Religion by love of a god is another. You apparently prefer the former. Christians, too, believe a man who said that he was the only way to God was telling the truth as the foundation, in fact, of their religion. People who are not Christian do not believe that, although another Abrahamic faith (Islam) consider Jesus to have been a prophet. You didn't know this?

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -its not about preference of choice. there IS no choice. God makes the standard. To love God is to fear AND obey. Kind of the same way we loved our parents as youngsters when we obeyed them out of fear of the consequences if not, but also because we wish to obey out of love and reverence of their position. Make sense?

[peraspira]

@vpartwork Of course there is a choice. You have expressed the Christian perspective on God. Christians do not have a monopoly on God, contrary to what some of them would like to think. I am happy for you that you believe in a religious liturgy and are holy by it. I, and the majority of the world's population, have different beliefs. Mine includes a love of God. Please respect the boundaries of the different major world faiths.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -You say there is a choice. Does that choice involve which characteristics of God you "choose" to believe in, and which ones you do not?

[peraspira]

@vpartwork Theologically mature people understand that there are many theories about God, Many excellent scholarly works have been written on the subject. In addition to the Christian characteristics of God that you describe, there are also Jewish, Islamic, Hindi, Buddhist, and other versions. In fact, within the same religion, such as Judaism, there have been many descriptions put forth. Christianity does not have a monopoly on God. Keep that in mind.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -So, you say there are theories about God? What then would the Bible be for if not to move us away from theory to understanding of God's nature and character? Let's not be tangental, one question at a time.

[peraspira]

@vpartwork I advised to respect the boundaries of the different religions. You referred only to the "Bible", which I take to mean a Christian version. The version of the Bible that you read is quite different than the Jewish version, and probably somewhat different than other Christian versions. It is also exclusive of additional information added in the Qu'ran by Islam. If it also different than the Vedas of Hinduism, the Zend Avesta of Zoroastrianism, and many other sacred texts.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -The Bible I read is no different than any Bible. Now, you talk about respect. I believe we respect people, but do you think it is necessary to respect one's "beliefs" - especially when those beliefs contradict your own?

[peraspira]

@vpartwork Of course one must respect other religions. I have said that many times. You do that by respecting the boundaries among religions, and being theologically mature enough to know that there are many theologies in this world. Your personal beliefs are to be as respected as anyone elses' personal beliefs, even contradicting beliefs. That is why, for example, the Dali Lama is so widely respected in North America.. .

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -OK, so as a Christian the Bible teaches that anyone who is not saved will perish and spend eternity in Hell. If Islam, Bhuddism, Hinduism etc lead people away from Christ and ultimately send them to Hell, why *should that be respected? Seems you would have to respect Satan for doing his job.

[peraspira]

@vpartwork No, it seems that you need to be theologically mature enough to understand that your religious beliefs are for you and other Christians. And that you should respect the boundaries among the religious, because their religions are as true and beneficial for them as yours is to you. If you have been taught that yours is the only true religion, note that there is a not-so-fine line between religious identity and pride, and the kind of arrogance that leads to pogroms & genocide.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -My understanding is that Jesus is the only way to the Father. Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. There is nothing arrogant about it. We do not need respect any one else's FALSE relgion that only leads them to hell. What we do is respect the PERSON. For example, I don't respect what you believe, because it is clear it is not true, and bc it is not true I know Satan is guiding it. I do respect you

[peraspira]

@vpartwork By definition, believing other religions are "false", is arrogant. If you choose to believe what Jesus said, that is up to you.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -No its not arrogant - its wise. Ask Elijah if he "respected" the prophets of Baal's "religion". Answer this question: should I respect something that is sending people to hell? Yes, or no.

[peraspira]

@vpartwork Not at all. The Christian Bible is for those of the Christian faith. It is a beautiful faith, but it certainly is not the only legitimate faith. Sorry, but you are not theologically mature until you recognize differences in legitimate theologies and cultures and respect them. Many religions do not have the need for a man-god intermediary between the faithful and God. Some, such as Christianity, do. It is a beautiful theology, but one should not be arrogant about it.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -Christianity teaches that ALL other faiths are false, as does Islam. If they are false, they are illegitimate as well. If they are illigitimate and false they are wrong and thus they are evil.

[peraspira]

@vpartwork And the Bible that you read is one of many different versions. There have been translations of translations, rewrites, etc, in some lines. Any version of the Jewish Bible, for example, is very different in many areas than versions of the Christian Bibles. And you speak only of the "Bible" as scripture. Didn't you read my other post? There is a plethora of religious scripture in the world that isn't even any of the various Christian or Jewish "Bibles".

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -The Bible is the most intact book of antiquity. There are more authentic manuscripts of it than any book in the world. Variations of translation due to languages yes, but in terms of interpretation it is the same.

[peraspira]

@vpartwork You are very wrong that the interpretation of "The Bible" is the same. I have told you that the KJV, as an example, is quite different from the Jewish Bible. That is quite easy to check on the internet, if you have a scholarly interest. I hope that you do, because you are terribly mistaken in this.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -Jews use the Torah - the first 5 books of the Tanakh (their Bible). Each book of that Bible is in the Old Testment - there are 39 books. The Christian Bible simply uses them with the NT. We do not adhere to the old laws as put forth through the covenant laws kept strictly by the Jews. The difference is not great my friend.

[peraspira]

@vpartwork You need to educate yourself more. The 5 books of the Tanakh are different in key areas from what you call the Old Testament. Why do you think that there is a "KJV" and other Christian versions as opposed to the Jewish, or Hebrew, Bible? Although very similar in some areas, there are some areas in which the translations are extremely different, the various Christian versions having been translated and rewritten many times from the Hebrew Bible. You should do some research.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -I have done research, there is little to no difference in translations dating back to the original manuscripts of the Bible. Don't play semantics here, the Jewish Bible is no different than the Christian other than the exclusion of the New Testament, period.

[vpartwork]

@peraspira -Name some of the key differences you speak of.

[peraspira]

@vpartwork You seem like you can appreciate a scholarly comparison. There are marked differences between the Hebrew Bible and any of the Christian versions. Key examples include Daniel 9:25-26 and many areas in Isaiah. Make a comparison of any prophet and other areas, as well as the interpretations of meaning, for just the scholarship. What you call the Old Testament is very different from the Hebrew Bible in many places, and I just gave you some samples to wet your appetite.

[1954phyllis]

@peraspira There is only one God and His only bgotten Son is the only way to heaven. Jesus is the only One that has died for the sins of all mankind. He gave His life for the ransom of many.

[peraspira]

@1954phyllis You are describing the beliefs of Christians. Christians do not have a monopoly on God and theological beliefs. Understand that. A theologically mature person recognizes the boundaries among religious beliefs and respects them. Arrogance about one's own belief is not appropriate in a multi-cultural world.

[visionseeker50]

COME GET MY HEAD_ I'LL GO FIRST TO SEE HOW EASY IT IS!!!!!!!!

[bigkevcxza]

"The Father chooses whom he will reveal the Son to and the Son chooses whom he will reveal the Father to"

[pnang231]

this man is REALLY good....i dnt know when Hes comin or where...BUT YOUR WILL BE DONE MY JESUS... I AM READY LORD!!! :)

[lizazoon]

NUTS:

[7olusegun]

Hahaha!! "MEXAMERICANADA"!!

The Roman Catholic Church is the one coordinating all these things together. In 1986 in Assisi Italy, Pope John Paul invited the world religious leaders to pray for peace. There were snake worshipers, fire worshipers, animists, buddhists, hindus, muslims, North American witch doctors, presbytarians, methodists, shintoists etc. The pope said THEY WERE ALL PRAYING TO THE SAME GOD & their collective prayers bringing a new climate for WORLD PEACE. Spiritual fornication?

[lizazoon]

One would almost hope to be living in the last days to finally get rid of all this nonsense about the end of time.

[MuRPHYSPaCe070]

a good preacher...

[thewriterfanlJesus]

Glenn Beck actually doing something for God for once and not just rich and lost people. Scary. I can't do any mandatory chip. Reilgious reasons and I DON'T WANT TO BE CONTROLLED BY ANYONE AGAINST MY WILL.

[MasterPhil175]

What's with this 'JailBreaker903' guy?

[JailBreaker903]

DOGSHIT>billy crone

[klegster]

LOSTSOUL and follower of satan>JailBreaker903

[TommScholz]

Satan>JailBreaker903, HA HA, tee hee,

I haven't had a good laugh in a while, that was a good comeback!!!!

[TommScholz]

3:49, WORMWOOD = The Destroyer is on it's way. NASA has spotted it on telescope. The problem is, they won't tell us how fast it's approaching or when it will be here. Gee I wonder why? (Sarcasm) because people would repent and get saved and also realize the book of Revelations predictions are going to come true.

[CrippleSkater16]

I feel sorry for you..Ephesians 4:18 is you! >:(

[Ade161]

hoarsshit>JailBreaker903

[Ade161]

he is a lost idiot.

[twilightdimension]

pretty powerful video here,

[XiaoFury]

wow...these are both scary and amazing times we are living in.

[artsychic2000]

anyone who has not yet repented of their sin must do so now. Jesus will seal you with the gift of the Holy Spirit and give you power over evil. Jesus is the only way!!!!

Please repent now!

[SLEEPy2k16]

wow you cant even drive away from the future police state, they will shut your car off.

[IAMBELOVEDIAM]

I am all down with ONENESS as long as Jesus Christ is my leader and Savior.

[IAMBELOVEDIAM]

I would rather have my head cut off and spend an eternity in Heaven with Jesus Christ than have some chip put in me and be tracked liked a wild animal who has no freedom to do anything without BIG BROTHER watching my every move. Only a fool who does not know Christ will get this chip.

[pagalinnc]

many will be fooled and led astray! let us pray that that we are not! Keep watch for we know not the hour which our Lord comes!

[7olusegun]

@IAMBELOVEDIAM

Just hope you ain't around when the chip implantation becomes compulsory.

[IAMBELOVEDIAM]

Matthew 19:24 "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

Matthew 16:26, For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Romans 1:16, I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the Salvation of every one who believes, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

[BAKHSING]

You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. John 8:32

[lilcjomine]

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6