"They cling to guns or religion" --Barack Obama, April, 08

[alleygh0st]

no, no ,no it`s so much better to surrender, give up your rights and get converted by the enemy, this is how this great nation came to be, no???NO???

it`s like voting to know which brain hemisphere we'll use this year...

for the sake of humanity, snap out of it already

[sedatedcoho]

Looney Liberals? Liberals aren't progressive enough if you ask me so my guess is you would think of me as a real looney. That ad was embarrassing, so cheesy, made me want to vomit...is it some sort of requirement to believe in the Jesus myth and be obsessed with guns to be considered a "real" American? America was and is NOT a Christian nation and obsessing over firearms is irrational and dangerous. What Obama said is the truth and you can't handle it.

[InfomaniacJack]

Perhaps a two state solution is in order? I think some politicians in texas wants to leave the union, maybe you could go with them. Then you can all keep you're guns and fairy tales and togeater enjoy the violence that follows from this leathal combination.

[InfomaniacJack]

who's the looney?? lol.. fuck religion

[Billyothon]

Very well said !!!

[SecretCreed]

Saint Thomas Aquinas; "Without doubt one is allowed to resist against the unjust aggressor to ones life, ones goods or ones physical integrity; sometimes, even 'til the aggressors death... In fact, this act is aimed at preserving ones life or ones goods and to make the aggressor powerless. Thus, it is a good act, which is the right of the victim."

[SecretCreed]

God surely is NOT glorified by my allowance of violence against me or my family. One surely does NOT sin in protecting him/herself and family.

And should any evildoer think of looking up my home, thinking he will find an unarmed victim, think again for I will be glad to proclaim the gospel to you today...

but if I find you coming through my window tonight, you will be ushered into eternity post-haste.

Some decisions are indeed...FINAL.

[SecretCreed]

Some like to envisage Jesus as some passive hippie, yet according to the BIble he does what when he returns to earth?

Plays the fiddle and dances in the streets?

No, he smites the largest army the earth has ever known.

He was passive only in the fulfillment of what HE had to fulfill, for if he had so commanded a host of angels could not only have saved him but took vengeance upon those seeking him harm, but then he would not be the savior.

Now...all bets are off.

[BrightLight57]

The sword of his mouth...Gods word he owned the truth...

[PropagandaBuster]

Then there is your answer to your earlier question: "Would Christ own a Gun?"

[HippiesAreNazis]

Jesus once said to sell your cloak and buy a sword. So that's a big YES.

[SecretCreed]

Luke 11:21 "When a strong man, FULLY ARMED, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed."

[BrightLight57]

An Christ said...Love thy enemies, if a man wants to steal from you, let him...

Get in the Mind of Christ, Thou shall not kill, it is a command of God...No exceptions

[SecretCreed]

"If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed. If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft" (Exodus 22: 2-3.)

[BrightLight57]

Love thy enemies...does not mean...kill thy enemies...

[BrightLight57]

Luke 9:24 (New King James Version)

24 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.

[PropagandaBuster]

You did not answer the question.

[SecretCreed]

Don't you just love when people try to twist the Bible to mean what THEY want it to mean?

Luke 9:24 doesn't mean he is saying NOT to DEFEND your life.

To understand the passage it cannot be taken out of context with that said immediately prior, Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.

Clearly in verse 24 he is referring to losing the life STYLE one had PRIOR to finding HIM, not your ACTUAL life...geeeze.

[BrightLight57]

Would Christ own a Gun?

[PropagandaBuster]

The answer lies in the answer to this question: Did He own a sword or a spear?

[FollowMyDamnedLaws]

God damn, I love your laugh. And this is a great video!

[HardC0rEcHicK]

Poor guy, i think its tomuch for both his braincells to handle! But Amen to the belief in God! America needs to clean up their act!

[danganbeg]

What an idiot. Are all those backward people real?. No wonder america is in so much trouble

[Dhaune]

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[xd1rtx]

this guys friggin hilarious, hes insane, but hilarious, and obama was right, i see it here in redneckville all the time, if something or someone is new and threatening to us rednecks we tend to cling to our guns and our religion,, i say our because most people would view me as a redneck, i do like my guns but i couldnt give a rats ass about religion, my guns are just incase someone thinks they need to come into my home uninvited,, good luck w the craziness pal

[PropagandaBuster]

Thank you.

[mistersiegel]

It's funny that he calls liberalism a mental disorder. With that in mind, play his crazy guy fake laughs starting at 1:14. This lunatic is so near the edge that the slightest puff of wind will blow him screaming into the abyss! Let's hope this is it.

[dj4infoe]

fuckin moron

[klo00100]

gay

[mawklol]

guess what faggot, shut the fuck up.

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[koftw1]

libralism is truely a mental disorder, i love this guy!!!

[kimberlyology]

At least penn state stood up for themselves:) Thank you for sharing!

[1blockhead1]

Propaganda buster, is there any chance we might see around the rest of your house? How about doing your own version of Cribs?! I want to see whats in your fridge, what colour of toilet seat you have and have a quick look through your video collection.

[Bahdageet]

There are certainly more "loonies" on the far right, my friend. Normally, I'd agree that San Fransisco is a bit nutty... but not when there's cities like Salt Lake City out there. Then you have places like Wasilla where you have religious nuts like Palin... speaking in tongues... laying on of hands... casting out devils... prophesying. These are the people we want to have guns? People with no incentive to not sin on account of their delusional belief in absolution? Yowser!

[basshead6949]

oi dude, the discovery of America was the downfall of society, partial liberalism might just save you if you give it a chance. God doesn't exist, how many times..

[dimentagon]

So you have seen the states and Bulgaria? That explains alot, I hope you checked out Romaina, greece, the Balkins, Macedonia and Greece while you over there, guess not.

[crazycamel345]

well i don't know about that but I sure am smarter than you.

[PropagandaBuster]

craxy: I thought you were smarter than everyone?

[jonesowns80]

shut up you gaybob

[crazycamel345]

obviously retarted, that's what you are

[RubiconJohn]

oh usagymnast, dont expect a serious response from me. I believe you to be an even bigger whacko than our friend buster.

[PropagandaBuster]

We're friends?

[RubiconJohn]

oh come now buster, you know i mean you know harm. i wish you the best and hope that you some day will get help for your mental disorder knows as american conservativism!

[PropagandaBuster]

Thank answered the question. Thanks.

[jonesowns80]

gay

[jonesowns80]

gay friends

[dimentagon]

Oh good one, yes very good. That seems a very lame response, you are becoming extremely droll. I own a company, self employed, what do you do again?, Unlike you I can walk and chew gum at the same time, now if you will excuse me I am off to score orchestral parts so I can make some money, you understand? entrepreneurial capitalist

[dimentagon]

What do you say, you have made no valid point predicated in any semblance of truth or fact, and you just use derogatory terms and vitreous rhetoric from Fox news. I dare you, You wouldnt want come here and say that, second-hand incongruous neo republican propaganda

[PropagandaBuster]

Where is "here?"

[dimentagon]

Sorry I forgot to Exclaim the quotation.

[dimentagon]

Oh brilliant, your use of the vernacular is a true insight to your ignorant intellectual capacity. A big Zero. Those who resort to such vulgarity usually have their cranium planted sternly in their Anus and considering you Name, I would deduce its more of a description than a name. Go on call me a fag again, I know your primal vocabulary cannot articulate beyond guttural childish insults.

[dimentagon]

Well done you have included every Republican paraphrase into one statement. And I particularly love your illiterate deconstruction of populous neo right cliché.

[dimentagon]

Well you just proved a glaringly obvious point to me, The use of the terms Fag Retard you poor ignorant thing, your intellectually disabled, Im sorry I should not engage or taunt with uneducated single digit challenged people like yourself, its wrong. Good on you for trying though.

[dimentagon]

Is that why the Bush republican administration went into Iraq against the wishes of the UN and consensus of the rest of the countries in the world? Hate speech codes? There you go making stuff up again? You poor intellectually challenged ignoramus. You really need to A: go and travel in your own country and not take the Fox version and B: travel overseas and get educated to the ways of the big wide world..

[dimentagon]

Fantastic repartee, youre a genius. Maybe the US Army should have a demolition derby instead in Afghanistan and Iraq.

[dimentagon]

And here we go again, calling me a communist, "you base your ideology on Marxism" Have I said that?, typical, Lying. making stuff up, .remember I am more of a capitalist than your poor ignorant self. Rite to bear arms, well that has served you well hasnt it, what are you going to do shoot me ignoramuses?

[crazycamel345]

lol good one mate

[dimentagon]

Wow what an incredable intelectual responce, You realy got me there genius.

[crazycamel345]

wow, you're totally fucking retarted do you not underdtand english? he just said that republicans' version of free speech is a base on their own warped ideals, not

[booboowambotube]

How come "responsible" people shoot and kill more than 10,000 people every year?

[PropagandaBuster]

How come irresponsible people make up statistics?

[pausethe]

12,352 homicides with guns.

17,002 suicides with guns. --in 2005.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is what you call irresponsible people.

[crazycamel345]

how come you like to suck dick at night?

[jonesowns80]

gay

[Flint133]

It is true that people DO cling to what comforts them when times are tough. Whether it is their religion, family, or even guns. When life is tough I go to my family for strength. People who are religious cling to the idea that their god will see them through the tough times. That is so hard to understand?

[SGTChuck82]

Everyone takes this Obama quote as so negative. All he was trying to say in my opinion is times are tough for people there and all they have left to hold on to was their guns and religion.

[PropagandaBuster]

Flint133: You left out the part that those who cling to their religion and guns are bitter. Here it is again:

"So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Rather difficult to clean up.

[jonesowns80]

gay

[Flint133]

I guess we just read things differently. I read your info on the sidebar and watched the video. Going by what you wrote (and not your paraphrase which was aimed at just promoting your view) all he said was that the government (successive ones both Democrat and Republican) failed them. They are bitter and angry because of that. He didn't say or intimate they are some kind of radical freaks because of it.

[crazycamel345]

stop trying to be a man, all the people here against you want you to either shoot yourself or destroy all computers you have access to because you have a big, uneducated mouth. same with you propoganda buster.

[PropagandaBuster]

Crazycamel345: So you want USAGymnast and me to shut up because all the people are against us? Sorry, we are not motivated by mob rule as you seem to be and seem to participate in.

Unless of course that mob was the Mafia and we all know the Mafia is an FBI myth.

[dimentagon]

Not be motivated by mob rule, but you are both foreign to the concept of Democracy, As soon as anyone mentions democracy you involuntarily spew forth standard mantras from the republican phase book. (socialism, patriotism, terrorist, gun rights, religious right majority, sick liberals). Predictable rhetoric from those about to witness American political history, A Black President. Republicans love free speech as long as its your own diatribe of ignorant, insular, tex centric propaganda.

[dimentagon]

While the FBI was busy chasing the reds under the beds the mafia was running America and a great deal of its politics. You can thank them for instigating the narcotics problem that exists in America. Youre from NYC and you believe the Mafia is a myth? Pleases take a reality check Antonio. If you believe that, You may as well believe Mcain is gonna get elected. Conspiracy theorist as well as propaganda spreader, Where did you read that the The Dallas Morning Daily?

[PropagandaBuster]

Apparently your youth and ignorance of American culture is showing again. The saying, "the Mafia is an FBI myth," was a counter-culture joke of the 1970s in the USA, particularly in New York City.

[crazycamel345]

don't feed me that, you just siad that it was a myth don't change your views just because your losing.

[dimentagon]

My youth, thanks for the compliment I am closer to 50 than 40. That must be a USA, NYC thing. Sorry I have never heard that expression so I did not get. I thought coming from NYC that was a strange thing to say, the nuance of sarcasm is sometimes lost in these threads.

[jonesowns80]

gay

[crazycamel345]

you are a crack-pot, old, cenial man, if the mafia is a myth than why was my grandfather in it? how could the FBI convince so many people to lie? what, were they offering free sex to your 90 year old wife?

[jonesowns80]

gay

[ciaracustard]

I know a lot of gay people and they would be offended by compared to this guy.

[jonesowns80]

word

[crazycamel345]

wow, have you ever heard of the second world war, the Soviet Union controlled the economy, it wasn't free market at all, the facsists controlled only arms manufacturing and raw materials, again do some research before you make comments based on opinion you retard.

[crazycamel345]

did i say anything about being sorry for osama, he's a fucking idiot, he should be shot, why did we ave to go in there and get him in th first place, great britain said bad stuff about the US too but you didn't go and invade them!

[jvforever72]

If Ob gets in , i'm going to become a Black Lesbian , transgendered Jewish Muslim disabled person , i'll have infinite protection under the law . Nobody will be able to touch me . JV

[jvforever72]

I think Ob may have watched the original Dawn of the Dead way too many times . He thinks the " rednecks " in the film that were shooting the undead are representative of the whole state :)

Dude , you should have played the Joker , the laugh is hilarious ;)JV

[MasterSgtSlappy]

I think they should make "Red Dawn of the Dead". Shambling communist zombies in search of brains... it would be a winner in the box office right now, and an excellent social commentary on America's modern Democrat party.

[dimentagon]

Cling to guns and religion, well that defies comment, Bring on the Black president you need it. You cant get anymore whacked out than your propaganda Tony

[dimentagon]

Dont use words that you dont know the meaning of you poor ignorant lying simpleton

[CloeBuckingham]

Free Tibet! Free Uighers! Free East Turkmenistan!

[RubiconJohn]

you whackos are holding humanity back on our evolutionary journey.

[thescreamingid]

trust me, we dont want you to get one either...

[crazycamel345]

me too, he's a real dumb ass :)

[crazycamel345]

wow, i'm not even going to say anything, that is a retarted thing to say, and liberals are not fascists, they're the complete opposite, you would be considered a facsist, liberals would be considered communists.

[thescreamingid]

and not one brown person on the guest list...

its no use, Obama speaks to folks who can understand complex matters and was critcizing those who cannot...

Kill a commie for Christ...

[Squig2510]

I respect those who try to work with the people they oppose rather than just wanting to get rid of them. That's the difference between civilized people and violent barbarians. With those words you've proven to lack tolerance to those who don't think like you.

[NozoJapan]

very interesting. :)

[MadBadVoodo]

Five Stars!!

[Noctroler]

You cannot sue for punitive damages in Canada, and a hate crime charge only applies if the crime is property damage or some act of violence with the motive proven to be some form of discriminatory hatred (racism, political affiliation, etc.).

You can say whatever you want up here, so long as its not a direct threat (which is also a crime in most states).

Please do some research.

[crazycamel345]

the comment under this is not directed at you.

[crazycamel345]

i am not intollerant of anybody, i just have a deep feeling of dislike for conservatives because they base their ideology on religion, this is ther very beginning of the collapse of society, it is the christian right wing who control the government, not you, not the people, it is controlled by the lobbyists!

[crazycamel345]

Wow you really have no idea about canada, it is a free market, democratic, capitolist country, please before you make idiotic statements such as that perhaps you should read, or are you from kentucky?

[crazycamel345]

hmm, did the Iraqi's have freedom of speech when you decided to barge in there, how about the Afghanis? No they didn't in the first place and they don't now, it is your president who decided to kill inncoent civillians and look for "weapons of mass destruction" even though there clearly were none. Freedom of speech is a dream, look at movies, look at TV, it is speech in moderation, and nobody can say that everyone has free speech.

[CloeBuckingham]

In the USA handguns are legal. More than 10,000 people are murdered by handguns each year. In Japan handguns are illegal. Fewer than 50 people are murdered by handguns each year. Do you think the USA is better because it has legal handguns? I don't.

Religion is a personal choice, and it is not correct to look down on people for belonging to a Christian denomination or belonging any other denomination or religion that has a high standard of morality. Rulers should not despise their people.

[runisunke]

Pennsylvania and Texass are full of Red Necks, Hicks, war mongering retards, and klansmen.

[runisunke]

that was made long long time ago, get over it.

"Bomb, Bomb, IRAN!"

[PropagandaBuster]

I just read your comment about smoking and have to ask: Are you sure you are not me in a parallel universe? I know silly question, because if you were, then how are you crossing the parallel? But that has been my exact sentiment about smoking and smokers and I too have never smoked.

[PropagandaBuster]

Okay, then keep those excellent comments coming.

[PropagandaBuster]

I think you just caused him to run back in his cave.

[crazycamel345]

sort out of like how you made osama run into his cave, but your still trying to find him.

[crazycamel345]

that's really funny old man, he scared me into my cave like you scared osama, too bad you're still looking for him.

[PropagandaBuster]

USAGymnast: Bravo, bravo!!!!! What an excellent return. I sure wish you would post some videos.

[crazycamel345]

Ya apparently by that totally ignorant statement, you know nothing about canada, in canada, we may not like everyone, I'll give you that point, but we are all tolerant, even the gays have the right to marrry and abortion is legal nation wide, which is more than you can say about the US, I take pride that everyone is criticized here but no one is hated, no matter what their political views are.

[PropagandaBuster]

Your views seem to be hateful of the USA, so please do not write, "no one is hated."

Also if you are so tolerant, how come you are not tolerant of the baby's right to life instead of being aborted? Or is that "tolerance" selective?

[crazycamel345]

you see, this is where society and religion clash, it is not like the fetis (and I'm going to call it fetis because it is not yet a baby) knows if it is going to survive, this is the choice of the mother, are you going to say that in cases of rape, the mother would have to keep the baby, if you say yes, that is an obstruction of civil rights, your next line will be "the baby has rights" no, it doesn't when it was conceived without the permission of the birthgiver.

[usamacka]

pregnancy is difficult MAYBE at the most 2 months of the term. What is two months to give to save a life, that a childless couple would cherish?

[crazycamel345]

did you not listen to anything in the last comment,how would the mother and only the mother (obviously the rapist wouldn't stick around)mother cherish baby who in it's bringing caused her potentially devastating emotional and physical harm, I am not so liberal in the fact that i believe mothers should have the choice to abort if the baby was conceived through rape, however i do not believe they should be aborted at the total behest of the mother.

[usamacka]

do you know what the statistics are for women who do abort to have severe mental problems later, or to have a botched up legal abortion to find you cannot carry a child later? Perhaps the thought that this child will bring someone else happiness should be the key to counseling after such an event. Why be negative....be positive.

[crazycamel345]

you see, this is why i dont like conservatives, they're so set in their own ways that they take every bit of critticism as being anti-american, a long time ago critticism was the very basis of political discussion, howevefr people like you wpould seek to destroy the opinion of the other because their beliefs are not the same as yours, this is censorship. You are intollerant and hateful towards anyone other than yourself, it is not your business who people choose to vote for. and watch your mouth

[crazycamel345]

How are the liberals the holywood bigshots? It is the Republicans who are the big shots (i.e Arnold Schwartzeneger) the reppublicans want to give have the rich, stay the rich and the poor, stay the poor. In my opinion, religion should be let go of gradually because the more religion we have, the more fo an excuse we (and perhaps any other group) have to go to war over resources and religion, I feel lucky to live in Canada where everyone is accepted, I worry about those who are different in USA.

[seka1986]

Obama is kowtowing to the neo-liberals and Hollywood elite. He looks down on ordinary Americans and his wife hates America.

[DrBenDoverHere]

Just wait, if Obama gets in he will want to sensor the internet like our Chairman Rudd wants to do. He will want to control what information you can access.

[PropagandaBuster]

I have to disagree with you. Liberals do not have antipathy towards those who do not think like they do, they have HATE for them.

[PropagandaBuster]

USAGymnast: not only are liberals suffering from a mental disorder, they are scary to. From what you wrote, this election if Obama wins will be 1933 all over again, but instead of Germany, it is the USA.

[davidnightingale]

Don't worry folks it's all due to global warming, everything is down to global warming. The colder weather is due to global warming! Strange people who think they have rights, must be due to global warming. It is hot down in San Fransisco, so Liberal attitudes must be due to global warming! Those pirates off the coast of Somalia are probably due to global warming. The finacial crisis is due to global warming, thats why there is a melt down in the stock market.

[PropagandaBuster]

And we all know global warming is due to George Bush. Also, when you miss place your car keys, that too is becasue of George Bush.

[automaticAEV]

what kind of drugs do you do man?

[FireNationDeathWish]

well, Boston is arguably more liberal, if not as liberal.

[numba1stunna4269]

I always like to stop by the gun shop on my way home from church on Sunday. ;)

[PropagandaBuster]

What state do you live in where gun shops are open in Sundays?

[numba1stunna4269]

I was joking about going to the gun shop on Sunday, lol. But I am a proud practitioner of our second amendment rights, and I see nothing wrong with believing in God despite all the efforts of the liberal media and Hollywood. I live in Florida, the Gunshine state. ;)

[PropagandaBuster]

Thank you. I apologize for miss-understanding your comment . Florida, the "Gunshine state?" Then can Texas be the "Gun Star state?"

[numba1stunna4269]

Gun Star State? Perfect. Let it be known that from here on out Texas is the Gun Star State!

[Joe402]

2004: The country may take a nosedive (spoilers: it will) BUT I AINT LETTING NO LIBRUL TAKE AWAY MAH GUNS AND RELIGION *votes for Bush based religion and guns, ruins country for the years to come*. Plus you'd have to be dumb to believe that guns and religion are getting banned. I myself am a west coast elitist leftist baby-aborting intellectual (I don't drink lattes) and I'd never ban guns and religion.

I like trolling these videos.

[PropagandaBuster]

Joe402 or troll, which one is it? You being a self-proclaimed liberal, who has no desire to ban guns or religion, is a rare one among your ideological group. Okay you do not want any ban, but does that also go for any restrictions placed on guns and religion?

[meidc]

It's San Freak Sickko