OSHO: The Rule of a Barbarous Society

[IndyCarDriver]

when I read the title I actually thought it was about Osho's opinion on Neoliberal world...Neoliberalism and barbarism to me are great synonyms and If Osho was alive, I'd ask him what's his opinion on the World we see today, fully delivered to an obscure entity called market...the decadent society that will evolve from it, will it either cling on Aristotelian thought, marxist thought or decisively to the eastern transcendentalism? Only Osho could answer us.

[schlumbucket]

Death penalty isn't just revenge, it has a 100% success rate of preventing repeat crimes by the same individuals. This IS a primitive, barbarous society. A pedophile doesn't just rape a little boy once. They do it again & again until you kill them or until you lock them up & throw away the key. Most effective thing to do now is just kill them. The greatest sin against humanity is not the execution of these criminals, but allowing them free to claim further victims.

[sreeshankarlal]

The problem with death penality is it reduces competition. We should not arrest criminals but live with them, this will help us improve our abilities and become stronger and not be a victim of an attack or theft.

[Dalveerpanwar08]

death panalty is realy sick brain thought

[bichode7cabecas]

eye for an eye makes it right

[MrLimbomo]

@bichode7cabecas ... then.. we are a society of blinds...living in deep darkness...

[ThaWinBlog]

It's incredible that people cannot see how idiotic that is, the notion of killing someone simply in the same way the person killed someone. It's strange that we go on to become the murderer. It's bizarre.

[Ajorme]

to kill someone you've completely detached yourself from humanity. it's not an easy thing to do. you've divorced yourself completely from reality. killing in society is a symptom of a serious illness of the collective mind. therefore people should NOT be in jails, rather they should be in a hospital or better yet, in a loving communal environment from the moment of conception. we were not always this way. something traumatic happened to us during our course here and we've never fully recovered.

[ryzardini]

portuguese?

[roobinatorification]

Great advice but peace doesnt solve everything people live to manipulate society therefore compassion cant be used so eagerly

[tedoymisojos]

I wonder what he proposes to do with the murderer/criminal, that may keep on being a burden on everybody, inflicting fear and suffering.

[metaknowledge2010]

@tedoymisojos - the question my friend is what you would do! don't look elsewhere for solutions. what would I do I hear you ask, this needs much thought because man has murdered ever since he opened his eyes!

[Takiado]

@tedoymisojos if one is happy... they cannot have the need to make harm. This is why we must open our own eyes... Look within yourself for the answers.

[xXPinkGoddessXx]

Who's to say that a quick, painless death is worse than living in an isolated rape cage for the rest of one's life? I find the latter much crueller and more unusual.

[LionNativo]

existe una traducción en español?

muy agradecido estaría

namaste

[TheAqui1a]

His phone bill must be fucking massive. "Hello... darling..... I'll be.. home.... ..... soon."

[Consciousish]

@TheAqui1a lol nice

[labanfuri]

My beloved master :-)

[urusol]

subtitle in spanish please !! good luck !!

[nyartmaker]

Jail is not merely to punish, but protect others from being victims again. Anyone has a better solution?

[0Oclockmusic]

@nyartmaker But the laws of a society are meant to represent the values of that society. So if our laws allow us to kill someone, then what kind of people do those values breed? ? ? Perhaps we will stop having murderers if our own laws do not approve of it. It is simple hypocrisy. And it is NOT a practical solution to protect anyone. The death penatly has not stopped murder.

[rahlzel]

I agree with much of what this man says, but this is one subject he and I will never agree on.

He talks about the death penalty as being murder by the society. I agree in part that society shouldn't need to murder a criminal, because we should be civilized instead of barbaric, but in an uncivilized world, evil must be destroyed. If you allow evil to continue, you're just as evil, because you allow a murderer to continue taking life.

[rideforever]

What is civilized !!!!! Being polite when you drop bombs ?

[nijubz]

@rideforever  " we gotta a thousand points of light for the foriegn land - we gotta a kinder gentler machine gun hand" Neil Young

[Gieszkanne]

@rahlzel

I totaly agree with you. I like him a lot but to follow up this logic, jails are also crime so....! Its crime to take away somebodys freedom. Osho is here inconsistent with his regular philosophy that its not the matter what you are doing than rather in what consciousness. If you kill for hate or money its crime. If you kill to protect the society other humans,live! its not.

[MURDOCMULDOON]

@Gieszkanne

In the west , Yoga , zen & these things are looked upon as ilogic and mysterious , its rather the only form of pure logic , commonsense we have on earth.

[phaedruslive]

@MURDOCMULDOON pure logic? and how; pray tell, does one tell the difference between two unquantifiable properties? by perhaps creating and appropriating value based on ones belief not weighing the two based on factuality.

it is the way of all men to assume their path is the correct one.

[jalbroven91]

@phaedruslive So are you saying that the western way is correct? Meditaion does have mental and physical benefits. I believe that has been proven and western thinking is starting to accept some of these ideas. I'm not saying that there is a correct path. But are you saying you disagree with meditation, ect? I'm not trying to argue, I am just curious

[phaedruslive]

@MURDOCMULDOON pure logic? and how; pray tell, does one tell the difference between two unquantifiable properties? by perhaps creating and appropriating value based on ones belief not weighing the two based on factuality.

it is the way of all men to assume their path is the correct one.

[zarchiel11]

@rahlzel Hmmmm evil can never be destroyed by evil, it cannot be destroyed because the act of violence that is requiered to destroy something is in it self evil.

[reggiebae]

This man's mind is outstanding!!!!!

Can you understand him?

Really understand him?

Do you have the big mind to understand what he is trying to tell you?

[8thArmada]

i understand the logic.. but we humans haven't figured out a way to treat the psychologically ill. we should work towards that.. instead of building bigger prisons.. or sending people to damn nursing homes..

[ashthegreat]

Who is "ill"? Just because they're different doesn't mean they're wrong.

It's unlikely for a person to have a great mind power and yet have the full power to restrain it.

It's like putting a plane engine on a car.

[papamojo]

Crime is a mirror of society. Nobody is born as a criminal.

[OneHumanity1]

this man can't be correct in everything. Everyone got full right to live. This equal law is community based rather individual. It is the only ultimate way to put stop for evil action. If not, our nursing homes/prisions are full of false sicks, intentional murderers ultimately false society. No one gets satisfaction by execution but gets lesson for life.

[GG74K]

It's the satisfaction that society get's from execution that really shows the truth about it, for example, a prisoner on death row may be under suicide watch?...why?...the society wants the satisfaction of doing the killing....they won't be denied the pleasure of saying he got his, and we gave it to him...pathetic

[workingthrash]

What Osho doesn't realize is that some people are beyond rehabilitation. In America's prison system rehabilitation has been pretty much phased out. Most criminals come out worse. Even though.... some people are better off dead. Yes killing a killer is an evil but a necessary evil.

[hectorh29]

I met a guy who overseas the prisons in Michigan.He says that the reality is that no one cares to rehabilitate.That prisons are thier to punish and make money. These is 1 of the issues but the issue for me is beyond this it starts with a pollutated society and home atmosphere. The question is why are these environment so bad and why do we not care? In america its all about the money and competition.Its probably cheaper and takes less time and effort to kill someone then to actually help them.

[hectorh29]

Last thing sorry for rambling on. I also think in america that its better to not be introspective and question the system. its better to simply follow the socially constructed world. I mean look at all the people that make Jesus out to seem a capitalist and the churches that during elections say jesus would not for this or that candidate. Its crazy. The man didnt live in the kind of world we do.

[ashthegreat]

Who are you to say it is necessary?

You are closed-minded.

[BurntCatMedia]

That system of thought probably has something to do with the fact that a person who is completely asleep and out of it cannot help anyone to "rehabilitate"

[abhi610]

never thot world v r livin is so stupid nd bonded....

tnx OSHO

[crarzzegek]

with your ethos buddy!!! osho is our gift to the world!! my guru mahatma!!

[adracadabra33]

all religions are different stores selling same thing on the same street which you can also find yourself.

[Dumka400]

its not politicians, because theyre generally well educated. its the people that dont have adequate educations that create most of the problems. the reverse can be that educated people form totally new conflicting views though and then create war, but thats just our world being one crazy place

[4216joe]

youre a fckn idiot

wake up

[psihedelic007]

I attended 3 years ago a great course of human rights and I have noticed that nothing changed because politicians maintain their narrow mentalities!...open mindedness is still faraway,unfortunately!long live Osho!!:D

[Abercr0mbie4life]

politians maintain a path to power at cost of truth, I doubt it has anything to do with being open minded.

[omarafrica]

this video should be seen by all officials of the world, so-calle government, and so-called judges. I dedicate this one to my brothers and sisters the MOVE 9, to brother Mumia Abu Jamal, and to all other prisonners political or non-political!

[Dumka400]

by the state executing someone for crimes rather than life imprisonment, they are saying that a body or organisation has the right to take someones life - which noone in the world has. its all a question of views, but is killing people really an answer to anything? it doesnt provide must justice for the community, the perpetrator and the victim

[ivandaniel08]

They admit that they cannot do anything to reeducate the criminal, that wouldn´t be so bad, the problem is that by executing, you (the governor, or whoever..) are deniyng that somebody else might do it. And that is the problem.

[Retrovertigo26]

Penalties are a deterrent, including the death penalty. If someone commits a crime in America deserving the death penalty, he or she is making a statement that they have no regard for the sanctity of life and never will.

[theboy01]

A deterrent that is not working lol, this makes it kind of contradictary to murder a murderer, becuase you think your killing a man that didnt desrve to live in your eyes, yet he killed for the same purpose... although i do think the west is farr more civilised in this regard then the middle east who still live in the stone age.

[rbaggio9]

Good theory it must be said, but then should saddam, bin laden (if caught) and other hitler types should be sent to nursing home instead of prison. I think we need to be more realistic and practical, just my opinion

[theboy01]

Yes they should be sent to nursing homes, lol, dont you c what this man's trying to say, break the cycle of punishing with the same crime. Political rulers use fear of death as a means of control, people have lost all spirituality.

[theboy01]

OSHO is a wise man, so was Jiddu Krishnamurti. Look at the Sharia law, not only do they kill ppl, they chop their hands and feet off and stone to death. Thats god's law apparently. Any thoughts on that?

[soulvagabond]

Osho, You Are D Man!

[Vierotchka]

So very, very true... thanks.

[falzaabi]

thank you