the poor little cow! i have nothing against veal except what they do to them to get their meat so tender! and yes there is such a thing as "humane" veal...
So we should let the cows grow to... get slaughtered anyways? If anything, killing them when they're young is in some ways more humane. Is veal cruel? Of course, but that's just the way eating meat is. Something must die so that another may eat.
@leifey If you follow rules of nature yeah. Humans are the ones above nature. Look at that cows eyes, i want to cry when i see its pure pain but you will laugh at it.
@agalloch666 Who's laughing? I'm against animal cruelty, but I also understand that these animals were bred to be eaten. Their very existence relies on people raising them for slaughter. What I do laugh at is people that think domestic cows have some kind of rights when we raise them in practically the same fashion as vegetables and grains.
@leifey "Their very existence relies on people raising them for slaughter..."
What a ridiculously ignorant statement. And why don't/shouldn't animals have rights, namely, the right to be protected from the harm and abuse that humans - as agalloch666 claimed to be the "ones above nature" - cause specifically BECAUSE they believe that animals are objects for food and not living creatures?
@isaschloegl Go ahead; ban the consumption of meat and let's see how long the animals last at the species level. Their existence is for human consumption. We've bred them over thousands of years so that they're completely changed from their natural forms; without human caretakers, they'd just end up being killed by nature anyways.
Your nature argument is silly. In nature, animals eat other animals. If humans are part of nature (which we are), we should be able to eat animals.
@leifey I love the typical "animals eat other animals" argument, because it's such a common attempt to justify the exploitation of animals. Animals don't exploit other animals, horde them in factory farms, abuse them and sell them to other animals. They take what they need to survive, and humans don't need meat to survive. And no, their existence is not "for human consumption" - it's an egotistical assumption that we have a natural right to dominate, destroy and exploit life on the planet.
@isaschloegl If other animals had the ability to exploit other animals, they would. Ants already do with aphids, for example. And I highly doubt lions care for the wellbeing of antelope.
As for existing for human consumption, I'm not saying it's something innate in all animals to be eaten. But the animals most people eat (domestic cows, pigs, chickens, etc.) are specifically bred for consumption; if people stop eating meat, these animals would literally go extinct.
@leifey You're right, man has been domesticating cattle since the Neolithic. Massive population growth means that today we are producing millions of cattle under inhumane, intensive conditions specifically for mass consumption. Intensive land use for cattle lead to environmental and world hunger issues - 70% of the world's grain goes to fuel the Meat Machine. Eating meat contributes to so many problems it seems, in my opinion, that there is no ethical justification for it.
@isaschloegl That much we can agree on; the factory farming system and the quantity over quality status quo is something that can and should be improved. A lot of people eat meat for the sake of eating meat. We've bred out the flavor.
And as much as I'd like it if the grain for meat just went to hungry people instead, if we removed the meat industry, grain production would just plummet too from lack of profitable demand. Your gripe here should be with capitalism, not the meat industry.
@leifey The meat industry is tied to and impacts capitalism. Grain production might actually stabilize to relatively normal levels if it wasn't needed to feed billions of cows, pigs, chickens bred for slaughter every year. "Removing" the meat industry would cause many economic problems, but it's creating billions in healthcare (heart disease, food-bourne illness) and environmental costs (disposing of millions of gallons of animal waste). Where is the tradeoff?
@isaschloegl Tradeoff? People like eating meat because it's delicious. I agree that it creates other issues, but people for the most part are alright with it as a cost. Everything we do comes at a cost, and people keep doing them because they're not miffed about paying it.
Your problem is mostly with capitalism. For better or for worse, as long as people are allowed to pay for what they want, people will always eat meat, costs be damned.
@leifey All of those cancer-causing Monsanto bovine growth hormones, antibiotics and preservatives make it more appealing. E-Coli is yummy!
It's not capitalism. People eat meat out of basic human greed, laziness and ignorance. For an alcoholic or smoker, smoking/drinking feels and tastes good, even though it's destroying their health, their lives and the lives of others. People are "allowed" to pay for booze and cigarettes because they "want" these things, too. Does that make it right?
@isaschloegl Capitalism is built on greed. Self-interest is the great motivator that makes the system work. I don't always like it, but I'm not so naive as to think that isn't the reality.
As for drinking/smoking, it's not a black and white issue. Like with most things, you have to do it responsibly. If people want to smoke or drink, I have no problem with it as long as it doesn't hurt others. Black/white solutions do not solve problems that aren't black and white.
@agalloch666 "Humans are the ones above nature." So you don't breath air, you don't drink water, and you don't eat food because you're above nature somehow? It's obvious that humans are completely dependent upon nature for their survival. Yet humans destroy nature, we abuse it - plant and animal - because people like you are uneducated and ignorant about the broader connections we have here. You view nature and animals as objects to be abused and exploited. How sad for you.
@isaschloegl Erm, what i meant is that we can do to nature whatever we want, we can destroy it, change it improve it and so on. Humans can choose whether they eat meat or not. "You view nature and animals as objects to be abused and exploited"? Where exactly did you get that from? I am against abuse of nature and animals. If you want to argue get your facts right. Eating animals is disgusting, unethical and selfish. Narrow minded people eat meat, once you educate yourself, you choose not to.
@agalloch666 There are no "facts" here to argue, because you haven't stated any facts, just statements which are wide open for interpretation. Did you not say this: "Look at that cows eyes, i want to cry when i see its pure pain but you will laugh at it." How should one read that comment? Did you mean to say that people will laugh at you for crying over the suffering of cows, or that one should laugh at the pain and suffering? Accompanied with the "humans are above nature" bit, well...
@isaschloegl Its a fact that i made a statement, its been posted here, So if you want to argue dont bend my statements. Open to interpretation, yes. But you are getting my statements wrong if you think im not against animal abuse. And yes humans are above nature because we can do with it whatever we want. And if you`re argument is mostly based on how I worded my statement, you have no arguments against anti-animal abuse opinion. You`re just beating round the bush.
@agalloch666 I didn't bend your statement, I quoted you directly. They're your words. You cannot claim being against animal cruelty, and then make an ambiguous comment about laughing at animal cruelty in the same sentence. It's called a "glaring contradiction" I think your defense mechanism misfired a wee bit. If you're truly speaking against animal cruelty, my respect. Just be more careful with your wording next time so that misunderstandings don't arise.
@isaschloegl " Look at that cows eyes, i want to cry when i see its pure pain but you will laugh at it." You will laugh at it, not me. Its about the person i was talking to. Its obvious.
haha humans evolved quicker than any other species and now the rest will suffer! you stupid cow ! you should've evolved quicker now you will be chained down and slautered for your delicous tender meat !!!
@llcooljoe123 i hope you die u pussy ass faggot bitch lemme slaughter u and eat u for dinner u nasty rotten fuck boy! I HATE YOU BURN IN HELL FOR THAT COMMENT
People who eat veal and laugh about how fun they think it is to torture a baby animal are disgusting. I wouldn't leave any pets or small children around a person who thinks like that.
why baby animals get killed by other animal all the time whats so bad about it? it does not make us sick poeple and does not mean we would eat a infant. veal is good quality meat and i will eat it and dont give a shit of what you think about it. Go eat some tofu you hippy, your still supporting the meat industry that way.(when the milk is taken from the tofu bean the excess goes to feed pigs before slaughter, more cheap feed means the more pigs a farmer can raise and sell to the slaughter house)
@Paradotical Let me start, its pEOple not poeple, an infant, not a infant.Animals get killed by other animals because they are animals killing to survive.You are killing for your pleasure Eating a corpse for your own egotistical pleasure. However, humans are evolving, from raping pagans,from raping women in Africa and raping babies, to bombing other countries.Its getting better and better. Maybe one day humanity will wake up.Maybe not, jerry springer and paris hilton say, mmm to meat. Thats hot!
do you think this is a joke its not a cafe has to spend 5 to 8 months in a cage were it cant move to be killed so we can have good food people like u make me sick and then to make a joke about it thats not funny at all and i eat meat but veal is horrible idk y any one would want to eat it after this
Compared to how other omnivores or carnivores treat their pray I'd say cows should prefer humans to other animals. And isn't it better to have lived at all? Maybe not in some cases but most meat production is not that bad.
Also consider an old human being being forced to lie in a bed 24/7 and in constant pain. That person could still find life worth living, and we do not accept euthanasia for a reason, so why should this cow still not think life is better than non life?
Yes isn't it better if I stuck a knife down your throat and tortured you as soon as you were a baby? wouldn't that have been better than you not being born?
JUST because of this video i'm going to go out and get some veal parmesean at my local italian place. THANKS VEGANS! You really remind me how much i love eating meat :D
Fuck these nazi ALF assholes. I just ate 1/2 pound of delicious tender veal. Animals don't have rights, they only have recipes. I will shoot an extra deer this year, and feed it to the dog, plus whatever bunnies I see, will all be shot. Just for general purposes.
Silverback gorillas are not "back down the food chain". They are over 6 times stronger than you and I, and they do not eat meat. They are not down the food chain you idiot.
Wow, so many people think they're so cool with their "yum" comments. Losers!! So disgusting what people will do to other living beings for own selfish pleasures.
Alligators are stupid and serve no purpose on the planet. They can eat meat, but I can shoot them any time I want - since I'm higher in the food chain, and I prefer to kill stupid things
Eating free range meat does not does not "help" the animals. They are still cruelly branded with hot iron, have their testicles ripped out without pain removers, and are generally deprived of proper vet care.
The animals aren't living "good" lives and there is no USDA definition of free-range... so technically, if you had twenty cows in your backyard, you could say they were free-range on the packet of meat.
Yes, letting the same animal endure this "torture" for a longer period of time till they reach adulthood is much more humane. This has been a look inside your twisted, illogical psyche :D
What a dumb comment below, i eat free range beef because at least there life is stress free and slaughter is quick. This is cruelty plain and simple, regardless if it is calf or cow....jackass
fuck this shit if you dont whant to eat meat thats your choice but not letting us eat is is bullshit go fuck yourslf eat ur vegies ill stick with meat im sick and tierd of peta fags always showing this bullshit to feel sorry for those animals well gues what its FOOD!
His life short no worries he's gonna make great veal!!!Mmmmmmm!!
jerseymuddin 4 months ago
Love veal, interesting how it's made!
crisiswhitelight 7 months ago
Wow!! I gotta go out and get me some veal tonight. I love the taste of veal and this makes me love it more.
TheBingggg 8 months ago
the poor little cow! i have nothing against veal except what they do to them to get their meat so tender! and yes there is such a thing as "humane" veal...
cupcakelover245 1 year ago
This video sucks ass. Who gives a fuck about stupid animals
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MrAms1988 1 year ago
So we should let the cows grow to... get slaughtered anyways? If anything, killing them when they're young is in some ways more humane. Is veal cruel? Of course, but that's just the way eating meat is. Something must die so that another may eat.
leifey 2 years ago
@leifey If you follow rules of nature yeah. Humans are the ones above nature. Look at that cows eyes, i want to cry when i see its pure pain but you will laugh at it.
agalloch666 1 year ago
@agalloch666 Who's laughing? I'm against animal cruelty, but I also understand that these animals were bred to be eaten. Their very existence relies on people raising them for slaughter. What I do laugh at is people that think domestic cows have some kind of rights when we raise them in practically the same fashion as vegetables and grains.
leifey 1 year ago
@leifey "Their very existence relies on people raising them for slaughter..."
What a ridiculously ignorant statement. And why don't/shouldn't animals have rights, namely, the right to be protected from the harm and abuse that humans - as agalloch666 claimed to be the "ones above nature" - cause specifically BECAUSE they believe that animals are objects for food and not living creatures?
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl Go ahead; ban the consumption of meat and let's see how long the animals last at the species level. Their existence is for human consumption. We've bred them over thousands of years so that they're completely changed from their natural forms; without human caretakers, they'd just end up being killed by nature anyways.
Your nature argument is silly. In nature, animals eat other animals. If humans are part of nature (which we are), we should be able to eat animals.
leifey 1 year ago
@leifey I love the typical "animals eat other animals" argument, because it's such a common attempt to justify the exploitation of animals. Animals don't exploit other animals, horde them in factory farms, abuse them and sell them to other animals. They take what they need to survive, and humans don't need meat to survive. And no, their existence is not "for human consumption" - it's an egotistical assumption that we have a natural right to dominate, destroy and exploit life on the planet.
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl If other animals had the ability to exploit other animals, they would. Ants already do with aphids, for example. And I highly doubt lions care for the wellbeing of antelope.
As for existing for human consumption, I'm not saying it's something innate in all animals to be eaten. But the animals most people eat (domestic cows, pigs, chickens, etc.) are specifically bred for consumption; if people stop eating meat, these animals would literally go extinct.
leifey 1 year ago
@leifey You're right, man has been domesticating cattle since the Neolithic. Massive population growth means that today we are producing millions of cattle under inhumane, intensive conditions specifically for mass consumption. Intensive land use for cattle lead to environmental and world hunger issues - 70% of the world's grain goes to fuel the Meat Machine. Eating meat contributes to so many problems it seems, in my opinion, that there is no ethical justification for it.
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl That much we can agree on; the factory farming system and the quantity over quality status quo is something that can and should be improved. A lot of people eat meat for the sake of eating meat. We've bred out the flavor.
And as much as I'd like it if the grain for meat just went to hungry people instead, if we removed the meat industry, grain production would just plummet too from lack of profitable demand. Your gripe here should be with capitalism, not the meat industry.
leifey 1 year ago
@leifey The meat industry is tied to and impacts capitalism. Grain production might actually stabilize to relatively normal levels if it wasn't needed to feed billions of cows, pigs, chickens bred for slaughter every year. "Removing" the meat industry would cause many economic problems, but it's creating billions in healthcare (heart disease, food-bourne illness) and environmental costs (disposing of millions of gallons of animal waste). Where is the tradeoff?
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl Tradeoff? People like eating meat because it's delicious. I agree that it creates other issues, but people for the most part are alright with it as a cost. Everything we do comes at a cost, and people keep doing them because they're not miffed about paying it.
Your problem is mostly with capitalism. For better or for worse, as long as people are allowed to pay for what they want, people will always eat meat, costs be damned.
leifey 1 year ago
@leifey All of those cancer-causing Monsanto bovine growth hormones, antibiotics and preservatives make it more appealing. E-Coli is yummy!
It's not capitalism. People eat meat out of basic human greed, laziness and ignorance. For an alcoholic or smoker, smoking/drinking feels and tastes good, even though it's destroying their health, their lives and the lives of others. People are "allowed" to pay for booze and cigarettes because they "want" these things, too. Does that make it right?
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl Capitalism is built on greed. Self-interest is the great motivator that makes the system work. I don't always like it, but I'm not so naive as to think that isn't the reality.
As for drinking/smoking, it's not a black and white issue. Like with most things, you have to do it responsibly. If people want to smoke or drink, I have no problem with it as long as it doesn't hurt others. Black/white solutions do not solve problems that aren't black and white.
leifey 1 year ago
@leifey i love u capitalism sucks lets do something about it
ff6605 1 year ago
@agalloch666 "Humans are the ones above nature." So you don't breath air, you don't drink water, and you don't eat food because you're above nature somehow? It's obvious that humans are completely dependent upon nature for their survival. Yet humans destroy nature, we abuse it - plant and animal - because people like you are uneducated and ignorant about the broader connections we have here. You view nature and animals as objects to be abused and exploited. How sad for you.
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl Erm, what i meant is that we can do to nature whatever we want, we can destroy it, change it improve it and so on. Humans can choose whether they eat meat or not. "You view nature and animals as objects to be abused and exploited"? Where exactly did you get that from? I am against abuse of nature and animals. If you want to argue get your facts right. Eating animals is disgusting, unethical and selfish. Narrow minded people eat meat, once you educate yourself, you choose not to.
agalloch666 1 year ago
@agalloch666 There are no "facts" here to argue, because you haven't stated any facts, just statements which are wide open for interpretation. Did you not say this: "Look at that cows eyes, i want to cry when i see its pure pain but you will laugh at it." How should one read that comment? Did you mean to say that people will laugh at you for crying over the suffering of cows, or that one should laugh at the pain and suffering? Accompanied with the "humans are above nature" bit, well...
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl Its a fact that i made a statement, its been posted here, So if you want to argue dont bend my statements. Open to interpretation, yes. But you are getting my statements wrong if you think im not against animal abuse. And yes humans are above nature because we can do with it whatever we want. And if you`re argument is mostly based on how I worded my statement, you have no arguments against anti-animal abuse opinion. You`re just beating round the bush.
agalloch666 1 year ago
@agalloch666 I didn't bend your statement, I quoted you directly. They're your words. You cannot claim being against animal cruelty, and then make an ambiguous comment about laughing at animal cruelty in the same sentence. It's called a "glaring contradiction" I think your defense mechanism misfired a wee bit. If you're truly speaking against animal cruelty, my respect. Just be more careful with your wording next time so that misunderstandings don't arise.
isaschloegl 1 year ago
@isaschloegl " Look at that cows eyes, i want to cry when i see its pure pain but you will laugh at it." You will laugh at it, not me. Its about the person i was talking to. Its obvious.
agalloch666 1 year ago
haha humans evolved quicker than any other species and now the rest will suffer! you stupid cow ! you should've evolved quicker now you will be chained down and slautered for your delicous tender meat !!!
llcooljoe123 2 years ago 2
@llcooljoe123 i hope you die u pussy ass faggot bitch lemme slaughter u and eat u for dinner u nasty rotten fuck boy! I HATE YOU BURN IN HELL FOR THAT COMMENT
MrAms1988 1 year ago
100% ground veal ribeye Steak, The best burgers on the planet. Don't forget the Bison!! Y Que? -TX
Faztlan 2 years ago
only way i have veal is a big slab with a browned crust and pink juicy center.
NO ground veal for me :D
rabbiteh 2 years ago
People who eat veal and laugh about how fun they think it is to torture a baby animal are disgusting. I wouldn't leave any pets or small children around a person who thinks like that.
silvercat34 2 years ago
why baby animals get killed by other animal all the time whats so bad about it? it does not make us sick poeple and does not mean we would eat a infant. veal is good quality meat and i will eat it and dont give a shit of what you think about it. Go eat some tofu you hippy, your still supporting the meat industry that way.(when the milk is taken from the tofu bean the excess goes to feed pigs before slaughter, more cheap feed means the more pigs a farmer can raise and sell to the slaughter house)
Paradotical 2 years ago
@Paradotical Let me start, its pEOple not poeple, an infant, not a infant.Animals get killed by other animals because they are animals killing to survive.You are killing for your pleasure Eating a corpse for your own egotistical pleasure. However, humans are evolving, from raping pagans,from raping women in Africa and raping babies, to bombing other countries.Its getting better and better. Maybe one day humanity will wake up.Maybe not, jerry springer and paris hilton say, mmm to meat. Thats hot!
agalloch666 1 year ago
omfg..... veal is so damn tasty!!!!! im going to have some right now.
day10020 2 years ago
do you think this is a joke its not a cafe has to spend 5 to 8 months in a cage were it cant move to be killed so we can have good food people like u make me sick and then to make a joke about it thats not funny at all and i eat meat but veal is horrible idk y any one would want to eat it after this
3324andrew 2 years ago
lol im eating veal right now
so good
guitarisforever1234 2 years ago
for ever comment on this video im going to kill 10 babies cows.
Sophos999 2 years ago
for every day you live, the world gets worse.
grow up please.
metrostation90 2 years ago
@metrostation90
10 cows =/= living
Sophos999 2 years ago
Compared to how other omnivores or carnivores treat their pray I'd say cows should prefer humans to other animals. And isn't it better to have lived at all? Maybe not in some cases but most meat production is not that bad.
Also consider an old human being being forced to lie in a bed 24/7 and in constant pain. That person could still find life worth living, and we do not accept euthanasia for a reason, so why should this cow still not think life is better than non life?
Hedning1390 2 years ago
"And isn't it better to have lived at all"
Yes isn't it better if I stuck a knife down your throat and tortured you as soon as you were a baby? wouldn't that have been better than you not being born?
tiptiptapable 2 years ago
JUST because of this video i'm going to go out and get some veal parmesean at my local italian place. THANKS VEGANS! You really remind me how much i love eating meat :D
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
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Fuck these nazi ALF assholes. I just ate 1/2 pound of delicious tender veal. Animals don't have rights, they only have recipes. I will shoot an extra deer this year, and feed it to the dog, plus whatever bunnies I see, will all be shot. Just for general purposes.
KarrensMan69 2 years ago
Salmon, tasty
Steak, tasty
Veal, tasty
Foie gras, tasty
2.5-7 million years to become an apex predator. I'm not volunteering to go back down the food chain.
ohmichael203 2 years ago
Silverback gorillas are not "back down the food chain". They are over 6 times stronger than you and I, and they do not eat meat. They are not down the food chain you idiot.
tiptiptapable 2 years ago
Eat veal its so fucking good.
HoribiFuckis 2 years ago
Wow, so many people think they're so cool with their "yum" comments. Losers!! So disgusting what people will do to other living beings for own selfish pleasures.
freshflapjax 2 years ago
Fuck you faggot go suck on some PETA dick.
HoribiFuckis 2 years ago
YEAH!!! How dare naturally a omnivorous species eat meat!!! Brb, imma go feed the zoo's alligators some salad.
hoygans 2 years ago
Alligators are stupid and serve no purpose on the planet. They can eat meat, but I can shoot them any time I want - since I'm higher in the food chain, and I prefer to kill stupid things
tiptiptapable 2 years ago
lololo :D
do they taste liek chicken?
rabbiteh 2 years ago
No they taste like you. You have a lower IQ than myself, and I have the right to kill you
tiptiptapable 2 years ago
yum yum
GreenesThings 2 years ago
I LOVE VEAL....SO GOOD
supercory2 2 years ago
everyone wants to save cute animals.
mwells219 2 years ago
Eating free range meat does not does not "help" the animals. They are still cruelly branded with hot iron, have their testicles ripped out without pain removers, and are generally deprived of proper vet care.
The animals aren't living "good" lives and there is no USDA definition of free-range... so technically, if you had twenty cows in your backyard, you could say they were free-range on the packet of meat.
peepchick101 2 years ago
just had veal... its so good
Salvidrummer 2 years ago
Tastes like innocence!
rugbynimbus 2 years ago
MMMMMmmmmmmmm my mouth started to water at 00:14
MasterofDisaster17 2 years ago
I can just about condone beef consumption, but fuck veal and all those who eat it.
cottonwhiskersuk 2 years ago
Yes, letting the same animal endure this "torture" for a longer period of time till they reach adulthood is much more humane. This has been a look inside your twisted, illogical psyche :D
hoygans 2 years ago
Fool. There are a lot more factors involved than the age at which the animal is brought to slaughter.
cottonwhiskersuk 2 years ago
Like?
hoygans 2 years ago
Never had it before. Does it taste good?
MrRealandreal 2 years ago
I'm usually not a left-winged pussy, but I disagree with slaughter of veal.
I don't care if its an adult, just not a baby.
Mrx111 2 years ago
If this calf was chained by the neck his whole life he wouldnt be pulling at it like someone just put it on for this video.
scubabatdan 2 years ago
What a dumb comment below, i eat free range beef because at least there life is stress free and slaughter is quick. This is cruelty plain and simple, regardless if it is calf or cow....jackass
nixxi1980 2 years ago
fuck this shit if you dont whant to eat meat thats your choice but not letting us eat is is bullshit go fuck yourslf eat ur vegies ill stick with meat im sick and tierd of peta fags always showing this bullshit to feel sorry for those animals well gues what its FOOD!
hardkoregamer999 2 years ago
they should have turned you into veal
hobosown 2 years ago
Veal Marsala. MMMmmmm
cnjauto 2 years ago
yum yum...
metalheadkicks 2 years ago
that is soo sad ...
Gracetdog 2 years ago