Thanks for all of the comments and questions here. Many of your questions about this induction and what principles are important to me - and the pattern interrupt is not that important - can be answered watching the inductions videos at my new channel on YouTube channel /how2hypnotise If you have any questions I can help you with please ask. Anthony
Would closing your eyes as your hand began to be moved (either with the wrong hand or in the wrong way), followed by slamming the person in the face work?
when the voice is overbearing, the signal is not absorbed. be gentle with gentle people, like this one. loud people do not understand gentleness, and that is not good, since peace and love is always gentle. so gentle can one be that they simply fall upon the suggestion of their peace and love. like those who fall to the feet of a great spiritual master. etc.
@TheGreatDissolve Yeah that makes sense. There's a term for that, I forgot. It's basically mimicking the subject (if he's sitting you should sit, if he's standing do the same, etc)
I hate to burst the bubble ... this gentleman is not using a handshake induction ... his voice is in the wrong pitch ... this is pseudo-hypnosis (much the same as the magnetic finger effect)
@videomaster411 I understand pattern interrupt inductions in theory (I have only practiced with a subject a few times... it certainly is a very real hypnotic effect). However, something about this particular video just makes me feel as if his script and voice pattern are just not all geared toward an actual induction but a pseudohypnotic effect (like magicians use regularly who have no training in hypnosis).
Let me give synopsis of what is happening here. When a person puts their hand out for a handshake the recipient of the handshake is expecting a handshake. What the hypnotist did here was basically took advantage of that when the subject was expecting a handshake the brain didn't know what to do and therefore was open to suggestion. Becareful when using this induction. If you dont do it right it could land you getting punched in the face.
yeah... that almost happened to me the first time i tried it lol.... some stranger outside of the public library, it was working then I couldn't keep my patter going, guy took his hand away from his face and was like WTF are doing to me??.. and walked back inside shaking his head
@cha0sman Haha, that's why I rather do it on a subject that's fully aware of what's happening. More chances of him going in if I do suggestibility tests before and less chances of getting punched in the face
correction, it is not possible to move from hypnosis into sleep. They will just emerge when they feel like it, or the lack of communication between the 2 person will make them emerge on their own. The only Know possibility for people not waking up when you tell them to, is when they are in the hypnotic Comma state (not because they can't, but because they DON'T WANT TO), and even though it is not a common state, you should do the "Comma threat" to emerge them, so take a training.
That is not correct BlueLutra, Hypnosleep is not Sleep in hypnosis, it's an ultra depth state of hypnosis (as stated by Dave Elman) that is past the Hypnotic Comma state, which by the way, requires more evidence to prove, and some like Gil Boyne discard that possibility all together as results have not been consistent to prove the claim. Neither I believe it or disbelieve it, but I'm curious about the state. About sleep, once you are in sleep you are not in hypnosis, and vice-versa.
Hello, you took my post wrong, all I did was post the opinion of leading Hypnotist experts/trainers in the world, and I have no status to contradict their opinions, just as much I am in no position to acess your own credentials on the matter or contradict your opinion on my own.
As for my opinion, I am all for researching new ideas and break paradoxes, yet until proven otherwise (and I'm not saying I'm the most informed person), I keep trusting the experts and the existing research facts.
Hello. Deepenerers, as you know (probably better than me), are used to keep ppl under the threshold so they don't emerge on their own, and I have no doubt they can sleep right after coming out of the threshould, yet i stick by the experts opinion (until new facts come along), both states can't coexist, yet both states can alternate, just like 2 ideas can quickly alternate in mind, and that's why most hypnotic tapes don't work since post-hypnotic suggestion for post-emergence is needed.
Note the statement 'go deeply deeply down into that state AGAIN...' so the subject has previously been in trance, perhaps durring the earlier tests. Also being in a practioners office adds to the confusion as one doesn't really know whats going to happen next.
I'm a newby to the world of hypnosis but I understand that this is maybe a 'Pattern Interrupt' and that you have a window of about a second after the interruption to make a suggestion right? But I'm amazed that the guy doesn't pull his hand away after a few seconds - my point being is - why is he not reacting to an unfamiliar situation?
i think that the only reason that he is not pulling away is because he is probably curious about what is happening he does not want to exit the magnificent experience that is ahead
@LeeDH22 lol I know you might already know the answer to this because it's 2 years ago, but you don't have to do it on someone that has no idea he's gonna be hypnotized.
Just talk about hypnosis with someone (pre-talk) and ask him if he wants to be hypnotized. Then you can do a few suggestibility/pre-tests or jump right to the handshake. WIN! The person won't remove his hand because he wants to be hypnotized and experience it!
I don't think so. Feeling fatigued is not necessary as hypnosis has nothing to do with sleep or relaxation. That said if someone is starting to nod off into a trance then you can use that to bump them into hypnosis, although a handshake would not be the best induction. Simple conversational stuff would.
Hypnosis is always easier on a person that's had a busy day (call it tired) because he can more easily focus on relaxing.
I have to agree wit AntonMes that hypnosis/trance has little todo with sleep; It's just occupying your brain very concentrated on one specific thing (relaxing or working out confusing stuff or just your daily job).
In terms of prep I tend to do what I call 'the set piece' first. This is a combination of waking hypnosis tests. Immediately after that I say 'thanks' and go to shake their hand. This is the point where the video above starts. You have to pace what is happening, perhaps you hesitated after saying about the lines. You have to keep it rolling. Much more detailed advice in my book out soon. Keep practicing.
So I tried this on a friend. I feel I executed physical part fairly well. I got his hand up to his face, and as I did that I told him to look at his hand, then look at the lines in his hand. Just as you did, He looked at his hand, but then said "what about it?"
At this point I stopped. Is there any prep or covert hypnosis I should of done before hand?
I want thank you again for answering my questions.
What I personally do is initially confuse the with something. Like saying stuff like: have you been hypnotized before... I love that line. A person will go "inside" and think when was it or what does he mean before I am not.... and then throw in the the handshake induction and say to look at his hand, close your eyes your hand will move to your face when it "eventually" will touch your face you relax ten times as much as you are.
I would say the timing in the video is fine. Sometimes I do it a little quicker than this. On a recent training course my father (also a hypnotist) did a handshake in super slo-mo on someone - it still worked. Whatever pace you do it ensure that your pacing things they can verify as true before you lead them into 'sleep'. Questions are welcome.
When performing this one someone who has never been hypnotized, would it be better the do it as quickly as you did? Or take them down a little slower and explain everything to them, for example, with the staircase countdown method?
It will work as any other. You can hypnotise friends although sometimes it is tougher for them to enter into this with even a smidgen of belief that you can hypnotise them. Of course when experienced with the handshake induction you do not need to get permission or tell them what you are going to do. Good Luck.
I suggest you start with what I call 'the set piece' commonly known as waking hypnosis tests like magnetic fingers and magnetic hands and stiff arm and eye lock. This gets people used to following your directions. If you want to go straight into handshake ensure that you follow the surprise of lifting their hand up with a 'command' look at your hand. Don't pause just keep pacing what is happening. If they look at you like they are crazy, get over it and try again.
Well training helps. Having the front to convince people what you will say will happen will happen helps. That all takes confidence and that comes from practice and success. But in essence yes, there is no reason why you cannot learn to do this swiftly.
Basically once you have the hand in front of fce and eyes shit you have what is known as 'leverage'. You can then link whatever you direct to happen next to deep sleep. This could be hand going up, down or to face. It doesn;t matter - all work fine.
Hey Ant, sorry about the last comment, mistakenly I put it in this video.
about the handshake, I like to tell the subjects that when their hand will touch in their face, they will be in a deep sleep and/or in deep trance... NOW! of course this is not the only thing that I tell them, it depend in the circumstances.
what do you think? is it good? I just like when the subject's hand on the face.
Also I noticed that you mentioned this is a 'warm' subject, that he has just recently come out of trance. Do you use the same induction for people you have just met? Ones that you have not brought into trance before? Or do you alter it slightly?
Yeah I know, but maybe it's slightly confusing to my flawed English =P. Basically, I know you move your hand down over their eyes, but does your hand actually touch/brush down their face? Or do you move your hand down over their eyes in the air just in front of their face without actually touching their face? It may seem trivial but I'm interested in what you do there, because I believe the feeling of touch really creates focus =)
Thanks for the info =). Also, I've been thinking while observing several rapid induction videos on youtube. Some of them, not yours, let the subject actually touch their face before they close their eyes. I think that the inclusion of the feeling of touch on their face would make the induction more effective, though I'm not entirely sure. What do you think?
I prefer to let it get close to the face but to leave enough room that I can still do the hand sweep as I say sleep. Then my first real test of the state is to get that floating hand somewhere else, so normaly to their face or up in the air. Link that to deepening.
You should be able to see in this and other handshake videos of mine that my hand sweeps down in front of the face or sometimes a click of the fingers. Either way it encourages the eyes to shut.
Actually I noticed that you say close your eyes and then sleep. I think I can use this when I start actually attempting to do this stuff. While doing the induction, one would need to say "close your eyes" and if they close their eyes then it means they are relatively suggestible! If you can detect this fast enough you can then say sleep. If not then... well... abort mission I guess. That's my plan anyway. =)
Fair comments nii87. However you should also consider that by the time I give the command close your eyes, I have also given a bunch of other commands - the first being 'look at your hand'. From that point on you just pace what is happening before the command to close eyes and the command to sleep. Practice and see.
Yeah that's true. But the main thing I'm worried about is that they are only doing what you tell them to do because they are in a very very light trance. I feel that if they were told to sleep they'd realise what was going on and come out of trance!
Thee really is nothing to worry about. Just be flexible. Just understand that the vast majority of the time if you have done your job right and even if you have done it wrong with confidence it will go right. Sleep is a command not an option.
HI Lusimania - your comment about when to say sleep seemed to dissapear as I went to reply to it. In this induction I say that the moment after I ask them to close their eyes.
Thanks for all of the comments and questions here. Many of your questions about this induction and what principles are important to me - and the pattern interrupt is not that important - can be answered watching the inductions videos at my new channel on YouTube channel /how2hypnotise If you have any questions I can help you with please ask. Anthony
antonmes 3 days ago
How do you shield yourself from this?
KJLesnick 3 days ago
@KJLesnick With great difficulty.
antonmes 3 days ago
@antonmes
Would closing your eyes as your hand began to be moved (either with the wrong hand or in the wrong way), followed by slamming the person in the face work?
KJLesnick 2 days ago
when the voice is overbearing, the signal is not absorbed. be gentle with gentle people, like this one. loud people do not understand gentleness, and that is not good, since peace and love is always gentle. so gentle can one be that they simply fall upon the suggestion of their peace and love. like those who fall to the feet of a great spiritual master. etc.
TheGreatDissolve 2 years ago
@TheGreatDissolve Yeah that makes sense. There's a term for that, I forgot. It's basically mimicking the subject (if he's sitting you should sit, if he's standing do the same, etc)
videomaster411 1 year ago
I hate to burst the bubble ... this gentleman is not using a handshake induction ... his voice is in the wrong pitch ... this is pseudo-hypnosis (much the same as the magnetic finger effect)
ColonelCrockett 2 years ago
@ColonelCrockett He's using the pattern interrupt handshake induction. It's real
videomaster411 1 year ago
@videomaster411 I understand pattern interrupt inductions in theory (I have only practiced with a subject a few times... it certainly is a very real hypnotic effect). However, something about this particular video just makes me feel as if his script and voice pattern are just not all geared toward an actual induction but a pseudohypnotic effect (like magicians use regularly who have no training in hypnosis).
ColonelCrockett 1 year ago
@ColonelCrockett We're talking about Anthony Jacquin here.
lol
Besides, this was a re-induction I beleive. Not that it matters.
videomaster411 1 year ago
@videomaster411 hehe, hadn't heard of him until you mentioned the name. thx!
I'm guessing that's what I'm seeing is a re-induction ... The subject just looked too relaxed for a normal day. ;)
Don't get me wrong though by using the term pseudo-hypnosis ... I think the term has been given bad connotation erroneously.
Nice to meet you, VM411.
ColonelCrockett 1 year ago
Let me give synopsis of what is happening here. When a person puts their hand out for a handshake the recipient of the handshake is expecting a handshake. What the hypnotist did here was basically took advantage of that when the subject was expecting a handshake the brain didn't know what to do and therefore was open to suggestion. Becareful when using this induction. If you dont do it right it could land you getting punched in the face.
cha0sman 3 years ago 2
yeah... that almost happened to me the first time i tried it lol.... some stranger outside of the public library, it was working then I couldn't keep my patter going, guy took his hand away from his face and was like WTF are doing to me??.. and walked back inside shaking his head
LuSiD99 2 years ago 2
hahahahaha you had me lol'ing in my seat then xD
squizwedge 2 years ago
hahaha nice
akaCharlieG 2 years ago
haha nice work! well done for trying though.
sallyesq 2 years ago
LOL, practice practice practice
holycrapurapimp 2 years ago
@cha0sman Haha, that's why I rather do it on a subject that's fully aware of what's happening. More chances of him going in if I do suggestibility tests before and less chances of getting punched in the face
haha xD
videomaster411 1 year ago
What happens if the person falls asleep and dont wake up when you say "awake"?
AaronBsox 3 years ago
they will either wake up after some time or fall into sleep and wake up later.
periblem 3 years ago
correction, it is not possible to move from hypnosis into sleep. They will just emerge when they feel like it, or the lack of communication between the 2 person will make them emerge on their own. The only Know possibility for people not waking up when you tell them to, is when they are in the hypnotic Comma state (not because they can't, but because they DON'T WANT TO), and even though it is not a common state, you should do the "Comma threat" to emerge them, so take a training.
kodiakai 3 years ago 2
Correction, kodiakai, it is possible to go from hypnosis into sleep and to hypnotise someone when thay are asleep, its called hypno sleep.
BLUELUTRA 3 years ago
That is not correct BlueLutra, Hypnosleep is not Sleep in hypnosis, it's an ultra depth state of hypnosis (as stated by Dave Elman) that is past the Hypnotic Comma state, which by the way, requires more evidence to prove, and some like Gil Boyne discard that possibility all together as results have not been consistent to prove the claim. Neither I believe it or disbelieve it, but I'm curious about the state. About sleep, once you are in sleep you are not in hypnosis, and vice-versa.
kodiakai 3 years ago
Correction, you need to be telling this to Gerald Kein, not me.
BLUELUTRA 3 years ago
Hello, you took my post wrong, all I did was post the opinion of leading Hypnotist experts/trainers in the world, and I have no status to contradict their opinions, just as much I am in no position to acess your own credentials on the matter or contradict your opinion on my own.
As for my opinion, I am all for researching new ideas and break paradoxes, yet until proven otherwise (and I'm not saying I'm the most informed person), I keep trusting the experts and the existing research facts.
kodiakai 3 years ago
it is possible to just go straight to sleep if a deepener isn't used after a rapid induction, it happens alot actually.
mystikalninja2 3 years ago
Hello. Deepenerers, as you know (probably better than me), are used to keep ppl under the threshold so they don't emerge on their own, and I have no doubt they can sleep right after coming out of the threshould, yet i stick by the experts opinion (until new facts come along), both states can't coexist, yet both states can alternate, just like 2 ideas can quickly alternate in mind, and that's why most hypnotic tapes don't work since post-hypnotic suggestion for post-emergence is needed.
kodiakai 2 years ago
Note the statement 'go deeply deeply down into that state AGAIN...' so the subject has previously been in trance, perhaps durring the earlier tests. Also being in a practioners office adds to the confusion as one doesn't really know whats going to happen next.
EnigmaNZ1 3 years ago
can you just walk up to somone and do this? or do you have to build rapport? very intrested!
wesdh 3 years ago
i am not convinced one iota im sure there is something more than meets the eye.always been a disbelieving person.
acceitunas 3 years ago
can anyone do that?
underkillerz 3 years ago
Hi Ant,
I'm a newby to the world of hypnosis but I understand that this is maybe a 'Pattern Interrupt' and that you have a window of about a second after the interruption to make a suggestion right? But I'm amazed that the guy doesn't pull his hand away after a few seconds - my point being is - why is he not reacting to an unfamiliar situation?
LeeDH22 4 years ago
i think that the only reason that he is not pulling away is because he is probably curious about what is happening he does not want to exit the magnificent experience that is ahead
okeerf 3 years ago
@okeerf At least someone here is smart.
videomaster411 1 year ago
@LeeDH22 lol I know you might already know the answer to this because it's 2 years ago, but you don't have to do it on someone that has no idea he's gonna be hypnotized.
Just talk about hypnosis with someone (pre-talk) and ask him if he wants to be hypnotized. Then you can do a few suggestibility/pre-tests or jump right to the handshake. WIN! The person won't remove his hand because he wants to be hypnotized and experience it!
videomaster411 1 year ago
I don't think so. Feeling fatigued is not necessary as hypnosis has nothing to do with sleep or relaxation. That said if someone is starting to nod off into a trance then you can use that to bump them into hypnosis, although a handshake would not be the best induction. Simple conversational stuff would.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
Would the rapid induction be more effective on someone that is already tired (from lack of sleep etc)?
nii87 4 years ago
Hypnosis is always easier on a person that's had a busy day (call it tired) because he can more easily focus on relaxing.
I have to agree wit AntonMes that hypnosis/trance has little todo with sleep; It's just occupying your brain very concentrated on one specific thing (relaxing or working out confusing stuff or just your daily job).
rdoetjes 4 years ago
In terms of prep I tend to do what I call 'the set piece' first. This is a combination of waking hypnosis tests. Immediately after that I say 'thanks' and go to shake their hand. This is the point where the video above starts. You have to pace what is happening, perhaps you hesitated after saying about the lines. You have to keep it rolling. Much more detailed advice in my book out soon. Keep practicing.
antonmes 4 years ago
Thanks, again.
So I tried this on a friend. I feel I executed physical part fairly well. I got his hand up to his face, and as I did that I told him to look at his hand, then look at the lines in his hand. Just as you did, He looked at his hand, but then said "what about it?"
At this point I stopped. Is there any prep or covert hypnosis I should of done before hand?
I want thank you again for answering my questions.
manvsbear 4 years ago
What I personally do is initially confuse the with something. Like saying stuff like: have you been hypnotized before... I love that line. A person will go "inside" and think when was it or what does he mean before I am not.... and then throw in the the handshake induction and say to look at his hand, close your eyes your hand will move to your face when it "eventually" will touch your face you relax ten times as much as you are.
rdoetjes 4 years ago
@manvsbear omg lol what happened then?
Did you do it covertly or not? Maybe if you did it with him being aware, he'd shut up lol
idk, what would you do? I'd just talk super fast and wouldn't leave him a chance!
videomaster411 1 year ago
I would say the timing in the video is fine. Sometimes I do it a little quicker than this. On a recent training course my father (also a hypnotist) did a handshake in super slo-mo on someone - it still worked. Whatever pace you do it ensure that your pacing things they can verify as true before you lead them into 'sleep'. Questions are welcome.
antonmes 4 years ago
Thanks for the reply.
One more question...
When performing this one someone who has never been hypnotized, would it be better the do it as quickly as you did? Or take them down a little slower and explain everything to them, for example, with the staircase countdown method?
manvsbear 4 years ago
I am wondering if this works better on people you don't know well. For instance would this technique work on a friend I have known for quite a while?
manvsbear 4 years ago
It will work as any other. You can hypnotise friends although sometimes it is tougher for them to enter into this with even a smidgen of belief that you can hypnotise them. Of course when experienced with the handshake induction you do not need to get permission or tell them what you are going to do. Good Luck.
Anthony
antonmes 4 years ago
yes, i know i may seem really dumb --" but i've only just started, and what if they dont look at their hand and look at you like you're crazy ?
iamcamillus 4 years ago
I suggest you start with what I call 'the set piece' commonly known as waking hypnosis tests like magnetic fingers and magnetic hands and stiff arm and eye lock. This gets people used to following your directions. If you want to go straight into handshake ensure that you follow the surprise of lifting their hand up with a 'command' look at your hand. Don't pause just keep pacing what is happening. If they look at you like they are crazy, get over it and try again.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
can any person do this ?
iamcamillus 4 years ago
Yes. With practice, attitude, intent. I have a book out soon explaining every step.
Anthony
antonmes 4 years ago
so it is actually possible who just became interested in hypnotism to do this straight away ? thats amazing THANKYOU
iamcamillus 4 years ago
Well training helps. Having the front to convince people what you will say will happen will happen helps. That all takes confidence and that comes from practice and success. But in essence yes, there is no reason why you cannot learn to do this swiftly.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
Yes I like it. I do that too.
Basically once you have the hand in front of fce and eyes shit you have what is known as 'leverage'. You can then link whatever you direct to happen next to deep sleep. This could be hand going up, down or to face. It doesn;t matter - all work fine.
Anthony
antonmes 4 years ago
Hey Ant, sorry about the last comment, mistakenly I put it in this video.
about the handshake, I like to tell the subjects that when their hand will touch in their face, they will be in a deep sleep and/or in deep trance... NOW! of course this is not the only thing that I tell them, it depend in the circumstances.
what do you think? is it good? I just like when the subject's hand on the face.
BOSS797 4 years ago
Also I noticed that you mentioned this is a 'warm' subject, that he has just recently come out of trance. Do you use the same induction for people you have just met? Ones that you have not brought into trance before? Or do you alter it slightly?
nii87 4 years ago
No I do not touch their face. My aim is to close eyes the focus required should be in place by that point.
Yes this subject had been hypnotised but this approach is as good as any other even for people who have not been hypnotised before.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
Yeah I know, but maybe it's slightly confusing to my flawed English =P. Basically, I know you move your hand down over their eyes, but does your hand actually touch/brush down their face? Or do you move your hand down over their eyes in the air just in front of their face without actually touching their face? It may seem trivial but I'm interested in what you do there, because I believe the feeling of touch really creates focus =)
nii87 4 years ago
Thanks for the info =). Also, I've been thinking while observing several rapid induction videos on youtube. Some of them, not yours, let the subject actually touch their face before they close their eyes. I think that the inclusion of the feeling of touch on their face would make the induction more effective, though I'm not entirely sure. What do you think?
nii87 4 years ago
I prefer to let it get close to the face but to leave enough room that I can still do the hand sweep as I say sleep. Then my first real test of the state is to get that floating hand somewhere else, so normaly to their face or up in the air. Link that to deepening.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
When you do the hand sweep do you actually physically touch their face or just kinda wave down it in front?
nii87 4 years ago
You should be able to see in this and other handshake videos of mine that my hand sweeps down in front of the face or sometimes a click of the fingers. Either way it encourages the eyes to shut.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
Actually I noticed that you say close your eyes and then sleep. I think I can use this when I start actually attempting to do this stuff. While doing the induction, one would need to say "close your eyes" and if they close their eyes then it means they are relatively suggestible! If you can detect this fast enough you can then say sleep. If not then... well... abort mission I guess. That's my plan anyway. =)
nii87 4 years ago
Fair comments nii87. However you should also consider that by the time I give the command close your eyes, I have also given a bunch of other commands - the first being 'look at your hand'. From that point on you just pace what is happening before the command to close eyes and the command to sleep. Practice and see.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
Yeah that's true. But the main thing I'm worried about is that they are only doing what you tell them to do because they are in a very very light trance. I feel that if they were told to sleep they'd realise what was going on and come out of trance!
nii87 4 years ago
Thee really is nothing to worry about. Just be flexible. Just understand that the vast majority of the time if you have done your job right and even if you have done it wrong with confidence it will go right. Sleep is a command not an option.
antonmes 4 years ago
I noticed that you said "deeply deeply down into that state once again." Did you hypnotize him before?
got0values 4 years ago
Well listened. Yes I was demonstrating a variety on inductions and had just brought him out from another induction featured in the rehearsal video.
antonmes 4 years ago
Yes. You do not have to tell them to sleep.
'go inside', 'relax', 'sinking and drifting' or none of the above will do fine. However sleep works best.
antonmes 4 years ago
Is there a way to do it without telling the subject to sleep?
nii87 4 years ago
HI Lusimania - your comment about when to say sleep seemed to dissapear as I went to reply to it. In this induction I say that the moment after I ask them to close their eyes.
Ant
antonmes 4 years ago
Very nice, Ant!
ButMadNNW 4 years ago
This is just great!
BOSS797 4 years ago