Fedora Site Hacked? Sourceforge Hacked?? Unified Package Installer! KDE 4.6 Released!

[Tatsujin79]

im really excited for appstream

[GenoSkill]

it was Microsoft hackers.

[doorknob60]

You said 2010 again :P

[Capa359]

It's only been 3 days?! I was thinking to myself "Is he on vacation?"

[thisweekinlinux]

@Capa359 nah, not on vacation. just had surgery. If you haven't already, check out the second channel, TWILTalks.

[TeruMikami2345]

Oh noes, oopen source being hacked? Obviously the MAC is next

[thisweekinlinux]

@invnd1987 neither, really. they're both pretty heavy, and I don't have much use for a full office suite. I use Google Docs for most things.

[Metal404Head]

good to see people are getting trolled enough to actually attack.

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[guy666]

2011! :P

[martmelee]

lol, you said 2010 xD

[etnlIcarus]

This has got to be the 20th announcement that vsync is fixed in *nix. I'm getting a little sceptical.

[thisweekinlinux]

@etnlIcarus a few people here in the comments say it fixed the tearing for them. I can't say one way or another, I'm using Nvidia now.

[etnlIcarus]

@thisweekinlinux Yeah but the same people were saying the same thing not long ago, specifically about fglrx. Being a *nix user, I live by the mantra 'results may vary' but I get the distinct impression that the power of suggestion is getting the better of people, especially since tearing is something that comes and goes on a day-by-day basis, depending on timing, load and the video source. Bridgeman says it might be fixed, people watch one video, then stop paying attention and proclaim it fixed.

[Freespire44]

Jordan . Unified Package install sounds like a great Idea. However wasn't this concept already tried by The Now Defunct company Know as Linspire? That used a Method Called Click n Run. Where all some one had to do was look for a program I;E Kino, Python, or any others soft war programs for a verity of Linux distros . Then all the user had to do is locate the Distro on Linspires List then zing That person got a new program loaded onto his computers Hard.

[thisweekinlinux]

@Freespire44 well, this wouldn't be a unified packaging system, just a unified installer (so it looks the same across all distros using it, but uses the existing packaging framework to install).

I've used Linspire (back when it was Lindows). :)

[Gerrrry]

Wow, calling yourself out at the start of the video was great to see. If only others in the media were as diligent about correcting their mistakes. Others, will spend 10 minutes on a false news story bashing somebody but their retraction will be as minimal and invisible as possible. You on the other had put it up front and explained, in detail, what was wrong about the previous story. Well done Jordan. Respect +10 :)

[thisweekinlinux]

@Gerrrry :) I'd rather be honest about it and be a bit embarrassed than to twist words.

[sidhartRON]

Your video looks a bit darker probably the light in the background messed with the light correction of your camera ?

[thisweekinlinux]

@sidhartRON I was trying out a different setting on the camera, 'Cinematic" mode. I turned the exposure up a bit, but perhaps not enough?

[Tarnus88]

I think it' a very good idea to change the naming convention for network-devices, right now it's just a mess. From what I've heard this is mainly intended for sysadmins and servers with multiple networkcards.  lwn.net/Articles/424859/

[zek624]

I think the Unified Application idea is brilliant. Actually I had thought up the same idea for games specifically, but doing it for all programs would be great! Unfortunately, one of Linux's strengths is also one of it's weaknesses: it's freedom has kept a standard from being established for all distros, and so programmers don't want to program for 12 different file types rather than 1 or 2. Hopefully this unified approach will make developing for Linux seem less risky/daunting.

[Justgoodvids]

Who ever hacked sourceforge is going to burn in hell. Thank God they were smart enough to reset our passwords, unlike Gawker...

[H4x0r18]

Wow..can't believe people are attacking these crazy. Well, welcome to my world lol.

[experimental0000]

I see new penguins on the shelf. they look like paintings or drawings.

[fantasmaofdoom]

@experimental0000 His son made it for him...

[experimental0000]

@fantasmaofdoom that's what I was thinking. I never saw it before now but that's really cool :)

[fantasmaofdoom]

@experimental0000 He said it in a video on his TWILTalks channel.

[scottp45]

Nvidia 3D vision is their 3D technology for games.

[yountua]

The antitaring is working perfectly on my machine, finally a little ati support

[poseidon206]

Dig the penguin card in the background :D

[mytube232]

Why are they fixing something that is not broken? New naming is kind of stupid. What would happen if you had PCI music card in slot 1, and Ethernet in slot 2... and you decide to swap them? As far as nVidia drivers are concerned, I tried installing them but they kept crashing my Compiz so am waiting for a bit. :)

[StoneStriker]

Hackers would hack sourceforge to get password lists, email addresses, names, personal information etc. to help them hack other servers. They also could infect binary releases to distribute backdoors to thousands or tens of thousands of computers to allow them to do DDoS attacks, install key loggers to steal more sensitive passwords, or to use the computers for spam email relays. I doubt they care at all about the source code itself which is mostly freely available already.

[sneekylinux]

hey mate,that was one of your most interesting news videos you have done,like it and love it,but as with the rest of us time is the problem,as you would have liked to put more in there i feel,but hey.....nice................pr­oper job........

[thisweekinlinux]

@sneekylinux time is always a battle. :)

[Dennispager]

I think, that they make Linux easier to use is great. Ubuntu made this big jump with the Software-Center, but if the german developers make it better and OPENSOURCE, then there won't be a big gap between the millionaire company and the small but powerful hacker community.

[mpalen19]

I like the "Appstream" idea. Hopefully, it'll make developing apps for Linux more enticing for developers.. :-)

[samrijijkot]

man, attacking sourceforge is just...lame. as hell.

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@thisweekinlinux I'm a bit curious, do you have that TWIL wallpaper all the time or do you change to it just before recording ?

[thisweekinlinux]

@SeltsamerAttraktor I do use it all the time.

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

Mhh... two days ago I updated my Sabayon box, so I'm on "5.5" already. .. I _love_ the rolling release concept.

[scottrosenquist]

At 10:04 you mention they still have the button at the bottom right corner of each window, and have added an area around the whole window to resize. This is incorrect. The area around the window has always been there, and they have added the resize button in the bottom right corner to make it easier to resize windows. Some people (me included) have difficulty grabbing that little area around each window to resize them. Otherwise, great video. :)

[thisweekinlinux]

@scottrosenquist my mistake, thanks for mentioning it! :)

[Cam1223EP]

Just want to say I really like this show. I appriciate someone that has alot of knowladge in the open source / gnu/ linux community compacting and presenting all the work that is done by the community. As far as the one unified repository, I dont think it would be a good idea. It seem like having one point would facilitate attacks and distribution of bad code to masses. On the other hand the bios naming of devices you spoke about sounds like a good side to standardization.

[Tununias]

you said 2010 again. (It must have been your favorite year)

[thisweekinlinux]

@Tununias it was a great year. :)

[Tununias]

How fast is your internet? If I tried to upload a 1080 video, It would take 12+ hours.

[thisweekinlinux]

@Tununias I have 1.5 megabits per second upload speed and 20 megabits per second down, so this video, which was about 950megabytes, took about an hour and a half.

[FrozenPixelStudio]

It would be cool to see something like: "PCI-0 a.k.a. SomeOldName"

[emucosmos]

the idea of only one super-repository for all distros is one of the best ideas that could be done to enhace linux, it would unify all those distros everywhere, if you mix that repository in a rolling release distro you'll be having without doubt the best linux distro, maybe good enough to become the linux representant

[Edvinauskas1]

I have no idea why hackers would attack a opensource project. After all aren't they using open source software.

[tomatobros]

İ am waiting for pardus 2011 review :)

[thisweekinlinux]

@tomatobros same here. :)

[fighterpiolt1992]

hmmm twil site attack and fedora site attack ? A connection maybe?



[thisweekinlinux]

@fighterpiolt1992 probably not. the person who defaced my site was just a script kiddie. the person who attacked Fedora knew enough to change SSH keys and make his way in that way, but didn't know enough to keep it from emailing the profile owner. :P

[aokguy1234]

@thisweekinlinux

I'm dubious on Fedora's claims that no changes were pushed, but we'll see. I'm often critical of Linux, not because I'm a troll, but because I want to to improve and not stagnate like it's been doing. In both the Fedora and Canonical hacks, the sysadmins used weak passwords, which should be a lesson to everyone that even on Linux/Unix, you have to remain vigilant. Unfortunately, some in the community believe in the InherentlySecure™ myth. Remember, security is a verb.

[wujj123456]

Never understand why people want to attack projects that are only there to benefit people. It won't make their life worse off even if they hate FOSS.

[schmidtbag]

the idea of replacing ethX to other things is a good idea to categorize stuff but honestly how many ethernet ports is 1 computer going to have that isn't a server? typically the most you'll ever see on the average computer is 2, and both of them would probably be the same type (whether they're integrated or on pci cards) where categorizing them doesn't do anything.

overall i think the idea isn't worth it, because theres probably a lot of programs out there that only look for "eth"

[SmartestViking]

Hm looks like Ubuntu do make some improvents, the drag area around the windows have always been too small, that is something i like is being fixed. :)

[tad1073]

ethp or ethe would be a better identifier, not only would it label the device but it would also label what type ie pci, embedded etc.

[THEKINGOFEUR0PE]

Fedora should learn their lesson and install IIS7

[ZaydHumsy]

What distro do you run?

[thisweekinlinux]

@ZaydHumsy Arch Linux on my desktop, Fedora on my laptop

[programmersbook]

@Kr3wTime Maybe he knew it already in 2010? ;)

[SevenSevenSevenaka]

appstream? buildservice? brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!! there is nothing wrong with standardizing linux, if anything its long overdue

[woutervddn]

Hmm a unified installer would have key benefits and key downsides..

On the upside it would enable everyone to install like every program out there.. But it how I see it it would make all distros more vulnerable for viruses etc.. or am I missing something here?

[thisweekinlinux]

@woutervddn well, it's not exactly a unified packaging system, it's a unified installer, so everyone would get the same look and feel when installing software, but each distro would use the packaging system they already have. The only difference is that some distros might have more, newer software available from the OpenSUSE build service.

[vlametspek]

u gotz a haircut! :D

[woutervddn]

your site for instance? :p

[thisweekinlinux]

@Eiuvre no prob.

[thisweekinlinux]

@Eiuvre we talked about it in last week's news video. :)

[bartjoboy]

I say YES to unified packages! A big reason why Linux is so hard to learn for newcomers is because it lacks consistency in terms of software installation. You got .deb installers, .rpm installers and so on. And then you also need to select if you are using a 64-bit or 32-bit version.

With this installer you get something more like how Apple handles software installation. One "App store" for all available software. So I am a huge fan of this change!

[justinrixx]

KDE 4.6 is MUCH better :)

[MaghoxFr]

openoffice buuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!

libreoffice yeahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

[ViporVlogs]

it seems this is the year for hacking...everyone is doing it

[ridiculeisback]

KDE 4.6 finally moved away form HAL too, so that actually means any KDE distros will move away from it automatically. Arch moved to upower automatically, and you'll have to set some udev rules to enable hotplugging for external devices.

[Films4You]

More attacks=More popular; well done to Linux 3:43

[Linux4UnMe]

@Kr3wTime

ahahahahahhahahha. You did it again Jordan! LMAO

[analyzingfunny]

Yay!! I see you see you made a video about broadcasting videos to JTV!!!! Thanks... oh wait, Im just dreaming. wake up, dammit..

[GauravCoolG5]

Linux & Open Source sites getting hacked are an indirect indicator that Open Source is becoming popular that some consider it a threat & so try to hack.

[Jumbomasters]

YEEEEEES....finally the ati drivers fixed the tearing!!

[thisweekinlinux]

@Jumbomasters have you tried it out yet? just curious if it's actually doing what phoronix says.

[Jumbomasters]

@thisweekinlinux

yep, i enabled it from the catalyst control center and it works very well

[thisweekinlinux]

@Jumbomasters awesome, congrats!

[bamdadkhan]

slackware uses everything. :) by default, it installs kde, xfce, and even windowmaker. by the way, i don't see why someone would want to attack sourceforge.. what wrong could they have ever done to anyone? :(

[thisweekinlinux]

@bamdadkhan really? I thought it was KDE only for some reason. Good to know!

[TheShowThatSUX]

Regarding the Hack to we know for sure what vulnerability was exploited yet?

As for the rename, odds are will please half, and piss off the other half. Just the nature of the beast.

Installer sounds good but will honestly just depend if it gets traction, as is always the case.

I honestly thing if Lin ver of Steam is not a myth they are waiting on those drivers to be default and out of beta.

[thisweekinlinux]

@TheShowThatSUX I haven't read anything detailing the exploit yet.

The good thing about the installer, is it shouldn't require changing the package management of existing distros, just a change of the graphical installer (I'm sure they'll have a CLI installer too)

[edmmman]

What distro are you using @thisweekinlinux?

[lindsaymobil22]

@edmmman He mentioned it almost 3 times during the video, he is using Arch Linux

[woeskwee]

Nice alliteration. Port naming scheme, thumbs up. That was a long video(not complaining). I say two a week and one Android. Are opensource developers going to be accusing each other of stealing ideas? Sounds funny. Unified package manager? That sounds like a lot of work resolving conflicts.  If Linux gets too popular I'll have to switch to FreeBSD or something.

[gizm0do]

@thisweekinlinux jkeyes0 u got some kind of new lamp or something? the light seems to be kinda green tinted.

[thisweekinlinux]

@gizm0do added a light to the background in the last news video. In this one I was trying out a setting on the camera that makes things "cinematic". not sure if I like it or not.

[axel1973w]

@3:50 Open Source IS getting a bigger Target!! Microslut already is shittin their Pants!!!! But whatever hapends.. whatever services and projects are been attacked.... KEEP ON WORKING HACKERS (Opensource Coders) !!!!! KEEP UP THE EXCELENT WORK AND KEEP UP SHARING YOUR CODE!! THE WORLD IS CHANGING ALREADY THANKS TO OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE!

[bullettotheboard]

openshot should work with the lastest stable version of blender, not the beta.

[joe14jt]

@thisweekinlinux

Hey!

You are making great videos!

I'd like too see one video named "how to: videoediting in linux" - which programs to use, ....

I use ubuntu as my secondary os for quite some years now and i would like to know why you prefer arch over ubuntu? Which are Arch's strong points?

[thisweekinlinux]

@joe14jt There's a whole series on the channel about editing using Kdenlive. It's what I use 100%, and I highly recommend it. Just make sure you've got version 0.7.8. Much more stable than the older versions.

Arch is a very minimal distribution with the goal of keeping things "simple", and providing up-to-date software with a rolling release schedule.

[triplesquarednine]

no changes in 2.6.38 eh??? i thought BKL was supposed to be gone by then (actually, originally it was going to be removed in 2.6.37. but that seems to not have happened, being as i am using 2.6.37 - that i compiled). I would say that if the BKL code is fully gone in 2.6.38. then that is a huge change. particularily, for anyone planning on using RT_PREEMPT, or a low-latency system.

..and lets not forget cgroups/rtcgoups actually being implemented both in kernel & by some distros...

[thisweekinlinux]

@triplesquarednine no changes from RC1 to RC2. We talked about RC1 and all the changes last week, I believe. (possibly 2 weeks ago)

[triplesquarednine]

@thisweekinlinux my bad. I wasn't playing close enough attention to the "rc1 to rc2" bit.

Not that there are usually too many features added during the rc - cycle. Generally speaking, the most significant changes roll with the version. rc's are just ironing out the kinks.

Ps: great show, i plan to catch it from now on.

[thisweekinlinux]

@triplesquarednine :) not a problem. You're absolutely right, there's a feature freeze going on, just wanted to let people know the kernel's inching closer to release. exciting! :)

[alexandr1us]

Good old days, 2010 :D lol

Thanks!

[thisweekinlinux]

@alexandr1us what can I say, 2010 was a good year for me. :)

[plutgamer]

i hate windows.

the only reason that i use it is that the source game engine doen't (yet) work on linux

[archlinuxrussian]

omg, im sorry for double post, but prediction: microsoft will say the "aero snap" is patented or some crap like that :P

[triplesquarednine]

@archlinuxrussian that's no big deal. Apple patented a feature in Compiz, way after it had already been in use.

What worries me, is the attachmate (Microsoft/apple/and a few others) purchasing all of the Novell stuff...

[archlinuxrussian]

for appstream, when i first heard of it i thought it would be a whole new package (like .deb and .rpm such), but now i understand...thanx! anyway, i think it a good idea...make it smooth and streamlined for all distros...just offer choice and customization for those who want it lol...

[slavchevpeter]

Great channel! :)

[thisweekinlinux]

@slavchevpeter thanks a lot!

[LetsPlayAutism]

Best Unintentional Alliteration Ever.

[thisweekinlinux]

@LetsPlayAutism yeah, I had no idea it was happening until after that take was shot. :P

[WarriorIng64]

Interesting to see that Unity in Natty will feature a Compiz plugin for Aero Snap. I say this mostly because its competitor GNOME Shell has already had Aero Snap in it for a while now. I see the two interfaces trading ideas back and forth.

[triplesquarednine]

@WarriorIng64 They aren't "trading" back and fourth. The head developer of gnome recently posted how pissed off he was that Ubuntu stole much of Gnome-shell for Unity - and that this is sort of a parting of ways, now that unity will be the default in Ubuntu. Mark Shuttleworth/Canonical tried to play it down, like it's not the case (only because Unity is heavily dependent on gnome) Basically i think gnome-shell sucks (because of mutter).

and Unity is mostly just a clone with compiz (over mutter)

[WarriorIng64]

@triplesquarednine How are they not trading back and forth? A lot of people noticed a big similarity to Unity when GNOME Shell released its "relayout" branch. And on the contrary, I don't think Mutter sucks. I've been keeping up with the latest builds in git, and while it was sub-par at first, they've made noticeably huge performance improvements in the meantime. It's now faster than Compiz. For somebody who doesn't need a ton of flashy special effects, it's actually quite pleasant to use.

[triplesquarednine]

@WarriorIng64 I know they trading back and fourth, as i said go read the gnome blog - they are pissed off.

also, i have both unity/compiz and gnome-shell/mutter(git).... compiz is WAY FASTER than Mutter, not even close. - there is also way more control, i had to hack at mutter to speed it up (b4 compiling it) compiz i just go into ccsm and i can make it as fast as i want it to be. Mutter also doesn't use hardware acceleration as well as compiz (gaussion blur, etc). Gn-sh is too little to late

[WarriorIng64]

@triplesquarednine GNOME Shell works quickly on my machines, and gives me significantly better battery life on my laptop. Besides, it's the interface itself that counts, not the flashy stuff. I could honestly care less what type of blurring it uses.

I can't find that blog post you keep mentioning. At any rate, I don't think the developers of an open-source project can get too mad if they allow others to produce alternative versions of their code and re-distribute it, and someone actually does.

[triplesquarednine]

@WarriorIng64 You are correct, it is the interface that counts, but my example was geared towards - utilizing my GPU over my CPU for graphics - which clearly mutter doesn't do a good job of (yet?). and not wasting CPU when my GPU will do a better job. it's like not using VDPAU (nvidia) acceleration for video, but instead you waste 30-50% of your CPU to watch HD? (when you could be using only 5%cpu)

i also have a gesture-based desktop (which compiz enhances with functionality)

[kcj1993]

Interesting Ubuntu news. If the stability issues I was having with it are resolved I might have to switch back. I like the new network hardware naming scheme, it sounds like a good idea.

[0frecel0]

I have kind of mixed feelings about Drupal 7. It's a Great CMS but I could't synch it with phpbb3, for drupal 6 there is a mod that is supposed to do that but I couldn't get it to work properly.

What I ended up doing was instaling punbb (very nice and simple forums) and writing the home/news page myself using some code I found in punbb wiki and it was actually easier than trying to get phpbb3 to synchronize properly.

[thisweekinlinux]

@0frecel0 that's the one big issue I've found with Drupal7, the majority of modules are still early in development for it.

[swathepocalypse]

I'm not sure what to think about the proposed naming conventions fedora are looking at.

[thisweekinlinux]

@swathepocalypse I think it might be a bad idea at first, because everyone's used to eth0 and wlan0, but it shouldn't take long to get used to it.

[waspbr]

a unified software center would be awesome. it definitely be a nice answer to the format fragmentation issue that puts off a lot of devs. I would love to see it implemented

[kamari11694]

maybe M$ has realized how much of a competitor Linux is, so they hack the sites

O_O

[ilightbite]

@kamari11694 I wish that was true :( I bet most people only surf at their computers. Why do they pay for windows?....

[kamari11694]

@ilightbite even farther, they complain about lag & viruses, yet linux is proven to be faster & virus-free

[TWILisawesome]

Now I have to install Openshot... -_-

Probably going to keep kdenlive and just mess around with OS

I think bill gates is behind this hacking stuff :P jkjk

[TheSniperofDeath]

@TWILisawesome Openshot is far off from kdenlive... bill gates sort of retired as non-executive Chairman.

[iTechNetwork]

you always say 2010

[TheSushiDude]

You mean cracked not hacked! And it is amazing how many GNU/Linux sites are being attacked; BackTrack, GNU, Fedora, SourceForge... People are just evil.

[ikt123]

@TheSushiDude for someone correcting someone else on hacker terminology I would have thought that you would assume this cracking is for the best, it helps ensure the servers are more secure.

[NapalmWeed]

I always enjoy watching your videos when i am feeling down, they always cheer me right up when I am stressed, keep up the good work, and keep the videos coming.

[thisweekinlinux]

@NapalmWeed really? I'm glad to hear that.

[thisweekinlinux]

@Kr3wTime did I again? argh... i'm going to have to just stop saying the year, man...

[JustAnotherMutant]

thisweekinlinux, you just need to restart your ntp.

[JohnnyVisions]

@Kr3wTime doh, now he's got to remake the video lol x-)

[TheSniperofDeath]

Sourceforge 0.0

[samfoypainter]

Hey, random question, what languages do you code in? Not really sure why I am asking this here or what prompted it.

[thisweekinlinux]

@samfoypainter for my day job I use C# and ASP.NET (though it's mostly html/css stuff with a little C# thrown in). Personally, when I have time, I love to code in Python.

In school I learned quite a few languages, but I haven't had use for most of them.

[TheSniperofDeath]

@thisweekinlinux Unified Package Install.. not bad but we keep forgetting that we have something similar that everything is based on... source code! How do you change HAL to udev?

[thisweekinlinux]

@TheSniperofDeath if it turns out well, the SuSE build service should make all of this unified stuff a lot easier.

As far as changing HAL to udev/upower/devicekit stuff, I don't have a clue, but I see most of the distros are doing it now.

[gaglamesh731]

@thisweekinlinux

If I suck at programming and barely scraped with it through college , any advice on how to improve my coding/algorithm skills ? (not looking forward to be a coder but it's necessary everywhere)

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@gaglamesh731 Yes, you basically need to do 3 things:

1. practice

2. practice

3. practice 

[gaglamesh731]

@SeltsamerAttraktor

Will do.

[pithikoulis]

@thisweekinlinux Isn't it a bit controversial for a linux reporter to use Microsoft proprietary tools? What is your day job btw?