When I close my eyes I see a man wearing a shirt with ripped off sleeves, jeans with grease stains, a half-naked woman tattooed on his arm, and a wind-dancing mullet......
@Owebaby11 where do you see signs of the CDV??? If your talking about the quick high rev before the car starts moving forward, then the "clunk, chuck, chuck, vroooom".....that's not the CDV, it's the bad driver.
P.S. The CDV only effects 2nd and maybe 3rd gear shifting "smoothness"....1st gear mistakes are totally driver related
lol was that a burnout fail at 0:38. I know that burnouts don't prove anything besides showing that your car can lose traction, but for real. He didn't look like he was ready for the car to go.
@superjump01 Umm.... How do you figure? Would you like video of the damn thing smoking like a diesel at a truck pull while just at an idle? The pistol rings were destroyed and then the engine developed valve issues from little more than just daily driving. But what do I care, I don't need to argue with an internet troll.
debadge everything on there. I love the Ls1 engine and I love he e39. If I didnt have an E39 M5 I would probably do the same. Murder it. Flat black and flat black rims. Debadged would be great.
@koudsy Bulletproof motor, huh? Mine AND my buddies both took a shit at under 115k miles and were maintained meticulously. Not really something you hear from those "shitty" pushrod V8's.
I love the swap but agree that the M badge is unnecessary. If it were mine I think I would have an extremely quiet exhaust on it for the sleeper effect even if you loose 10 or so horse power. Throw some electronic cutouts on it and you get the nasty roar when you feel like scaring grandma at the stoplight.
@mrpibb008 "Mine AND my buddies both took a shit at under 115k miles and were maintained meticulously. " Survey says, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLL SHIT!
@BYasrad The 4.4 may be quiet with stock exhaust, but put a little money into possible headers and a full exhaust, and it could be loud as hell if thats what you wanted. If I were to hear this thing coming down the street, a bmw would be the last thing I would expect. The two just don't go together. With other cars you can pull such things like this off, such as a ls1 rx7, 2jz rx7, even a big block crx. But NOT an ls1 bmw. Disgrace
I had to comment on this because it is so stupid. Who the fuck takes a bullet proof quad cam v8 which BMW spend millions perfecting to put in a shitty push rod v8 designed by some red necks in a barn.
hmm lets see.... leather seats, 4dr, all the luxury bull that you would ever need. and a LS1 under the hood? sounds like an awesome grocery getter to me.... if you throw some mufflers on it you could call it a sleeper.
I love BMW's (I own 2) but more importantly I'm a car guy. If I saw this car in person I would give respect where it's due. The fact of the matter is the LSX motors are pretty much bulletproof and the aftermarket support that goes with them is immense. Most LSX series motors gain 50-75HP with a simple cam change. Some have even gained 200HP with a head change. If the owner was going for power then I think he made a good choice on the motor swap. That's just my opinion though.
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STUPID IDEA!!! you have a 540i in the first place....unless your car is TOTAL crap, you keep the BMW engine!!! Anyways, this 540 is automatic, and has no need for an "LS1"....the 4.4L v8 in the original car is better than the LS1 anyways.....
@cap10moman you're on drugs. how many cars do you see swapped with a 4.4L BMW engine (that aren't BMW's) into them compared to the LS1? umm little to none. the LS1 is so bullet-proof, easy to maintain, makes gobs of power so easily stock and even more with simple mods. in NO WAY am i saying BMW doesn't make great engines they totally do, but the pushrod powered small-block chevy V8 always makes sense for an engine swap if it fits, and it usually always does.
@DJM442 I haven't signed on in a few months, but I thought I'd respond to your comment..."how many cars do you see swapped with a 4.4L BMW engine"...none! they cost too much!! lookup the power to weight weight ratio (and not just hp, but torque also!!) And bullet-proof??? look-up BMW engine blow, or ruined, or destroyed, or ANYTHING!!! Barely anything! and the one's that are there take a long-ass time to detonate!!! Then look-up LS1.....how many????
@cap10moman dude i see far more small block Chevy's and Ford's being stuffed into cars they never came stock in than i ever have a 4.4L BMW V8. an LS1 into and FD RX-7 weighs less than the all-iron rotary it replaces and has a better power-to-weight ratio, not to mention torque and no need for turbo. besides, engines of ALL kinds blow up all the time. but a BMW is far more expensive to fix than a LS-series or Cleveland based Ford V8.
reliable my ass, the M62 engine is way more reliable and practically bullet proof compared to a LSI, they probably just thought its a easier way to get more power
M62 is known for many things, low maintenance and high reliability isnt one of them. I have had both, in comparison, the LS1 was in another league for reliabilty, and the M62 was maintained at a higher standard to boot. The M62 IS a better engine when it is running well, in a better car, but an E39 with an LS1 cant be the worse hybrid I can think of put it that way.
oh yeh high maintenance is a must for all bmws, and yeh there are much worse hybrids out there, but it would have been smarter to put another bmw engine, but still, its users choice i guess.
Speculations stated as facts causes too many misconceptions and false info. Im a firm believer in things arent always what they seem and the comparison between the LS1 and M62 can be be just that. There are many variables as to weight such as material used, thickness, build engineering, etc that affect weight. My research has shown the the m62 weighs less BUT its hard to tell wether that is fully dressed or not. The LS1 weighs about 610 lbs fully dress can someone give fact on the m62?
610lbs? I've personally weighed an LS1 with all pumps, intake manifold, and aftermarket flywheel and clutch attached and remember it weighing in around ~480. I can't imagine the S62 weighing much less than that (maybe 30, 40 lbs max). In a 4K lb car, that's not a significant difference. Is it that bad to where you need PERFECT weight distribution in an e39? No. It's not an auto-xer chassis.
@redshft Yes around 480 lbs without the transmission. With the stock clutch & flywheel, fully dressed+ trans, its around 600. All i can gather about the m62 is it weighs around 450 but not sure if that is fully fully dressed as the ls1 was. The 420g trans for the m62 weighs around 110 lbs. Your right, in a e39 the wt isnt a deal but in my case in a e30 race car its is a difference. Im still searching for hard facts on the m62 wt. and it was staying all BMW & gearing that made my final decision
What should a BMW sound like? Have you never heard a 4.4L or 4.8L powered 5 or 6 series? Not much of a difference....just a little more raspier than the LS.
Well it's not my car, just admiring the video. Also, no reason to get an attitude. I was simply asking a question since there isn't a remarkable difference in sound between the motors in question. Yes, there are slight tone and resonance differences, but come on...saying an LS1 sounds like "any old camaro"????? Only the Camaro SS was equipped with the LS1. Sure, the cars may not be that great, but give credit where credit is due, the LS1 is the king of the small blocks.
i am in no way criticizing what they have done to the car, i'm just saying it think that a motor like that does not belong in a luxury sedan, and along with that it the sound that goes along with it, i bet its pretty awesome to own though, prolly turns lots of heads and has people asking themselves what the hell did they do to that thing?!
I can understand where you're coming from, as they saying goes...different strokes for different folks. Personally, I think the LSx motors are great platforms to start with, I do think it's unfortunate that the cars they are manufactured along with are piles of crap though. The sound issue doesn't really bother me, I've heard LS cars sound like complete crap, others sound great. Usually it depends on the header and muffler design.
@SpikeRazzor look, this is my first car (the 540i///m), im almost 17. The whole bullshit about bmw's consting a lot to maintain is because of the stupid dealerships. I,ve read through service history and the dealership charged the previous owner $86 for oilchange. Thats excluding the oil! the parts are easy to find and priced the same as any old other cars. Ebay is the easy way to go. my family pays less $300 less for the insurance that for my moms chrysler pacifica 06' im the main driver ofBMW
its just like putting a turd in the pocket of a mink coat...why would you do that? The M62B44 is one of the tuffest,most reliable,bomb proof V-8's ever made! Why replace it with garbage..Go look up how many other companies borrowed the 540 motor to use in their cars...morgan aero8..land rover range rover..panoz..etc etc... what a shame.
There is a problem it is slow as balls with the M62B44 in there and an LS1 would make it way faster. Let alone, can a M62B44 handle over 1000 hp on stock crankshaft?
@xZZxTakedown Yes it can, M62B44 stock internals handle ca 400 hp and 7000rpm. +100hp can be gained from camshafts alone, because factory camshafts have nearly zero overlap. Note that there were two versions of 4,4 litre M62 engines: >1998 one was with single VANOS and EGR while older one has bigger intake manifold/ TB, no VANOS/EGR, some 230kW.
LS1 and M62B44 are both very good engines. It's a shame that tuning DOCH is so much more expensive and M62B44 has very little aftermarket parts.
Yeah, but I would (well, am going to) do the swap myself b/c I am a technician. So figure junkyard motor + performance parts, cam and whatnot $5000 at the most. +misc. crap, smog stuff, and time investment maybe $1500. $6500 is about the price of a used M5 motor, if you can find one. So...... BTW I would love to throw cams in my 540 but they are not available :(
@wolfmandan72 If your doing it yourself for $5000, thats still to much. I considered the LS1 for my e30 but i went M62 and found some real good deals. An equal flowing exhaust on the m62 as the ls1 gives you the same power stock. But you get more revs, wider power band, and better gearing with the m62+6 speed so it all pans out. After that its all LS1 for power and upgrades. Cams are available for the m62 but there over $2k. Check my vids. Ls1 is a motor you swap if your going to beat the car
LS1 might not be a good choice in an E30, but E39's are already designed for a V8 so how exactly am I going to be "beating it"? I am not expecting the 150,000mi. diff. and suspension to last long with 1-200 more hp, but either way i have to replace them sometime. BTW what kind of exhaust do you have? p.s. I have an automatic :(
I meant beat as in slam the gas pedal and do burn outs every chance you get. Im not saying you cant do the same with any motor but i sure wouldnt put the money into a M62 for that. Im building a turbo system for my car. The m62 and s62 has the shittiest stock exhaust ever but just upgrading the m62 manifolds to the s62 manifolds with cold air intake gives the motor near 40 bhp. Things like engine condition and such applies. Add the m60 intake & get another 10 bhp at higher revs. ~330bhp cheap hp
@DoggysStyle M62B44 and S62B50 share same exhaust manifold with part numbers 11621439928, 11627832292, 11621439929, 11627832972
For what I've heard that 40 horses are released when S62 gets proper manifolds. M62B44 and M60B40 have same intake, never M62TUB44 has ca 8% smaller intake. You are right though, M62/S62 exhaust manifold is not that great.
@E39M62B44 That power for the m5 is with exhaust upgrades.With the M62 its with exhaust and intake upgrades @ about 30 hp. I mistakenly said manifold. The m60 and m62 have different intakes. the same way the m50 has a better flowing intake than the s50. The m62 intake along with its extra .4 displacement & .5 comression gives it a broader power band and more tq but less top end peak power which is the reason the m60 and m62 only have 4 hp difference
@DoggysStyle You are mistaken about M60 and M62 intake manifolds. Early M62's came with M60 manifold (part nr 11611729528 for both), since 1998.08 M62tuB44's came with 8% smaller manifold/TB. Never manifold is part 11611435361. There are quite a lot differences between M62B44 and M62tuB44 (TU like technical update). Latter has for example single VANOS, EGR, different ECU. Actually preVANOS and VANOS engines have some 20kW different power output.
@E39M62B44 Maybe i am mistaking with the early and late m62 manifolds i will research it. You cant always go by part numbers. Reasons being alot of the time a newer part will be listed as an update for the older part and therefor listed under the same part number even tho the original was different. Also alot of the time a part will be listed as a different part because of the model car its on . Im not saying your wrong but i will research it again.
@DoggysStyle Check out BMW parts database bmwfans(dot)info I know this first hand, my friend has made the 11611729528 swap from his smaller 11611435361. Also you can see from bmw540ifun(dot)com 1997...1998 stock models pulling more horses
@E39M62B44 I researched this again and you are correct. The m60 and m62 do share the same manifold. I couldnt find the site i got my original info from but you you are correct
I've had a few bmws, mostly M's, I was stupid and traded my M3 for an M62 740il and the plastic chain guides broke. 24hrs labor = now I drive an isuzu rodeo. Lesson, ALWAYS check/replace your chain tensioner.
LS1=cheap 450+ HP. The M62 (not the M5 version obviously) would take a lot more money to get OVER 400 HP. It would also require forced induction. Cam and LS6 manifold and heads on an LS1 gets you ~500 crank HP.
@fatdudefoshizzle lets see you get 400 dependable horses out of a BMW engine and hammer on it all day. What.....? You say it's not possible? I knew you would agree.
By putting it into a heavier, poorer handling chassis. Totally. Stop believing everything you read on the internet. For cars with a live rear axle f bodies actually handle pretty damn well.
I agree with this. The recirculating ball of the 540i isn't as good as the rack and pinion steering of the 530i. It would make much more sense to throw an LS1 into a 530, plus 530's are cheaper. I'm sure that lightweight Chevy V8 even weighs less than the i6... but definitely weighs less than the 4.4 from BMW.
The 5's do handle better than the F-bodies. There is no question about that. The 50 50 weight distro and awesome dsc program. But F body handling is underrated.
@RhymeFactory Right, -TOO- bad they don't. They use the LS9, had the roots supercharger strapped to the top of it, with drysump oil system. Engine itself probably weights 100lbs more than the LS1, fully dressed. And can still corner well.
HAHA, that's loud; and by the way I know BMWs, I live with BMWs! That is the exact same M62B44 engine it had the first day! That engine is better that the LS stuff (Not as powerful), so why bother?! Just tune it up!
@BeautifulMotorWorks How is it better than an LSx engine? LSx engines have been proven to be one of the friendliest engines for mods and reliability, and you can make A LOT of power with them.
i would like to state for the record that the LS1 is a far, far better motor than the m60-whatever. Cheap, powerful and reliable, and super-simple and easy to maintain.
I like the BMM 4.4 as mucha s the next guy but the LSx series is truly fantastic
Who cares if it's not a BMW motor? The guy obviously had the time and money to do something different and it came out great. LS1's are badass motors and have much more potential than the stock BMW V8. Hell, if I blew my 540's motor and wanted a new one, I could throw a built LS1 in for less... That is IF it were blown though :)
Are you kidding me but why would you put an ///M emblem on the car. You need to have the sport package bumper or the aerodynamic kit to make it look better.
Well i dont like the idea of GENERAL MOTORS USING cheap chinese labor.there a wealthy CHINESE COMPANY GMS HUGE IN CHINA.THEY JUST STEAL USA TAX PAYING DOLLARS.
I love BMWs and wouldn't dream of putting an LS-1 in any but when you can pick up a 540i for around $6k with high miles this is completely understandable...I would drive it...
People always hate on GM about being bankrupt or watever that bullshit is.
But look around. People use LS1's (Yes, the same motor GM made) in almost anything they can put their hands on!
Its a proven motor. And heres a proven fact. Who gives a fuck about how a automaker does businesswise, as long as they actually make good products, i'm fine with them.
Real men don't carry purses... But seriously, the LSx engines are pretty friggin' good engines. 400 HP out of the LS1 is a cinch with just some easy bolt-ons. They're practically bullet-proof, cheap to work on, easy to work on and don't weigh much more than the engine being taken out (usually). Beautiful things happen when American Muscle meets European chassis/suspensions.
Absolutely true. The 540i already came with a brilliantly refined and smooth V8 that is more than capable of playing stop-light-drag-racer. Of course it did have such features as variable valve timing, overhead cams, and a redline somewhere above 3500... all features conspicuously absent on most American engines. Just remember it's not all about horsepower. The M62 is much more refined.
M62 is hard to get a lot of HP out of without speeding big money on it. Put a dinan super charger on it and you might get 450hp. Shoot a e39 m5 has 400hp stock, but put the Dinan S3 on it and you have 600+ hp, but at a $60,000 price tag. That IS sacreligious. The s/m62 motor is a good motor that can rev at high RPMs all day. But, the tranny's arent that good in them, the VANOS blows donkey nuts when they decide to give up the ghost, $2500 apiece for just parts is insane!
Agreed. Let's also not forget the fact that the German engine was well refined and smooth in any type of driving. While no doubt the LS1 is more powerful it 's just plain unnecessary.
This is cool.Why do people think the ls1 is a 'bad' engine?Engines are not bound by pedigree or nationality, so thats a dud arguement.The car companies want them sold in every corner of the world!Let me see, big cubed 'comparatively' low tech, better bang for buck, cheaper maintanence engine, in a 'better' handling euro chassis.Its been done by bigger brained engineers than anyone on this post so it cant be the worse thing one can do to a beemer,
I can't agree with you more. A basic robust engine might not rev as high as an S62 V8 or give as much horsepower but in terms of torque it's going to be the same. And make an incredible noise.
Wouldn't think twice about chucking an LS1 into my M3 if I knew I could cope with the power. But it's still too early.
When I close my eyes I see a man wearing a shirt with ripped off sleeves, jeans with grease stains, a half-naked woman tattooed on his arm, and a wind-dancing mullet......
cap10moman 3 weeks ago
Id hate pulling up next to you. But nice swap. How much modification is needed for motor fitment and trans??
MrJettajunkie 1 month ago
557i
alexcheetah79 2 months ago
awesome sound!
gettorque 3 months ago
what do yu think if i put the LS1 in my 2001 x5? any opinions?
CapoHabiby66 3 months ago
@CapoHabiby66 yeah....it'll never happen....
cap10moman 3 weeks ago
Are those 19" M Pars? They look waaay too big.
Nice E39 though, either way.
goolybooly 5 months ago
love the Car looks great!!! but are those 19inch M-par's? please let me know
GrnGSRJDM 6 months ago
hmm wonder what my 740 would be like with an ls1
Anywereiroam 6 months ago
wow that sounds like shit. Ruined the car.
IPGAuto 6 months ago
@IPGAuto You clearly have never heard an LS1 in real life.
drewglis 2 months ago
The classic clutch delay valve....
Owebaby11 6 months ago
@Owebaby11 where do you see signs of the CDV??? If your talking about the quick high rev before the car starts moving forward, then the "clunk, chuck, chuck, vroooom".....that's not the CDV, it's the bad driver.
P.S. The CDV only effects 2nd and maybe 3rd gear shifting "smoothness"....1st gear mistakes are totally driver related
cap10moman 3 weeks ago
NOW THATS A BIMMER LOL!!
MrMaverickz28 6 months ago
When my E39 540's engine dies, I'm doing an LSX swap. It is just too beautiful to get rid of.
derschwarzenadler 7 months ago
lol was that a burnout fail at 0:38. I know that burnouts don't prove anything besides showing that your car can lose traction, but for real. He didn't look like he was ready for the car to go.
carveriscool 8 months ago
something might but wrong with the original and if it doesn't have that M in front of it than its no better than any other car out there
twist539 8 months ago
Why master the original engine when you can go the hillbilly way?
jogga123 9 months ago
@superjump01 Umm.... How do you figure? Would you like video of the damn thing smoking like a diesel at a truck pull while just at an idle? The pistol rings were destroyed and then the engine developed valve issues from little more than just daily driving. But what do I care, I don't need to argue with an internet troll.
mrpibb008 9 months ago
Thats one way to make a BMW reliable.
Sonof7998 10 months ago
Where can i get those wheels?
roly3031 10 months ago
///M? What a joke.
peterdoubleyouz 10 months ago
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positraccharger 10 months ago
A REAL e39 M5 would tear up that ls1 any day of the week. I dont care what kind of car you stuff it in, it isnt happening.
positraccharger 10 months ago
debadge everything on there. I love the Ls1 engine and I love he e39. If I didnt have an E39 M5 I would probably do the same. Murder it. Flat black and flat black rims. Debadged would be great.
TravisBurrell 11 months ago
How much did this cost you? and what transmission did you go with??
Anywereiroam 11 months ago
@koudsy Bulletproof motor, huh? Mine AND my buddies both took a shit at under 115k miles and were maintained meticulously. Not really something you hear from those "shitty" pushrod V8's.
I love the swap but agree that the M badge is unnecessary. If it were mine I think I would have an extremely quiet exhaust on it for the sleeper effect even if you loose 10 or so horse power. Throw some electronic cutouts on it and you get the nasty roar when you feel like scaring grandma at the stoplight.
mrpibb008 11 months ago
@mrpibb008 "Mine AND my buddies both took a shit at under 115k miles and were maintained meticulously. " Survey says, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLL SHIT!
superjump01 10 months ago
sounds angry (Y)
barbabart 11 months ago
Lose the M badge, poser. Nothing M about an LS1 in a non-M chassis car.
blackXSpr 1 year ago
what year was this bmw 540i built ??
tobbe401 1 year ago
i love the swap, but there should not be an M badge on the back of a 540, regardless of the motor you put in. just my 2 cents.
spamdinosaur 1 year ago
@noddleman1 I think it's much better than the quiet 4.4L it came with and an ls1 makes about 60 more horsepower. sooooo what's the problem?
BYasrad 1 year ago
@BYasrad The 4.4 may be quiet with stock exhaust, but put a little money into possible headers and a full exhaust, and it could be loud as hell if thats what you wanted. If I were to hear this thing coming down the street, a bmw would be the last thing I would expect. The two just don't go together. With other cars you can pull such things like this off, such as a ls1 rx7, 2jz rx7, even a big block crx. But NOT an ls1 bmw. Disgrace
noddleman1 1 year ago
A BMW should not sound like a nasty ass v8. The 4.4s purr and sound very exotic. This is a disgrace to this e39 and bmw all together.
noddleman1 1 year ago
@noddleman1 Yeah i tottaly agree with you...i like the exotic V8 sound of the new M3, its so fascinating...
CroAuslander 1 year ago
It sounds sweeet.
villian714 1 year ago
does sound like a chevy without a bigger exhaust but it didnt pull like an ls1 and if they had really swaped it pop the hood.
master9716 1 year ago
MODS:
- LS1 swap [check!],
- removal of inappropriate "M-badge" [NOTchecked]
... come back to me when youve finished with the build! looks half way there!! otherwise sweet engine!!
MetalicB0x 1 year ago
I had to comment on this because it is so stupid. Who the fuck takes a bullet proof quad cam v8 which BMW spend millions perfecting to put in a shitty push rod v8 designed by some red necks in a barn.
koudsy 1 year ago
@koudsy those "rednecks" have made some of the fastest motors around dipwad
Pkarchpray16 1 year ago
@Pkarchpray16 lol.. bullshit
gickymobile1 1 year ago
hmm lets see.... leather seats, 4dr, all the luxury bull that you would ever need. and a LS1 under the hood? sounds like an awesome grocery getter to me.... if you throw some mufflers on it you could call it a sleeper.
crazyasspotter 1 year ago
Fake..
PS507 1 year ago
one word... FAIL!
MTR427 1 year ago
anybody knows what size are these rims? i'm asking because it looks like 19'' and i think that original bmw rims are 18'' (this model).?
511BK 1 year ago
@511BK Yea they are 19inch m-par replicas. No need to bore out the hub of the wheel when putting on e39. So in this case 19 ich rep is the way to go.
dykyy 1 year ago
sounds like a freaking muscle car...i like it
carcrazy360 1 year ago
maybe his wife has class....and this is his way of going redneck!!
cap10moman 1 year ago
do you know about the motivation for this swap? what compelled the guy to do this?
krisstrigos 1 year ago
This is the fuckin secret to happiness right here. I'm doing it.
TheArfdog 1 year ago
nice car, this is by far my favorite 5 series body style. putting an LS1 is great, i wonder how an LS9 or LS7 would do under the hood?
DJM442 1 year ago
that is mean
joemadoo 1 year ago
That sounds way too good to be an ls1 almost.
koolykool44 1 year ago
I love BMW's (I own 2) but more importantly I'm a car guy. If I saw this car in person I would give respect where it's due. The fact of the matter is the LSX motors are pretty much bulletproof and the aftermarket support that goes with them is immense. Most LSX series motors gain 50-75HP with a simple cam change. Some have even gained 200HP with a head change. If the owner was going for power then I think he made a good choice on the motor swap. That's just my opinion though.
foleygac 1 year ago 31
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STUPID IDEA!!! you have a 540i in the first place....unless your car is TOTAL crap, you keep the BMW engine!!! Anyways, this 540 is automatic, and has no need for an "LS1"....the 4.4L v8 in the original car is better than the LS1 anyways.....
cap10moman 1 year ago
@cap10moman you're on drugs. how many cars do you see swapped with a 4.4L BMW engine (that aren't BMW's) into them compared to the LS1? umm little to none. the LS1 is so bullet-proof, easy to maintain, makes gobs of power so easily stock and even more with simple mods. in NO WAY am i saying BMW doesn't make great engines they totally do, but the pushrod powered small-block chevy V8 always makes sense for an engine swap if it fits, and it usually always does.
DJM442 1 year ago
@DJM442 I haven't signed on in a few months, but I thought I'd respond to your comment..."how many cars do you see swapped with a 4.4L BMW engine"...none! they cost too much!! lookup the power to weight weight ratio (and not just hp, but torque also!!) And bullet-proof??? look-up BMW engine blow, or ruined, or destroyed, or ANYTHING!!! Barely anything! and the one's that are there take a long-ass time to detonate!!! Then look-up LS1.....how many????
cap10moman 1 year ago
@cap10moman dude i see far more small block Chevy's and Ford's being stuffed into cars they never came stock in than i ever have a 4.4L BMW V8. an LS1 into and FD RX-7 weighs less than the all-iron rotary it replaces and has a better power-to-weight ratio, not to mention torque and no need for turbo. besides, engines of ALL kinds blow up all the time. but a BMW is far more expensive to fix than a LS-series or Cleveland based Ford V8.
DJM442 1 year ago
@cap10moman dunno what ur talking about, mines a 6 speed manual o.0
2568316 1 year ago
ew.
unidenprizes 1 year ago
I guess thats one way to make your 540i to be vastly more reliable!
kiwi328i 1 year ago
@kiwi328i
reliable my ass, the M62 engine is way more reliable and practically bullet proof compared to a LSI, they probably just thought its a easier way to get more power
bladedush 1 year ago
@bladedush
M62 is known for many things, low maintenance and high reliability isnt one of them. I have had both, in comparison, the LS1 was in another league for reliabilty, and the M62 was maintained at a higher standard to boot. The M62 IS a better engine when it is running well, in a better car, but an E39 with an LS1 cant be the worse hybrid I can think of put it that way.
kiwi328i 1 year ago
@kiwi328i
oh yeh high maintenance is a must for all bmws, and yeh there are much worse hybrids out there, but it would have been smarter to put another bmw engine, but still, its users choice i guess.
bladedush 1 year ago
Yessss Lord...there is a God...!!!
tredeep 1 year ago
Oh god :O To be honest.. I almost creamed my pants! Need a little wankie!
Zapust 1 year ago
that is so gay. its fine if the car engine was junk. but what a waste of german gold. also why a ls1 why not a ls7 6.2L
bigrockslider 1 year ago
@bigrockslider German Gold??? Lol the 5series engine is not that could only the m5's engine is
testify221 1 year ago
@bigrockslider a used ls1 is real cheap and easy to find. even a new ls1 is like 2-3k i think and ls7 is about 9? not sure exactly
123ct456 1 year ago
pussy automatic...
kingofpita 1 year ago
F____ ya
thenickmoore 1 year ago
Speculations stated as facts causes too many misconceptions and false info. Im a firm believer in things arent always what they seem and the comparison between the LS1 and M62 can be be just that. There are many variables as to weight such as material used, thickness, build engineering, etc that affect weight. My research has shown the the m62 weighs less BUT its hard to tell wether that is fully dressed or not. The LS1 weighs about 610 lbs fully dress can someone give fact on the m62?
DoggysStyle 1 year ago
@DoggysStyle
610lbs? I've personally weighed an LS1 with all pumps, intake manifold, and aftermarket flywheel and clutch attached and remember it weighing in around ~480. I can't imagine the S62 weighing much less than that (maybe 30, 40 lbs max). In a 4K lb car, that's not a significant difference. Is it that bad to where you need PERFECT weight distribution in an e39? No. It's not an auto-xer chassis.
redshft 1 year ago
@redshft Yes around 480 lbs without the transmission. With the stock clutch & flywheel, fully dressed+ trans, its around 600. All i can gather about the m62 is it weighs around 450 but not sure if that is fully fully dressed as the ls1 was. The 420g trans for the m62 weighs around 110 lbs. Your right, in a e39 the wt isnt a deal but in my case in a e30 race car its is a difference. Im still searching for hard facts on the m62 wt. and it was staying all BMW & gearing that made my final decision
DoggysStyle 1 year ago
@DoggysStyle Oh OK, I didn't know you were accounting for the tranny too.
redshft 1 year ago
thats not what a BMW should sound like
SUBARUL0VER 1 year ago 2
@SUBARUL0VER
What should a BMW sound like? Have you never heard a 4.4L or 4.8L powered 5 or 6 series? Not much of a difference....just a little more raspier than the LS.
redshft 1 year ago
@redshft
hmmm lets see i own a 01 540i and that has the 4.4 so yes i have heard one a time or 2. your car, at least on video, sounds like any old camero
SUBARUL0VER 1 year ago
@SUBARUL0VER
Well it's not my car, just admiring the video. Also, no reason to get an attitude. I was simply asking a question since there isn't a remarkable difference in sound between the motors in question. Yes, there are slight tone and resonance differences, but come on...saying an LS1 sounds like "any old camaro"????? Only the Camaro SS was equipped with the LS1. Sure, the cars may not be that great, but give credit where credit is due, the LS1 is the king of the small blocks.
redshft 1 year ago
@redshft
i am in no way criticizing what they have done to the car, i'm just saying it think that a motor like that does not belong in a luxury sedan, and along with that it the sound that goes along with it, i bet its pretty awesome to own though, prolly turns lots of heads and has people asking themselves what the hell did they do to that thing?!
SUBARUL0VER 1 year ago
@SUBARUL0VER
I can understand where you're coming from, as they saying goes...different strokes for different folks. Personally, I think the LSx motors are great platforms to start with, I do think it's unfortunate that the cars they are manufactured along with are piles of crap though. The sound issue doesn't really bother me, I've heard LS cars sound like complete crap, others sound great. Usually it depends on the header and muffler design.
redshft 1 year ago
Was tempted to buy one these, but I knew damn well the insurance would kill me at my age and God knows how much parts for these things cost.
SpikeRazzor 1 year ago
@SpikeRazzor look, this is my first car (the 540i///m), im almost 17. The whole bullshit about bmw's consting a lot to maintain is because of the stupid dealerships. I,ve read through service history and the dealership charged the previous owner $86 for oilchange. Thats excluding the oil! the parts are easy to find and priced the same as any old other cars. Ebay is the easy way to go. my family pays less $300 less for the insurance that for my moms chrysler pacifica 06' im the main driver ofBMW
2568316 1 year ago
@2568316 and thats after th 98 year models i have a 97 and their different
0O0O0O0O0O1000 1 year ago
its just like putting a turd in the pocket of a mink coat...why would you do that? The M62B44 is one of the tuffest,most reliable,bomb proof V-8's ever made! Why replace it with garbage..Go look up how many other companies borrowed the 540 motor to use in their cars...morgan aero8..land rover range rover..panoz..etc etc... what a shame.
whorebot325 1 year ago
@whorebot325
There is a problem it is slow as balls with the M62B44 in there and an LS1 would make it way faster. Let alone, can a M62B44 handle over 1000 hp on stock crankshaft?
xZZxTakedown 1 year ago
@xZZxTakedown Yes it can, M62B44 stock internals handle ca 400 hp and 7000rpm. +100hp can be gained from camshafts alone, because factory camshafts have nearly zero overlap. Note that there were two versions of 4,4 litre M62 engines: >1998 one was with single VANOS and EGR while older one has bigger intake manifold/ TB, no VANOS/EGR, some 230kW.
LS1 and M62B44 are both very good engines. It's a shame that tuning DOCH is so much more expensive and M62B44 has very little aftermarket parts.
E39M62B44 1 year ago
kick ass exahst
naher1 2 years ago
That is the best idea ever. Even better than the Rx-7 with the LS1. I love BMW's and I love muscle cars. BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!
baka86 2 years ago
@baka86 God dude they ruined that RX-7
fatdudefoshizzle 2 years ago
@fatdudefoshizzle what llmfaooo? its a beamer..
x1xplayrx1x 1 year ago
@x1xplayrx1x I know someone said something about an rx-7 with an ls1 so i said they ruined that.
fatdudefoshizzle 1 year ago
Yeah, but I would (well, am going to) do the swap myself b/c I am a technician. So figure junkyard motor + performance parts, cam and whatnot $5000 at the most. +misc. crap, smog stuff, and time investment maybe $1500. $6500 is about the price of a used M5 motor, if you can find one. So...... BTW I would love to throw cams in my 540 but they are not available :(
wolfmandan72 2 years ago
@wolfmandan72 If your doing it yourself for $5000, thats still to much. I considered the LS1 for my e30 but i went M62 and found some real good deals. An equal flowing exhaust on the m62 as the ls1 gives you the same power stock. But you get more revs, wider power band, and better gearing with the m62+6 speed so it all pans out. After that its all LS1 for power and upgrades. Cams are available for the m62 but there over $2k. Check my vids. Ls1 is a motor you swap if your going to beat the car
DoggysStyle 2 years ago
LS1 might not be a good choice in an E30, but E39's are already designed for a V8 so how exactly am I going to be "beating it"? I am not expecting the 150,000mi. diff. and suspension to last long with 1-200 more hp, but either way i have to replace them sometime. BTW what kind of exhaust do you have? p.s. I have an automatic :(
wolfmandan72 2 years ago
I meant beat as in slam the gas pedal and do burn outs every chance you get. Im not saying you cant do the same with any motor but i sure wouldnt put the money into a M62 for that. Im building a turbo system for my car. The m62 and s62 has the shittiest stock exhaust ever but just upgrading the m62 manifolds to the s62 manifolds with cold air intake gives the motor near 40 bhp. Things like engine condition and such applies. Add the m60 intake & get another 10 bhp at higher revs. ~330bhp cheap hp
DoggysStyle 2 years ago
@DoggysStyle M62B44 and S62B50 share same exhaust manifold with part numbers 11621439928, 11627832292, 11621439929, 11627832972
For what I've heard that 40 horses are released when S62 gets proper manifolds. M62B44 and M60B40 have same intake, never M62TUB44 has ca 8% smaller intake. You are right though, M62/S62 exhaust manifold is not that great.
E39M62B44 1 year ago
@E39M62B44 That power for the m5 is with exhaust upgrades.With the M62 its with exhaust and intake upgrades @ about 30 hp. I mistakenly said manifold. The m60 and m62 have different intakes. the same way the m50 has a better flowing intake than the s50. The m62 intake along with its extra .4 displacement & .5 comression gives it a broader power band and more tq but less top end peak power which is the reason the m60 and m62 only have 4 hp difference
DoggysStyle 1 year ago
@DoggysStyle You are mistaken about M60 and M62 intake manifolds. Early M62's came with M60 manifold (part nr 11611729528 for both), since 1998.08 M62tuB44's came with 8% smaller manifold/TB. Never manifold is part 11611435361. There are quite a lot differences between M62B44 and M62tuB44 (TU like technical update). Latter has for example single VANOS, EGR, different ECU. Actually preVANOS and VANOS engines have some 20kW different power output.
E39M62B44 1 year ago
@E39M62B44 Maybe i am mistaking with the early and late m62 manifolds i will research it. You cant always go by part numbers. Reasons being alot of the time a newer part will be listed as an update for the older part and therefor listed under the same part number even tho the original was different. Also alot of the time a part will be listed as a different part because of the model car its on . Im not saying your wrong but i will research it again.
DoggysStyle 1 year ago
@DoggysStyle Check out BMW parts database bmwfans(dot)info I know this first hand, my friend has made the 11611729528 swap from his smaller 11611435361. Also you can see from bmw540ifun(dot)com 1997...1998 stock models pulling more horses
E39M62B44 1 year ago
@E39M62B44 I researched this again and you are correct. The m60 and m62 do share the same manifold. I couldnt find the site i got my original info from but you you are correct
DoggysStyle 1 year ago
I've had a few bmws, mostly M's, I was stupid and traded my M3 for an M62 740il and the plastic chain guides broke. 24hrs labor = now I drive an isuzu rodeo. Lesson, ALWAYS check/replace your chain tensioner.
2ndAmend 2 years ago
maybe the origanal motor blew and this was the cheaper,easier way to go.
BLACKLACDTS 2 years ago 18
@BLACKLACDTS You're dumb.
swagger93 1 year ago
@swagger93 and your ugly whats your point?
BLACKLACDTS 1 year ago
@BLACKLACDTS That you're dumb. Derrrrrr
swagger93 1 year ago
@swagger93 i dont get it! whats your point?
BLACKLACDTS 1 year ago
@BLACKLACDTS How can you be so dumb?
swagger93 1 year ago
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BLACKLACDTS 1 year ago
LS1=cheap 450+ HP. The M62 (not the M5 version obviously) would take a lot more money to get OVER 400 HP. It would also require forced induction. Cam and LS6 manifold and heads on an LS1 gets you ~500 crank HP.
wolfmandan72 2 years ago
couldn't agree more...keep it Euro
eur04lif3 2 years ago 2
@eur04lif3 An LS1 is like a retard on viagra, they'll stick it in anything.
fatdudefoshizzle 2 years ago 2
@fatdudefoshizzle lets see you get 400 dependable horses out of a BMW engine and hammer on it all day. What.....? You say it's not possible? I knew you would agree.
AutoBodyGod 2 years ago
@fatdudefoshizzle couldn't agree more!
eur04lif3 1 year ago
holy fuk!
BigFreakNasty53 2 years ago
gay
gtmuscrat 2 years ago
sounds like the M62 to me.
IDaedalus 2 years ago
somethings fishy here. either way. sick car
MillyFlow 2 years ago
I guess that's one way to get an LS1 powered car to corner well!
casualgiraffe 2 years ago 45
@casualgiraffe haha yeah!
BimmerFreakE39 2 years ago
@casualgiraffe haha, love it! bastard comment, but love it ;)
balitaSR 1 year ago
By putting it into a heavier, poorer handling chassis. Totally. Stop believing everything you read on the internet. For cars with a live rear axle f bodies actually handle pretty damn well.
CockYaLegS 1 year ago
@CockYaLegS
I agree with this. The recirculating ball of the 540i isn't as good as the rack and pinion steering of the 530i. It would make much more sense to throw an LS1 into a 530, plus 530's are cheaper. I'm sure that lightweight Chevy V8 even weighs less than the i6... but definitely weighs less than the 4.4 from BMW.
The 5's do handle better than the F-bodies. There is no question about that. The 50 50 weight distro and awesome dsc program. But F body handling is underrated.
NinjaLikeTeaBagger 1 year ago
@casualgiraffe Cheaper then getting an F body to corner well thats for sure.
koolykool44 1 year ago
@casualgiraffe yeh corvettes dont corner well?
cdawg1113 1 year ago
@cdawg1113 yeah i own an ls1 camaro, and no. They dont especially when your on the gas.
Dh4r0ks5tr 1 year ago
@Dh4r0ks5tr yeah zo6 corner hell a good on the track go to VIR and watch them.
cdawg1113 1 year ago
@casualgiraffe haha. That's kinda funny. But, you might have missed the memo about the ZR1 and the CTS-V around the Nurburgring. ;)
EatPez 1 year ago
@EatPez To bad niether of those cars run an LS1.
RhymeFactory 1 year ago
@RhymeFactory Right, -TOO- bad they don't. They use the LS9, had the roots supercharger strapped to the top of it, with drysump oil system. Engine itself probably weights 100lbs more than the LS1, fully dressed. And can still corner well.
EatPez 1 year ago
HAHA, that's loud; and by the way I know BMWs, I live with BMWs! That is the exact same M62B44 engine it had the first day! That engine is better that the LS stuff (Not as powerful), so why bother?! Just tune it up!
BeautifulMotorWorks 2 years ago
@BeautifulMotorWorks How is it better than an LSx engine? LSx engines have been proven to be one of the friendliest engines for mods and reliability, and you can make A LOT of power with them.
trackx07 2 years ago
haha sounds just like my 540i with open headers...LS1 my ass:)
2drunk2giveashit 2 years ago 2
man u just dont hear that sound coming from that car, pretty sick
ninjacon 2 years ago
somethin about that raw V8 sound coming from that refined, yet sporty looking sedan really does it for me.
contents7 2 years ago
Cool, but a Ford engine would be better.
moternm5 2 years ago
lol wut
silecune 2 years ago
lol at the street glow banner in the shop
3rdgenfbodykid10 2 years ago
I see a lot of haters out here, but this was an excellent project!! You have the best of both worlds
Chap84 2 years ago
Do you have any video of under the hood??? I mean it is a 540 right?? sounds like it just doesn't have exhaust on it and a 4.4 stock bmw motor in it
Bigrick1121 2 years ago
the M62 has a much much smoother idle than an LS1, its definatley a chev engine in there
macthemec 2 years ago
i would like to state for the record that the LS1 is a far, far better motor than the m60-whatever. Cheap, powerful and reliable, and super-simple and easy to maintain.
I like the BMM 4.4 as mucha s the next guy but the LSx series is truly fantastic
Also sounds great.
Props to this guy for a job well done.
mongrelchild 2 years ago
Who cares if it's not a BMW motor? The guy obviously had the time and money to do something different and it came out great. LS1's are badass motors and have much more potential than the stock BMW V8. Hell, if I blew my 540's motor and wanted a new one, I could throw a built LS1 in for less... That is IF it were blown though :)
TRDSC 2 years ago
euro luxury usa rumble and torque .... its beautiful!
barbabart 2 years ago 2
Ruined the bimmer man. Get that Communist motors crap outta there.
UberWagen 2 years ago
Are you kidding me but why would you put an ///M emblem on the car. You need to have the sport package bumper or the aerodynamic kit to make it look better.
RUBYPRINCESS455 2 years ago
Well i dont like the idea of GENERAL MOTORS USING cheap chinese labor.there a wealthy CHINESE COMPANY GMS HUGE IN CHINA.THEY JUST STEAL USA TAX PAYING DOLLARS.
rockondon 2 years ago
this is very cool, just wondering how difficult this conversion was and what did it require. thanx
dre200112000 2 years ago
is there any more video of that bmw ls1 that is so sick
GrnGSRJDM 2 years ago
I love BMWs and wouldn't dream of putting an LS-1 in any but when you can pick up a 540i for around $6k with high miles this is completely understandable...I would drive it...
TyroNeon 2 years ago
People always hate on GM about being bankrupt or watever that bullshit is.
But look around. People use LS1's (Yes, the same motor GM made) in almost anything they can put their hands on!
Its a proven motor. And heres a proven fact. Who gives a fuck about how a automaker does businesswise, as long as they actually make good products, i'm fine with them.
zunetrav4 2 years ago
Yes they make awesome engines, always have! But their cars as a whole sometimes need a whole lot of revision!
jgizzy 2 years ago
this car obviously just has no muffler LOOK!
Defibrillator 2 years ago
what wheels are those ?
Romannovsky 2 years ago
Looks like m pars to me
Caveit77777 2 years ago
What kind of tranny could I put with an LS1 in my 528i?
Robez93 2 years ago
this is sacreligious. like putting a turd in a fuking $800 prada purse...keep the garbage where it belongs...in the dumpster.
whorebot325 2 years ago
i agree
chattabox1114 2 years ago
Real men don't carry purses... But seriously, the LSx engines are pretty friggin' good engines. 400 HP out of the LS1 is a cinch with just some easy bolt-ons. They're practically bullet-proof, cheap to work on, easy to work on and don't weigh much more than the engine being taken out (usually). Beautiful things happen when American Muscle meets European chassis/suspensions.
drumr2790 2 years ago 3
purses are kinda gay, dude.
Pimpydog 2 years ago
Absolutely true. The 540i already came with a brilliantly refined and smooth V8 that is more than capable of playing stop-light-drag-racer. Of course it did have such features as variable valve timing, overhead cams, and a redline somewhere above 3500... all features conspicuously absent on most American engines. Just remember it's not all about horsepower. The M62 is much more refined.
dregenius 2 years ago
That might be true but you can put out so much more horsepower with an american V8 with one tenth of the cost compared to a european V8
tankfes 2 years ago
M62 is hard to get a lot of HP out of without speeding big money on it. Put a dinan super charger on it and you might get 450hp. Shoot a e39 m5 has 400hp stock, but put the Dinan S3 on it and you have 600+ hp, but at a $60,000 price tag. That IS sacreligious. The s/m62 motor is a good motor that can rev at high RPMs all day. But, the tranny's arent that good in them, the VANOS blows donkey nuts when they decide to give up the ghost, $2500 apiece for just parts is insane!
TeXJ2424 2 years ago
Agreed. Let's also not forget the fact that the German engine was well refined and smooth in any type of driving. While no doubt the LS1 is more powerful it 's just plain unnecessary.
c0nv1ct1337 2 years ago
wow, you just fucked up a beautiful car... and you could have gotten way more power out of the stock 4.4L BMW v8.
MTR427 2 years ago
is a LS1 BMW.... its doesn't get better than that.
MonsterC5 2 years ago
can you tell me what kind and size of wheels they are?
bogeytu 2 years ago
This is cool.Why do people think the ls1 is a 'bad' engine?Engines are not bound by pedigree or nationality, so thats a dud arguement.The car companies want them sold in every corner of the world!Let me see, big cubed 'comparatively' low tech, better bang for buck, cheaper maintanence engine, in a 'better' handling euro chassis.Its been done by bigger brained engineers than anyone on this post so it cant be the worse thing one can do to a beemer,
kiwi328i 2 years ago 3
I can't agree with you more. A basic robust engine might not rev as high as an S62 V8 or give as much horsepower but in terms of torque it's going to be the same. And make an incredible noise.
Wouldn't think twice about chucking an LS1 into my M3 if I knew I could cope with the power. But it's still too early.
inurkiewicz 2 years ago