The protestors were pathetic, its religious discrimination on one hand and on the other this was a state visit therefore you were being terrible ambassadors for the country. Long live the Pope!!!
Please do not change topics ! You were clear in your intentions and I am just advising you to be more careful with your mouth ! I do this because I care and really just wanna tell that what you just did was to engage in a death threat, exactly like Mehmet Ali Ağca.
These protests are all part of Cultural Marxism and our sick society in the UK. After the riots however the liberals have well and truly lost the argument and support of the general public. I see a return to Christianity and 1950s values being the future of the UK as we try to undo the massive damage caused by the liberals.
the video is inspiring! herr pope is coming to croatia in a few days, i doubt we will be as organized, but i hope at least someone will listen :) thank you for this video :)
Seeing the protest the pope crowd, I felt so sad I was not there, and proud to see the sentiment expressed so clearly. I would like to be at future events, if I can manage it. Thanks for this video.
it is bizarre how some in britain and elsewhere in europe have turned against what is TRUE and GOOD. The lack of Meaning, Symbol, Tradition, and of course Humanity itself, creates a socio-religious dryness in that society. This has become so bad that you have created new gods in people like Stephen Hawkins who run on batteries and not on legs!! Please RETURN TO GOODNESS!!!!
@BelfastAtheist i love death even death in a fire...dumb ass sick bastard...kkk...nazi...north korean...ahmedinejad...hitler...satan; anything bad is you!!!
@aurajinv I wasn't opposed to his visit in itself, but he was a bit offensive, particularly during the Battle of Britain celebrations. Gordon Brown is as much to blame as he invited him.
The crime of the catholic church is to confuse "god's forgiveness" with forgiveness under the law of the land, thus harbouring paedophiles from the "authorities" who would have the perpetrators rightfully prosecuted. The pope has been harbouring numerous predative paedophiles, he is an unconvicted criminal, unwelcome in the uk.
@outofthegreenmist Re. your statement, 'Homosexuals ...were responsible for 60% of the CHILD RAPE in the Catholic church!' Why not rephrase that and say, 'Priests and other employees of the Catholic Church were responsible for 100% of the sexual assaults on Catholic children'?
Good demo it happened because of the people not because of the organisers. It was so badly organised. The Italian man on the back of the truck kept people waiting for hours and some started to go home. When we got to the end of the march the Italian man told people to keep on walking and they did pass the barrier to the train station and home.
@turdbogbuster What is an official figure? Would you care to tell me how they came about with this statistic? and whether it is factually correct? And if it is, how?
Homosexuals make up 10% of the population but were responsible for 60% of the CHILD RAPE in the Catholic church! Do the maths and that makes HOMOSEXUALS 13 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO RAPE A CHILD than a normal person!
@ifiknewuwherecoming no you didn't miss it on British TV, there were more important stories at the time like the 200 000 people along the Mall cheering for the pope!
A marvellous record of the Day that people walked, laughed, chatted, sang songs, spoke passionately and showed that the peaceful atheist/secular/humanist/real world was a loving, caring and compassionate place to live.
@doza2112 Thank you very much. We agree about the music! There's a link on our website which will take you to Peter Rudenko's opsound page from which you can download the song.
If you had so much support in the UK why no significant protests in Scotland or Birmingham? This was just the actions of a few WHITE and rather silly liberals from London. So passionate in your cause that you couldn't even be bothered to take a 1.5hr coach journey to Birmingham on a Sunday morning!
@turdbogbuster This protest was specifically targetted and planned to get the attention of government, hense the rally concluding outside Downing Street. The other protests were improvised. Seems odd that you bring race into the issue, I don't see the relevence and also you apparently weren't there to judge for yourself, I was, it was as multicultural an event as I have ever seen. It took a 13 hour round trip on a coach for us to attend to the protests. Some even came from Rome itself.
@JamesMcGoof race is an important issue in modern Britain as we live in a very multicultural society. The fact this protest was almost exclusively white and unable to replicate itself in Scotland or Birmingham shows a very small narrow band of support. The papal events themselves were post-Hillsborough, hence restricted access, draconian security and high ticket costs. Had the events been completely open to anyone like John Paul in 1982, I'm fairly confident all would have been 100 000+.
@turdbogbuster Only 2/3 of the expected crowds showed up. It was a slap in the face, and a well-deserved one. People are sick of that pampered old phony and his grubby church.
@outofthegreenmist 200 000 lined the Mall in London, 125 000 on the streets of Edinburgh - certainly not expected given the vile anti-Catholic hostility whipped up by a few gays in the media! People saw with their own eyes the beauty of the Catholic church and voted with their feet to come out and cheer the pope at every opportunity!
@turdbogbuster "and voted with their feet to come out and cheer the pope at every opportunity!" - Well not quite every opportunity. When I saw the Pope he was booed by the vast majority of people in the streets. And this was not at the protest.
@turdbogbuster Re. 'People saw with their own eyes the beauty of the Catholic church ...' LOL! Yeah, and tens of thousands of devout Catholics found something better to do than show up to see Christ's representative on Earth when he was just down the road! In an act of desperation, they tried to entice Irish Catholics to come over, and even then they couldn't fill the spaces available. Not surprising, given what has come out in the last few years. Ah well, the fraudulent creep's gone now.
@outofthegreenmist half a million were out there to support him and many more watching TV at home! We won you lost! The people of Britain don't give a shit about gay rights or all the other nonsense you guys spout! They support the moral message of the pope!
@turdbogbuster If (yes, if) that is true then you effectively have several hundred thousand people who care more about their imagined souls than the suffering and injustice done to hundreds (possibly thousands) of their co-believers' children. That deserves my pity but never my respect. It is shameful that you crow about numbers of supporters of this corrupt regime.
@Nikchadd you believe that version if you like, but child abuse in the Catholic church has historically never been any higher than the general population and is now much lower and used as an example by child protection experts! It is however a side issue.
The true mission of the pope is to start the battle in the UK against aggressive secular atheists. Like the Nazis and communists they wish to supress religion and all our other freedoms. They are a cancer in society we need to remove!
@turdbogbuster "Like the Nazis and communists they wish to supress religion and all our other freedoms. They are a cancer in society we need to remove! " - What's that about supressing freedom?
@turdbogbuster attempting to deflect my attention (like ratzinger did) from rcc crimes onto child rape by the non-religious will not do. Instances of child rape in the rcc were actively and institutionally covered up and perpetrators were moved to other parishes to continue their crimes. That is indefensible. But go ahead and give it your best try.
@Nikchadd long time ago now, pope has apologiesd. However, what is it exactly you do to promote child care in your own community? I've always been interested in how atheists inspire and bring up children with a positive message, as most secular state schools are crap. Please do enlighten me?
@outofthegreenmist yes forgive and forget is sometimes a good idea. Makes you become bitter and twisted otherwise! Some of these protesters are a good such example!!
@turdbogbuster Well, it's easier to forgive and forget when you're not the one who was attacked; Jesus may have advocated forgiveness, but it is up to the person who was actually wronged to do the forgiving, not for the self-righteous to forgive on their behalf and criticize the abused for not forgiving. I imagine having one's childhood innocence stolen, trampled on and sullied by a priest who is then protected from prosecution by his church is a difficult thing to live with, never mind forgive.
@outofthegreenmist likewise its not up to homosexuals to take offence on behalf of such victims, simply because they have an axe to grin against the Roman Catholic church!
@BelfastAtheist turdbogmaster has deleted his account, but is no doubt up and running again with a new ID. You also replied to a comment I made some while ago, and can't remember what it was about exactly; nor can I find your reply here, for some reason, even though it's in my inbox.
@Nikchadd Check out turdbogbuster's channel. There's a video depicting Madeline McCann having an anvil dropped on her head. At the end of the video, it says, 'Madeline is dead. Get over it. hahahaha!' Regardless of what you think about the McCann case, the idea of a child dying horribly is not most people's idea of a good laugh. I think this tells us all we need to know about this sad apologist for child-molesting priests.
@turdbogbuster Have you even watched the video you're replying to? 2:34 Does that honestly look like 4,000 people to you? The estimates you're cherry-picking were taken from early in the day before the scheduled protest had even started. I think you'll gain more respect from people reading these comments if you actually respond to the issues raised in the protest and the video, rather than dismissing the actual issues based on irrelevent false information.
@JamesMcGoof I was generous originally and gave you 10 000. Still a 50:1 ratio of support for the pope! You are unlikely to get such support again as the British press got their fingers burnt and were made to look very stupid with their prediction of mass hostility towards the pope!
As for the issues raised, the Catholic church is a 2000 year old institution. I see no need for it to change to accomodate the sordid behaviour of a few that have a difficulty with their conscience!
@turdbogbuster Sensible people will see that it's about the issues not the numbers of people. But as you seem to value the numbers argument, why are you ignoring the fact that of an available 80,000 tickets (Birmingham) only 55,000 Catholics bothered to show? This out of the alleged 6m British Catholics, only 1m of whom say they EVER attend church. As for your second paragraph, there's no arguing with someone who values tradition over morality. But thank you for actually stating your position.
@JamesMcGoof I agree - secularism and atheism are not necessarily the same thing. To those, you can also add 'humanism'; they may have much in common, but are not identical - some secularists are Christians, and not atheists at all.
500 000 in the UK came out to see the pope, only 10 000 were in the protest against. British people showed their loyal support of the pope at a ratio of 50:1 in favour!
Extreme atheist secularism is not welcome in the UK and the British people will stand up to it just like the Nazis and communists that wanted to eliminate religion from society!
Protest the pope was a COMPLETE FAILURE as the Catholic church has now gained immensely in strength from this visit! God bless the pope!!
@turdbogbuster Quick factual correction, the estimates of the number of protestors are actually closer to 20,000, and that was in London alone. There were numerous other protests around the country. But to even compare numbers between the two events is a little silly, the Pope's visit had the financial support of both the obscenely wealthy Catholic Church AND the British government, with a huge amount of advertising. The protests had next to no advertisement, and still had 20,000 participants.
@JamesMcGoof This protest was always a minority of nutters and gained irresponsible and disproportionate attention from the likes of the BBC, Guardian and Independent to whip up anti-Catholic hatred. They have all quickly retreated from this position as they realise how out of step with the British people they really are! Were it not for this attention you would have been lucky to get more than a couple of hundre turning up!
@turdbogbuster Also from personal anecdotal evidence I can say 99% of the general public in the streets were overwhelmingly in support of the protest, which is why the number grew from 12,000 at the start to 20,000 by the end. "Extreme atheist secularism" is a blindingly ignorant description. Secularism and atheism are two separate things, this protest was secularist, not atheist, there were MANY Catholics taking part. The protest was against the visit being state funded, not his right to visit.
@JamesMcGoof Agreed. He had a right to visit, but he was unwise to say the things he did, and Dawkins et al had the right to respond. I imagined I'd simply ignore the visit but, right from the start, his insulting comments, the fawning of the media, the kowtowing of our leaders, all led to me getting angrier and angrier about the whole thing. I clearly wasn't alone, given the protest almost doubling, as you have claimed.
This is an awesome video, nice job. I think it captures the essence of the day. The only thing that would have made it better is if you'd got some shots of me in there ;-)
@robertjede I agree. The comments have strayed onto the issues brought up by the visit, and away from the quality of the video itself, which is excellent. For instance, at 0:10, the Pope's head is obscured by the clock face. Great photography, great editing, great music.
Thank you so much for posting this wonderful video! I couldn't agree more with its content! In my opinion, it was an insult to the citizens in the UK to have members of the vile vatican set foot in their country. A disgrace.
@Theapopi Agreed. We were supposed to be commemorating the 70th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain when we repelled an attempted invasion by Ratzinger's countrymen.
This makes me want to be English, but NOOOO, I had to be born Mexican. Well at least as a Mexican I can wear a poncho....so I guess it works out.
redshadowsword 4 weeks ago
God bless the Pope !
- May Britain come back one day to the Catholic Church and undone all the crimes of Henry VIII !
Multi0703 1 month ago
@Multi0703
Fuck the pope and all his paedophile priests.
atheistgeezer 3 weeks ago
@atheistgeezer
God bless, the priests, the Holy Family and the Church !
Multi0703 3 weeks ago
The protestors were pathetic, its religious discrimination on one hand and on the other this was a state visit therefore you were being terrible ambassadors for the country. Long live the Pope!!!
OFreegal 2 months ago
@OFreegal KILL THE POPE ONE OF THE GREATEST CRIMINALS OF OUR TIME!
KKCvids 1 month ago
@KKCvids
Yep. Threatening to kill a person is a crime, according to Common Law and ANY other kind of judicial system, did you know that young fellow?
- Did you know that what you just said is against the law and if taken to authorities, it could cause huge trouble ?
You gotta be very careful with what you wish and say !
Multi0703 1 month ago
@Multi0703 O so when a politic says kill Muhamar Gadaffi he turns into a a criminal?
KKCvids 1 month ago
@KKCvids
Please do not change topics ! You were clear in your intentions and I am just advising you to be more careful with your mouth ! I do this because I care and really just wanna tell that what you just did was to engage in a death threat, exactly like Mehmet Ali Ağca.
Multi0703 1 month ago
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atheistgeezer 3 weeks ago
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vidysh22 4 months ago
Who knows, god may be telling these people to rebel the corruption.
Spoolooni 5 months ago
These protests are all part of Cultural Marxism and our sick society in the UK. After the riots however the liberals have well and truly lost the argument and support of the general public. I see a return to Christianity and 1950s values being the future of the UK as we try to undo the massive damage caused by the liberals.
HannahGirl81 6 months ago
You sound like a completely brainwashed idiot
Born2Flesh 4 months ago
Dude the pope is awesome
asebrookb 6 months ago
the video is inspiring! herr pope is coming to croatia in a few days, i doubt we will be as organized, but i hope at least someone will listen :) thank you for this video :)
rumpelstiltskin67 8 months ago
Seeing the protest the pope crowd, I felt so sad I was not there, and proud to see the sentiment expressed so clearly. I would like to be at future events, if I can manage it. Thanks for this video.
LsBaba 9 months ago
There is an anti-Catholic crusade being waged by the Jewish dominated media in the West. These protest-the-pope idiots need to wake up to that fact.
1thousandways 10 months ago
We don't support lies and domination by "Jews" or the Catholic Church.
Born2Flesh 4 months ago
Hey, awesome video! This year the pope is going to come to Germany, were i live...
But let him come,, we will give him a angry welcoming!
Well done, Britain!
TheWildbetta 1 year ago
it is bizarre how some in britain and elsewhere in europe have turned against what is TRUE and GOOD. The lack of Meaning, Symbol, Tradition, and of course Humanity itself, creates a socio-religious dryness in that society. This has become so bad that you have created new gods in people like Stephen Hawkins who run on batteries and not on legs!! Please RETURN TO GOODNESS!!!!
tfnat 1 year ago
@tfnat
I really, honestly hope you die in a fire.
BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
@BelfastAtheist i love death even death in a fire...dumb ass sick bastard...kkk...nazi...north korean...ahmedinejad...hitler...satan; anything bad is you!!!
tfnat 1 year ago
@tfnat
Lol.
BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
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@tfnat "like Stephen Hawkins who run on batteries and not on legs!! "
But if he just did nothing and prayed it wouldn't be running at all.
badpanda84 1 year ago
What camera was used to shoot this video? Cheers.
sunhuts 1 year ago
GO HOME POPE! GO HOME POPE!! GO HOME POPE!!!
aurajinv 1 year ago
@aurajinv LOL! It's two months ago. He's away already! Relax.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@outofthegreenmist Ha ha! I know, silly, I just like saying it. Go home pope! ;p
aurajinv 1 year ago
@aurajinv I wasn't opposed to his visit in itself, but he was a bit offensive, particularly during the Battle of Britain celebrations. Gordon Brown is as much to blame as he invited him.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
Fuck this pope, piece of shit bastard
XforeverlongingX 1 year ago
The crime of the catholic church is to confuse "god's forgiveness" with forgiveness under the law of the land, thus harbouring paedophiles from the "authorities" who would have the perpetrators rightfully prosecuted. The pope has been harbouring numerous predative paedophiles, he is an unconvicted criminal, unwelcome in the uk.
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namo939 1 year ago
I think we can all see exactly who is 'bitter and twisted' in this debate, thank you very much.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@outofthegreenmist yes those that pretend to have a genuine interest in the welfare of children whilst in reality they truly don't give a shit!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster LOL! Says someone who's full of it!
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
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@outofthegreenmist Re. your statement, 'Homosexuals ...were responsible for 60% of the CHILD RAPE in the Catholic church!' Why not rephrase that and say, 'Priests and other employees of the Catholic Church were responsible for 100% of the sexual assaults on Catholic children'?
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
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BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
Good demo it happened because of the people not because of the organisers. It was so badly organised. The Italian man on the back of the truck kept people waiting for hours and some started to go home. When we got to the end of the march the Italian man told people to keep on walking and they did pass the barrier to the train station and home.
Crime1234management 1 year ago
@SanduronVideo still looks like the offiicial figure of 4000!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
1:01 only 4000 people turned out for this according to the OFFICIAL figure from the Met police. What an embarassment!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster What is an official figure? Would you care to tell me how they came about with this statistic? and whether it is factually correct? And if it is, how?
TheVirginQueenShane 1 year ago
@TheVirginQueenShane reported in the Times as 4000 protesters, the official figure of the Met police. A true FAILURE given all that publicity!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
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Homosexuals make up 10% of the population but were responsible for 60% of the CHILD RAPE in the Catholic church! Do the maths and that makes HOMOSEXUALS 13 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO RAPE A CHILD than a normal person!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
Thank you for making this video - did i miss the coverage on British tv! Also thank you to @ajimsweeney, another gem he's brought to our attention.
ifiknewuwherecoming 1 year ago
@ifiknewuwherecoming no you didn't miss it on British TV, there were more important stories at the time like the 200 000 people along the Mall cheering for the pope!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
A fabulous record of the day when the humanist/atheist/secular/real world showed that it is a warm, caring, loving and compassionate place to live.
SirRobertBellinger 1 year ago
@SirRobertBellinger and only a very small place made up of WHITE MIDDLE CLASS BIGOTS. Just like the BNP!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster As nutty as a fruit cake. Really. You are really bananas. Get help.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
A marvellous record of the Day that people walked, laughed, chatted, sang songs, spoke passionately and showed that the peaceful atheist/secular/humanist/real world was a loving, caring and compassionate place to live.
SirRobertBellinger 1 year ago
@KITCHENOFDISTINCTION Go easy on turd, he's been brainwashed.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
this music is incredible. along with the editing of this video. sauduronvideo you are quality
doza2112 1 year ago
@doza2112 Thank you very much. We agree about the music! There's a link on our website which will take you to Peter Rudenko's opsound page from which you can download the song.
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ferryhouse77 1 year ago
If you had so much support in the UK why no significant protests in Scotland or Birmingham? This was just the actions of a few WHITE and rather silly liberals from London. So passionate in your cause that you couldn't even be bothered to take a 1.5hr coach journey to Birmingham on a Sunday morning!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster This protest was specifically targetted and planned to get the attention of government, hense the rally concluding outside Downing Street. The other protests were improvised. Seems odd that you bring race into the issue, I don't see the relevence and also you apparently weren't there to judge for yourself, I was, it was as multicultural an event as I have ever seen. It took a 13 hour round trip on a coach for us to attend to the protests. Some even came from Rome itself.
JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
@JamesMcGoof race is an important issue in modern Britain as we live in a very multicultural society. The fact this protest was almost exclusively white and unable to replicate itself in Scotland or Birmingham shows a very small narrow band of support. The papal events themselves were post-Hillsborough, hence restricted access, draconian security and high ticket costs. Had the events been completely open to anyone like John Paul in 1982, I'm fairly confident all would have been 100 000+.
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Rubbish. They expected 100,000 in Glasgow 35,000 didn't show up. Nothing to do with Health & Safety, and more to do with apathy.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@outofthegreenmist still got half a million to turn out! We won, you lost!
Benedict 1-0 Protest the pope.
God bless the pope!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Only 2/3 of the expected crowds showed up. It was a slap in the face, and a well-deserved one. People are sick of that pampered old phony and his grubby church.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@outofthegreenmist 200 000 lined the Mall in London, 125 000 on the streets of Edinburgh - certainly not expected given the vile anti-Catholic hostility whipped up by a few gays in the media! People saw with their own eyes the beauty of the Catholic church and voted with their feet to come out and cheer the pope at every opportunity!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster "and voted with their feet to come out and cheer the pope at every opportunity!" - Well not quite every opportunity. When I saw the Pope he was booed by the vast majority of people in the streets. And this was not at the protest.
JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
@JamesMcGoof I was there myself and EVERYONE was cheering, yes EVERYONE of the HALF A MILLION! Ha ha ha
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Re. 'People saw with their own eyes the beauty of the Catholic church ...' LOL! Yeah, and tens of thousands of devout Catholics found something better to do than show up to see Christ's representative on Earth when he was just down the road! In an act of desperation, they tried to entice Irish Catholics to come over, and even then they couldn't fill the spaces available. Not surprising, given what has come out in the last few years. Ah well, the fraudulent creep's gone now.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@outofthegreenmist half a million were out there to support him and many more watching TV at home! We won you lost! The people of Britain don't give a shit about gay rights or all the other nonsense you guys spout! They support the moral message of the pope!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster You believe in hell. Go there.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster What moral message? The rape of children? The often brutal denial of the efficiency of condoms?
TheVirginQueenShane 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster If (yes, if) that is true then you effectively have several hundred thousand people who care more about their imagined souls than the suffering and injustice done to hundreds (possibly thousands) of their co-believers' children. That deserves my pity but never my respect. It is shameful that you crow about numbers of supporters of this corrupt regime.
Nikchadd 1 year ago
@Nikchadd you believe that version if you like, but child abuse in the Catholic church has historically never been any higher than the general population and is now much lower and used as an example by child protection experts! It is however a side issue.
The true mission of the pope is to start the battle in the UK against aggressive secular atheists. Like the Nazis and communists they wish to supress religion and all our other freedoms. They are a cancer in society we need to remove!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster "Like the Nazis and communists they wish to supress religion and all our other freedoms. They are a cancer in society we need to remove! " - What's that about supressing freedom?
JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
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JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster attempting to deflect my attention (like ratzinger did) from rcc crimes onto child rape by the non-religious will not do. Instances of child rape in the rcc were actively and institutionally covered up and perpetrators were moved to other parishes to continue their crimes. That is indefensible. But go ahead and give it your best try.
Nikchadd 1 year ago
@Nikchadd long time ago now, pope has apologiesd. However, what is it exactly you do to promote child care in your own community? I've always been interested in how atheists inspire and bring up children with a positive message, as most secular state schools are crap. Please do enlighten me?
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Re. 'long time ago now, pope has apologiesd.' Ah, that's OK then. Forgive and forget! Amazing, isn't it?
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@outofthegreenmist yes forgive and forget is sometimes a good idea. Makes you become bitter and twisted otherwise! Some of these protesters are a good such example!!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Well, it's easier to forgive and forget when you're not the one who was attacked; Jesus may have advocated forgiveness, but it is up to the person who was actually wronged to do the forgiving, not for the self-righteous to forgive on their behalf and criticize the abused for not forgiving. I imagine having one's childhood innocence stolen, trampled on and sullied by a priest who is then protected from prosecution by his church is a difficult thing to live with, never mind forgive.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago 2
@outofthegreenmist likewise its not up to homosexuals to take offence on behalf of such victims, simply because they have an axe to grin against the Roman Catholic church!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster
Shut up and die, your comments are terribly embarrasing to read.
BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
@BelfastAtheist turdbogmaster has deleted his account, but is no doubt up and running again with a new ID. You also replied to a comment I made some while ago, and can't remember what it was about exactly; nor can I find your reply here, for some reason, even though it's in my inbox.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
@outofthegreenmist
I have an occasional habit of replying to the wrong person..I may have deleted it to avoid confusion.
BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
@Nikchadd Check out turdbogbuster's channel. There's a video depicting Madeline McCann having an anvil dropped on her head. At the end of the video, it says, 'Madeline is dead. Get over it. hahahaha!' Regardless of what you think about the McCann case, the idea of a child dying horribly is not most people's idea of a good laugh. I think this tells us all we need to know about this sad apologist for child-molesting priests.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
Met Police put the figure on those attending at 4000!!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Have you even watched the video you're replying to? 2:34 Does that honestly look like 4,000 people to you? The estimates you're cherry-picking were taken from early in the day before the scheduled protest had even started. I think you'll gain more respect from people reading these comments if you actually respond to the issues raised in the protest and the video, rather than dismissing the actual issues based on irrelevent false information.
JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
@JamesMcGoof I was generous originally and gave you 10 000. Still a 50:1 ratio of support for the pope! You are unlikely to get such support again as the British press got their fingers burnt and were made to look very stupid with their prediction of mass hostility towards the pope!
As for the issues raised, the Catholic church is a 2000 year old institution. I see no need for it to change to accomodate the sordid behaviour of a few that have a difficulty with their conscience!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Sensible people will see that it's about the issues not the numbers of people. But as you seem to value the numbers argument, why are you ignoring the fact that of an available 80,000 tickets (Birmingham) only 55,000 Catholics bothered to show? This out of the alleged 6m British Catholics, only 1m of whom say they EVER attend church. As for your second paragraph, there's no arguing with someone who values tradition over morality. But thank you for actually stating your position.
JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
@JamesMcGoof I agree - secularism and atheism are not necessarily the same thing. To those, you can also add 'humanism'; they may have much in common, but are not identical - some secularists are Christians, and not atheists at all.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
500 000 in the UK came out to see the pope, only 10 000 were in the protest against. British people showed their loyal support of the pope at a ratio of 50:1 in favour!
Extreme atheist secularism is not welcome in the UK and the British people will stand up to it just like the Nazis and communists that wanted to eliminate religion from society!
Protest the pope was a COMPLETE FAILURE as the Catholic church has now gained immensely in strength from this visit! God bless the pope!!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Quick factual correction, the estimates of the number of protestors are actually closer to 20,000, and that was in London alone. There were numerous other protests around the country. But to even compare numbers between the two events is a little silly, the Pope's visit had the financial support of both the obscenely wealthy Catholic Church AND the British government, with a huge amount of advertising. The protests had next to no advertisement, and still had 20,000 participants.
JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
@JamesMcGoof This protest was always a minority of nutters and gained irresponsible and disproportionate attention from the likes of the BBC, Guardian and Independent to whip up anti-Catholic hatred. They have all quickly retreated from this position as they realise how out of step with the British people they really are! Were it not for this attention you would have been lucky to get more than a couple of hundre turning up!
turdbogbuster 1 year ago
@turdbogbuster Also from personal anecdotal evidence I can say 99% of the general public in the streets were overwhelmingly in support of the protest, which is why the number grew from 12,000 at the start to 20,000 by the end. "Extreme atheist secularism" is a blindingly ignorant description. Secularism and atheism are two separate things, this protest was secularist, not atheist, there were MANY Catholics taking part. The protest was against the visit being state funded, not his right to visit.
JamesMcGoof 1 year ago
@JamesMcGoof Agreed. He had a right to visit, but he was unwise to say the things he did, and Dawkins et al had the right to respond. I imagined I'd simply ignore the visit but, right from the start, his insulting comments, the fawning of the media, the kowtowing of our leaders, all led to me getting angrier and angrier about the whole thing. I clearly wasn't alone, given the protest almost doubling, as you have claimed.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
Sanduron: Video producers of the revolution!
DeluX316 1 year ago 8
wonderful ! thank you ! wonderful piano :) historical moments :) in memory at the pope ;) ... one day we will have completly forget him...
baddi1973abc 1 year ago 2
@doza:
Music: 'If' by Peter Rudenko.
(info copied from the Sanduron.com website)
EricOnTheTube 1 year ago
Whats the name of this song?
doza2112 1 year ago
@doza2112 This info is available in both the video description and the sanduron.com website as pointed out by @EricOnTheTube (thanks)
SanduronVideo 1 year ago
@SanduronVideo cheers thanks
doza2112 1 year ago
whoop! that's me at 1:03 - great video. thanks for posting.
els76uk 1 year ago
This is an awesome video, nice job. I think it captures the essence of the day. The only thing that would have made it better is if you'd got some shots of me in there ;-)
robertjede 1 year ago 5
@robertjede I agree. The comments have strayed onto the issues brought up by the visit, and away from the quality of the video itself, which is excellent. For instance, at 0:10, the Pope's head is obscured by the clock face. Great photography, great editing, great music.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago
Nice video, I've got goose bumps!
iblgbk 1 year ago 3
Thank you so much for posting this wonderful video! I couldn't agree more with its content! In my opinion, it was an insult to the citizens in the UK to have members of the vile vatican set foot in their country. A disgrace.
Theapopi 1 year ago 3
@Theapopi Agreed. We were supposed to be commemorating the 70th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain when we repelled an attempted invasion by Ratzinger's countrymen.
outofthegreenmist 1 year ago