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  • Both are good weapons, end of story.

  • these guys talk way to highly of the m16 platform and please get the facts FNH supplies 80% of military m16s

  • Deal with it people the m16 is better

  • @esh325 yes but they are talking about m855 out of an m4. I agree your not getting reliable fragmentation at range with that hence other rds used now I've mentioned before. I'm with ya on any rd can kill and I have army doctors tests saying it can do great damage as well. And you an I know Bob there didn't quite understand the ballistic charts and data lol. Fackler shot more then ballistics gel in his tests.

  • OH all of u stfu about this. Go bag on th m16 on a AK47 video I swear. I came hear to watch an m16 video, i dont need u retards talkin about about all its negative aspects and how much better the AK47 is. Because let me tell you, the AK47 has some flaws, don't let me go into it wit y'all

  • at 1:29 it looks like that machine is jizzing thimbs upif you agree

  • at !:32 it looks like that machine is jizzin thumbs up if you agree :)

  • my take on the 5.56mm is that it can do great damage but it doesn't do it consistently too many factors interfere w/ its effectiveness. And why are the bothering to train pogues&fobbits with rifles&bullets, the should use a computer for training--just kidding.

  • I hate when people knock the 5.56. I want so see you get shot with it if you think it doesn't do much damage.

  • @THE13EARJEW I wouldn't want to get hit by a .22 LR even. All rounds can kill you, but the question is how reliability can it kill? There is a lot of reports that suggest the 5.56x45 is not lethal enough.

  • people say 5.45 is better but the russians made it after they discovered the knock down power of the 5.56 so who ever says this round is crap is also high because u look at ballistics charts and ballistic gellitan test there is a major hole on the inside of the gel after a shot so ya it has knock down power plus u put a 3 round burst into a center of mass a guy will go down even with one shot with this gun

  • @bob101579 There's no such thing as knockdown power. And ballistic gelatin is not the end all my friend. I have a report by an army doctor where he said the 5.56x45 could do very minimal wounds rather then devastating.

  • The BEST!

  • The engineering behind this gun is just awesome, im not a big guns fan, but this is awesome.

  • Sorry kids, you're talking crap.

    It's not it's not just it's aerodynamics or weight that make it tumble. In fact the 5.56x45mm, still has a problem, that it doesn't tumble how expected...

    All the ballistics of the 5.56x45mm, that include energy, velocity, weight and shape, make it tumble...

    About the Russian ''poison bullet'', the 5.45x39mm, it's the most contralable thing i have ever fired, and it always tumbles...

    I have fired both rifles, and have been in army since 2000, so any complaints...

  • @Antunez99 Yeah I heard over in Iraq a lot of times the bullets wouldn't tumble at all when it entered a body so its not doing any damage and the Iraqi Insurgents aren't going down. Thats why they developed the 6.8x48mm Remington SPC.

  • @WillieWonka928D They also quit using armor piercing rounds against people not wearing armor of any kind and that problem went away. No real problem with the 5.56.

  • So that's what the thingy on the side does?

  • "the reliability of it was almost zero" yeah well if ya cleaned it it would work.

  • they didn't wait for the soviet union to fall, in the 70's they used similar rounds on there new ak74. it was the 5.45x39mm also known as "poison bullet"

  • so the m 16 has a smaller round but faster speed and the ak family uses a larger round but less speed so if u listened to ur sciene class during high school you will find out that the effects are equal cuz force=mass x acceleration so ha the only real factor that decides witch is better is durability rate of fire accuracy and weight both are good only on some of it so in a way they fill each others gap

  • my uncle was a master sergeant in Vietnam, coming from WWII and Korea, he told me the rifle was everything but welcomed when they started to use it in Vietnam, and that he sticked to his .30 m1 carbine until he was forced to take the m16, because the first ones they started using in vietnam overheated during firefights and lost accuracy and ammo was defective.

  • This is the new Army basic training? Male and females trainees together. Shooting on the rifle range with NO LBE, with NO steel pot? Shooting with soft caps? What gives?

  • @RifleM16A4 AK-47>GayR-15. The AK74 is just as accurate as the AR depending on the shooter.

  • @7commenter7 no AK could hit a person at 550 yards...that's just a simple fact...think before you write

  • @anteracmacash Not the AK47, but the maybe AK74. If you want to shoot 550 yards get another gun the assault rifle was not meant for that. Most engagements happen under 300.

  • @7commenter7 that's a big difference

  • @anteracmacash Reliability, Simplicity, Cheapness. THOSE are big differences.

  • @7commenter7 300 meters and 500 meters...those too are big differences...also is recoil and target grouping

  • @anteracmacash AK47 is manageable even on full auto if you master the stance, theres a million videos on youtube. And if the caliber is your problem, AK74!!!!

  • @7commenter7 first of all, ak74 is not an ak47...second of all, if you mount it to a fucking concrete building it still wouldn't be able to outperform an M16 in accuracy and distance cause of the aerodynamic features of the two bullets (5.56 is alot faster and it glides threw the air), cause of the loose mechanics on the ak (the parts around the bolt are much more loose for the reliability) and cause of the fact that the barell on the ak vibrates much more vialently then on the m16

  • @anteracmacash Uh, duh? Of course the AK74 is not the AK47. I dont get what that meant.  It's still an AK though.

  • @7commenter7 AK is a term used for Avtomat Kalashnikova 1947...the ak74 has a smaller caliber which doesn't make it the original AK

  • @anteracmacash No, AK= Avtomat Kalashnikova, AK47 = Avtomat Kalashnikova 1947. It's the original design in different caliber. The M16 that the US is using is the M16A4. It's gone through a lot of changes. That's not the original.

  • @7commenter7 the changes in the M16A4 compared to the original are minor...a change in caliber of a weapon is a huge change...if you would do the opposite and make the cartridge larger then the AK wouldn't even be considered an assault rifle...that's a change in weapons class

  • @anteracmacash OMG stop lying to yourself!! It doesnt matter if you drop a 7.62 AK in the mud, or a 5.45 AK in the mud. It does, though, matter if you drop an M16A1 or M16A4, if that makes sense. M16A1 you couldn't mount accessories, which you are so deeply obsessed with, go 3 shot burst, it didnt have a chromed barrel, forward assist, etc. the AR10 is still the AR design.

  • @7commenter7 those are all minor changes. A caliber change is a change of weapons class. That's why the FN FAL for example is no longer considered an assault rifle. All cause it changed from the .280 british caliber to the 7.62 nato. The bullet is everything and the term AK is a general term used for the AK47. And the AR10 is not the same as an M16 just like an M16 is not the same as an HK416. The AR10 is in a different class (battle rifle) and it never saw service in the U.S.

  • @anteracmacash Minor, yea right. And when you change from one intermediate round to another intermediate round it's not a change in class. -- An AK is an AK. you're right, he M16 isn't the same as the HK416, they work totally different. But people praise the AR PLATFORM. If you watch this program ^ you'll see when they talk about the M16, they talk about how you can put it in this cal and that cal. The M110 is still the AR PLATFORM. Hey, bro, the proof is in the pudding, AK > AR

  • @7commenter7 find me exactly where in the video above where anyone is mentioning the AK74. the video is about AK47 vs M16...not ak74, not hk416, not ar10, just simply M16 vs. AK47 and the M16 is superior in accuracy, distance, bullet speed, weight, design from an engineering stand point. About the replacement, a few months ago the new commandant of the Marine Corps conducted a survey in Afghanistan according to which 90% of the troops don't have any problem with the M16 or with jamming.

  • @anteracmacash -- This video is simply about the M16, not M16 vs. AK47. The service rifle of Russia right now is the AK74. You said the M16 is superior in weight? Agreed, the AK would be better if it was as light as the M16, but modern AKs are what, one pound heavier than the M16? ( I sent two comments so read the other one too )

  • @7commenter7 the video above is a part of a documentary about the M16 which compares the M16 to the AK47...I also sent you 2 comments

  • @anteracmacash Uggh, no, it's not, but whatever. So, your arguing about the caliber, i'm arguing about the gun. The service rifle of Russia right now is the AK74. You said the M16 is superior in weight? Agreed, the AK would be better if it was as light as the M16, but modern AKs are what, one pound heavier than the M16?

  • @7commenter7 1 pound is a magazine of ammo. And even thought "modern" AKs are not mentioned in the video, they're still not as accurate as the M16. They have the same effective range but because of the loose space around the bolt,, cause of the size of the bolt and the way it operates, cause of the same wobbly construction of the barrel as on the AK47 and cause of the inferior sights; at certain distances it's simply impossible to make groups as tight as with the M16.

  • @7commenter7 i own both.

  • @7commenter7

    its actualy ak 101,103,105and 107/108

  • @kolinmartz True, but what I was saying is they fire the 5.45 x 39 round.

  • @7commenter7u mean 5.56 x 45

  • @kolinmartz I stand corrected. But is it true that modern AKs fire a more aerodynamic round, that tumbles?

  • @7commenter7

    actualy its not the aerodynamics that makes it tumbles its the speed and the mass of the 5.56 round and ya its true after the soviet union fell they used 5.56 x 45 NATO noticed i put nato cause nato is the largest user of that ammunition

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  • @anteracmacash Oh and the US is looking for a replacement for the M16. If the competing rifles were the same price we would switch ASAP. Nobody's looking for a replacement for the AK, they're more than happy. The reason the US wont use the AK is because of the whole Russia vs America-Ugly bad guy gun ignorance thing.

  • @7commenter7 A platform is not the same as a gun. The Barrett REC7 is not the same as the M16, nor is the HK416 (which is just an M16 with a piston). A change in caliber is change in class. The AK74 uses a high velocity round while the AK47 uses a slow velocity round. You've used the term AK which is a general term for the AK47, not the AK74. They both have the same design and the same platform but they are not the same rifle and the term AK is not used for the AK74. It's as simple as that

  • @RifleM16A4 that shooting test was shit

    I can hit a human on 200 yards with my AK-47

  • @rammsteinlover1337 true, did the same absolutely no problem, with ak74 even 400 are no issue

  • Now Stoner had specifically requested that stick powder be used in the AR-15, yet the Ordnance Department still went with the ball power. Why the hell, especially when it was quite clear in tests that stick power was much more effective?

  • @Hoot1SFD

    If remember correctly, the reason is, the people pushing for the introduction feels that ball power gives a better range then the stick powder.

    More range = better from their point of view. Go search up on Tales of the Gun: M-16. I believe they gave the explaination there.

  • Communist weapons sucks! M16 RULEZ THE AK BOYS!

  • @Marine17inlove you dont know shit????? ak47>m16

  • AK74 is the BEST all around small rifle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT i lke still like the ar

  • i love m16.

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  • AK-74 kills them all

  • @D011ARS4G011D not really. even though the ak74 have less recoil than an ak47 it still has the same horrible sights. m16 ftw

  • @D011ARS4G011D

    the sights on the AK 74 suck

    peep sights are the best

  • @AGeekWithAShotgun thats why we have reflex sights.

  • @D011ARS4G011D

    Still, the AK-74 is not as accurate as the M16. Forgetting the floated barrel, are we? And the 5.56x45mm still has better ballistic, around 100-150fps faster

  • @AGeekWithAShotgun But I wouldn't think so in close range combat.

    I like the XM16E1. Looks just so nice to hanging on wall.

  • 0:46 IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES!

  • I would take an RK-95 over M16/M4 or AK-47 anyday.

  • pants

  • 5.56 does cause significant damage when it hits a human. But when the target is behind a wall, obstacle, etc., the combat effectiveness is reduced. The 7.62 round used by the ak-47 is powerful, but it has a tendency to exit the target before tumbling or yaw. This causes minor injuries. What you need is a bullet like the 6.5 grendel or 6.8. Fast, powerful, and light. But we wouldn't be worrying over this if we didn't have to kill other people as well. War sucks, people die, and people shit their

  • @anthonyli00 minor wound? wow ok

  • Ill take an Ak 47 over the m-16/m4 ANY day.

  • m16 powerful my ass..

  • @LeonOrashi alright man let me shoot you with an m16 and tell me whether or not its powerful. More than likely your not gonna be able to.

  • @LeonOrashi

    the round tumbles and fucks up ur insides when it hits u

    so yeah its powerful

  • 3:05 why does it always show it with the magazine just touching the magwell?

  • Just to get things cleared up: M16A1 = Semi auto/Full auto, M16A2 = Semi auto/Three round burst, M16A3 = Semi auto/Full auto, M16A4 = Semi auto/Three round burst. Any newer versions of the M16 will probably shoot laser beams.

  • @fulerguy

    lol

  • wait i thought m16 was 3 round burst... why is it spraying bullets

  • @littleboyrobert1997

    you've been playing too much call of duty...the m16 is a fully automatic assault rifle, but it does have a three burst round setting.......

    i think you should do some research about the M16 before asking questions.....

  • @helix4811 You're right but.. It not Call of duty, i think its battlefield 2

  • @MrSuicidalidiot ...Really? You actually think the game that he's speaking about is the important difference?

  • @fdsman No,Also theres a version of the m16 wich Fires only in semi or 3 shot bust.

  • @MrSuicidalidiot I can clearly see why idiot is in your name because you are the sole embodiment of what an idiot is. If you didn't mean to correct him on the game then you like to nit pick on moot points. Thank you but I'm already way more educated on firearms than you will probably ever be. I'm fully aware of the existence of the M16A2.

  • Well actually I was right the M-16A4 does not have a fully automatic setting. It is only 3 round burst so that it doesnt over heat or get jammed, maybe you should do the research my friend.

  • @littleboyrobert1997

    i did, but M16A4 is no longer a Semi-Auto rifle, the military found it to be to impractical...

  • @helix4811 ...the M16A4 was NEVER a Semi-auto rifle only. Nor has any M16/M4 only had a semi-auto mode. Do you even know what semi auto means? Because to make a statement like that, you'd either have to be ignorant or just plain dumb.

  • @littleboyrobert1997

    yes that used to be the reason, but ever since they started to use full chrome for the barrel, they decided to switch it back to full auto

  • What they're leaving out is that the 5.56 will only have good killing power if its a hollow tip.

  • @ dxxa94 All modern firearms are rifled.

  • AK-47 Rifled would be better than M16

  • @dxxa94 it would be, except for its flexing barrel

  • 4:57..... i spy with my little eye a m3 "Grease Gun"

  • Lol, all the stories about the M16 that they are talking about in this program are totally opposite to other ones ive seen. "they were astonished by the amazing killing power of the 5.56 round". In other docs they said they would shoot guys over and over and they wouldnt go down. I've fired an AR-15 on a number of occasions. I have to say i do like the 5.56. Its a good accurate round and the low recoil helps you to get back on target very quickly. I do not know about its killing power however.

  • @supernovalogic It's funny I hear the same but when I talks to friends and fellow gun enthusiasts who've come back from combat they have no complaints with stopping power. I think people need to remember a piece of metal ripping through you is gonna FSU no matter the size.

  • @supernovalogic my father severed in Vietnam and told me of how bad the wound is from the m16 and it kills if let untreated not for long

  • 4:28

    i dont think anybody is that fat. soooo the tumbling happens only near the exit wound?

  • @megamen10 but hitting bone and what not will increase tumbling

  • that's ironic that at 2:43 he says the M16 was unreliable, but in the footage it shows a soldier having trouble with his m14

  • Isn't the one on 1:50 an HK M416 ? 

  • @PoppingSanta yeah, but there the same design so it just makes the HK416 a different variant to the M16

  • @mikeyjk1994

    No it's not, the HK416 is an intierly different weapon.

  • @PoppingSanta no it just had low profile sights not a carry handle so you can mound optics and use them as back ups if they fail

  • @PoppingSanta hey hey isnt HK M416 its just HK416

  • this video proves the very issue that the is why the M14 failed and the M16 almost failed in Vietnam. The elite special forces had no problems with the M14 or M16. It was the conscripts who f***ed up. They lacked the discipline to handle M14 recoil and the weight of the ammo so they get the M16 and then they lack the discipline to clean them properly (once the government gets it head out of its ass) and aim them properly.

  • How does residue, mud, sand, or water jam it?

  • @NavySEAL1942 That's A Myth Water, Mud, Sand, Residue Doesn't Bother The Weapon. If It Did Bother The Weapon, The M16 Wouldn't Be In Service Right Now In Fact The Weapon Wouldn't Last 10 Years If It Had Those Problems. One Of These Days I'm Gonna Buy An M16 And Test It's Durability

  • What's did he say at 6:37?

  • @NavySEAL1942 that it didnt fully seat

  • m14 is better than the m16

    'I don't need no teenage queen, I just want my m14!"

  • Let's see you breach a room with an M14.

  • @NavySEAL1942

    Id like to see it with an m16 too. Considering its only a few inches shorter.

    I didn't mean to re-issue it as our standard rifle of choice, I just meant in terms of weapon vs weapon, m14 comes out on top. Yes the m16 has its advantages in urban fighting (not many with its low caliber) but I would never trust my life with an m16 personally.

  • So you never saw any one breach a room with an M16? Um, ok. I did. The M14 is only better because it's a sniper weapon, always more powerful and accurate, so of course it's better, but if everyone in the army had one, would we win a war? No, we wouldn't.

  • 6:14 nice mustache

  • Full auto M16A4! First seen! I thought they never made one.

  • i think the first american advisers in vietnam brought the m14 with them and were sent the m16

  • Leave it to the civilian leadership in the Pentagon to assumed that the M16 was "self-cleaning"! Ugh! Reminds me of the assumptions made by the Rumsfeld-led Pentagon during the Iraq War. :/

  • it all depends on body armor.

    Since terrorists got more sophisticated, their body armore is more effective and lighter, hence the 556 isn't as effective as 40 years ago.

  • You are going to be hard pressed to find a mid sized round that will do well on hard plates.

  • Really? And who reported this ballistic information?

  • When the round hits a person, it tumbles and also breaks into small pieces.

  • and that is why the M4 was made its lighter smaller stronger faster

  • Stronger? Not really. Same round.

  • Why do some people say the round does not tumble anymore cause i just saw it tumble.

  • Same reason why some people just like to ignore small details and run red lights and ruins things for other people

  • they do tumble i have a friend who was in the army and he said they tumble when they hit

  • ya sure u do n i hve a "friend" in the white house

  • why not?

  • @kingdodo34 "why not"?.....wat do u mean by dat?

  • haha..no such thing.

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