Looks good to start with but as a chemical engineer there are several concerns about the design and funcionality of this system ... to check a successful system currently being used by one major vehicle manufacturer IN Australia check out this site by you tube user glknox.... check out the videos under this name glknox11
@STORMCAT06 After testing HHO production myself I came to the conclusion that yes, it takes more energy in the form of electricity (about 2-3 times more) than the energy you get out of the HHO. The way it may be possible to get better fuel mileage (this part not tested by me) is due to how hot hydrogen burns, it helps you burn all the fuel in the engine unlike normal combustion where not all the fuel is burned and some is wasted.
@STORMCAT06 There could be a very interesting answer to that question, assuming this works well. Plenty of people post that it does. If the people who say it does not work are all the people who would never bother to try it then I will go with the people who are using it successfully.
Okay try this, use an accu, make HHO put it in an gasfles or something, make electricity with HHO for the accu, and try to get more electricity afther than before :)
lol - yah we had high school science class (poorly monitored) where a student hooked together a lime/acid hydrogen generator and an oxygen generator and said "Look, I'm gonna make a torch!" just before he blew up a tabletop full of glassware flasks, and tubing. Quit the show. Glad the shields were in place.
hey thats cool. I have 2 questions though, how long before the electrolysis erodes the electrodes? How long will it last before the watter corrodes the plates? Did you use stainless or something?
FAIL EPIC STYLE!! Ultra weak for that many plates. More less just seem to be boiling the water from wasted heat. For this kind of electrolysis you need low voltage & high current. Please people actually learn some math. do some research & maybe even get a passing grade in middle school physics. That is NOT going to power a car engine......
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that many plates that close togather will case the cell to get to hot and the watr to turn to steam and soone the bubbels wont go bang done ben ther long a go every one learnes by trial and ere just rember were we were not that long ago and fore the dumb asses that say thats imposibul there write they didnt learn a god dame thing me im trying to combind solar wind steam hho and others together look and you will see
if this is hydrogen how come you created a spark and nothing happens. Does not make since. with that much bubbles it should have burn or ignight the top of that !!
You are either using high amps, water that is not pure, or a combination of the two. There is nothing special here. Anyone can do this with a battery, two pieces of wire, two spoons, and a glass of tap water from the kitchen. This is standard, amp wasteful electrolysis. The energy you put in is MUCH greater than the hydrogen energy you gain.
Again....Hydrogen alone isn't explosive, it merely burns off quickly. Under different circumstances mixed with different chemicals....sure. But that applies to about anything. Take sugar for example, with enough heat, can create a explosion similar to tnt.
hydrogen alone isn't explosive? what are you talking about? as long as you have pure hydrogen in the presence of a flame (oxygen) you will certainly have an explosion. Don't try to be a chemist. Also, clearly sugar combusts, it's a hydrocarbon. don't post things you don't know.
Of course! This process run in reverse with much better materials and control is called a fuel cell. Hydrogen and oxygen can be fed to either side of a catalyst layer with electrodes on either side for electric current to run through. Hydrogen and oxygen react to produce electricity and water vapor. For further information, research PEM fuel cells.
No, he is using a car battery to power this. think like you're plugging this system into a wall. It costs energy to perform the separation, then you get less energy in return from the combustion. Basic laws of matter
Wow that's a lot of HHO production. There are a couple things that are dangerous:
1. Electricity may possibly arc between the two electrodes (because they aren't insulated by anything other than air) thus igniting the HHO that is in air.
2. Why produce H2 and O2 gases together? The anode and cathode produce different gases. Together, H and O are explosive. Separate, H is merely flammable. You can store the two in separate tanks, but with your anode/cathode device, the gases come out mixed!!
You dont store them seperate because its a more stable burn when they're burned togther. Storing hydrogen and or oxygen for seperate burn takes more energy and is just silly.
@slinkee2k aren't they supposed to come out mixed - isn't that what hho is and is directed into the air-intake? I also just read that so many bubbles as in this video means the water is simply boiling and not creating desired gas - which means those bubbles would not ignite.
@slinkee2k Most people do mixed because they are after an explosion and actually producing the gasses speratly is much less efficient, I tried and it didn't work because the gases were to hard to capture while getting current between electrodes.
@JJINCWorldWide It is very true that distance between electrodes greatly increases resistance, but this can be overcome by using a porous diaphragm to keep the gases separate from each other while still keeping electrodes close.
@slinkee2k its a lot more efficient to produce them together, because of the fact that when the spacing is closer there is less voltage and thus less wasted energy through the water
I have seen many say u loose energy cause it takes more to make it then u get out of it ...WRONG....if u experiment then u see that it works well.I have a HHO system that i made on my car for 6 months and enjoy 50/60 MPG so get use to the fact that power in is less then power out......
you see how he let it rest a few minutes and the water was nearly clear? and how the cover was off of the container he had the water in? it was an open space do some research on parts per million.. not dense enough for an explosion plus the reaction was just starting....c'mon people dont be idiots.
ionize, no shit, i made it at home , the bubles exploded, and there were lessssss alot less, bubles it exploded, but i dont know maby, but less posibal i fink
Round your edges on your plates, you will lose electrical energy as the current will spike off sharp edges, and don't use electrolyte, leave the negative on always, it will drain electrons and create HHO as well as ions/plasma held stable in the water, i doubled my fuel mileage running a negatively charged cell like I just described, I also did anti gravity tests with ions on my cathode, just like monoatomic gold.
I don't understand, what's the point if you can just run your car on electricity. "In November 1881 French inventor Gustave Trouvé demonstrated a working three-wheeled automobile that was powered by electricity."
I will then have the 8 burners running under my hot boiler on my old hot water heating. I think I figured roughly. It will cost 130.00 dollars to run 7 of the cells. If I can get a sustained flame from the 7 orfices. It may heat my water up enough to have it heat my house. Now I know it will run like a torch flame. It may take a month to get the water up to temerature but once I do I think I may be good to go. It's looking like it may happen. I have seen people using it like a torch.
It takes more energy to create hydrogen electrolysis as in this device.
W = PΔV = (101.3 x 103 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10-3 m3/mol)(298K/273K) = 3715 J shows you expend more energy then you can create. Therefore your device actually uses more energy to create Hydrogen and Oxygen then you will get for a return in energy.
Let me ask this drdave. What about the simple formula. amps multiplied by volts gives you your wattage. If you have a 12 volt supply and you are pulling 12 amps you get 144 watts of power consumption. By these numbers it would take 7 of these units running for one hour to consume one killowatt of power. Is this correct? I am going to set up 10 of my cells. Each one using 144 watts of power every hour. I will take that gas and put it into a tank which will feed 8 orfices like a gas burner.
-->>>Which CANNOT be expended--> only increased and decreased as a potential difference or pressure state... With, by the way amperage is @50ma..
here, you simply pulse this attraction and repulsion force and you get.... .... ...HHO with nearly 0 net loses.. study Quantum Physics.. you'd love it... now... Watch those Lectures!!
by running a pulsed current I believe he did the same thing as the Joe cell that I have doubled my fuel mileage on, I believe this drains electrons out the negative creating an ion/plasma energy as well as HHO held stable in the water, i have had 2 battery's go up to 16 volts on me from my cell, i believe this is from electrons draining from my water as it is being ionized.
Interesting to see all of the critical and negative comments from people. I say, good job and keep up the experimenting. Yes, you can hear the engine bog down and the cell is pulling way too many amps. But, this video was posted over one year ago. I'm sure the maker has learned a lot since then. Leave the horrible critical comments out....what I mean is: if you can not say something nice, then keep it to yourself.
If you put a little washing up liquid in the water the hydrogen and oxygen given off can be trapped in large bubbles at just the right ratio to cause impressive explosions.
that's old school electrolysis. try the new frequency pulsing electrolysis which uses up to half an amp and can split water by pulsating at it's resonant frequency. distilled water's resonant frequency is between 130-140hz.
Notice how the engine noise in the background drags down while it is hooked up. Should tell you something about the amount of energy required to produce HHO from water using electrolysis.
Wouldn't that spark created by the cable clamp when he removed it from the bolt after electrolysis had commenced have ignited the hydrogen or oxygen coming out of the container?
It maybe could, but the hydrogen is so light that it flies upwards at about 100 miles an hour. I wouldn't get a spark anywhere near an outlet tube though.
i thought the spark would do like the video called hho explosion did...kapow! or the video i saw the guy scooped up the bubbles in the mouth of a small funnel and lit it with a lighter it went kapow! i guess in open air it needs a butane flame to go kapow....please try turning off the power supply so you wont get 3rd degree flash burns and ear drum damage
electricity, applied to water with two electrodes will always induce electrolysis, resulting in hydrogen and oxygen bubbles. One element for each electrode. You can do it in your kitchen with two small 9v batteries in series.
Good lord...Do you have tremors or what? Ever hear of a tripod? That was as shaky as all the UFO videos I have seen, and the concept behind HHO is just as unbelievable.
I wonder what happens if you drink with a straw from that container at the same time electrolisis is taking place. LOL Do u get shocked in your tongue? or what?
No, the fumes are for the most part safe unless you're holding a lighter next to it, just be careful handling the electrolyte after running electrolysis. A pair of rubber or latex gloves, and proper disposal is key.
1. Looks like some serious BS to me since as 2br2br had noticed there is no BOOM with such a high output immediate area must be saturated with explosive HHO.
2. OK. It appearently makes tons of gas BUT in expense of some 30-40amps (cold?) at 12V (these huge sparks speak for themselves). At such a great power input most kind of cells would produce as much HHO.
I have HHO system ready to go into my car just a couple of leaks to deal with glue drying and rdy to hit the road :) Cheers
yes since I am only a 1974 high school graduate that watched the Stan Meyers videos. I wanted to make a point that if a goon like me can build a HHO devise that goes about 5 miles before the water boils why cant MIT Engineers like you come up with a system that can totally take the place of gas.... with
water.
Maybe one of you enlightened Brainiacks can supply the pulse electronics available over the net so I can prove once and for all that this design is the real thing and not BS
Hear the vehicle he's using to power that thing? It idles WAY down when he hooks it up because it's drawing a shitload of power. Bet that alternator wont last ;)
The best of all is electricity can be made with clean sources such as wind and water power :D Also whats the spacings on that fuel cell? Having them smaller works better and more efficient.
If he had large amount contained then a spark, yes it would be dangerous, but the amounts in the bubbles is not enough to make a major explosion, the fumes are diluted in the air, he would need to fill the basement to have major explosion.
Make sure the stainless steel is 100% Stainless, if not then it will show some rust. Because some stainless steel have only so much percentage of stainless in it.
Nicely done on the plates. If you don't want to add anything else to your power supply. Listen to the voice of experience and connect the battery end of your cables last. That way the sparks you make making the connection will be by the battery and not near the hho production. Great job on the video.
To solve the heat management issue, use a bigger body of water and smaller, more efficient cells, less plates with more surface area. A PWM will 'shake' the bubbles loose and lower power consumption.
When burning all this hydrogen in cars etc. has anyone thought of what will happen when hydrogen runs out?? Will the earth one day be as dry as a rock but have an intact ozone layer?? how is hydrogen renewable? where does it come from? will it run out?
If you could in fact run a car completely on hydrogen, then the battery would store the energy you need to start production, and the vehicle, therefore the alternator would turn, and take over the production... that's how.
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U really are an absolute idiot aren't u? Re-read what I said and realise what everyone else knows, ur an idiot.
Let me help u a little
3rd Paragraph "How will solar energy produce hydrogen? it will produce the electrical current for electrolosis but I said EXCEPTING water"
So u still have not grasped that I KNOW the sun can create electricity and that electricity is used in electrolysis to split H2O in to Hydrogen. Im asking if you know of and ALTERNATIVE to water/fossil fuel, D*mb*ss
The process of combustion recombines the hydrogen and oxygen making water vapor. That is why it is called a renewable energy source. That water could be collected and reintroduced to the process over and over again.
wow cool! My cell is 1/10th that size, see the action on it at "HHo ecogreen". It runs a 350 chev. suburban. See it now! I have to control it down when it gets heated...it becomes alive !
t-304 is the good stuff, its use is to fasten the bolts on airplanes. But i meant the material for your spacers. Also wouldn't baking soda or lye boost the production?
t-304 is the good stuff, its use is to fasten the bolts on airplanes. But i meant the material for your spacers. Also wouldn't baking soda or lye boost the production?
Believe it or not I use 3 ea. 8 mil. wide plastic NON Metalic sequins. I have to punch a 1/4 hole in them but they are cheap and work great.
Concerning additives in the water:
Yes you will get more production for a period of time. I have found that we need to keep the water at or below 100 degrees F. any thing above that and the hydrogen is degradated.
Any additive in the water besides white vinger is TOXIC WASTE.
Well thats going to be hard to accomplish along with unfreezing the water during the winter. But with rising gas prices I will do my best to configure something. Gas here is $3.56 reg.
Damn,again?The Zepp. would have birned & crashed EVEN with an INERT gas,proven and FACT.2 people died from burns,the rest impact,the fire was caused by an electrostatic nature igniting not hydrogen,but the aluminum powder coated varnish across the fabric of the exterior skin.This was found not only by the Germans but also the U.S.most recently identical tests performed by Dr.Addison Bain of NASA.Diesel was aboard the ship(heavier than air)and the "H" rapidly escaped upward,14xlighter/air see vid
Did I say h2 was INERT?NO! I know my chemistry well in this,better than most'experts' as well as petrol chemistry,challenge me if you wish,watch the video of the Zepp carefully.Yes,h2 burned and most all can visibly be seen escaping as it will,UP and away,and was likely the last to burn.Unlike the Diesel tht powered the twin massive engines,which lingers being heavier than air.Most all the survivors did not jump.Most the deaths were from jumpers from high alt.h2 fires do not stay.out of type-spc
Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. No doubt that the units out there are producing hho gas, but whether they produce enough to cause a flash back that is caused by engine ignition is debatable, I believe the engine burns the gas as fast as it is making it. The ownly danger is lighting a tank manually that has direct connection with the generator. That would be just plain stupid! Myth busters came pretty close to that reality with a full tank of hydrogen. They got lucky!
Yes,especially considering our SHIT engines that people think are so efficient.25% on your best day giving it credit.The Mel Vaux,based on Russell Bourke engine is a far better use of mechanical energy.People don't realize the conrod,crank regime was designed for steam/like atmosphere.When the petrol guys wanted to make it profitable,they simply wanted to get it to burn,simply,instead of designing an engine based on that fuel.Much like the Wankel eng.Prpane works great with one,diesel was avail.
Neither make any difference if the spacing of the anode(s) and cathode(s) are wrong. Adding electrolyte is pointless as tap water already contains alkalis of various kinds, enough to create a good condition for electrolysis. Medium-High (12-24vdc) voltage and electrolyte is a silly mix. The heat generated is ridiculous. Let the natural dielectric breakdown of just tap water in an electrostatic field do the work. Regulate voltage, reduce and regulate current, more surface area!!!
A fellow on here called ZeroFossilFuel has put together what I think is the definitive series of videos on how to measure you output against input. To gauge the efficiency of your design, you will want to figure how many liters per minute against the watts consumed.
I think you are right - the missing element of all these designs which might just be the Meyer secret is resonance. 500pF at 1Mhz with 55uH in parallel would be my starting point. After reaction starts, diaelectric should become (air) and thing will drift into resonance - maybe ??
For a setup like yours, the biggest problem will be generating the amps the gizmo wants and getting rid of the heat the device will produce. You may end up having to consider some sort of radiator to dump excess heat but this is certainly do-able. You are producing HUGE amount of gas. Great job !!! But PLEASE study safety protocols !!! Dont want to loose you to an acident ...
be carefull with those sparks near the gas !!! get a switch and maybe a relay !!! the volume of gas you are producing could be quite dangerous !!! my ears are still ringing from an incident three months ago when I was doing very much same as what you are doing ... spark too close to much gas make BIG boom ...
Gagekko: the unit is conected to the motor so we know hes only pulling 12v, i am curious of how many amps and temperature over time; but production wise for a 1st demo i think is great.
Looks good to start with but as a chemical engineer there are several concerns about the design and funcionality of this system ... to check a successful system currently being used by one major vehicle manufacturer IN Australia check out this site by you tube user glknox.... check out the videos under this name glknox11
glknox11 6 months ago
i like ur video sir its somewhat similar to my cell and mine is alot smaller... you will like check it out
BadRick951 8 months ago
nice one!
nice design!!!!!! wanna copy it!!
foxnad 9 months ago
@STORMCAT06 After testing HHO production myself I came to the conclusion that yes, it takes more energy in the form of electricity (about 2-3 times more) than the energy you get out of the HHO. The way it may be possible to get better fuel mileage (this part not tested by me) is due to how hot hydrogen burns, it helps you burn all the fuel in the engine unlike normal combustion where not all the fuel is burned and some is wasted.
filear 9 months ago
Lol of it sparked later then you would be dead by now
pcblah 10 months ago
the sparks from the jumper cables made it seem like you were a mad scientist
themodmancarl 1 year ago
@STORMCAT06 There could be a very interesting answer to that question, assuming this works well. Plenty of people post that it does. If the people who say it does not work are all the people who would never bother to try it then I will go with the people who are using it successfully.
RavenPrecept 1 year ago
the more plates you have more hho?
kevbow0137 1 year ago
Okay try this, use an accu, make HHO put it in an gasfles or something, make electricity with HHO for the accu, and try to get more electricity afther than before :)
knowmaster 1 year ago
ur powned
szuszi2 1 year ago
lol - yah we had high school science class (poorly monitored) where a student hooked together a lime/acid hydrogen generator and an oxygen generator and said "Look, I'm gonna make a torch!" just before he blew up a tabletop full of glassware flasks, and tubing. Quit the show. Glad the shields were in place.
johnclord 1 year ago
Now all you have to do is get 2/3 of the volume of bobbles to be at least 5% of the air going into the engine at all RPMs. That is the tricky part.
That 350 V8 will only require about 100 liters of HHO per minute at cruising speed.
So good luck, your going to need it.
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atelierpenguin 1 year ago
hey thats cool. I have 2 questions though, how long before the electrolysis erodes the electrodes? How long will it last before the watter corrodes the plates? Did you use stainless or something?
impavitus 1 year ago
FAIL EPIC STYLE!! Ultra weak for that many plates. More less just seem to be boiling the water from wasted heat. For this kind of electrolysis you need low voltage & high current. Please people actually learn some math. do some research & maybe even get a passing grade in middle school physics. That is NOT going to power a car engine......
shinerunner01 1 year ago
why do you morons have to make everything religious?
2 square pieces of metal turned is not an fing jewish star its 2 pieces of metal.
if god were so damn great we wouldnt need hho would we
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henrykay01 1 year ago
that many plates that close togather will case the cell to get to hot and the watr to turn to steam and soone the bubbels wont go bang done ben ther long a go every one learnes by trial and ere just rember were we were not that long ago and fore the dumb asses that say thats imposibul there write they didnt learn a god dame thing me im trying to combind solar wind steam hho and others together look and you will see
zuseable 1 year ago
if this is hydrogen how come you created a spark and nothing happens. Does not make since. with that much bubbles it should have burn or ignight the top of that !!
Sexton1123 1 year ago
You are either using high amps, water that is not pure, or a combination of the two. There is nothing special here. Anyone can do this with a battery, two pieces of wire, two spoons, and a glass of tap water from the kitchen. This is standard, amp wasteful electrolysis. The energy you put in is MUCH greater than the hydrogen energy you gain.
tonsostuff 2 years ago
Again....Hydrogen alone isn't explosive, it merely burns off quickly. Under different circumstances mixed with different chemicals....sure. But that applies to about anything. Take sugar for example, with enough heat, can create a explosion similar to tnt.
wildbill6976 2 years ago
hydrogen alone isn't explosive? what are you talking about? as long as you have pure hydrogen in the presence of a flame (oxygen) you will certainly have an explosion. Don't try to be a chemist. Also, clearly sugar combusts, it's a hydrocarbon. don't post things you don't know.
westlemania10 2 years ago
Hats Off To You. Your project isawsome
Farzan36 2 years ago
for maximum HHO production, try adding a catalyst such as KOH. What it does is allows electric current to flow through the water more easily.
TheNuclearWatermelon 2 years ago
I'm curious. Could this produce electricty for your home? If so, how would you do it?
speedlearner 2 years ago
it could by burning the gas to heat water into steam to drive a generator but since the reaction is driven by electricity, it would just waste energy
ski4kil 2 years ago
Of course! This process run in reverse with much better materials and control is called a fuel cell. Hydrogen and oxygen can be fed to either side of a catalyst layer with electrodes on either side for electric current to run through. Hydrogen and oxygen react to produce electricity and water vapor. For further information, research PEM fuel cells.
choppergoose 2 years ago
No, he is using a car battery to power this. think like you're plugging this system into a wall. It costs energy to perform the separation, then you get less energy in return from the combustion. Basic laws of matter
westlemania10 2 years ago
what kind of electrolyt do you put in the water?
11to 2 years ago
can you light it on fire?
analyzingfunny 2 years ago
Tego typu konstrukcja powinna leżeć na płasko a nie pionowo...
Chomalek 2 years ago
Too many people think of the Hindenburg. What most people don't realize is that regular gasoline is more explosive than hydrogen...
wildbill6976 2 years ago
lol. you speak quite well from your ass. go check your figures, dawg. hydrogen is 200,000 X more explosive at SATP.
valdezmiguel2 2 years ago
why does everyone that makes these HHO videos SUCK at keeping the camera still...motion sickness...jesus!
nobrizzle 2 years ago
that could run a lawnmower no prob
30GB 2 years ago
Wow that's a lot of HHO production. There are a couple things that are dangerous:
1. Electricity may possibly arc between the two electrodes (because they aren't insulated by anything other than air) thus igniting the HHO that is in air.
2. Why produce H2 and O2 gases together? The anode and cathode produce different gases. Together, H and O are explosive. Separate, H is merely flammable. You can store the two in separate tanks, but with your anode/cathode device, the gases come out mixed!!
Thx
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roadrunner2600 2 years ago
You dont store them seperate because its a more stable burn when they're burned togther. Storing hydrogen and or oxygen for seperate burn takes more energy and is just silly.
FLABERGAG 2 years ago
Far be it from me to try to stop you from blowing yourself up.
slinkee2k 2 years ago
@slinkee2k aren't they supposed to come out mixed - isn't that what hho is and is directed into the air-intake? I also just read that so many bubbles as in this video means the water is simply boiling and not creating desired gas - which means those bubbles would not ignite.
offyam 1 year ago
@slinkee2k Most people do mixed because they are after an explosion and actually producing the gasses speratly is much less efficient, I tried and it didn't work because the gases were to hard to capture while getting current between electrodes.
JJINCWorldWide 11 months ago
@JJINCWorldWide It is very true that distance between electrodes greatly increases resistance, but this can be overcome by using a porous diaphragm to keep the gases separate from each other while still keeping electrodes close.
acwrobel1 10 months ago
@slinkee2k its a lot more efficient to produce them together, because of the fact that when the spacing is closer there is less voltage and thus less wasted energy through the water
matthew1198765 9 months ago
I have seen many say u loose energy cause it takes more to make it then u get out of it ...WRONG....if u experiment then u see that it works well.I have a HHO system that i made on my car for 6 months and enjoy 50/60 MPG so get use to the fact that power in is less then power out......
shadowlacer 2 years ago
you see how he let it rest a few minutes and the water was nearly clear? and how the cover was off of the container he had the water in? it was an open space do some research on parts per million.. not dense enough for an explosion plus the reaction was just starting....c'mon people dont be idiots.
Chewylu103 2 years ago
ionize, no shit, i made it at home , the bubles exploded, and there were lessssss alot less, bubles it exploded, but i dont know maby, but less posibal i fink
administratorius1 2 years ago
Round your edges on your plates, you will lose electrical energy as the current will spike off sharp edges, and don't use electrolyte, leave the negative on always, it will drain electrons and create HHO as well as ions/plasma held stable in the water, i doubled my fuel mileage running a negatively charged cell like I just described, I also did anti gravity tests with ions on my cathode, just like monoatomic gold.
Great work.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Thast's not HHO dude! with that spark over the gas, the entire hood would have blowed up!
pistero666 2 years ago
I don't understand, what's the point if you can just run your car on electricity. "In November 1881 French inventor Gustave Trouvé demonstrated a working three-wheeled automobile that was powered by electricity."
spektrum1983 2 years ago
i dont belyve, u all see the spark? it should have exploded
administratorius1 2 years ago
It was probably a fresh mixture, it takes a bit of time for the bubbles to be ionized enough to be lightable.
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Mega Joules per liter.
Gasoline 34.2
Gaseous Hydrogen at room temperature 0.01079
HHO, two parts H one part O so divide 0.01079 by 3 x 2 = energy density 0.00719 Mega Joules per liter at room temp.
Raise temp to typical HHO cell temp 185 F (60 amps input) gas expands 21.76 percent.
0.00719 divided by 121.76 x 100 energy density now 0.00590 Mega Joules per liter.
34.2 Mega Joules divided by 0.00590, ratio of 5,796.6 to one. One gallon of gasoline = 5,796.6 gallons of HHO.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
Using sunlight or wind to produce energy then feeding you electrolysis .
Good job
Wish you the best.
Free energy for All.
SlickManChoux 2 years ago
amazing !
ToeInspector 2 years ago
that is a lot of plates
thegreatkoua 2 years ago
I will then have the 8 burners running under my hot boiler on my old hot water heating. I think I figured roughly. It will cost 130.00 dollars to run 7 of the cells. If I can get a sustained flame from the 7 orfices. It may heat my water up enough to have it heat my house. Now I know it will run like a torch flame. It may take a month to get the water up to temerature but once I do I think I may be good to go. It's looking like it may happen. I have seen people using it like a torch.
californiaquack 3 years ago
im not sure about drdaves caculations below my comment, but i know this caculation....
HHO+Sparks=Explosion (greater than, or equal to)
midniight 3 years ago
It takes more energy to create hydrogen electrolysis as in this device.
W = PΔV = (101.3 x 103 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10-3 m3/mol)(298K/273K) = 3715 J shows you expend more energy then you can create. Therefore your device actually uses more energy to create Hydrogen and Oxygen then you will get for a return in energy.
drdave771 3 years ago 3
Let me ask this drdave. What about the simple formula. amps multiplied by volts gives you your wattage. If you have a 12 volt supply and you are pulling 12 amps you get 144 watts of power consumption. By these numbers it would take 7 of these units running for one hour to consume one killowatt of power. Is this correct? I am going to set up 10 of my cells. Each one using 144 watts of power every hour. I will take that gas and put it into a tank which will feed 8 orfices like a gas burner.
californiaquack 3 years ago
Wrong.. Dude, Watch Stan Meyer's Lectures..
He used a high "Potential Energy Force(Voltage)-
-->>>Which CANNOT be expended--> only increased and decreased as a potential difference or pressure state... With, by the way amperage is @50ma..
here, you simply pulse this attraction and repulsion force and you get.... .... ...HHO with nearly 0 net loses.. study Quantum Physics.. you'd love it... now... Watch those Lectures!!
MajorUtah...OUT... *Xy;
MajorUtah 2 years ago
by running a pulsed current I believe he did the same thing as the Joe cell that I have doubled my fuel mileage on, I believe this drains electrons out the negative creating an ion/plasma energy as well as HHO held stable in the water, i have had 2 battery's go up to 16 volts on me from my cell, i believe this is from electrons draining from my water as it is being ionized.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Interesting to see all of the critical and negative comments from people. I say, good job and keep up the experimenting. Yes, you can hear the engine bog down and the cell is pulling way too many amps. But, this video was posted over one year ago. I'm sure the maker has learned a lot since then. Leave the horrible critical comments out....what I mean is: if you can not say something nice, then keep it to yourself.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
it's about making hydrogen bubbles, not water vapor bubbles. I didn't hear the "bang" when you made those nice sparks on the cell electrode
lvildos 3 years ago
Search "aardvark hho challenge" in google. If this works there is 1 million dollar award to collect....
cselmore22 3 years ago
If you put a little washing up liquid in the water the hydrogen and oxygen given off can be trapped in large bubbles at just the right ratio to cause impressive explosions.
ColinWatters 3 years ago
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5 4 3 2 1 hey shut the power off !! If your still alive.
yourfirstmate 3 years ago
how many amps did it take to make this amount of hho? a car alt. can only run at 85 to 100 % for so long befor it burns up would like to know !!!
nbmr 3 years ago
that's old school electrolysis. try the new frequency pulsing electrolysis which uses up to half an amp and can split water by pulsating at it's resonant frequency. distilled water's resonant frequency is between 130-140hz.
bcoulal 3 years ago
You're awesome, bcoulal
PhuqueU 3 years ago
Congratulations, you invented electrolysis.
TaintedMojo 3 years ago
Curious as to why the spark did not ignite the gases when he removed the cable clamp?
PhuqueU 3 years ago
Its only a matter of time before you blow yourself up removing clips with the power turned on.
msw1000 3 years ago 25
thats what i was thinking
d3115uxor 3 years ago 2
@msw1000 i think he's outside. ie in a garage. how long would it take to fill the opened garage with enough gas to cause an explosion?
thanks
nil0bject 7 months ago
ditto
AngellXP 3 years ago
Notice how the engine noise in the background drags down while it is hooked up. Should tell you something about the amount of energy required to produce HHO from water using electrolysis.
brucerh80 3 years ago
Wouldn't that spark created by the cable clamp when he removed it from the bolt after electrolysis had commenced have ignited the hydrogen or oxygen coming out of the container?
PlayTilTheyBleed 3 years ago
The gas is not under compression, but if he was using a bubbler he could tgnite the bubbles with a small torch, sounds like pop-corn.
WaterPowerSystems 3 years ago
It maybe could, but the hydrogen is so light that it flies upwards at about 100 miles an hour. I wouldn't get a spark anywhere near an outlet tube though.
HHO2Burn 3 years ago
That cell looks wicked i want one like it
WiiGamester187 3 years ago
Hexavalent chromium
samking12 3 years ago
What in the world are you doing?
No gloves, direct electrical connections?
Yes, OK your spliting water but not very safe with your process! What is your mix?
I would hope it's baking soda other that your asking for trouble!!
MikPil 3 years ago
i thought the spark would do like the video called hho explosion did...kapow! or the video i saw the guy scooped up the bubbles in the mouth of a small funnel and lit it with a lighter it went kapow! i guess in open air it needs a butane flame to go kapow....please try turning off the power supply so you wont get 3rd degree flash burns and ear drum damage
john29302 3 years ago
thats a bit dangerous with all the spillage and open container.
saborguerito 3 years ago
are you sure that is H you are producing and not just boiling the water?
MattBlytheTheOne 3 years ago
electricity, applied to water with two electrodes will always induce electrolysis, resulting in hydrogen and oxygen bubbles. One element for each electrode. You can do it in your kitchen with two small 9v batteries in series.
surrealdirector 3 years ago
hi, I appreciate that! I was just thinking maybe the heat the electrodes were emitting were boiling the water.
MattBlytheTheOne 3 years ago
Good lord...Do you have tremors or what? Ever hear of a tripod? That was as shaky as all the UFO videos I have seen, and the concept behind HHO is just as unbelievable.
But hey, keep up the good work.
MyRant 3 years ago
Giday. Good video. Are you getting a lot of heat?
vespacurry 3 years ago
I wonder what happens if you drink with a straw from that container at the same time electrolisis is taking place. LOL Do u get shocked in your tongue? or what?
agent7vm 3 years ago
You most likely will go blind... running electrolysis turns the electrolyte into hexavalent chromium, which causes blindness, sterility, and death.
denton3737 3 years ago
4 real?? running electrolysis is it from the fumes?
samking12 3 years ago
No, the fumes are for the most part safe unless you're holding a lighter next to it, just be careful handling the electrolyte after running electrolysis. A pair of rubber or latex gloves, and proper disposal is key.
denton3737 3 years ago
Lol everyone is trying to get as much surface as they can this guy found the most efficient way how to get rid of it :)
minde4000 3 years ago
be careful with thoose sparks
DXcrashtesters 3 years ago
1. Looks like some serious BS to me since as 2br2br had noticed there is no BOOM with such a high output immediate area must be saturated with explosive HHO.
2. OK. It appearently makes tons of gas BUT in expense of some 30-40amps (cold?) at 12V (these huge sparks speak for themselves). At such a great power input most kind of cells would produce as much HHO.
I have HHO system ready to go into my car just a couple of leaks to deal with glue drying and rdy to hit the road :) Cheers
minde4000 3 years ago
ya on top of that it will heat up so fast and boil the water and fry stuff at 60 amps hot:))
Vistal1 3 years ago
yes since I am only a 1974 high school graduate that watched the Stan Meyers videos. I wanted to make a point that if a goon like me can build a HHO devise that goes about 5 miles before the water boils why cant MIT Engineers like you come up with a system that can totally take the place of gas.... with
water.
Maybe one of you enlightened Brainiacks can supply the pulse electronics available over the net so I can prove once and for all that this design is the real thing and not BS
JOINtheARMYofGOD 3 years ago
you can buy the pulse generator, or can build one
koibito25 3 years ago
Right on tho =]
minde4000 3 years ago
you need to submerse your conections.
tbgallien 3 years ago
What configuration is that? (n + - n n etc)
wh333t 3 years ago
Water splitter reactor.
TommeyLeeReed 3 years ago
Hear the vehicle he's using to power that thing? It idles WAY down when he hooks it up because it's drawing a shitload of power. Bet that alternator wont last ;)
nismotunedgtr 3 years ago
Alternator cheaper than fuel? lol.
wh333t 3 years ago
Great bubbles ,
However, when you spark the contacts...
no boom !
Are you sure thats HHO?
If you sparked my cells pumping like that..
you'd be missing a arm !
Thanks.
2br2br2 3 years ago
does it release H2 and 02 as the gasses and if so then is called a hydrogen generator or should it be called hydrogen and oxygen generator
atnekn 3 years ago
thats why we call it an HHO generator lol
JBTYpr 3 years ago
The best of all is electricity can be made with clean sources such as wind and water power :D Also whats the spacings on that fuel cell? Having them smaller works better and more efficient.
Triple88a 3 years ago
Man you are going to kill yourself. HHO + Sparks = BOOM
ultio1 3 years ago
If he had large amount contained then a spark, yes it would be dangerous, but the amounts in the bubbles is not enough to make a major explosion, the fumes are diluted in the air, he would need to fill the basement to have major explosion.
jedirock 3 years ago
how much dc and current it draw to produce this much of hho gas? pls tell me. tnx
shiba72 3 years ago
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2br2br2 3 years ago
this is great im sooo stoned
and holy fuck good work man
420bmxer 3 years ago
Thank you,
Great video!
Guess where you're arab/oil fuel dollars are going?
The correct answer is "Terrorism".
Isn't that lovely?...we're paying the terrorist to destroy us!
Even worse than that... most people you mention this to just shrug their shoulders and say " ..yeah..that sucks...!"
The fuel cost is why I run HHO in my vehicles...but the benifit of cutting a chunk out of the oil terrorist gives me the greater pleasure!
Keep up the good work!
2br2br2 3 years ago
yeah man!!! stop the supply to arab bigheads!!
shiba72 3 years ago
FFS the US government is the biggest terrorist of all. Get a clue mate.
zforce69 3 years ago
Make sure the stainless steel is 100% Stainless, if not then it will show some rust. Because some stainless steel have only so much percentage of stainless in it.
kouavue 3 years ago
Wow, where's my dramamine.........
canamm 3 years ago
Wow. That really is quite impressive.
johnnyd83 3 years ago
Nicely done on the plates. If you don't want to add anything else to your power supply. Listen to the voice of experience and connect the battery end of your cables last. That way the sparks you make making the connection will be by the battery and not near the hho production. Great job on the video.
shadowdo 3 years ago
To solve the heat management issue, use a bigger body of water and smaller, more efficient cells, less plates with more surface area. A PWM will 'shake' the bubbles loose and lower power consumption.
When burning all this hydrogen in cars etc. has anyone thought of what will happen when hydrogen runs out?? Will the earth one day be as dry as a rock but have an intact ozone layer?? how is hydrogen renewable? where does it come from? will it run out?
Long term effect needs to be considered
Toonie74 3 years ago
hopefully ill be dead when that happens
scottwstew 3 years ago
for your information, we will not run out of hidrogen. d*mb *ss :P
acongsk 3 years ago
How so?
Would you like to explain how hydrogen will be produced once there are no fossil fuels left? excepting water of course!
Now prove your not the d*mb*ss by backing up your theory with fact
Toonie74 3 years ago
If you could in fact run a car completely on hydrogen, then the battery would store the energy you need to start production, and the vehicle, therefore the alternator would turn, and take over the production... that's how.
denton3737 3 years ago
yeah i get that denton, u missed my point, but thanks for trying
Toonie74 3 years ago
dear d*mb*ss,
without fossil fuel, we still can generate H2 by using alternative energy such as solar power panel, hydrogenerator, etc..
y dun u go back to school?
acongsk 3 years ago
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d*mb*ss, u can get H2 by utilizing solar power to produce power to do the electrolysis....
go back to school......
acongsk 3 years ago
your right, can you be less mean though? it's very unpleasant
djbro16 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
U really are an absolute idiot aren't u? Re-read what I said and realise what everyone else knows, ur an idiot.
Let me help u a little
3rd Paragraph "How will solar energy produce hydrogen? it will produce the electrical current for electrolosis but I said EXCEPTING water"
So u still have not grasped that I KNOW the sun can create electricity and that electricity is used in electrolysis to split H2O in to Hydrogen. Im asking if you know of and ALTERNATIVE to water/fossil fuel, D*mb*ss
Toonie74 3 years ago
ops... my apology.... :)
acongsk 3 years ago
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hmmm you claim to be intelligent and know all there is to know, but provide no arguement to prove your point! Don't just say it is so, explain why!
And until you learn to spell HYDROGEN no one is going to take you seriously.
How will solar energy produce hydrogen? it will produce the electrical current for electrolosis but I said EXCEPTING water.
Still waiting for you to produce some facts D*mb*ss
Toonie74 3 years ago
okok...! 'EXCEPTING water'
acongsk 3 years ago
toonie74 burning anything requires oxygen. when you burn hydrogen it must use oxygen to burn therefore water is produced. long term effect resolved
ApEkV2 3 years ago
thanks man,
I was thinking of combustion as a destructive process, but on a chemical level it makes sense.
Thanks for that
Toonie74 3 years ago
The process of combustion recombines the hydrogen and oxygen making water vapor. That is why it is called a renewable energy source. That water could be collected and reintroduced to the process over and over again.
Yodamaker1 3 years ago
Drrr
Darkfoster22 3 years ago
You are making a sparking connection over a flamable gas? Are you nuts?
hammaann 3 years ago
he is, but at this size it's not that dangerous
the worst that could happen when it ignites is that there is a loud bang.
from experience i don't believe that the tank would burst or there will be any water splashing over the power source.
alwinovich 3 years ago
wow cool! My cell is 1/10th that size, see the action on it at "HHo ecogreen". It runs a 350 chev. suburban. See it now! I have to control it down when it gets heated...it becomes alive !
2br2br2 3 years ago
lol Only need 1,000,000 times more gas there to get that 350 running off it.
Darkfoster22 3 years ago
I put my washers .011 apart. Got great rpoduction. You will get better Production on your side.
Stay safe.
h2otohydrogen 4 years ago
What material are your washers?
mikeyidh 3 years ago
304 SS and they work well. Just tap water
h2otohydrogen 3 years ago
t-304 is the good stuff, its use is to fasten the bolts on airplanes. But i meant the material for your spacers. Also wouldn't baking soda or lye boost the production?
mikeyidh 3 years ago
t-304 is the good stuff, its use is to fasten the bolts on airplanes. But i meant the material for your spacers. Also wouldn't baking soda or lye boost the production?
mikeyidh 3 years ago
Believe it or not I use 3 ea. 8 mil. wide plastic NON Metalic sequins. I have to punch a 1/4 hole in them but they are cheap and work great.
Concerning additives in the water:
Yes you will get more production for a period of time. I have found that we need to keep the water at or below 100 degrees F. any thing above that and the hydrogen is degradated.
Any additive in the water besides white vinger is TOXIC WASTE.
h2otohydrogen 3 years ago
Well thats going to be hard to accomplish along with unfreezing the water during the winter. But with rising gas prices I will do my best to configure something. Gas here is $3.56 reg.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
Be careful with those clips, sparks could ignite hydrogen! remember zeppelin!
LeoDJ1992 4 years ago
Damn,again?The Zepp. would have birned & crashed EVEN with an INERT gas,proven and FACT.2 people died from burns,the rest impact,the fire was caused by an electrostatic nature igniting not hydrogen,but the aluminum powder coated varnish across the fabric of the exterior skin.This was found not only by the Germans but also the U.S.most recently identical tests performed by Dr.Addison Bain of NASA.Diesel was aboard the ship(heavier than air)and the "H" rapidly escaped upward,14xlighter/air see vid
FullspeedorNothin 3 years ago
So you are saying hydrogen is an inert gas? where did you learn chemistry? People+arts?
LeoDJ1992 3 years ago
Did I say h2 was INERT?NO! I know my chemistry well in this,better than most'experts' as well as petrol chemistry,challenge me if you wish,watch the video of the Zepp carefully.Yes,h2 burned and most all can visibly be seen escaping as it will,UP and away,and was likely the last to burn.Unlike the Diesel tht powered the twin massive engines,which lingers being heavier than air.Most all the survivors did not jump.Most the deaths were from jumpers from high alt.h2 fires do not stay.out of type-spc
FullspeedorNothin 3 years ago
Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. No doubt that the units out there are producing hho gas, but whether they produce enough to cause a flash back that is caused by engine ignition is debatable, I believe the engine burns the gas as fast as it is making it. The ownly danger is lighting a tank manually that has direct connection with the generator. That would be just plain stupid! Myth busters came pretty close to that reality with a full tank of hydrogen. They got lucky!
hydrogenassist 3 years ago
Yes,especially considering our SHIT engines that people think are so efficient.25% on your best day giving it credit.The Mel Vaux,based on Russell Bourke engine is a far better use of mechanical energy.People don't realize the conrod,crank regime was designed for steam/like atmosphere.When the petrol guys wanted to make it profitable,they simply wanted to get it to burn,simply,instead of designing an engine based on that fuel.Much like the Wankel eng.Prpane works great with one,diesel was avail.
FullspeedorNothin 3 years ago
when you add and remove the power-quite a spark-be careful as with all that HHO-a spark could ignite it and that would not be good
surproster 4 years ago
can someone tell me weather it is voltage, or amperage that creates more hydrogen2...
crazeydavey1 4 years ago
amperage.
therockstar17 3 years ago
amps and what you add to your electrolyte will make a big difference.
sm0ky40 3 years ago
Neither make any difference if the spacing of the anode(s) and cathode(s) are wrong. Adding electrolyte is pointless as tap water already contains alkalis of various kinds, enough to create a good condition for electrolysis. Medium-High (12-24vdc) voltage and electrolyte is a silly mix. The heat generated is ridiculous. Let the natural dielectric breakdown of just tap water in an electrostatic field do the work. Regulate voltage, reduce and regulate current, more surface area!!!
neoartifact 3 years ago
yeah! with HHO in quantity like that you need to be carefull!
jeremusic 4 years ago
Great work.
i would seriously consider a relay and switch instead of jumper leads.
You may not get an explosion with an open container but if the gas has a chance to build up, it won't be pretty. I know....
Use press on lids and not screw top...
We need all our experimenters safe and healthy...
One of us will find the key...
gregted1 4 years ago
If anyone need to know...
- if you can dissociate 1 kg of water using less than 4.4 kWh of electricity, then and only then, you are efficient.
Good luck.
DeeLiria 4 years ago
good vid mate praise god
windsurf2228 4 years ago
I wonder why the sparks didn't ignite it.
davidchenard 4 years ago
Build six more of this cell and connect all seven in series and you will have serious output!(Connected it to your car)
bornman88 4 years ago
Nice output, but you will find that you are generating a lot of heat with your setup! ( single cell)
The reason is that 2 volts is produceing the gas and the remaining volts(11 to 12 volts in case of a car battery) generate heat
bornman88 4 years ago
A fellow on here called ZeroFossilFuel has put together what I think is the definitive series of videos on how to measure you output against input. To gauge the efficiency of your design, you will want to figure how many liters per minute against the watts consumed.
SmartScarecrow 4 years ago
Everything SmartScarecrow says is exactly correct.
However, I really like this parallel plate design for its simplicity. I may use it for experimenting with HV RF cell resonance.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
I think you are right - the missing element of all these designs which might just be the Meyer secret is resonance. 500pF at 1Mhz with 55uH in parallel would be my starting point. After reaction starts, diaelectric should become (air) and thing will drift into resonance - maybe ??
furzeham 4 years ago
For a setup like yours, the biggest problem will be generating the amps the gizmo wants and getting rid of the heat the device will produce. You may end up having to consider some sort of radiator to dump excess heat but this is certainly do-able. You are producing HUGE amount of gas. Great job !!! But PLEASE study safety protocols !!! Dont want to loose you to an acident ...
SmartScarecrow 4 years ago
be carefull with those sparks near the gas !!! get a switch and maybe a relay !!! the volume of gas you are producing could be quite dangerous !!! my ears are still ringing from an incident three months ago when I was doing very much same as what you are doing ... spark too close to much gas make BIG boom ...
SmartScarecrow 4 years ago 2
It must have some electrolyte in it.
pochintwin 4 years ago 2
great work!
Gagekko: the unit is conected to the motor so we know hes only pulling 12v, i am curious of how many amps and temperature over time; but production wise for a 1st demo i think is great.
sweetnenita 4 years ago
Bubbles mean nothing, liters per minute at what power drain determines efficiency. Besides that, what about the heat it generates after time?
Good luck but there is more to it than just putting as many plates s you can together.
gagekko 4 years ago