I really wish that Christians would actually READ the Word of God and know what it actually says before they try to "debate" with other faiths. Memorizing John 3:16 and a few other verses does not qualify one to debate religion. It is the the power of praying through the Holy Ghost and living as Godly examples to the World, that will save souls, not the constant debating of unlearned and uneducated people. Unfortunately, Muslims often lead more disciplined, holy lives than many Christians.
My question is not what either Jesus or Paul said, my question is who is Isaiah talking about in Isaiah 53: Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him: he hath put him to grief : when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin......???????? If not Jesus? Who? If not necessary, why did Isaiah prophecy this? The book of Isaiah was in the Dead Sea Scrolls unchanged.... The death of the Messiah was described in detail centuries before His death. If not Jesus? Who died this way? And why?
Discussing who is right.. the Christian or the Muslim. That has to be the most epic retarded discussion possible to be witnessed by human kind. How can you prove your right if you can't prove your god exists or the stories really happend.
Religious people need to either die or grow the fuck up.
@echtwaarisdatzo It's always nice to hear from intelligent, enlightened, and articulate atheists. Can you prove to me how consciousness emanated from unconsciousness, or do you take that on blind faith alone?
@echtwaarisdatzo Excellent argument, you have obviously read all religious texts and studied them deeply and intellecually disected them and come to your deeply intelligent argument. Well done you sound very intelligent.
@tobygeral as ive said these men are trying to prove themselves wrong based on what they know about the book, just like trying to get which one is right for example the right spelling for colour/color which causes war and violence in every parts of the world i dont really side with christians and jews but i dislike muslims for following it radically in the middle east, in my opinion islam needs enlightenment just like some good muslims but they're too few in numbers
@anonymous133711 I fail to see how this video connects with anything "radical". Since the Christian man in the video is there for the same purpose of proselytizing, you could just as easily start a thread on how radical and extremist Christians are. Muslims are already quite "enlightened" which is why we constantly oppose the wars that Christian America starts. Most evangelical Christians, on the other hand, support such wars. Please look in the mirror and criticize.
@tobygeral i dont really side with the christian guy in the vid, so is with the muslim as ive said the both party are questioning one another, which will not makes sense, in short the other guy believes that the spelling for colour is spelled as color vice versa
and no ive said radical in the middle east not in the video you should read my comments to avoid misunderstanding and im talking bout the enlightenment of a religion if you took offence on what ive said i suggest to calm down and read
@tobygeral and no america is not so christian nowadays so is the west if you know what i mean, no offence but it is believed that islam is quite enlightened in the west, but i believe not in the middle east and africa and im not pointing out the religion itself, but the people that practice it on such a way... i mean come on why not take the enlightenment like muslims in the west
@anonymous133711 Moreover, your comment side-steps the theological issues and questions that are brought up in this video. This is a common tactic of evangelical Christians. Are you one? Since the theological arguments of Islam are often too hard to respond to, the focus of the discussion is shifted over to more political issues (violence in Syria, honour killings, al Qaeda, etc.)
@tobygeral did read my comment?i dont think your reply suits on my comment you should re-read it
and for my opinion about islam, not really about political killings but how they execute their prisoner is one of the things i hate about it they follow the quran quite the medieval style of christianity as ive said there are too few muslims who achieved the enlightenment,some middle eastern muslims still approves of stoning,beating of wife,polygamy which i dont think is necessary its true am i right
I really wish that Christians would actually READ the Word of God and know what it actually says before they try to "debate" with other faiths. Memorizing John 3:16 and a few other verses does not qualify one to debate religion. It is the the power of praying through the Holy Ghost and living as Godly examples to the World, that will save souls, not the constant debating of unlearned and uneducated people. Unfortunately, Muslims often lead more disciplined, holy lives than many Christians.
pieladypeace 1 month ago
My question is not what either Jesus or Paul said, my question is who is Isaiah talking about in Isaiah 53: Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him: he hath put him to grief : when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin......???????? If not Jesus? Who? If not necessary, why did Isaiah prophecy this? The book of Isaiah was in the Dead Sea Scrolls unchanged.... The death of the Messiah was described in detail centuries before His death. If not Jesus? Who died this way? And why?
pieladypeace 1 month ago
Discussing who is right.. the Christian or the Muslim. That has to be the most epic retarded discussion possible to be witnessed by human kind. How can you prove your right if you can't prove your god exists or the stories really happend.
Religious people need to either die or grow the fuck up.
echtwaarisdatzo 2 months ago
@echtwaarisdatzo It's always nice to hear from intelligent, enlightened, and articulate atheists. Can you prove to me how consciousness emanated from unconsciousness, or do you take that on blind faith alone?
tobygeral 2 months ago
@echtwaarisdatzo Excellent argument, you have obviously read all religious texts and studied them deeply and intellecually disected them and come to your deeply intelligent argument. Well done you sound very intelligent.
kadirbashir 2 weeks ago
5:30 to 6:50
takes the debate
schooled
ShieldOfIslam 5 months ago 2
Crap and pointless debate. Theology, *sigh*
Teghead 8 months ago
these guys are debating what the man's idealism is what religion to practice
thus differentiating the "maker" and "creator" tho in my opinion islam is a bit slightly edited and twisted in its own way i pity the muslims tho
anonymous133711 8 months ago
@anonymous133711 I wish your comment made sense; I'd be interested in knowing what you were trying to say.
tobygeral 8 months ago
@tobygeral as ive said these men are trying to prove themselves wrong based on what they know about the book, just like trying to get which one is right for example the right spelling for colour/color which causes war and violence in every parts of the world i dont really side with christians and jews but i dislike muslims for following it radically in the middle east, in my opinion islam needs enlightenment just like some good muslims but they're too few in numbers
anonymous133711 8 months ago
@anonymous133711 I fail to see how this video connects with anything "radical". Since the Christian man in the video is there for the same purpose of proselytizing, you could just as easily start a thread on how radical and extremist Christians are. Muslims are already quite "enlightened" which is why we constantly oppose the wars that Christian America starts. Most evangelical Christians, on the other hand, support such wars. Please look in the mirror and criticize.
tobygeral 8 months ago
@tobygeral i dont really side with the christian guy in the vid, so is with the muslim as ive said the both party are questioning one another, which will not makes sense, in short the other guy believes that the spelling for colour is spelled as color vice versa
and no ive said radical in the middle east not in the video you should read my comments to avoid misunderstanding and im talking bout the enlightenment of a religion if you took offence on what ive said i suggest to calm down and read
anonymous133711 8 months ago
@tobygeral and no america is not so christian nowadays so is the west if you know what i mean, no offence but it is believed that islam is quite enlightened in the west, but i believe not in the middle east and africa and im not pointing out the religion itself, but the people that practice it on such a way... i mean come on why not take the enlightenment like muslims in the west
anonymous133711 8 months ago
@anonymous133711 Moreover, your comment side-steps the theological issues and questions that are brought up in this video. This is a common tactic of evangelical Christians. Are you one? Since the theological arguments of Islam are often too hard to respond to, the focus of the discussion is shifted over to more political issues (violence in Syria, honour killings, al Qaeda, etc.)
tobygeral 8 months ago
@tobygeral did read my comment?i dont think your reply suits on my comment you should re-read it
and for my opinion about islam, not really about political killings but how they execute their prisoner is one of the things i hate about it they follow the quran quite the medieval style of christianity as ive said there are too few muslims who achieved the enlightenment,some middle eastern muslims still approves of stoning,beating of wife,polygamy which i dont think is necessary its true am i right
anonymous133711 8 months ago
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha only Christian.ha ha ha ha
johnkenny4443 11 months ago
How is that guy Christian? I am Christian but look I don't care about Mary what is that shit?
RunWhilstYouCan 1 year ago
@RunWhilstYouCan yeah, even muslims care about Mary, dunno
AfroNinjaSpy 1 year ago