Wheel of Fortune Daytime

[BillA1016]

So the values on the wheel are $50 to $500 but a vowel is $200? Vowels these days run $250 and the lowest value on the wheel is, what? 300? That's some interesting inflation :-P

[cbsteffen]

How long was Wheel of Fortune on during the day and why did they discontinue it?

[HodmoxTheCritic]

@cbsteffen Wheel of Fortune was a daytime fixture from 1975 through 1989 on NBC, CBS from 1989 through to the beginning of 1991, then back to NBC for the rest of its run in 1991. And I assume the ratings for Daytime Wheel just weren't there by 1991, or NBC just chose to cancel it.

[pycountrygirl08]

I can't believe how young Vanna STILL looks!!!

[Bettybcafe]

Why does she have to repeat the dollar amount before picking a letter. Very annoying.

[animfan1]

It's actually solve or buy a vowel; not spin.

[wiiguy145]

I like the other one

[mooky9669]

500 top dollar value and 50 bucks low value? seesh..what is this..wheel of not much dough?

[gameshowguy2000]

Well, from what I heard, those $50 and $75 spaces then had some diamonds under them..but that didn't do much, so by 1990, they ditched them and replaced them with more tolerable $125 and $175 spaces..which you don't see much of.

[spongebobcrazy24]

No, this is the wheel of stupidity or as i like to call it, the stupid wheel with 2 digit dollar amounts.......... or the wheel of misfortune.

[LordSirpiko]

kinda funny to see 50$ on the wheel ^^

[mooky9669]

yep...

[TheNoisePolluter]

that would be funny under TRIP you win a bundle of weed ..lol

[jubjub449]

didn't the 2 digit amounts have a diamond figure under them?

[gameshowguy2000]

That didn't start until Episode 2.

[Hallstrom77]

If they were going to offer $41000 in prizes for the show, they should have implemented the 1979-80 wheel dollar amounts from the Woolery/Stafford era. Put at least 3 $500 spaces out there and minimum of $100. $1500 should have been the least amount possibly considered as top dollar value for the entire show. The vowels could have started out at $100 also.

[baconhead2008]

Bob was happy to see Vanna up close & personal, wasn't he?!

[nextbarker]

I think the reason for the looooooow cash values was didn't CBS have a cash limi at the time?

[Jnelson09Returns]

Yeah, but it certainly wasn't THAT low. In fact, I thought that by 1989, it was $75,000.

[gameshowguy2000]

And by the time TPIR was the only daytime network game show left, CBS took out the winnings limit.

[tktru]

Did the Michael Larson incident play a part in this?

[gameshowguy2000]

I don't think so. The first limit was $25K, and by the fall of '84 (way after Larsen) it was bumped up to $50K, and as Jnelson said, it was $75K by '89. From what I hear..CBS no longer has a winnings limit as TPIR is the only daytime network game show left.

[deric8]

No, the main reason was that for a daytime all cash format it would cost Merv Griffin a lot of dough and possibly take away from the Syndicated Nighttime ratings and profits they produced. This is thinking of Game Shows as a business franchise rather than entertainment.

[deric8]

That is the main reason why all the prizes/shopping format stayed on the NBC Daytime version because it was the only way to generate additional profits through product plugs and showing the merchandise to offset production costs without having to give money away and generate a profit for the Owner/Producer Merv Griffin.

[gameshowguy2000]

A $916 Lake Tahoe Trip? No wonder this version was really cheap..not just in terms of the cash on the wheel, but also the prizes.

[djcchs2004]

$50 in the wheel?! What if daytime CBS pick up Jeopardy!, amount would be worth $50-$250 or lower.

[gameshowluvr86]

Vanna looked like she was dressed for church. XD

[studleyj]

Who's idea was to put spaces into the double digits? It's baffling to see fives at the end of a space's value!

[mf0rz]

The third contestant's name is "Lou Cypher??"

lol

[lklk90]

damn that wheel was cheep.

[jarvisbrodiea1]

The 1989-1992 WHEEL OF FORTUNE graphic was pretty cool. I wish it was still there.

[gameshowluvr86]

I know right? I wonder if I could re-create it with some type of GIF animator?

[jarvisbrodiea1]

That sounds like an excellent idea. Why not give it a try?

[gameshowluvr86]

I think I will! :)

[regin2005]

WTH, is that a $50 space on the wheel??? And with the vowels at a WHOOPING $200, how is anyone supposed to make money. Wow!

[gameshowguy2000]

The $50 and $75 seasons were gone after a few weeks.

[viewdis200]

This version is so cheap. Barely make money out. It like the syndicated version of The Weakest Link.

[midaran]

what year is this? it this tha original host? yer missing some vital info here man

[Aubster06]

1989. Bob Goen hosted the daytime version of "Wheel" from 1989 to 1991.

[HoustonRules]

If I remember correctly, the show (not this version) debuted on NBC around 1979 and the original host was Chuck Woolery (of Love Connection fame). The hostess was always Vanna White (at least on the daytime version).

[urbanpreppie05]

Nope...1975, and Susan Stafford was the hostess until 1982.

[ieeeeeeeeeeeee]

and chuck woolery was host until 1981

[baconhead2008]

Why the negative thumbs up on HoustonRules. He was trying to give information, albeit wrong information.

[MrBrownstone888]

i believe its like 83

[freeek04]

this is from 1989. In 1983 the nighttime show debuted.

[Yutzwagon404]

AAACCK!!!!! THROW IT BACK!!!

[the06bug]

Ooooh, BANK-RUPT!!!

[JackSpader]

Personally, I don't know why they even bothered with retaining a daytime show anyway. Moving to CBS I think was a waste of time since the network had a winnings limit which explains the cheapness, not only that they also had a nighttime show that was far more interesting. This version should never even have existed at all.

[MrBennetzen]

What was better in 1990 the daytime version with Bob Goen or the nightime version with Pat Sajak?

[WarOfTheKnights]

Pat Sajak.

[the06bug]

Yeah, Goen's doing much better hosting TTQ, anyway.

[irolliamvolvo]

PAT AND VANNA!

[WarOfTheKnights]

Bob Goen: The Host of That's the Question and the old Wheel of Fortune. Nice host.

[jordythegiant10]

jees $75 on a wedge, people werent making that much money back then.

[Hawqis1]

There is a $50 a few spaces before that. That was quite cheap.

[baconhead2008]

When I said what does this have to do with WOF, I was responding to TVLubber's comment about something else which has nuthing to do with Wheel

[Disneydanny]

When did the wrong letter/bonus round buzzers change was it when they moved to CBS

[gameshowfreak]

yes it was

[KPCarter2000]

they should have called this version.."Welfare Wheel of Misfortune"

[samsticka]

Bob spins the wheel at the beginning of the first round. Chuck Woolery used to do that when he was host. Then Pat did it until 1989. What was the point of that?

[freeek04]

to show off what was on the wheel for the home audience. By 1992, everyone knew what was on the wheel seeing as it was essentially the same wheel they'd seen every day since 1975.

[smpage09]

Back when GSN used to show wheel on the weekends I saw a nighttime ep from 1990 and Vanna walked out with Pat instead of her own intro, was that the same for the daytime version?

[gameshowguy2000]

Nope. By 1991, Bob Goen was introduced first, and he'd greet us, then Vanna was introduced (both were still announced by Charlie O'Donnell)

[neublood]

CoOl ThAt WaS aWeSoNe!!!!☺☺☺☺☺...LOL

[mpal219]

It is a shame that throughout the entire CBS run of Wheel of Fortune they never thought to take Vanna to anywhere else besides a thrift store for her wardrobe.

[mpal219]

The cheapness of this show is what help with its demise. They actually tried to do a lot of things to help move the show along without raising the dollar value like reducing the price of a vowel from $250 to $100 because it would take too long to be able to buy a vowel.

[gameshowguy2000]

Speaking of which, $100 was one of the 4 choices in Kathy Hempel's $500 question during her time at Millionaire. THAT was the one she guessed. (So now I dispute whether the question was about the daytime Wheel, nighttime Wheel, or both)

[rfieldsfan641]

i like the old puzzle board a lot better....the newer puzzle board on the primetime WoF just doesn't have any hint of nostalgic-ness

[gameshowluvr86]

I LOVED the old puzzleboard's big, circular arch borders with the chasing lights. Made it look so pretty.

[SuperMatch2007]

There was a clip of the same episode. What happened to it?

[mbhfromla]

This version would only last for two years before going back to NBC for the summer of 1991.

[smpage09]

Well when you think about it, the CBS feud only paid out $5000 before, so it works out to just about the same. But I think the cheapness is what killed the show....Bob Goen was an excellent host, very energetic and lighthearted, perfect for daytime.

[TVLubber]

But since 1992, the CBS Feud paid out a possible $10,000/$20,000 as the Family Feud Challenge.

[smpage09]

That's true and had Wheel stayed around a little longer the money would've went up. Hey they possibly could've made an hour long Wheel of Fortune Challenge instead of Family Feud.

[TVLubber]

Or both.

[EckonicMaster]

they did in 1976

[UNCJerry77]

BIG MONEY! BIG MONEY! Not on this version.

[someguy23475]

$50 spaces? What the hell? I believe the values increased slightly when the show went back to NBC. I seem to remember the lows were back to $100, but it's been 15 years or so when I last saw it, so memory's a little lazy.

[gsdperson]

I wish this version would of stayed on a little longer, but as I said in my last comment to this video. The show is too cheap.

A great way to earn free stuff, and it's easy too!

[mylesspike119]

Vanna's entrance was 1989-92 theme. No way!!! Remember the syndicated nighttime version of WOF, her entrance was I'm A Wheel Watcher in 1987-89.

[gameshowguy2000]

The spaces that were covered up by prizes in Rounds 3 and 4: The yellow that would be $900 in primetime would be $200 on Goen's version, and $150 in primetime would be $100. (Anyone want to confirm the latter?)

[germanname1990]

I compared a picture of Bob's 1989 round one wheel with a picture of the daytime 1987 round one wheel, and I saw a lot of the values in corresponding position were cut in half. How about those pink $50 spaces? Both of them were the only $100 spaces in the daytime 1987 wheel!

[germanname1990]

I know that the very next episode that they added a black diamond figure to the $50 and $75 spaces for rounds one and two. Speaking of round two, Free Spins were normally available in round one. Only when Bob was host would you see Free Spins up for grabs in round two as well as round one.

[qualqui]

SportsBrain09: that's true, way before, the contestants would earn money and at the end of the show the contestant with the most cash would pass to the prize collection and buy, buy, buy!

[qualqui]

As for a contestant not winnin' no prize or dough, as where Pat Sajak would give out $500 dollars to that contestant(as a consolation prize) in the spanish version, ya didn't win nuthin', too bad not our fault!

[qualqui]

Great vid! Thanx for postin'! About the cheapness, could it be 'cause the show was just startin' out? Cause the Ruleta de la Suerte from Spain, also deals in 25euros, 50euros, 75 euros, the maximum prize you can get in a single spin would be a prize(cellular phone,Plasma TV,portable DVD player,etc.)or 150 euros.

[SportsBrain09]

The show was cheap as they switched to the all cash format the nighttime show adopted two years prior. I don't know why they didn't offer more lavish prizes though.

[ArmadilloAl]

The show had already been on the air for 14 years at this point. Even when it debuted with Chuck Woolery in 1975, the lowest number on the wheel was $100.

[freeek04]

actually no! It started off with $50 spaces in 1975 as well, but in 1976 they upped the dollar amounts to $100 as the minimum. They also had a Boy A Vowel Space in the first season but it was too difficult to be practical in the gameplay so within about a month they'd taken the space out and you could buy a vowel whenever you liked.

[gameshowfreak]

jeepers creepers. That show was way too cheap in terms of prizes and cash.

[snootzie78]

"...For $75, an N please."

This is a really cheap ass version of Wheel of Fortune.

BOB GOEN ROCKS!!!!!!!

[lionking300]

LOL at "There's only vowels left, you can solve or spin" looks like Bob needs a rules refresher. Thanks for posting this rare episode, those $50/$75 spaces are just wrong.

[freeek04]

considering the ratings were so low, I guess they figured they couldn't afford to give away any more than this, lol.

[Jnelson09]

This was the theme I was most familiar with.

[bluebear1985]

There is a little bit of irony and sarcasm in the second puzzle, which would describe the daytime versions hosted by Bob Goen.

[godgundam10]

Which is kind of unfortunate. I remember seeing this version MANY years ago when I was just seven(either when I was sick from school or during summer vacation) and I liked Bob Goen. While Pat Sajak will always be Mr. Wheel, Bob Goen did do a great job. It was the producers who ruined the show. While they switched to the all cash format that was being used at night when they left NBC, it was waaaaay to cheap. I would've kept the same dollar amounts that were being used on the NBC version.

[gameshowluvr86]

Yeah totally TOO cheap. I mean, $50?

[cbsfm101]

With dollar amounts like $50 and $75, I'd call it the "Wheel of Cheapness"

[godgundam10]

Continuing where I left off, $750 would be top dollar in Round 1, $1000 in R2, $2000 and $1500 in round $3 and $2500 and $1500 in R4. Also, the cash prize in the bonus round should've been at least $10,000. Oh, well.

[gsdperson]

$41,000!? Now if that's not cheap, I don't know what is!

That sounds like a value from the Chuck Woolery days. The wheel is cheap, and they should've kept the $1500 and $2000 spaces for the later rounds so the wheel wouldn't seem so cheap. But they did have some nice prizes during the game, especially in the bonus round.

[gameshowluvr86]

LMAO. Vanna with shoulder pads...

[defoedude]

do the nametags look opposite colored (black parallelogram/silver text) of the silver parallelogram/black text from 89-97?

[nextbarker]

Or at least cut the dollar values in 1/2

[cgsguy]

The wheel had cheap values. CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. For Bob Goen, I think it would be best if the top dollar values went like this: Round 1: $750, Round 2: $1,000, Round 3: $1,500, and Round 4: $2,000.

[TVLubber]

Double all that.

[RAS310]

I love how Charlie O'Donnell used to go, "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeel of Fortune!"

[nextbarker]

Hey, it's Bob's best show since he became a game show lasting 3  or 4 years

[jjc92787]

Two, actually

[jjc92787]

Oh wait it was three nevermind.

[simpsonsfan2007]

Dang, such low dollar amounts--no wonder this version didn't make it!

[nextbarker]

yy, this show replaced NYSI with Chuck Henry, neither has even been on GSN

[TVLubber]

The only reason NYSI w/Chuck Henry hasn't been seen since cancellation is because of Chuck's unfair request of no reruns. He thought he sucked, but the majority of fans say he didn't. Yet he ignores the fans and keeps his request in play unless he gives in.

[baconhead2008]

What does this have to do with WoF?

[rustyshackleford01]

alot

[bhayes06]

Bob Goen...eh.