several different ma3bu4 in different styles of wushu. an experienced master/teacher is absolutely essential to guide you towards the right posture; it is not the endurance of pain that should be a challenge for your mind and body but patience for the relaxation of internal muscles (especially illiopsoas group) and increasing awareness of the correct postural alignment; it may take months or years to be able to loosen up and relax into meaningful stance training whether done for wushu or health
horse stance is not about endurance; apologies to all those who are going to be disappointed at reading this; similar to zhan zhuang postures, if you work against the clock or think you shall build strength and suppleness by trying to endure low stances, you will only reap disappointment; to start to train towards a functional horse stance, one needs to understand correct body alignment first and understand what particular stance of what style they are working towards and why(!).
My conclusion about the horse stance is it is way too risky if you don't have the right instructor. There are much better exercises to build muscle and pain endurance... it is not worth doing this exercise and potentially messing up your knees for life...
I must admit the stance look good,but you know we train in this stance for 1 hr(workin your way up of course) but lower than this is not good.The reason is that it mess up the knees,really no good foundation,not being leveled.I teach & train Northern shaolin & Southern shaolin for over 35yr.As you know southern is more upright & northern is lower stance.I tell them to put the back against the walls (beginners 1 min & work they way off the wall.As you know in correct form you shouldn't c ur feet
A foundation for building rugged individualism, to be taken many echelons higher. I hold my horse stance for 6 minutes, and immediately perform 300 hindu squats.
@AnimaeLibera To hold a form like that for 3 minutes without any shaking or wobbling is impressive to me. He is completely convincing and jumsps straight in and holds it - his form is low and solid and his body is fluid and loose, his back is vertical straight. To do that so firmly for 3 mins he could obviously continue far longer but has chosen to demonstrate 3.
its not a demonstration of impressive time, its the form and the way he holds that form thats impressive.
I have seen better ma bu's. his stance is alright, but not worth an OMG :P
and you say "he could obviously continue far longer" but I disagree, look at his face during the last minute. he could hold it maybe for 4-5 min, but not much more ...
@macedmatt I have been practicing martial arts, wrestling, tai chi etc. for 22 years. My goal is not to hold a long horse stance but I do a lot of horse stance in all the disciplines I study and practice. Make sure the quality of your stance is very good first. Then be concerned with time 2nd!
What's more important than the time you hold your sei ping ma (horse stance) is to do it perfectly. I can do it for 4 minutes at that depth. But if i make sure everything is done right that time goes down to 1,5 minutes.
Sei ping ma is one of those exercises that is great if executed perfectly, but not really any good if there are little mistakes in my humble opinion.
@Samurailord Feet must be parallel and pointing forward. Knees should be exactly over your feet. Hips should be rotated forward (like when doing a pelvis thrust^^). Back is perfectly straigt. Shoulders low. Head straigt and looking forward, not down. Hands should be doing the Hung Gar Hand and straight forward with elbows looking towards the floor. Everything in your body is tensed up to the max. Breathing slow and deep out and into your tam-tiem (2 fingers below your belly button). Feet rooted.
I work this in my Muay Thai training to strengthen my legs and at 2 minutes i am feeling it!!! But like you said, the more I focus my mind the less I feel the pain and can just go longer. Good work.
@noobblet1996 Post yourself doing your horse stance on youtube! 7-8 minutes is worthless unless you are as low as I am in this video! I Guarantee you are not low enough! 3 minutes is perfect if you are low enough. Then add weight!
@ShaolinCenter I only say that 3 min is too small time in shaolin this time is up to 10-15min im standing 3~3.5min , and i can drop that video on youtube, i will write you...
@ShaolinCenter Most modern wushu athletes can do this no? Considering the rules state a 90 degree leg angle I would imagine that it would be as deep as yours too.
This is really hard! But I will practice this because I really want to learn some TaiChi too.I have strong legs but this is just something else, anyone saying it is easy obviously is lying, anyone who can do this easily will understand they were a beginner once, so no one at all will say it's easy...
Oh god, i remember learning this when i was a yellow belt like 5 years ago, was so painful at the time, but now thats like nothing, and is something i do before every lower body workout.
@MrTimmymontana it comes naturally after a few years of perfect practice, not just practice :p, and i can't work a camera to save my life, let alone upload it to youtube lol.
@MrTimmymontana I understand where you are coming from but would you just Shut up and stop trolling! so what, at least they are doin something, don't ruin the fun for every body else. Yea I was not taught my horse stance low like that but just calm down Mr. Montana....smh lol
@alp4a lol omg amazing, act my age, you want me to act? omg amazing.........why dont you stop acting like a man and just be the girl that you are, put on a dress and prance around the amazing town square
@MrTimmymontana This conversation is over. DO NOT REPLY. You are a Ignorant,disrespectful, and rude towards the Martial Arts and other Martial artist. A one sided person is a blind person, You should learn how to expand and grow a little. thank you for your opinion and insight. :)
@alp4a at whos pace should i expand, yours or mine? do not attempt to suppress, and let go of ego, you are not who you think you are.........you are dishonest
@MrTimmymontana I am dishonest ? No we all are dishonest to some extent,including you Mr. Montana. Why do you presist on conversating with me? And who do you I think I am ? Im perplexed by your comments(not really). Calm down, It is just Youtube. Anyone who angers you conquers you. ARE YOU UPSET sir. Im not. To be honest in a contridictive type of way. I am enjoying this conversation. Im learning and discovering alot. Thank you Mr. Montana. Who am I ? Who am I? what do you think I am? lol :D
@MrTimmymontana So am I enlighten or u? You answered only 1/2of my question. Now What am I really? To be modest Im just an intellegent well spoken Kid who studies Martial Arts and nothing more. Im a KID a kid Mr. Montana. You have taught me so much, but so little at the same time. It takes a long time 2remember nothing at all. .How doU know I was not speaking in a sarcastic tone when u 1st commented? Do not assume. Assumption is the mother of screw ups.Were u assuming or Infering Mr.Montana?
@alp4a .....a dumbed down intuitive ability is the mother of all screw ups, nothing outside of yourself can enlighten you, do not assume that i have the key.
@MrTimmymontana So u assume I assumed that you have the key? ehh great convo. thanks for the entertainment,insight and knowledge sir. What style of Martial arts do you study? And cool Vids. Who is the man Narrating. Thanks I was bored. :^D
several different ma3bu4 in different styles of wushu. an experienced master/teacher is absolutely essential to guide you towards the right posture; it is not the endurance of pain that should be a challenge for your mind and body but patience for the relaxation of internal muscles (especially illiopsoas group) and increasing awareness of the correct postural alignment; it may take months or years to be able to loosen up and relax into meaningful stance training whether done for wushu or health
davidmarcksuk 5 days ago
horse stance is not about endurance; apologies to all those who are going to be disappointed at reading this; similar to zhan zhuang postures, if you work against the clock or think you shall build strength and suppleness by trying to endure low stances, you will only reap disappointment; to start to train towards a functional horse stance, one needs to understand correct body alignment first and understand what particular stance of what style they are working towards and why(!).
davidmarcksuk 5 days ago
Impressive.
My conclusion about the horse stance is it is way too risky if you don't have the right instructor. There are much better exercises to build muscle and pain endurance... it is not worth doing this exercise and potentially messing up your knees for life...
TheWigglyduff 1 week ago
do you know what would be funny if someone ran up and kicked in the balls btw it looks like your taking a shit
12344richard 1 week ago
I must admit the stance look good,but you know we train in this stance for 1 hr(workin your way up of course) but lower than this is not good.The reason is that it mess up the knees,really no good foundation,not being leveled.I teach & train Northern shaolin & Southern shaolin for over 35yr.As you know southern is more upright & northern is lower stance.I tell them to put the back against the walls (beginners 1 min & work they way off the wall.As you know in correct form you shouldn't c ur feet
chineseeyes2006 1 week ago
Nice man. Shit that awesome. You motivate me even more man.
Jali005 1 week ago
Impressive! Any tips for getting a horse stance lower and wider? I always find that my hips start hurting the wider and lower I go.
anonymouspunk2 1 week ago
@anonymouspunk2 Straddle splits
Jaygenius 1 week ago
A foundation for building rugged individualism, to be taken many echelons higher. I hold my horse stance for 6 minutes, and immediately perform 300 hindu squats.
MrSlowsprinter 1 week ago
what's so "OMG" about it ... ?
AnimaeLibera 3 weeks ago
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999HATE999 3 weeks ago
@AnimaeLibera To hold a form like that for 3 minutes without any shaking or wobbling is impressive to me. He is completely convincing and jumsps straight in and holds it - his form is low and solid and his body is fluid and loose, his back is vertical straight. To do that so firmly for 3 mins he could obviously continue far longer but has chosen to demonstrate 3.
its not a demonstration of impressive time, its the form and the way he holds that form thats impressive.
999HATE999 3 weeks ago
@999HATE999
I have seen better ma bu's. his stance is alright, but not worth an OMG :P
and you say "he could obviously continue far longer" but I disagree, look at his face during the last minute. he could hold it maybe for 4-5 min, but not much more ...
AnimaeLibera 3 weeks ago
wow 3 minutes. My club would laugh at that
yaspencez 3 weeks ago
how long did it take you to last this long?
macedmatt 3 weeks ago
@macedmatt I have been practicing martial arts, wrestling, tai chi etc. for 22 years. My goal is not to hold a long horse stance but I do a lot of horse stance in all the disciplines I study and practice. Make sure the quality of your stance is very good first. Then be concerned with time 2nd!
ShaolinCenter 3 weeks ago
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@ShaolinCenter Does the horse stance increase running speed & jumping ability ?
Achillez10 2 weeks ago
Does this help build jing energy? sexual energy
sixthsense11100 1 month ago
@sixthsense11100 No that comes from chi gong or 18 lohan
chineseeyes2006 1 week ago
nice stance but your right foot should have been str8 not pointing out, then your stance is correct otherwise is sloppy.
jonnyblaze777 1 month ago
LOOOOL :3 It remindes me of A crab person x3 But good, stance.
MrDrSadie 1 month ago
What's more important than the time you hold your sei ping ma (horse stance) is to do it perfectly. I can do it for 4 minutes at that depth. But if i make sure everything is done right that time goes down to 1,5 minutes.
Sei ping ma is one of those exercises that is great if executed perfectly, but not really any good if there are little mistakes in my humble opinion.
Samurailord 1 month ago
@Samurailord Feet must be parallel and pointing forward. Knees should be exactly over your feet. Hips should be rotated forward (like when doing a pelvis thrust^^). Back is perfectly straigt. Shoulders low. Head straigt and looking forward, not down. Hands should be doing the Hung Gar Hand and straight forward with elbows looking towards the floor. Everything in your body is tensed up to the max. Breathing slow and deep out and into your tam-tiem (2 fingers below your belly button). Feet rooted.
Samurailord 1 month ago
I work this in my Muay Thai training to strengthen my legs and at 2 minutes i am feeling it!!! But like you said, the more I focus my mind the less I feel the pain and can just go longer. Good work.
THAIWARRIOR777 2 months ago
mabu stance-horse stance im training it and 3 min is too small time must stand 7~8
im standing 3~3,5min
noobblet1996 2 months ago
@noobblet1996 Post yourself doing your horse stance on youtube! 7-8 minutes is worthless unless you are as low as I am in this video! I Guarantee you are not low enough! 3 minutes is perfect if you are low enough. Then add weight!
ShaolinCenter 2 months ago 2
@ShaolinCenter I only say that 3 min is too small time in shaolin this time is up to 10-15min im standing 3~3.5min , and i can drop that video on youtube, i will write you...
noobblet1996 2 months ago
@ShaolinCenter Most modern wushu athletes can do this no? Considering the rules state a 90 degree leg angle I would imagine that it would be as deep as yours too.
Jaygenius 1 week ago
very impressive!
JJGMTS 2 months ago
Good demo.
dcrasta 3 months ago
Well done! I haven't tried kung fu or anything like this but i know it's hard so really well done!
132445654 3 months ago
Good job. Whenever I go that long I spend the last 30 seconds shaking.
fauteupb 4 months ago
I'm my day twenty minites was the norm, with a good book time would fly
pbxpb61 9 months ago
while you are all doing your horse stances ill take you down and choke you out with jiu-jitsu
tfrye69 9 months ago
This is really hard! But I will practice this because I really want to learn some TaiChi too.I have strong legs but this is just something else, anyone saying it is easy obviously is lying, anyone who can do this easily will understand they were a beginner once, so no one at all will say it's easy...
HardstyleMatt 9 months ago
Is this school under Sin The' or Hiang The'???
tommyofshaolin 10 months ago
is there also a COW STANCE? :-)
GuitarRoast 1 year ago
@GuitarRoast yes there is a cow stance, and a bull stance, like in the above video
MrTimmymontana 11 months ago
Oh god, i remember learning this when i was a yellow belt like 5 years ago, was so painful at the time, but now thats like nothing, and is something i do before every lower body workout.
xjaw13x 1 year ago
@xjaw13x like nothing? OK, LETS SEE IT!
MrTimmymontana 11 months ago
@MrTimmymontana it comes naturally after a few years of perfect practice, not just practice :p, and i can't work a camera to save my life, let alone upload it to youtube lol.
xjaw13x 11 months ago
@xjaw13x get real ZOMBIE
MrTimmymontana 11 months ago
@MrTimmymontana yes sir.
xjaw13x 11 months ago
your legs are out to far, you would not sit on a horse like that, and your feet are not forward, look at my video and see how its done
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
wow simply amazing . and the guys and gals in the background are amazing. I could not hold my horse stance that long and low
alp4a 1 year ago
@alp4a people like you have have made me hate the word amazing, what is it with you sheeple, get real zombie
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
@MrTimmymontana I understand where you are coming from but would you just Shut up and stop trolling! so what, at least they are doin something, don't ruin the fun for every body else. Yea I was not taught my horse stance low like that but just calm down Mr. Montana....smh lol
alp4a 1 year ago
@alp4a OMG thats amazing, that must be a wide amazing horse you sit on OMG, how does this ruin the fun, its not like i shit in the amazing pool, OMG
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
@MrTimmymontana really? How old are You? Act your age not your shoe size. I posted that comment 4 months ago, calm down its Youtube.
alp4a 1 year ago
@alp4a lol omg amazing, act my age, you want me to act? omg amazing.........why dont you stop acting like a man and just be the girl that you are, put on a dress and prance around the amazing town square
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
@MrTimmymontana This conversation is over. DO NOT REPLY. You are a Ignorant,disrespectful, and rude towards the Martial Arts and other Martial artist. A one sided person is a blind person, You should learn how to expand and grow a little. thank you for your opinion and insight. :)
alp4a 1 year ago
@alp4a at whos pace should i expand, yours or mine? do not attempt to suppress, and let go of ego, you are not who you think you are.........you are dishonest
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
@MrTimmymontana I am dishonest ? No we all are dishonest to some extent,including you Mr. Montana. Why do you presist on conversating with me? And who do you I think I am ? Im perplexed by your comments(not really). Calm down, It is just Youtube. Anyone who angers you conquers you. ARE YOU UPSET sir. Im not. To be honest in a contridictive type of way. I am enjoying this conversation. Im learning and discovering alot. Thank you Mr. Montana. Who am I ? Who am I? what do you think I am? lol :D
alp4a 1 year ago
@alp4a the book of enlightenment is a book of mirrors, you are, what ever i think you are !
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
@MrTimmymontana So am I enlighten or u? You answered only 1/2of my question. Now What am I really? To be modest Im just an intellegent well spoken Kid who studies Martial Arts and nothing more. Im a KID a kid Mr. Montana. You have taught me so much, but so little at the same time. It takes a long time 2remember nothing at all. .How doU know I was not speaking in a sarcastic tone when u 1st commented? Do not assume. Assumption is the mother of screw ups.Were u assuming or Infering Mr.Montana?
alp4a 1 year ago
@alp4a .....a dumbed down intuitive ability is the mother of all screw ups, nothing outside of yourself can enlighten you, do not assume that i have the key.
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
@MrTimmymontana So u assume I assumed that you have the key? ehh great convo. thanks for the entertainment,insight and knowledge sir. What style of Martial arts do you study? And cool Vids. Who is the man Narrating. Thanks I was bored. :^D
alp4a 1 year ago
@alp4a water...........i see water at your home
MrTimmymontana 1 year ago
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alp4a 1 year ago
omg incredible mind control :)
urukandji 1 year ago
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MrTimmymontana 1 year ago