Tchaikovsky Symphony 6 - Movement 4 - Karajan

[TheDansm]

The tears just started to fall down.

[TMANMAN16z]

The Russian title of the symphony, Патетическая (Patetičeskaja), means "passionate" or "emotional", not "arousing pity." Tchaikovsky considered calling it Программная (Programmnaja or "Programme Symphony") but realised that would encourage curiosity about the programme, which he did not want to reveal. According to his brother Modest, he suggested the Патетическая title, which was used in early editions of the symphony; there are conflicting accounts about whether Tchaikovsky liked the title.

[TheVan3Goons]

FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pjakobson1]

Pathetique is the perfect name for this symphony. The English pathetic is not correct. The French word means:

Affecting the emotions of pity, grief or sorrow; touching.. A most apt name.

[fozziebear2009]

@pjakobson1 It means that in English, too.

[amesakurako1]

this gave off like a solemn jazzy feel, the last few seconds sounded so much like heaving breaths and the pizzicato like dying heartbeats..

[dimsimlord]

He killed himself shortly after writing this, it shows

[pianoman1812]

@dimsimlord You must be well informed. Many people say his death was accidental, and many say, like you, that it was in fact suicide. It seems, that a story reads that his old classmates from the school of jurisprudence formed a "Council of Honor" and told Tchaikovsky to kill himself, or he would be outed to the czar.

[WeTheStrange]

My God, this music is just so deeply emotional, it's very difficult to listen to without sinking into complete despair.

[Bret6464]

@WeTheStrange This is Tchaikovsky's expression of the immense agony that then defined him - it cries despair and loss, it is immensely painful but beautiful.

[WeTheStrange]

@Bret6464 Yes I agree.

[peacesellsstevebuyin]

this is the most depressing piece of music ever made. it makes me sob and attached to what i love and the feeling of it being lost and then also of being detached and not caring if i just dropped dead. i dont believe i would ever commit suicide but if i were too, i would be listening to this

[ratzlp0li]

@peacesellsstevebuyin

try mahler 10 adagio

[peacesellsstevebuyin]

@ratzlp0li thanks!

[TheNewFlutist]

This work is like a scene too painful to watch. Tchaikovsky is bearing a torch, musically immolating everything he knew in his life, climaxing with the throwing of himself onto his own death pyre... I have to turn my face away...

[cthtyflf]

@TheNewFlutist ...and hide my face into warm bed...

[hummerwolf]

الحركة الختامية تختلف عن مثيلتها في أي سيمفونية أخرى عرفها تاريخ الموسيقى، بل إنها تحمل قدراً من الكآبة والشجن يتناقض مع المناخ المسيطر على الحركتين الأوليين من السيمفونية نفسها، وإن كانت الحركة الثانية، وهي الأضعف، تحمل ما يشبه الغناء الكورالي المستقى من تهليلة اورثوذكسية يردد فيها الكورس: «ألا فليرقد الى جانب القديسين!».

[cthtyflf]

@hummerwolf hide your jealousy and stupidity

[xdiscotique]

Tells the story exact of a human being's suffering in 10 minutes absolutely perfectly.

[windstorm1000]

Perhaps the most moving movement in musical world history. Tragic and beautiful--like the death of a swan.

[rappering1]

Awesome music: Worth listening to!!!

[ketiadeishvili]

For my mother this simphony is requiem.

best work of Tchaikovsky .

[minralb]

I have read that the mournful but beautiful passage played by the brass section from roughly 3:00 to 4:00 of this movement was derived from an old Russian Orthodox Church funeral dirge that was usually played by a trumpeter(s?) during the march from the cathedral to the cemetery. I don't know if that's true or just hearsay, but if it's not true, even so the doleful mood created in a listener's heart by that passage is certainly appropriate for a funeral.

[minralb]

@minralb Well, I sure made a mistake on my previous post. The brass passage that I mentioned a bit earlier is not at 3:00 to 4:00 after all. I don't know where it fits in but it's not where I thought it was. Next time I make a comment I'll try to get it right..

[arenadri7]

Homage - 28.October 1893 (1840-1893) Immortal Russian Composer PIOTR ILIYCH TCHAIKOVSKY conducted 1st performance of Symphony Nr 6 - B minor "PATHETIQUE".

[arenadri7]

@arenadri7  6.November 1893 died Great and Tragic Composer PIOTR ILIYCH TCHAIKOWSKY.

[Zinlol]

There is NOTHING happy about this piece.

[MichaelDPorter]

It wasn't Modest who gave the symphony its name - it was Tchaikovsky himself, and he called it his 'Pateticheskaiia Simfoniia', which in Russian means the 'Impassioned Symphony". There's no wrtten evidence for the 'Court of Honour' story, Tchaikovsky was the Tsar's favourite composer, and it had been an open secret for years that he was a highly promiscuous homosexual. He'd come to terms with his sexuality in 1878. After that, neither he nor his Russian admirers had any hang-ups about it.

[windstorm1000]

@MichaelDPorter I think you are right-the court of honor is way too wild-but why did he drink water in at his friends home that no one was drinking (cholera warnings)? 1. Committing suicide for what ever reasons? 2.Just plain carefulness? Its a great mystery to this very day. Modest his brother could have shared more--but didn't..

[windstorm1000]

@MichaelDPorter exucse 2. should have read 'carelessness' Listen to the gong! Tolling the way to the grave! So prophetic--but we shouldn't read too much into this as we shouldn't with Mozart's Requiem. These were professionals as well as emotional beings.

[mrsherlock1412]

Absolutely Brilliant!! One of the best pieces of music I've ever heard.

[mishima1974]

The final breaths and the final heartbeats can be clearly heard at the end.

Tragic Sublimnity.

[TheTherese3]

His innards are in ponderous pain here

[TheTherese3]

A grown man can cry.

[MEpianist]

RIP Tchaikovsky!

[CarmonarioDennis]

This symphony - especifically this movement - is indeed the most moving composition of history.

[jovesheerwater]

How do I turn off comments? There used to be a little arrow.....

[russkizfb]

best suicide note ever

[BLACKOPSPROTWIN]

i have this rca stereo album thingy is it worth a fortune?

[thethikboy]

Tchaikosvky's Lacrimosa

[TheTherese3]

How does one man creat such Logic??

[TheTherese3]

THE stepps gave us a great gift.

[rockinamber18]

f those 2 that like justin biber and dislike this art of work

[jdp160]

definitely my favorite composition of his and in my top 5 all time. this symphony is his soul written out in music and brought to life by musicians around the world. EPIC

[kellyx12]

Have you heard the theory an Estonian cardiology doctor came up with? This is his death. The last notes are the heartbeats of a dying man.

[tetoviranje]

@kellyx12 this was actually his last piece, his 'requiem' so to speak... Legend has it that after the performance of this symphony he drank only a glass of water, which turned out to be polluted, and some week later he died of cholera... like he felt that he is at his end... therefore, that theory of that doctor might not be too far from the truth...

[kellyx12]

@tetoviranje I know all of this. He knew that the water was polluted. He was asked to commit suicide by the court, because he had a homosexual relationship. He wrote this end before, writing his death inside a requiem.

[windstorm1000]

@kellyx12 The 'court' theory is highly suspect. There is no evidence for it. But the alternative theories are not satisfactory either. We have to be careful reading a lot in music--even composers as emotional as T. had to be dispassionate when creating the structures of their music.....

[lyon1535]

@kellyx12 I always thought this was supposed to be the symphony of life. This, naturally, was the final stage of life: old age and death.

[kellyx12]

@lyon1535 The whole symphony, yes. This part is, as you said, old age and death. I am in love with the last few notes. The last contraptions of a fighting heart. And then a flat line..

[HIMADESU223]

During those times, Tchaikovsky's Piano concerto no.1 and the "swan lake" was rejected because of criticism that his piece was "dull and incompetent". As an result, his inner trauma began to increase throughout his mind and became stress. Some people believed he wrote the pathetique because he had no one to love during his time (despite Madam Von Meck). Additional history is a month after he composed his final symphony in 1983, he became ill and died. People believed that he committed suicide

[DeclanVB84]

@HIMADESU223 - I believe you meant "1893". :)

[HIMADESU223]

The historic reasons why this gorgeous peice was composed was not for the audience to think if it is pathetique for him/her, but feelings of the fragile composer, Tchaikovsky. In other words, he simply wanted people how he felt during when he was alive. His psychological trauma started when his mother's sudden death when he was 14. Ever since then, Tchaikovsky couldn't recover from reality. Another reason was because of his homosexuality, which carried the death penalty in Russia

[Arthurhabib1]

Tchaikovsky c'est le mieux

[trammell2004]

I just love it when composers who denote the name of the piece as a minor key end the piece with the same minor tonic. Also, using the low strings to close out the piece gives it such a haunting dark quality! I LOVE IT! Tchaikovsky, you're one of my favorites for this one!

[sparoblaz]

hehe gandalf is a tag :p

[manouchehr7]

Thanks for sharing.

This is so Intense, Thoughtful, touchy and humane.

Truly he is Master of expressing human emotion in an absolute excellent.

[fledgehog]

is this berlin or vienna?

[CaymenV]

@fledgehog It's the berlin phila

[tetoviranje]

According to my jazz harmony professor, this is the first time in history that a particular voicing technique (in jazz known as 'the thickened line') is applied. For this technique however, historians give credit to Glen Miller. Many of the chords that are implied here are jazz chords, so it's quite obvious how far ahead of his time Tchaikovsky was! it's true mastership to be both original, and lyrical... this symphony is my favourite... wonder why he named it 'Pathetic'....

[MrDanielWakefield]

@tetoviranje Thank you for sharing that historical info, that was interesting. I think I remember reading somewhere that his brother Modest Tchaikovsky was the one who named the symphony. One of the definitions of the word "pathetic" is "affecting or moving the feelings", which would explain why his brother found the title to be appropriate.

[tetoviranje]

@MrDanielWakefield very interesting... didn't know that definition. It explains it all. However, still makes me wonder who in the world would click a 'dislike' to this piece or this performance... possibly a Britney Spears fan hehehhe...

[adam246811]

@MrDanielWakefield Yeah thats correct it's not "pathetic", but "pathetique", which is related to "pathos".

[GGbreizh]

@tetoviranje Pathetic means sad.

[SydMorrison]

@tetoviranje You should do some reading up on why it's called the "Pathetique" symphony. This is by FAR my favorite symphonic work, and it largely has to do with the mystery behind it.

I could sit on here and rant all day, but to pique your interest a bit - some musicologists have argued that this is Tchaikovsky's... Suicide note if you will (although nobody really has come to a conclusion as to how Tchaikovsky really died).

[ratzlp0li]

@tetoviranje

umm... pathetique?

[pianoman1812]

@tetoviranje Well, "Pathetique" generally means tragic. I've read accounts of some historians calling this a "Russian Requiem". It certainly is a tragic piece, 6 days after the premeire the composer died.

[PermafrostIndustries]

In all my years of listening to classical music, this is probably the most emotionally evoking piece. It seems almost magical...

[olexander44]

hello guys!!! nice to see yooouu))) yeap dudes!!! this is realy most poignant music that i ever heard((( so sadness((( I almost cried!!!(( realy exiting impression//// and if looking on picture it is begins to gather tears/// I was expressed realy!!! thanks!!!

Appeopriate to sad!!!(((((

[ex0dus696]

: OOOOOOOOOO Masterpiece !

[pmcmusik]

Yes, I love this piece because It invokes in me so much depths of emotions. I loved the reocurring theme in the beginning....The first time I heard this which is three days ago, it brought the movie "The Passion of the Christ" which emcompasses every type of emotion you could think including Compassion for the guard who got his ear cut off....and with compassion Jesus restored not only his ear, but the man's faith and hopefulness...This song touches the depth of my soul....

[cthtyflf]

Perfect P.I.Tch.

[cedricyu803]

full of desperate feeling. I almost cried feeling the pain Tchaikovsky was in

[1812Beethovens9th]

@cedricyu803 i did cry..............i have about 99% of the time i hear this........ especially the whole symphony straight through........

[picchi93]

Una piccola lacrima scende, solitaria anch'essa; desolazione e vanità... 

[Enceladux]

03:17 - 03:35

Literally melts me.

[bdnrllch24]

All mouvements of this symphony are so so beautiful.why genius like Tchaikovsky dies ? and others who are stupids live! thkx for up loading.

[kynismos]

This is the saddest music in world.... all was in vain.

[mikeyctr6]

Great music.. but the video stinks

[LavittoriadiLuka]

Wow. :(

Oh Tchaikovsky, you have now succesfully brought tears to my eyes. Why must you be so amazing?

[SirKyrness]

this music is so powerful that it would drive music lovers to tears, and emos to suicide. i love the entire symphony. tchaikovsky you genius.

[9419872008]

21 days after he conducted the Sympnony at the premiere, he died. On 6th of November

[knight19283]

@9419872008 well, which you probably already know, it is though that this piece was his "suicide note" but I'm not sure if I fully believe that, although he did have a tragic life

[SharpWalkers]

@9419872008 9 days later, not 21.

[ladeadelturchese1]

E' stupenda, ascoltarla con le cuffie dà sensazioni di assoluto amore e struggente sentimento, divino come la dirige il Grande Maestro...

[itoldu10]

Yes, thank you MrDanielWakefield for sharing this masterpiece. stunning performance and interpretation, Karajan, one of the best. Even as a child I felt the despair and agony in this music.

[hamza55]

This is the road to perdition...

[MsSamAFC]

This is THE most poignant piece of music, beautifully performed and my favourite movement from the symphony - thank you MrDanielWakefield for uploading it xx