Two Million Minutes Documentary

[nextblain]

ok look, i m from india and we are not that intelligent or anything, and our education system is bullshit, its a manufacturing industry, not a school or college, and just a few days ago indian 15 year olds ranked 2nd last in the math, science and reading skills, compared to entire world, so that means they r really fuckin dumb as well, so yeah, fuck this stereotypes, we are a billion population and a bunch of the top cream gets selected in these colleges means nothing to me.

[samlearnstorock1]

I am an indian....i topped my high school in computer science....guess wer i am now.....the us of a!!.....this is the land of freedom....the indian education system is designed to breed slaves not masters!!

[Pmd9013]

What Bob Compton does is to compare top 0.5% Indians & Chinese (& they are in billions) against average or below average American kids. Down deep Indian educationalist would like to bring their standard up to SAT, but they know it is not possible in foreseeable future. India’s high school dropout rate is around 68%. 12% to 20% have access to higher education. India does have remarkable progress in several area, but all is eaten up by population & slums are the one creating population problem.

[metlin]

@Pmd9013 I agree with you in that India and China have a lot farther to go. However, you are ignoring the numbers -- even at their dismal rates of graduation, they are still churning out enormous numbers of intelligent and well-educated students. At the end of the day, it will come down to sheer numbers.

[centurion180ad]

Parents in charge of America are Federal Reserve System criminals. The American government is not accountable to its people, and is not responsive to public opinion.

It is not in their psychopathic interest for the bulk of American children to be educated properly, only their own murderers-to-be. Elites don’t need technical skills, they only need to know how to murder people, plunder & enslave them.

[vivaldivadi3]

Indian students must be encouraged to have a greater exposure to life generally including sudies, work experience, sports, etc. Just studying the books to achieve good grades is not everything; mental agitility and thinking process are more important!

[vivaldivadi3]

Indian students must be encouraged to have a greater exposure to live generally including sudies, work experience, sports, etc.

[sebwingfield]

Our corporations have betrayed us. They higher professional mythmakers like Bob Compton to mislead and demoralize us. And they will ultimately force our country into third world status if they are not required to stop engaging in labor arbitrage.

[sebwingfield]

They feed you this crap and create these myths based on half truths in order to avoid criticism for what they are really doing. It is not our higher education system that is hurting the economic prospects of out graduates (our universities are the best in the world) it is the a-holes who offshore the jobs to save money. You end up with Americans paying tens of thousands for engineering and technology degrees at universities and being forced to flip burgers to pay off their loans.

[centurion180ad]

@sebwingfield There is no incentive for an American man to become or remain a scientist. Years and years of study & debt, to be relegated to a bilge assignment. It is a massive discrimination to pay off a bachelors of science degree by sweeping, scrubbing & brainless toil. This while all the advertising supportees run off with tens of millions per year, with no education to speak of. It’s stupid society.

[sebwingfield]

Do not believe them when they say they must destroy the economic opportunities of their fellow US citizens and give them to foreigners because that's where the "talent is." There is already a surplus of talent for those jobs here in the US. The only reason they offshore, and they import labor, is because it saves them money (they can pay less benefits, there are tax advantages, lower salaries - look at the damn numbers and open your eyes).

[centurion180ad]

@sebwingfield It isn't about "saving money." There is no money. Federal Reserve System just prints up fraud-dollars and hands it out to thier Debt Syndicate criminal friends. The reason science & engineering suck in America, is because of a pure discriminatory hatred of us by the War Mongering mass murdering felon elite.

[sebwingfield]

This is total bullshit. The relevant question is not whether Indian high schools are churning out more competant math science students than US high schools. The relevant question is whether the supply of graduates from US universities falls short of the demand. The answer is NO! The supply of qualified applicants already exceeds demand here without changing our system at all.

[Sizomu]

EDUCATION = FAIL! We skip the basics (health, First Aid, Truth, reading, maths) but start immediately on Physics, Science etc. When you look @ what LIFE expects from us, school/education system doesn't teach us that. so we fail @ LIFE! but when you look at what CORPORATIONS expect from us. we succeed. U know what is most important. Also: education is being edited. example: Why do we have Economy lessons yet no one understand how the Monetary system works?!!? I am studying this, its Shocking!!!!

[Dolphinatplay]

I am an Indian,now a Canadian resident.High school in India KILLS....it is tough tough tough...the last three years when you prepare for all sorts of competitive exams plus ur curriculum.

India excels in Math and Science...but you have to come to North America if you want to learn something about lingusitics,or medieval Europe ...the University courses here have an amazing variety!

[louielamson2000]

It’s never too late to learn, or to fix a problem. It’s only too late when you to do nothing, or ignore the problem...

Thanks for sharing this video. Best wishes

Vinh city. Vietnam August 29, 2010

[knowledgeaboveall]

There is also a problem with the culture in the US in terms of education. In the south for example people are often against intellectuals. Intelligence is seen as a negative. In this culture teachers have little if any power to enforce rules in their class, discipline students, demand respect, etc. The result is disrespectful students that end up stupid in America. In other countries this behavior = a good thrashing.

[madooxnumber7]

i am Indian but i would say the university studies and flexibility provided in US is too good then India. But at school level India is more ahead than US.

[buldhana]

Late bloomer advantage

[Poincare101]

samann95014:

Stop talking about things you don't understand. India has one of the most thorough cultures in the world.

tradinginfo:

I totally agree.

[year2kill2010]

America is more based on entertainment and we already have more things that other countries wish they had, thats why we dont take education as seriously. If we where to have stricter parents and less objects such as tvs,video games, and extra activities in school i think we would have less distractions. But, judging from the countries state now i think we will have a long way to go before we become even half as smart as indians or japanese kids.

[tennismaster3211]

america has the best education. Their kids are creative unlike book worms in other countries.

[mz74smart]

@tennismaster3211 Are you kidding me!! Kids have no homework in elementry school. Algebra is considered advanced course in 8th grade. Have you ever seen a Indian or a Chinese kid get home and turn on their xbox first?

[tangerinegirl59]

@mz74smart

Kids don't have homework in elementary school?! Maybe where you live.. but not here. Also, who 'watches' Indian/Chinese kids in their houses? ;) XD

[mz74smart]

@tangerinegirl59 yeah, but you gotta admit, Asian parents are strict, and strict parents make more succcessful kids. Like in my algebra class, some american kid got a c, he got so happy he hang that on his refrigerator door.

[tangerinegirl59]

@mz74smart

It's true that asian parents are generally more strict, but I'm white and my mom would beat my ass if I got a C!! She acts all disappointed at my Bs!!

[sharathvasudev]

@tangerinegirl59

in india anything below 95% is considered BS

tats like A++ for u in grades

B is like 80% u wont survive the competition in india

infact i got 86% and didnt find a college to join as cut off wr 90+, and ended in a BS college

[tangerinegirl59]

@sharathvasudev

no... ?

Here, 95% is an A, and B is 83 to 87.

[tangerinegirl59]

HA!! Carmel High School is at 1:49!!!

WHOO GO GREYHOUNDS!!!!

[angelflight2k6]

@tangerinegirl59 You do know that the movie is pretty much dissing Carmel and other schools like it, right?

[tangerinegirl59]

Not necessarily, doesn't it really depend on the perspective of the viewer?

If it is, Carmel is the wrong school to be "dissing" because it is one of the best schools in Indiana, with 97% of students going to a four year college after graduation.

After I watched this video, I couldn't find the actual documentary. Do you know where I could find it?

Really, India and China are powerful and no doubt catching up to the US, but face it, we are still a world power and have very high standards.

[year2kill2010]

Warren Central > Carmel

[tangerinegirl59]

@year2kill2010

meh.. no.  Carmel> Warren Central

[year2kill2010]

@tangerinegirl59 bet thats not what your football team would think. lol

[tangerinegirl59]

@year2kill2010

?? Carmel wins state almost every year... sure they were beaten, but we're still usually top in the state...

[year2kill2010]

@tangerinegirl59 lmao dont take it so serious then, warren has like 7 football championships and are just as good as Carmel if not better.

[workingclasssociety]

Fuck this. The American Dream is a metaphor, for Keep fucking over your friends and get yours before anyone else.

Let china, Let India, Let Russia, have it. The Dream is a farse. Working for the man is a joke. WOrking is a big fat fucking joke.

Empower yourself and learn to grow your own food on a mass scale. Get land and food and you don't need all this garbage.

[gentlemankiller]

NEIL!!!

[zjmdj]

For those of you who question what is taking shape with India and China emerging as global powers in IT and science, please read The World is Flat and do some checking before you demonstrate your ignorance. The amount of IT openings that go unfilled due to the limit of H1B visas is staggering, that is the primary reason IT is being sent off-shore. By the way, the salary structure in India for IT professionals is not as far behind the US as you may think, and is closing rapidly.

[ImAllFact]

at this rate, China and India would be thinking like supercomputers, while the US would be free-thinkers..

[longbeachboy57]

Good bye, America...

[PKPMom]

The comment about Bill Gates not being able to find qualified Engineers in the US is nonsense. I used to work in IT recruiting and I know lots of unemployed Engineers & Programmers. The reason Bill Gates & other US corporations are taking those jobs overseas is purely money & greed. Lower employee expenses means higher profit and higher stock price and thus more stock options for the senior managment.

[shakopee2012]

I agree that we have plenty of highly-qualified engineers and programmers in the US who Microsoft can hire. It's all about bottom-line and hires in India are willing to work for a lot less due to economies of scale.

[themanfrommars]

Oh yeah dear, have you been watching too much of Lou Dobbs? I run an IT firm , can you send me the resumes of those several unemployed engineers & programmers so I can save on my costs to process the visa petitions of foreigners ? Can they write a Hello program?

[PKPMom]

manfrommars, If you really are serious, please let me know. I'd be happy to send you some resumes - very good ones I might add.

For the record, I'm neither fond of Lou Dobbs nor do I find him to be credible. Now that he's quit CNN, it can't be too long before we see him at Fox promoting more propaganda.

[kiwinq8]

The reason many left-brained, knowledge jobs are going to India and China is because you only have to pay them $5/hr. If we are in fact moving from the knowledge age to the conceptual age as Dan Pink posits in his book, A Whole New Mind, the skills sets being developed by Indian and Chinese students will only leave them at $5/hr. A more rounded education is the only way to develop "big picture" thinkers. To achieve this, education needs to become more meaningful and engaging - more tech....

[foxh8er]

That is not the point- the point is the extremely different, and almost disturbing, attitudes Americans put towards academics..

[teslapower220]

College education in India falls behind in providing the training required for research, even in IITs. Such is not the case in the US. The US has much better researchers and a much larger research output than India. I am an IIT student and am experiencing this first hand.

[fuehrerr]

What you are saying is true, but can be easily argued. USA has better infrastructure which understandably India does not have, thus students have a better "opportunity" to get trained properly. BUT, it does not mean that infrastructure alone will produce excellent graduates. Student need to have a solid grasp of mathematics to avail that training to the fullest.

This documentary is talking about the high school performance of students in India, China and USA and not college level.

[zzedzdead]

Teslapower220 is correct that the US has the market cornered on research positions and output. However, what they fail to realize is that these very positions are not being filled by Americans. They are being filled by foreigners. Foreigners who then compete with undereducated Americans.

[rapidpossumsex]

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[zotzzz]

EYE OPENING!!!!!!!!!!!

[samann95014]

i don't completely agree. there is a lot of entrepreneurial energy/culture in US which cannot be found in any other country. BTW, i come from emerging country - India. although people are highly educated there, the culture is lacking in creativity & entrepreneurship.

[techadd123]

listen @ 5:15 +

[IdoCareForPeople]

I say its lack of opportunity,capital ....

not creativity.......

Creativity comes out of opportunity....

any one can be a goood scientist with the labs and hi tech felicities in the US....

doing well in technology in INDIA is much harder with scarce funds and infrastructure...

comparing US to INDIA is like comparing apples to oranges...

if indians are still doing well despite the draw backs tat means we are staring into the face of the giant powerful counties questioning their competence...

[samann95014]

generalists hire specialists. you make your conclusions.

[longstinger]

Two conclusions: 1) an educational strategy that produces generalists will inevitably churn out an ill-prepared workforce. 2) ...that jobs and money will continue to drain from the US economy towards cultures with a predilection for specializing.

[Fireboy0]

Americans did not started...they are part of the global evolution.

[rdxpspo]

Americans started, Indians will take over and continue.

[techadd123]

what is that suppose to mean?

[cccspwn]

And china will rule all

[samann95014]

BTW, i come India & now immigrated to US. although people are highly educated there (& china), the culture is lacking in creativity & entrepreneurship. thats why US will continue to thrive ... at least in our life span.

[KarthikSoun]

I am an entrepreneur in India and i dont agree with u, ur not in business and so u wont know, there is termandous need to achieve here and invent new ways of business, Indian business men r the corner stone of the country and the richest ppl in the world.!

However the problem that will kill our growth is our shit democracy which has no political will or leadership, too much red tapeism and corruption, in a way i envy China for haveing the will.!

[Ko252]

@samann95014 Is it therefore, most of the companies that produce the products, are asians?

[SeaofSongs]

@samann95014

Huh? dude if you question about Indian culture then you need to understand what culture is. India is world famous for its versatile and fascinating culture. Please go through proper information before making these kind of fallacious comments.

[alex630710]

@samann95014

I wouldn t bet on that

the new generation of american students are getting dumber thanks to all the gadgets and toys they get. They re distracted from what they should do.

Studies proved that even for basic multi tasking jobs they sucked.

IF technology is used wisely then yes people have an advantage but in the western world it makes us dumber

[nvrnlumby3]

@samann95014 Thanks for this! It's good to know the flipside---because I knew there was one to this story!

[tradinginfo]

It appears that Americans are still in denial. They really believe that because we always survived the problems our country had in the past that we will in the future. They think we are blessed and nothing can happen to us. But wake up our jobs are going overseas, American corporations no longer have and loyalty to Americans. Their loyalty is to MONEY. It is so sad that Americans can't see the forest from the trees.

[Joeey]

The money is not sound, in case you have noticed. USA is a colony of the central bankers. They reap money by issuing corrency as debt. Look it up. Combine that with controlled media brainwashing and that, under BushCo, the US Secretary of Education credential is a bachelor's degree in political science and this should tell you why America has become an intellectual slum. Oh I forgot. Take ex-military and make them executives over things they do not understand.