Doug Perry, FOTM1, Fellowship of the Martyrs Part 1

[randywatchingbush]

Thanks for being Truthful about Doug and FOTM ... may Jesus be your way all your days...

[siftedby666]

maybe hetgow should rethink the whole Xtian thing before he starts calling others heretics.Any chance your a mason hetgow?

[sidebarr7]

I would like to hear a testimony of how Jesus saved and changed there life,and others that believe in the DP mission. Exactly what is the Holyspirit actually doing with them?

[miking193]

@sidebarr7 We believe in the Jesus Christ mission not the DP mission. If the DP mission at points lines up with that of Jesus Christ, then we can agree to those parts of what DP is doing. As far as the rest, maybe you could get an idea by glimpsing at other videos post this one. Take care.

[daffydoug]

You two look like a very sweet couple!

[miking193]

@daffydoug looks can be deceptive

[daffydoug]

@miking193 If there is a doubt, I try to give others the benefit of the doubt, because that is the way I would want to be treated ( Matthew 7:12)

[miking193]

@daffydoug that might be the right approach.

[daffydoug]

@miking193 It's what the Lord said to do. Can't go wrong obeying the Lord.

[MPPFLIPP]

@miking193 What kind of answer is that?, can't you just say "Thanks, we appreciate that." Yes, we all know we are all sinners and we all struggle in life with our partners and such. But, when someone says you like nice together, appreciate it, please. After all, your are Christians, correct?

[miking193]

@MPPFLIPP Sorry if we don't always respond in the way you think is best. We are not perfect. As far as when we said looks can be deceptive it was intended to be a self deprecating joke .

[lastblast7]

Were you there when Doug's spiritual wife C***i lived there?

[miking193]

@lastblast7 yup. Why? The first thing I'd mention is they at the time, never referred themselves as spiritual husband or wife, just regular husband & wife like anybody else who gets married. You can't believe everything you hear or see. From your question I'm guessing (could b wrong) you're going to say something negative about Doug. Before you do, scripture recommends hearing both sides before casting a judgment, so I'll send you a link to the most recent video we did on this topic.

[audiotrax2000]

Your wife looks malnourished, programmed and overall not very happy. Same look I've noticed in a lot of these videos from FOTM. I've met a lot of "Jesus" houses like what's described here, since the 70's. They all have the same thing in common: a charismatic leader who's convinced he's hearing the Word of God directly, and everyone else is missing the message. Beware. You guys are young. Demand evidence of your beliefs - not just words. Don't throw years away for someone else's "vision".

[miking193]

@audiotrax2000 we no longer live there. We left on good terms and plan on soon making one or a couple videos in defense of Doug. It seems pointless to argue over my wife's appearance you'll say she looks this way and what I'll say no she doesn't. She can be shy, we shot in Feb & she's of light pigment. Nichole being small is not by accident we have an active lifestyle. At the time she was recovering from a skate boarding accident where she broke her elbow, & got stiches in the back of her head

[clarymatthew]

@audiotrax2000 thats funny,, why does she look that way,, i dont see it. she looks very healthy,  what is she suposed to look like,

[christophorM]

God will never.".I mean never"...add to and take away from His word....if you don't believe the word.... or if you listen to a man, that ADDS TO or TAKES AWAY from it ,your in big,HUGE trouble.men that lust after authority will take you down every time.

[1156511]

Once you come here, the accusation of it being a "cult" becomes a slightly offensive joke; how anyone could say this is a cult is ridiculous.

[JeriRose2]

So, are you REALLY married? I see no wedding rings.  From what I glean, at one point you co-habited (if not doing so now) and Doug was OK with it. This is fornication and clearly sin according to the Bible. If Doug OKs co-habiting, then I need check into his teachings no further. He is clearly off.

[miking193]

@JeriRose2 wedding rings are not mentioned anywhere in the Bible as a condition of being married, it's a man made custom. We have now been legally married & wear rings, but I don't consider us more married because we where rings now. Even if Doug may have or is off on marriage does not mean he's off on everything if you'd like to see what he thinks about marriage he just made a video saying what he believes, if you think he's off do what the scriptures say & try to correct him in love

[hetgow]

I suggest you watch the videos by his latest ex-wife (he has had at least 3 wives so far). Divorce, adultery and much much worse. He doesnt even meet the basic qualifications to be an elder or deacon. So many ppl, me & my family included, have testified about his continued sin & false teachings its not even funny.

You claim there is no false teaching & demonic activity (following a false christ) but you really need to watch those videos for the truth.

:)

[siftedby666]

@hetgow yes mike,watch videos for the truth because theres no way personal experience and the guiding of the spirit could be correct.Get a new obsession man,your fruits getting rotten.

[blazinbudsbitch]

@hetgow You are a liar with no proof, I asked this guy for proof on his channel and he blocked me from commenting, and wouldn't even respond to my email messages where I asked for any evidence of the negative things he says about Doug,

If he really loved Jesus, and thought Dough was anti-Jesus he would do his best to make the evidence apparent,

WHICH HE DOES NOT

[hetgow]

@blazinbudsbitch The testimony of my & my family is the same we would give in a court of law & before God.

If Doug is so godly then why has he had 5 wives & working on the 6th? BTW his 'god' told him to marry & divorce all of them. He also uses dead demon blood to 'protect' ppl = continued sin, heresy & pagan practices.

You can say I'm a liar but you have the burden of proof - funny how all the other ex-fotmers testify of the same heresy, sin & sexual immorality.

The Lord rebuke you.

[blazinbudsbitch]

@hetgow A court of law would also ask for any evidence available to corroborate the testimony given.

A few simple questions you should be able to answer easily.

1. What was the exact date and length of time you were staying with Doug and his group?

2. Where are your pictures, or even films of being at the mission?

3. How come when I asked you questions about the bible on your comment page you blocked me, and would not return my emails about the bible? 

How is this following Jesus?

[hetgow]

@blazinbudsbitch If you watch my vids you get the full story.

As for blocking you, I did that because you keep making false claims, slandering me, my wife & child. According to you EVERYONE but Doug is wrong. However when you talk to his ex-wives & ex-fotmers you get the real story. Again I cant make you believe what we experienced, I can only warn about what happened.

As I said before, I'm finished w/ you, I'll let the Lord rebuke you.

[blazinbudsbitch]

@hetgow

THIS GUY IS HILARIOUS AND THE KING OF DECEIT

I never slandered his family, only questioned his faith in Christ

You are an insult to the Christ by calling yourself a Christian, Jesus does not want you to give up on people when they are asking you simple questions about the bible, and he certainly does not want you to lie,

I can make a quick vid showing the messages I sent to Hetgow which were never replied too, can he make a video to refute any claim I have made?

NO HE IS A LIAR

[blazinbudsbitch]

@hetgow This guy dosn't even give a date for when he claims to have been at the mission,

If you watch his vids he does not give the fully story either, he is a whore baiting with his empty promises, I hope its not for youtube views

He is also lieing when he says "According to you EVERYONE but Doug is wrong."

I never once claimed Doug to be correct on all, or even most topics, you lie about that

Simply observing the blatant lies Hetgow spews should shed light on his true nature and motives

[siftedby666]

@hetgow tsav itsav tsav itsav qov iqov qov iqov zaer shem zaer shem,your under a drunken curse hetgow.In context of what?Do we all go up like Enoch?Why,because Hes always the same,isnt He?Go make a gun video,or wave a flag,unless of course your ready to be born again,and not just have a form of godliness.Got oil?Youd better get some soon.Those who know can smell that your fruit is rotten.By the way,the curse is from Isaiah 28,and its not from me,but from Him.May The Father lead you into TRUTH

[hetgow]

@siftedby666 Gee the new testament tells real christians to pray & do good to our enemies.

Only a false god, false christ & deceptive spirit who masquades as God would confirm or command to pray curses on ppl.

The REAL Lord rebuke.

[siftedby666]

@hetgow didnt think youd understand,but I pray that you do soon

[burly636]

Do not listen to what God says to Doug, Listen to what God say's to you. I first watched a couple videos of his and some of his open letters, some thing seemed wrong to me. That was 2 or 3 months ago. I first watch some videos that were against him, but I felt 3 months ago that something was not right about it. I learned some hard lessons, Do not tkae others word for what God is saying about you, God will tell you himself. What is with your wife, does she have a say?

[miking193]

@burly636 Nichole my wife legally now, can be pretty shy, but when she has something to say she will, but she gives me a lot of support. I agree w/ you & so would Doug we should always be listening to what God wants for us individually, not relying on someone else to be our sole access to God. However the scriptures r clear we R to be one body & work together & you might have learned a lesson I haven't or convict of a sin I was hidding

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli I agree completely with this comment! I want to add that the Holy Spirit does inspire, but when it comes through the filter of 'us', we will almost certainly add our vibe to it. My point though, is that everyone does it, even the 'preachers' that don't say 'god told me'. There are 'godly' preachers who will be preaching an inspired concept one moment, and the next be off on a pet tangent that isn't universal, but they act as though it is also inspired. You know what I mean?

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli if you are His sheep, all you need to do is get close to your Shepherd and HE will whack the wolves. Our job as sheep is not to go after those we think may be 'wolves in sheep's clothing', rather if you spot a wolf, remind the sheep to run to the Shepherd. Or should all the Protestants arm up and go to war with Catholics for their heresy? Then we can purge our Protestantism to make it more 'pure', though we will disagree, but we can settle it on the battle field... right?

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli thats completely wrong! Everyone puts some belief in some source outside the 'word of god'; especially if you are defining that as the bible. Do you know how many 'Reformers' proudly cite the works of Calvin, Luther, Wesley etc... are they all heathen condemned for reading someone else's words? The book of Enoch is at least as credible as any book by a 'christian author' such as Billy Graham, Paul Washer, Osteen, John Piper, Driscoll, Lucado, Giglio, Laurie etc...

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli we never said the book of Enoch was definately 100% inspired who suggest it's a good book to read on our channel but that's it, we should you the things Jude mentioned about Enoch aren't in Geneisis, You need to be more careful judging people to hell so hastly, you are making judgments against based on untrue info, we never said any pf the aporchpha was 100% inspired I believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh & is the messiah,

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli Jude is mentioning things about Enoch not mentioned in Genesis no where in Geneisi does it say Enoch"And to these also Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, ‘Behold, the Lord came with ten thousands of his holy ones, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their works of ungodliness which they have wrought, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him’”

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli you seeing of Doug makes you more qualified then me who has none for 2 years & lived & worked with him for months at a time? that doesn't add up. You seem to an itchy trigger finger to judge people eternally to hell instead of trying to convict them of there sin & bring them to repentance, you're so quick to eternally judge people I think will burn many chances you could have to be a better witness, I'm not saying never convict of sin but you seem all to eager to judge to hell

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli the books we mentioned were kept in the Bible for a long time, & at least had the same respect we give them, worth reading but not sure if they're 100% error free. You seem to have a lot zeal for the Lord & you're pretty quick to condemn people you don't a whole lot about. If you'd like we can talk at any time. We have moved back to PA for now, we are no longer living with Doug, we didn't leave on bad terms it was time for us to move into a new season

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli we have been on the road the last couple days & been busy unpacking & gettting resituitated. As far as the Book of Enoch it's refrenced in the Book of Jude quoted directly, we don't say 100% it's divine, but I don't see any major faults with it, people can read it themselves & see that at least it's interesting, & better then a novel, we hold the same stance on other apocrapha, interesting worth reaidng but as far as 100% divine we don't make that claim

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli so how will it go for those who defend Despotic Popes and Tyrannical Protestants who tortured and murdered 'in the name of'.... ? If he is teaching false, reveal it; otherwise its only your opinion and preference; and in that case you should have some grace. Do you really believe that the Catholic 'church' of the medieval ages was acting in Apostolic authority when they sacked Constantinople? Inquisition? Those who opposed those actions were called 'lone wolves' & heretics!

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli it seems you are getting a little overboard against Doug. You should use the Bible to measure his behavior and teachings. In case you haven't noticed, many more lives have been ruined by the 'teachings' of non-believing 'Catholic' professional priests than Doug has even come into contact with in his entire life. And that is an established church that fits your criteria for credibility.

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli its also biblical for the people to overthrow such ruthless despots as judgement for them being tyrannical dictators. We are each responsible to God for ourselves. We are His sheep, and it is necessary for us to hear His voice. No one is saved by the group they hang with(though it obviously affects your beliefs and behavior). The "Ancient" Churches as you call them have their value, but they do not have a monopoly on God. The Church is the people.

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli the problem with China is state control, which is always a bad idea. They are persecuting the real churches and murdering their pastors, executing Christians and harvesting their organs. It's vile and wicked. Also, use some discernment; Doug and Jim Jones are not equivalent. Jim Jones was a communist unbeliever, only using the church to gain a following. Doug is pursuing Christ, even if you don't agree with his conclusions or methods. There is a huge difference.

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli the Protestants rebelled against the Catholics, and for good reason. Martin Luther was a Catholic.... and the Orthodox at that point were not in Europe (thanks to the treachery of the Crusading Popes deciding to actually attack Constantinople instead of defend her, since it was easier and more profitable....). Then consider the actions of Luther, Calvin and other quasi despots... so a guy like Doug is wrong, but a tyrannical Theologian burning 'heretics' is cool? Grace...

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli the established 'Church' often fights among itself. You have to leave room at this point for people to follow God outside the perimeter of 'established Church' as understood to be an official mainline IRS filed tax exempt organization. There are Christians in underground churches in China getting heavily persecuted for not being part of the Communist approved 'church'... you'd be cool with them right?

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli I may agree with you in principal; but here is a problem. Regarding the line of churches, the Catholics actually were a schism from the Orthodox, who are really the oldest line of Churches if you want to be technical. The interesting thing is that if you check out what they have been teaching, its basically the same thing as the modern day Evangelicals, Protestants, & Charismatics etc. Just saying....

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli I see your point, but to be hardline on Succession would deem all Protestant and even Catholics to be merely schisms of the Orthodox Church. Are you also advocating your denomination and all others to stand before the Elder Bishops of Orthodoxy for judgement on their doctrine & practice? We as individuals are responsible for our own relationship with God. We should search the scriptures personally to verify.

[joejohnson043]

@ChristianIsraeli are you serious? Have you studied history at all? EVERY Denomination has historically thought THEY were doing it right. Do you remember all those European wars? Doug has to appear before the 'Elders'? Who appointed those elders? The Orthodox Christians trace their church practices back thousands of years, and they don't even claim all Christians false who don't appear before them.

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli Jesus said his flock would know his voice John 10:27

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli if you r so sure he's demonic Y don't you come here & try to deliever him & the people he's influencing it be the loving thing to do. Doug isn't hidding & neither m I if you'd like we could talk in person or on the phone I have nothing to hide.

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli not anyone can believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah I have family members who are atheist so I;m sure they don't. What makes these arbituray Elders in any old congregation have so much credibilty I'm not saying every elder in every building on Sunday is bad, but Y R U assuming anyone called an elder in a building on Sunday is God's annoited ones. Doug isn't hidding he's out in the public anyone can come here N say whatever to him,

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli the works are important as evidence of one's faith James wrote so. Doug displays many of the fruits of the spirit. I have disagreed with Doug on issues I told you I don't agree with his spiritual wife positiion, amoung others & he acts like most people who I have disagreed with, sometimes it was ok sometimes I wish it would went better, but it wasn't he tried to tie me down & forced his will on me.

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli sure Satan's workers can hand out food to, but do they live in almost poverty while doing it, Doug gets donations he could use those on himself, the man does very little for himself, what I'm telling you as an eye witness he serves people, gives them portions before he takes any for himself that is like Jesus Christ not like the devil

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli there is only one Church Jesus Christ established on Earth his bride, Doug doesn't attack that, but points out problems in the divisive self serving group of people who tend to hang out in buildings on Sunday, the Church is the people not the buildings, we are the temple of God not buildings, what specific claim did he make that you finding fault with

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli it's clear teachings is one of the gifts of the spirit, so yes their teachers who are able to help others to grow. I believe all their teachings should line up with scripture & certaintly not go against it, "spiritual wives is one of the teaching I completely disagree with Doug on & have told him such, I don't see anything wrong with the Red Dragon being a name or symbolic for the great deception that was said would be over the masses.

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli we have some 480 videos up right now 3 deal with Doug so again you showing you lack of credibilty if you love me like you are supposed to why don't you call me or we could go on skype, Proverbs says only a fool makes a judgement without hearing both sides.

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli Jesus Christ is the Word of God, I believe you should study the Scriptures everyday, but with out the Holy spirit to intrepret it it's of no use,

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli The Book of Enoch is refrenced a couple of times in the Bible, can you prove it's demonic, so is the Book of Jasher not to mention the Book of Nathan & Gad, I can on their are multiple books mentioned in the Bible that aren't in the official cannon anymore, you're losing credibilty when you start going off on how bad the book of Enoch is when scripture makes clear refrences to it

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli i think you have the wrong impression of Doug, if you'd like I give you my number & we can talk, or you could Doug directly & try to help him if you think he's so lost, I don't just know Doug from watching his videos & what other people say about him, I have lived & worked with him for months at a time. I believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah & I believe Doug Perry is one of his, he has the works that show his faith

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli If Doug has control over me I don't think he would have let me leave for months twice last year, when I was away we only talked on the phone a couple of times briefly, Does Doug come off as a lone gunman in his videos sometime, maybe but that doesn't make him a false prophet or not a believer who can get carried away sometime, Doug does a lot of serving to people here, listnening offering food shelter clothes to people otherwise would have none

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli have I ever disagreed with some of Doug's sayings? sure, & I have let him know that, but there isn't A person on the planet who I have 100% agreed with or thought they know everything there is know about God perfectly, Doug has it faults we all do, but he lives his life loving others, unlike almost anyone else I have ever meet. He definately believes Jesus Christ is the Messiah & he definately serves others too,

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli which specifically of his teaching is hog wash & can you back that up with scripture, I don't agree 100% with everything Doug says, but he preaches Christ crucified I see him helping many people in need. I have lived Doug & seen how he gives to others while not getting much in return, the food & clothes & shelter he gives ou to the needy, while wearing beat up falling apart shoes meaning he doesn't spend $ on himself

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli You called him a false prophet so you should then tell me what propechies he claimed that were false or you should repent of the false accusation. As far as interpreting the scriptures incorrectly you should site where specifically he does this, untop of all that you should first go to Doug if you feel he's off base, maybe you already did that,

[miking193]

@ChristianIsraeli Why do you say he's a cult leader what information do you have that i don't? What prophecies has he made that didn't to pass, & did you personally try to help Doug of his error before you posted this?

[clons3253]

Mikethe only reason I asked the questions I did is because I was curious. Candy is taking this all as charges and if someone can't ask questions then this isn't a free world. I wish you only the best and Nicole too. When people put themselves in front of others they need to expect comments and I did know a little about alot of the people good or bad and I do know what was going on not everything but getting to now people is a good thing. How do you fell about what happened? Will you be back

[miking193]

@clons3253 Well it's too bad it didn't all work out, but hopefully it's because God has something better planned for everyone in the long run. We should be coming back sometime sometime soon.

[clons3253]

Mike and Nicole Thanks for allof your help you two were the only ones that really did help me at my place of business now yur FREE store. But tell me are you really married legally by our law or like smeof the others only in the eyes of God or not at all. That means you are living in sin because people in the house said you were married that's why you were allowed to have the same room? Hypocrisy or not?

[candayo]

@clons3253 We'll all be praying for you Carrie. This hostile behavior you are displaying to me and now to Mike & Nichole, is a perfect example of you being angry and baring unforgiveness in your heart. I pray that God will make Himself very real to you and show you the importance of forgiveness. The Bible says in Matthew 6:15- "But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." We have to forgive no matter what has been done or we "think" someone has done to us.

[candayo]

@clons3253 Carrie, Mike and Nichole were married by Doug, who is an ordained minister by the state of Liberty. Also FOTM is recognized as an ordained church by the state as well. So yes, Mike and Nichole are married in the eyes of God.They are not living in sin. I'm sorry, but the only hypocrisy I see is you angrily trolling around leaving judgmental comments on their videos and mine, spouting out false lies you know nothing about.

[miking193]

@clons3253 Hi Carrie, remember, it's not us that was helping out, it was the God in us. Sorry about how things turned out. We've been in PA the last couple of months. We don't know what you've been up to, but we'll keep you and your family in our prayers.

[stasearoshell]

i love you both so much!!! hey mike i was a landscaper as well! and i love to growgrowgrow!! woods!!! lived in them long time! nature/creation is the very nature of our YHWH and dig this! he uses HIS NATURE TO HEAL HIS CHILDREN!! YAY!

off point of vid i know.. great vid!!!