Hot Cross - Turncoat Revolution

[Speednugget2000]

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[raiders545]

@Speednugget2000 get the fuck out.

[brandonw2010mlg]

Very good ,an abstract screamo punk type thing they got going there.

[cherry56ish]

woo cool

[OSWNOSWNOSWN]

Thank you Hot Cross for not bad screams that ruining the song. :)

[specs1396]

lol@saying Saetia defined Screamo. Saetia are fucking trash.

[pumga]

@specs1396 awesome comment... be proud of yourself.

[TheFerchodurango]

@specs1396

bite your tongue

[specs1396]

@TheFerchodurango Sorry, that wasnt me :3

[phoenixsingerpdx]

@specs1396 Saetia is FUCKING AMAZING.

[anormalnick]

real good band..

[pumga]

@andrew12398 in the closet.

[thetruelie]

This is much more melodic than Saetia which reminds me a bit of post-hardcore, I enjoy both genres so It's all good ;)

[coopersnacks]

saw these guys just after this album was released. Saw them in a tiny pub/club in Bristol, Uk in front of about 20 people, was incredible.

[qdgyuu]

Pretty Picture Of A Broken Face has been an all-time fav. song, but it now has a tough contender in this. Amazing song.

[thomaaaaaaaas1]

my $2c - definitely their best record. both challenging and highly listenable. although their old stuff was good too, they really boiled their sound on this record. high quality songwriting and consistency. they mastered the sound, toured the uk and quit. hot cross was more or less influenced by the screamo genre but not limited to. just like the best artists in any genre. similar records i like of this period are kidcrash - jokes and loma prieta - last city.

[pumga]

@thomaaaaaaaas1 yeah, those two are awesome... especially jokes.

[kinghangabar1]

Saetia, Hot Cross, Makes me wish I was born earlier.

[XxPouringRedRainxX]

reminds me of dance gavin dance ;)

[LazyNoJutsu]

Man, I love Youtubecommentscore.

[RazorGene]

Saetia was better. Hot Cross were cool. However, Saetia helped to define screamo.

[pumga]

@RazorGene i wouldnt say that makes them better. sure, their stuff is really good and important for the genre, but i think hot cross is more refined. there arent many records that can keep up with cryonics :D

[monomatemusic]

@pumga saetia is an entirely different band. they defined the math rocky tinkly sound of screamo that stays in vogue with bands like ctts, etc... definitely genre-defining in a lot of subtle ways.

[Tonyphase1]

@RazorGene Your a general hipster douche bag aren't you?

[kevinites]

very awesome song but to me the fall of troy is wayy better

[john711ify]

Saw them at South By Southwest in Austin and then two days later in Houston. Right before they broke up a few years ago. One of the best shows Ive ever seen.

[wastedrecords1]

sounds like at the drive in...... great

[Dudemag]

i KINDA like the fall of troy, but you IDIOTS mean that THE FALL OF TROY SOUNDS LIKE HOT CROSS.

[espindola1988]

yeah reminds me fall of troy anyway hot cross was so unique

[chiarezza]

reminds me of fall of troy - still, great stuff

[matthewxbrown]

@chiarezza you mean fall of troy reminds you of them

[audiobloodxx]

They're good, but they sound a lot like The Fall of Troy.

[MrChambonable]

that band is unique... i wish some day can see they in a show.. but i think hes broke up?¿?...

well amazing anyway....

this guys destroy everithing even the genre..

[pumga]

yes they broke up... you rarely get a chance to see any of those semi famous bands...

[MarcyBAINES]

This band rule far too much I reckon.

[dlawson191]

dgd did not rip anyone off . everyone has their influences and similarities to other bands. i'm sure theres 100 other bands that sound like this

[carrotjuice555]

Probably goes down to punk or math punk. Nothing else.

Math punk because of the complex guitar.. But ive heard of things such as christian nintendocore, wth man..

[pumga]

ever heard hugcore? phew...

[straightXjessedge]

hugcore... what?!

[pumga]

i heard some band calling themselves hugcore... i dont remember who though and i dont even want to... the only thing i know ist they sucked...

[JaketehRipper]

You can put -core on the end of anything and make it into a genre. Like Christcore, Queercore, Cooking Pancakescore, and don't forget Doing your homeworkcore.

[pumga]

Corecore...

[JaketehRipper]

Post-post-corecore

[pumga]

Hot-Cross-Core

...

im so proud of that one =) im very creative today

[Tearsofromance]

@JaketehRipper

Best way to put it bro lmfao

[Terryemotive8]

lmfao

[StopSomething]

math punk sounds just as stupid

[bestregret]

saetia and jffb for life.

[davidrush85]

wow, dance gavin ripped this band off Haaaard.

[toolegit2quittttt]

what song? i wanna hear

[icspwnz]

at what point do people stop trying to label a band's sound and appreciate the music for its message?

[toolegit2quittttt]

ugh THANK YOU these bands aren't sitting around all day trying to classify their music into more and more specific genres..why are all of these people?

[pumga]

cause they cant do it themselves and at least have to act like experts on the topic? =P

well... of course i tell people when they think some stupid capitalist pop punk band is emo, but i dont take it too far (i hope ^^)

[toolegit2quittttt]

haha no people that listen to that garbage need to be told. thanks again for the links awhile back

[pumga]

youre still welcome ;)

[toolegit2quittttt]

i did a short cover of this its on my channel

[williamxlange]

@pumga I like when people refer to My Chemical Romance and Hawthorne Heights' as emo and label the whole genre to be such. Luckily for me I'm from Chicago, literally from the home of emo and get to see the Kinsella family as often as I want. Ain't nothing like the midwest when it comes to emo.

[Sephirothx777x]

Awesome, sounds like saetia mixed with The Fall of Troy.

[lalorv1]

mm unos dicen qe es screamo pero no creo no gritan ase qe la neta no se qe sea pero ta chido (HH

[XxDregeNxX]

Could somebody give me a download link for this? I can't find it on any torrents.

[cincyxskater]

dude i feel you i can't find any

[straightXjessedge]

buy the cd.

[pumga]

dont give him thumbs down for that people, you really should buy the cd ^^

[WhoIsChrisonfire]

Still love this song. Was my ringtone for a year. My favorite Hot Cross track.

[deathsonataiv]

kool song

[oldschoolemo93]

are the guys from saetia in this band? i forget

[pumga]

the singer (billy werner) was is saetia before this and as far as i know their drummer was too. im not sure about that though.

[chadsnadsrox]

This is not screamo.

Its pretty much just Punk with good guitar lines.

[Nizzemanden]

thats pretty much what screamo is.

[anthonysjb]

this is basically the definition of HxC

[pumga]

orly? :D

[anthonysjb]

huh?

[pumga]

this definitely goes beyond the usual hardcore. it think its way more post-hardcore than anything else.

[anthonysjb]

idk

im really only getting hxc from this

[pumga]

well, we could cut it all down and call it "punk". that should satisfy everyone.

[grapefruitstrawberry]

or we could go even further to call it "rock"

[Nizzemanden]

he was replying to a post on the page before. youtube fucked it up.

[pumga]

oh. well then, sorry for confusing and being confused ;)

[danikap4o]

they sound a little like DGD :]]

[anthonysjb]

not really

the riff reminds me of antlion a little bit

but just becuase of the shredding

but dance gavin dance is experimental

and this is hardcore

now the fall of troy sounds ALOT like DGD

[TheSpokenDisciple]

this suck the singer can't and he can't scream i think he wants to tell us a story!!

[pumga]

"this suck" - spelled wrong. also just your opinion, if you dont like it thats ok, but why cant you say that in a more neutral way? and with this question ive already got another: why do you even comment if you dont have anything useful to say?

"the singer can't and he can't scream" - whats the first thing he cant do? ^^

"i think he wants to tell us a story!!" - well, most singers want to tell you a story, what else are the lyrics for?

[icspwnz]

the grapes are sour today.

[anthonysjb]

lol.

wtf.

[DIRTYbipolarKids]

i like it but i like saeita beter sorry:[ but i knoe this iz a really good band....same lead singer thats why i listned to it but i like him beter in saeita

[CrpzGrndrKrnx]

sounds like anti-flag

[pumga]

i cant see how :D could you clarify please?

[Nizzemanden]

Well, OF COURSE because Anti-Flag made a song called Turncoat, which means they must have the same sound, silly.

[pumga]

oooh, im so sorry.. how could i forget... shame on me :P

[Tisssemand]

Lol nicholai.

[Gruunldfuulk]

One of the few post-hardcore bands I really enjoy. And the broke up, just like Bear vs shark. : /

[luckyy1123]

i'm not really sure what you people are arguing about.. but this song is the shit.

i likee.

[TehBluebear]

Music has become that diverse and different, is there even any point in applying a genre to a song anymore?

People should just treat music like it is: Music.

[pumga]

of course you are right to an extend, but you cant just say "hey, hot cross makes good music!". some people dont like hardcore, some dont like metal, some (or many xD) dont like hip hop. you have to narrow it down a bit to make it attractive for people at a first glance.

but yes, every band is different and cant be described only by one word.

[Ampgrave]

Hot Cross are good music-core

[pumga]

i give up...

its great that people listen to good music, but it sucks that they cant stop saying "[BAND] is [GENRE]"

wuuuutevaaaar

[fito2790]

hot cross is real screamo!!!!

[putalaweanosemeocurr]

hot cross is black metal

[tisokan]

did this guy really just say that is he crazy

[Xcokedav096]

Hot Cross is Emo-core/screamo

[pumga]

thank you very much for another comment of this kind

[AFIheartbroken]

Actually it is screamo From the first wave like from 90'somes to 2002 is that wave

[pumga]

yeah.. and when did this album come out? 2007. seriously, hot cross wasn't screamo anymore at that point. and they were never first wave screamo.

[AFIheartbroken]

Okay Dude ive benn around tha scene a while but whatever u say men... by the way when ppl say First wave it referes to the time the band form Jerk

[pumga]

well... let me put it this way: i dont want to say you have no clue at all, i cant do that because i dont know you. but your screenname is AFIheartbroken, your favorite videos are mostly about the wrong, stupid wannabe emo stereotype, you dont put any effort in spelling and what you say is contradictionary or wrong (emo started in '85). your objectivity and knowledge is highly questionable.

[AFIheartbroken]

Dude i know emo sucks okay? this is a shared account my grlfrnd likes to share it and im from venezuela so... im not really good in english Besides thsat emo and screamo dont have anithing in common to me i dont relate them at all

[pumga]

seriously, stop discussing or learn something about emo. if your not that good in english, thats no problem, im from germany so i guess im not the right person to tell you off anyway ;).

fact is, hot cross were emo (screamo is a subgenre of emo, no need to say screamo) but not always screamo.

oh yeah, emo doesnt suck :D

[AFIheartbroken]

ok im not sure if ur right but at least u make'd ur point in a decent wa u diddint send me to fuck off so i accept ur point

[pumga]

thanks man, i appreciate that. one more sane person on youtube ;)

[zamirsaraysk8]

epa yo tambien from venezuela pero estas peleas de generos son raras uno no sabe que son

[AFIheartbroken]

see ia me da kligueva esa mierda

[fromherotozero]

Good band

[DIRTYbipolarKids]

this isn't hardcore..but i like its pretty good

[ivanlvhc]

this discustion has no point!rather you like it or not they're good!

[snuffyshiteside]

This is in the vein of screamo.

And anyone that likes Saetia over this I question.

[resilenthill]

i like saetia but i prerfer la quiete cuz they're italian like me

[CoffeeStudios]

I love Saetia. One of the greatest screamo bands I've heard.

[eliscmj]

Saetia <3

[geometrybot]

i like this over saetia. listen to the saetia cd and you can tell by the end of the cd that saetia had run its course in the span of just a few 7"s.

hot cross had legs.

[pumga]

yeah, saetia didnt evolve because of its short lifetime, hot cross did something different on every album. both rule, but i like hot cross better as well.

[lunade13]

but I don't believe that they be very bad, in fact i like as they sound. ..but a millon of times less than Saetia, cannot compare.

[pumga]

well thats opinion, i think both saetia and hot cross were top notch, but my personal favorite is cryonics :)

[lunade13]

En efecto, esto no es screamo; creo que estoy condenada a escuchar los viejos temas de Saetia para siempre..

[pumga]

could you please write that english? :)

[lunade13]

I SAID: In fact, this is not screamo; I believe that I am condemned to listen the old themes of Saetia for ever..

I prefer the form to sing (or to scream) in Saetia, of course..

[Ronnievdl]

people want to believe their favorite music is emo/screamo so they can 'prove' that they are really emo, which they are not.

this is NOT screamo.

[pumga]

thank you...

[RedKurbleem]

This is screamo. Just because theres no screaming doesnt mean its not screamo.

[pumga]

seriously... why would you call something that doesnt have any screaming in it screamo?

screamo doesnt have to be only screaming, but screamo without any screaming? i dont think so

[austinstock]

The music sounds like screamo! so why not? and theres yelling in the song so thats kind of like screaming

[pumga]

i wouldnt say it sounds like screamo... hot cross plays a pretty modern style of (scr)e(a)mo, but risk revival is more straight hardcore most times

[Retrocore]

Fail.

[pumga]

you fail this band

[skrit3k]

billy terner is fucking talented.....in saetia and now too good work

[pumga]

i cant believe some people really think this is screamo... theres absolutely no reason in telling people that it isnt either because its so obvious.

of course its not screamo, do you hear anyone screaming?

screaming doesnt make screamo, but screamo without screaming... well, i think something like that doesnt exist

[bestscps]

Well, there are some screamo songs without screaming. E.g. funeral diner's decline or yage's anderes leben or ampere's the world is behind us or hot cross' frozen by tragedy.

So well, if you removed Werner's voice from some early Hot Cross stuff (everything till cryonics probably), the song would be like instrumental screamo.

But an entire screamo album without screaming? Sounds weird to me. Thus, Risk Revival is (post-)hardcore.

[ancask]

its hardcore, no screamo

[Taifun18]

sounds crappy thats no screamo...

[pumga]

do you actually listen to this kind of music? im pretty sure that who listens to (real) emo would think this sounds crappy.

[HeavyMetalBattleCat1]

So fucking awesome!!

I love Hot Cross!!

That's true Screamo!!!

[uudens]

song heard with awe indeed

[wilo93]

WENIZIMA LA CANCION!!!

[tjmr15]

favorite song by them, a video for this would fuckin' rock

[pumga]

we can only hope for a reunion :)

[haroimdonard]

one of the best songs on the album

[pumga]

true

[Hazzardan]

This and "Better A Corpse Then A Nun" are my favorite songs.

[natxsavage]

LOVE THIS SHIT =]

[ineqvation]

This actually sucks. They're half-assed musicians. The vocalist has no power at all in his voice, he can neither sing nor scream properly. Go listen to some real hardcore punk or metalcore bands.

[meankid95]

who cares if it does its a very good song with good lyrics i dont care if his voice has power

[pumga]

ineqvation... you are simply wrong.

[gh0stchant]

What a fucking stupid thing to say.

What about bands like Minus The Bear or Jeniferever? whose vocalist barely whispers.

Doesn't make a slight bit of difference, Billy Werner's voice is all part of what made Hot Cross unique, and I can tell you first hand how powerful they were live.

If you want to hear him scream go listen to Saetia.

On a side note, 90% of "Metalcore" is fucking laughable, recycled garbage.

[tokenfyp]

so true gh0stchant.

love this band, real screamo.

[pumga]

well... theres really no screamo left on risk revival ^^

[atkaHC]

metalcore sucks

[kbaptiste28]

lol, this is not metalcore.

[atkaHC]

hey mate, i know :D

i love Hot Cross

i posted this emssage as a reply to ineqvation's post...

pugma yeah, i know, i listen to some metalcore bands.. but most metalcore bands suck, in my opinion...

and Hot Cross is a very good screamo/post-hc band.. one of my favourites:)

[pumga]

well, you should never generalize ;) i agree to an extend though, there are many metalcore bands (especially those you only find on myspace) who dont do anything interesting.

[pumga]

metalcore doesnt generally suck and no, this is not metalcore... who would ever be so... well, stupid, to be blunt, to say that?

[kbaptiste28]

never said that metalcore sucked, just said that this band is not metalcore.

[danthman666]

fucking amazing band

pity they're not so well known

[pumga]

maybe they are one of those bands that only get known when theyre already gone...

[meankid95]

not alot of people know them

[pumga]

yeah, they were kind of underground ^^

[meankid95]

love this song

[johan371]

Love love love hot cross

[pumga]

you mean yourself? maybe...