I love how UNIX gets it's name from being 'castrated MULTIX'. Meaning ultimately GNU and Linux both get their name from MULTIX and are both based off of it in many ways.
I installed Linux on my son's computer. Frankly, I expected some whining that this or that doesn't work. To my surprise, most games worked either in wine or dosbox, and he quickly discovered games on repositories.
Now I have set up Audacity and hooked his 50€ keyboard (no MIDI) to the soundcard, in two passes he first records the keyboard section, then switches input and records vocal.
Dawid is 11 years old, and I am sure there are younger GNU/Linux users.
He probably has MacBook because apple make very nice hardware and you really do osx or windows to have an iPhone or iPod (need iTunes for software updates etc) but he may very well have a linux disro on his MacBook
In fairness, now; he admits that. Things change...like science :-) Old linux was not user friendly, despite what anyone says. Now it finally is, and the Frymeister likes it.
It's a virtue to be able to change your mind if something speaks for the things you didn't give much value earlier. There actually is great deal of argumentation behind all this.
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he really doen't have a clue, since most people know it as linux, searching GNU and getting distros from them will probobly result in unpopular distros, just google open suse if you want a good distro or ubuntu
this is on the front page of the FSF website. So anyone who finds it on that site will see it in context. Also, im fairly sure this will have aired on TV at some point. It is very important that people realise the difference between the opperating system and its kernel.
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Does anyone else find Mr. Fry a little creepy, a little too smarmy? It seems as though he's got something nasty up his sleeve. I have the same impression of several of the people who work for GNU-related projects.
No, I don't work in any commercial companies, but I trust them more as their livelihoods depend completely on the quality of their products, and they work with a more established system (copyright).
I could be wrong about all this, but it's a lingering feeling.
I myself and a lot of companies owe a lot to GNU and Linux. It's great. Happy birthday! But there is a fundamental problem with the free software ideal. How would I pay my mortgage if I gave my work away?
Having Fry as a testimonial is pretty impressive but why add these terribly stupid pictures to the video? Some guy's drain pipe? A CD with some unidentifiable thing attached saying DRM? Please.
An ad for the FSF with such a popular figure should was a big chance. Way to make it look unprofessional.
the thing is it's not meant to be professional, it's trying to say that well you can do what you like, if it made out as professional then you'd say well i can't do that. So thats why it has pictures like that.
GNU/Linux just owns windows cause of the freedom, portability and customization etc and you have no tens of build-in backdoors, spyware and copyright demonic issue's like you all have in windows!
the kernel is the OS...the rest is just applications...don't believe me...look at the 'software' stallman claims as part of the GNU OS...things like FTP and such are just apps, and have all been replaced by different vendors, ask yourself how much of Ubuntu is still GNU ???
still not as cool as Hugh Laurie on HOUSE...bummer...and GNU just does not sound cool...linux sounds more edgy...which is why the name caught on same as windows sounds better than kernel32
if richard stallman had of called it Unox or Gnuox it would have caught on...GNU is just an anti climax of a name...sorry
I'm so sorry about the brain washing, Stephen. Just more propaganda for Stallman :(
All the parts of the OS but the kernel? That tiny, insignificant part of it, eh? Because everyone that uses a kernel uses the GNU userland, eh Stallman?
And the GPL, the free licence that's so free, it doesn't let you use what the FSF think is "non-free". If you have open source code with an attribution licence, you're not even allowed to use it with GPL'd code, so you end up rewriting everything from scratch.
the kernel is the OS...the rest is just applications...don't believe me...look at the 'software' stallman claims as part of the GNU OS...things like FTP and such are just apps, and have all been replaced by different vendors, ask yourself how much of Ubuntu is still GNU ???
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How utterly ridiculous. It is fine to recognize a 'birthday' for the GNU project, but I challenge anyone on the repeated comment that it is an operating system. I realize that Mr. Fry has no knowledge (of SW), but it is this level of perception (of what for example GNU is all about) that keeps the SW industry in a quagmire. People learn part of something, and espouse it.
Mr. Fry, you appear to really work in management, banking (too obvious), or still overall trying comedy.
The diversity and customisability are Linux's strength. Removing that is like removing Sampson's hair - it's key to any success for Linux going forward.
You sir, are ignorant. Torvalds coded it for fun, and it spread by his friends. It was never a competitor for Windows. That'd be like saying Windows would be nothing if not for the hatred for BSD.
This video is about Free Software and the GNU operating system, neither of which was founded by or developed by Linus Torvalds.
In the early 1990's Linus Torvalds wrote an operating system kernel (which is usually combined with GNU), 25 years ago Richard Stallman founded the Free Software movement and the GNU operating system.
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Fiddle with the OS? Ha ha ha, another idiot who doesn't get it. The OS only needs to do one thing, run MY programs, MY code. Create something, do something.
And why can't you fiddle with it? Why can't it do exactly what you want it to do? Why can't you change the shell, modify the drivers, optimize and secure it as you want?
You call Stephen Fry - one of the most intellectual men on the planet - "another idiot"?
I think he quite eloquently explained the need for complete freedom with your Operating System. You can tune up your plumbing, your car engine or your computer hardware; so why not your OS as well?
Ah yes I forgot about that one... solitary.. USB port. Sure Linux has supported USB for ages, but does the CD drive manufacturer follow the specs? Besides USB is a dumb protocol so more of the control is in the software. There's going to be more chance of Linux failing to install on the Air whatever method you chose. I can think of good reasons why a netinstall won't work either.
I like Linux, I use it. I just find Fry's choice of laptop ironic.
Why ironic? It's a very nice laptop. Linux is a very nice OS. They're even better together. I run Linux on a MacBook.
And, I seriously doubt that there are any problems with booting and installing from a USB-connected CD drive. The USB mass storage protocol is very well-defined and implemented everywhere. The random USB floppy (floppy!) drive that I got with a ThinkPad seven years ago works fine to boot my MacBook.
Also, even if there were some bizarre CD problem, there's always LiveUSB.
AFAIK not as much variation in floppies as cd-drives. For example, I bricked an LG CD-drive a few years ago by installing Linux on my machine. It was no fault of Linux of course. It was LG's fault for not following the ATAPI specs.
I also have a MacBook (not an Air) and I think it's a very good machine (not for cpu intensive stuff tho). I got sick of running Linux on it because suspend doesn't really work. Pavel's imp (the default) doesn't work. Cunningham's works but has poor userland support.
I love the way he says "GNU Linux", instead of the short and untrue "Linux".
becomepostal 2 weeks ago
im going linux as soon as the games i play are native to it :)
worghal 3 weeks ago
Fry is wrong. GNU is not an 'entire operating system'.
jez0000 1 month ago
Suddenly, SOPA-PIPA-ACTA...
Sincecakewasborn 1 month ago
>Guh-New
jackedupcrackersman 2 months ago
I bet Fry has a crazy gaming rig, haha.
lb8068 5 months ago
I love how UNIX gets it's name from being 'castrated MULTIX'. Meaning ultimately GNU and Linux both get their name from MULTIX and are both based off of it in many ways.
sharperguy 10 months ago
I installed Linux on my son's computer. Frankly, I expected some whining that this or that doesn't work. To my surprise, most games worked either in wine or dosbox, and he quickly discovered games on repositories.
Now I have set up Audacity and hooked his 50€ keyboard (no MIDI) to the soundcard, in two passes he first records the keyboard section, then switches input and records vocal.
Dawid is 11 years old, and I am sure there are younger GNU/Linux users.
LMB222 1 year ago
@Alexc3895
He probably has MacBook because apple make very nice hardware and you really do osx or windows to have an iPhone or iPod (need iTunes for software updates etc) but he may very well have a linux disro on his MacBook
metalmaniac248 1 year ago
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sharperguy 2 years ago
Stephen Fry - the most loved man is Britain
rulebrittaniaPTBB 2 years ago 8
Stephen "Grade I listed National Treasure" Fry
7677890 2 years ago 4
:D :D
Nazmus1992 2 years ago
Hmm.... he has a MacBook Air sitting right beside him.
alexc3895 2 years ago
I say, Jeeves!
raachel24biilson 2 years ago 4
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Stephen Fry is a freetard!
trickyD1ck 2 years ago
he can't make up his mind not so long ago he was slagging off linux and declaring macs as the greatest computer
lacerveza1977 2 years ago
In fairness, now; he admits that. Things change...like science :-) Old linux was not user friendly, despite what anyone says. Now it finally is, and the Frymeister likes it.
Jpg700 2 years ago 5
It's a virtue to be able to change your mind if something speaks for the things you didn't give much value earlier. There actually is great deal of argumentation behind all this.
Paavi20 2 years ago
Stephen Fry for God!
Zarathustra06 2 years ago 4
the are using garage band soft wear a mac program
sirnubenegra 2 years ago
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Baileedft 2 years ago
That's all very well, but still he seems to be a very happy Mac user, at least from what we can see.
NachoKarre 3 years ago 3
Stephen Fry is an amazing person. Youve got to love him.
ElicitBelief 3 years ago 32
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omfg steven fry's a comunnist!!!1one!
Where's my gun?
arguingplentifully 3 years ago
he really doen't have a clue, since most people know it as linux, searching GNU and getting distros from them will probobly result in unpopular distros, just google open suse if you want a good distro or ubuntu
fairyheli2 3 years ago
this is on the front page of the FSF website. So anyone who finds it on that site will see it in context. Also, im fairly sure this will have aired on TV at some point. It is very important that people realise the difference between the opperating system and its kernel.
gavinepcs 3 years ago 2
gNewSense is based on Ubuntu
IHaveABeard123 2 years ago 2
In return Ubuntu is based on Debian GNU/Linux - what's your point?
daniel1982 2 years ago
My point is that gNewSense is based on Ubuntu.
IHaveABeard123 2 years ago
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Does anyone else find Mr. Fry a little creepy, a little too smarmy? It seems as though he's got something nasty up his sleeve. I have the same impression of several of the people who work for GNU-related projects.
No, I don't work in any commercial companies, but I trust them more as their livelihoods depend completely on the quality of their products, and they work with a more established system (copyright).
I could be wrong about all this, but it's a lingering feeling.
Sappharos 3 years ago
No, mr Fry is God, and more.
nederland4045 3 years ago
No. He's a good guy, but he kind of reminds me of a lot of British actors: Michael Caine or that Mr. Belvedere sitcom character. GNU not Eunochs.
sk9utube 3 years ago
I myself and a lot of companies owe a lot to GNU and Linux. It's great. Happy birthday! But there is a fundamental problem with the free software ideal. How would I pay my mortgage if I gave my work away?
Rover2000P6 3 years ago
steven fry = legend!
brainac0cult 3 years ago
Having Fry as a testimonial is pretty impressive but why add these terribly stupid pictures to the video? Some guy's drain pipe? A CD with some unidentifiable thing attached saying DRM? Please.
An ad for the FSF with such a popular figure should was a big chance. Way to make it look unprofessional.
mmmasterluke 3 years ago
Remove 'should'.
mmmasterluke 3 years ago
the thing is it's not meant to be professional, it's trying to say that well you can do what you like, if it made out as professional then you'd say well i can't do that. So thats why it has pictures like that.
McAsherz 3 years ago
Open Source is going for world domination.
ase010 3 years ago 14
GNU/Linux just owns windows cause of the freedom, portability and customization etc and you have no tens of build-in backdoors, spyware and copyright demonic issue's like you all have in windows!
ase010 3 years ago 6
and other software ofc.
ase010 3 years ago 2
the kernel is the OS...the rest is just applications...don't believe me...look at the 'software' stallman claims as part of the GNU OS...things like FTP and such are just apps, and have all been replaced by different vendors, ask yourself how much of Ubuntu is still GNU ???
dionhewson 3 years ago
still not as cool as Hugh Laurie on HOUSE...bummer...and GNU just does not sound cool...linux sounds more edgy...which is why the name caught on same as windows sounds better than kernel32
if richard stallman had of called it Unox or Gnuox it would have caught on...GNU is just an anti climax of a name...sorry
dionhewson 3 years ago
I'm so sorry about the brain washing, Stephen. Just more propaganda for Stallman :(
All the parts of the OS but the kernel? That tiny, insignificant part of it, eh? Because everyone that uses a kernel uses the GNU userland, eh Stallman?
And the GPL, the free licence that's so free, it doesn't let you use what the FSF think is "non-free". If you have open source code with an attribution licence, you're not even allowed to use it with GPL'd code, so you end up rewriting everything from scratch.
socksy 3 years ago
the kernel is the OS...the rest is just applications...don't believe me...look at the 'software' stallman claims as part of the GNU OS...things like FTP and such are just apps, and have all been replaced by different vendors, ask yourself how much of Ubuntu is still GNU ???
dionhewson 3 years ago
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How utterly ridiculous. It is fine to recognize a 'birthday' for the GNU project, but I challenge anyone on the repeated comment that it is an operating system. I realize that Mr. Fry has no knowledge (of SW), but it is this level of perception (of what for example GNU is all about) that keeps the SW industry in a quagmire. People learn part of something, and espouse it.
Mr. Fry, you appear to really work in management, banking (too obvious), or still overall trying comedy.
ulysses94 3 years ago
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While I respect fry and his statement, his argument for free software isnt true in the sense that you cant fiddle with the OS.
You can tweak and mess with windows as much as you like. They dont care.
Microsoft puts little things in to say "hey, watch it. You can fuck shit up." but theres nothing illegal, nor nothing stopping you.
hglazmv2 3 years ago
No you cannot.
They don't make the source available, which makes it very difficult to make changes.
If you were some kind of genius, you could edit the raw machine instructions, but you couldn't distribute your modified copy.
It's completely illegal to alter and redistribute commercial software.
RoboDonut 3 years ago 7
This was supposed to be in response to hglazmv2's comment.
In this context, "they" is Microsoft.
RoboDonut 3 years ago 2
Why does Youtube not allow me to send out, to spread this video?
ase010 3 years ago
Thanks it worked! :)
ase010 3 years ago
Youtube limits to send video to only 100 contact/friends. It prevents to share you videos.
ase010 3 years ago
Never heard of netbooks?
The diversity and customisability are Linux's strength. Removing that is like removing Sampson's hair - it's key to any success for Linux going forward.
modplanman 3 years ago
You sir, are ignorant. Torvalds coded it for fun, and it spread by his friends. It was never a competitor for Windows. That'd be like saying Windows would be nothing if not for the hatred for BSD.
FW1337 3 years ago 5
Ignorance seems to be catching, if I may say so.
This video is about Free Software and the GNU operating system, neither of which was founded by or developed by Linus Torvalds.
In the early 1990's Linus Torvalds wrote an operating system kernel (which is usually combined with GNU), 25 years ago Richard Stallman founded the Free Software movement and the GNU operating system.
andrewwigglesworth 3 years ago 5
Happy birthday! (I'm not too late, am I?)
chumchumthegreat 3 years ago 2
Stephen Fry - what a man!
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ppiuaaaaq 3 years ago
what's you shiny mac doing on the table? I guess you run evil non-free software on it and will go to hell for this
billbasher2 3 years ago
He runs Linux on his Mac. Just because you can't run Apple's OS on other hardware doesn't mean you can't run other OS's on Apple's hardware
MJGrindboy 3 years ago
if you wnat to buy a mac, it'f for the operating system, if you want to runt lunux it's a lot cheaper to buy a regular pc!
zwete 3 years ago
It's Stephen Fry! If he wants to buy a Mac and run Linux on it he's got the money!
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ppiuaaaad 3 years ago
Stephen Fry is the man.
loveyoutodeathbut 3 years ago
It is so incredibly weird and cool that they used one of my pictures for this video, it is a real honor! Hurrah for CC as well.
mskogly 3 years ago 3
very nice
atlanticus 3 years ago
Indeed. I wonder if he realises that?
wuzzlevideos 3 years ago
Yeah Open Source! (And Fry is awesome)
stperkin 3 years ago 7
Happy birthday GNU!
I am looking forward to another 25 years! :)
Frap357 3 years ago 7
Certainly is. Fry has always been a huge Apple fan.
wuzzlevideos 3 years ago
Hooray! Fry came out of the closet! :P
originalrhombus 3 years ago 3
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Fiddle with the OS? Ha ha ha, another idiot who doesn't get it. The OS only needs to do one thing, run MY programs, MY code. Create something, do something.
jonah1976 3 years ago
And why can't you fiddle with it? Why can't it do exactly what you want it to do? Why can't you change the shell, modify the drivers, optimize and secure it as you want?
myothernameistaken 3 years ago 18
hurr durr? hurrr durr!!
PiratesVersusNinjas 3 years ago
You call Stephen Fry - one of the most intellectual men on the planet - "another idiot"?
I think he quite eloquently explained the need for complete freedom with your Operating System. You can tune up your plumbing, your car engine or your computer hardware; so why not your OS as well?
Sticksoft 3 years ago 7
It's a Macbook Air indeed, but I bet it's running GNU/Linux :)
beegee42 3 years ago 11
I bet that must have been really easy to install given the air doesn't have a cd drive. I wonder if Stephen Fry does his own netinstalls... ;)
thefattux 3 years ago
The Air has a USB port. Plug in any USB CD drive.
swillden 3 years ago
Or a LiveUSB install.
jamesmcm03 3 years ago
Ah yes I forgot about that one... solitary.. USB port. Sure Linux has supported USB for ages, but does the CD drive manufacturer follow the specs? Besides USB is a dumb protocol so more of the control is in the software. There's going to be more chance of Linux failing to install on the Air whatever method you chose. I can think of good reasons why a netinstall won't work either.
I like Linux, I use it. I just find Fry's choice of laptop ironic.
thefattux 3 years ago
Why ironic? It's a very nice laptop. Linux is a very nice OS. They're even better together. I run Linux on a MacBook.
And, I seriously doubt that there are any problems with booting and installing from a USB-connected CD drive. The USB mass storage protocol is very well-defined and implemented everywhere. The random USB floppy (floppy!) drive that I got with a ThinkPad seven years ago works fine to boot my MacBook.
Also, even if there were some bizarre CD problem, there's always LiveUSB.
swillden 3 years ago 4
AFAIK not as much variation in floppies as cd-drives. For example, I bricked an LG CD-drive a few years ago by installing Linux on my machine. It was no fault of Linux of course. It was LG's fault for not following the ATAPI specs.
I also have a MacBook (not an Air) and I think it's a very good machine (not for cpu intensive stuff tho). I got sick of running Linux on it because suspend doesn't really work. Pavel's imp (the default) doesn't work. Cunningham's works but has poor userland support.
thefattux 3 years ago