you can't think of anything at all that you disagree with? unconditioned in terms of , not believing everything you hear is different . if more than one source conditions you , most likely they won't be all going towards the same goal . and you'll probably pick up a condition of contradicting beliefs . that's good to examine and work out . but no right or wrong means you could easily survive the 2girls1cup challenge . and that's just wrong.
manifesting 321, you are right about some things are being wrong as long as you are looking out of/from your own perspective or the human perspective. When all is one (if you get to experience it) there is no preference, the duality of our right/wrong spectrum merges into one without a distinction. If there is no I, no you, no "other", who is it that is right/wrong? The 2girls1cup challenge is only wrong from the viewer's perspective. In non-dualism there is no perspective.
Of course things are conventionally wrong, like killing, raping, stealing, etc, etc. But they are not -intrinsically- wrong. Not wrong in and of themselves. They are just wrong because we have agreed that it is in the best interest of people not to kill, rape, and steal, etc.
Everything is truth what PF said especially when you live? in Vancouver in open minded Canada with nice appartment and having the lady that can understand you not proclaiming you as not patriot and non believer in God which in Serbia is still a big sin...What to do as if one is part of such a country
not really.. if you live out of non-dualism, there are no borders, there is no preference, and you don't need to let people know that you don't believe in God. There is nothing wrong with pretending in order to survive. Pretending is not a problem to a non-dualist, and you can always leave the country if it is unbearable to pretend... though I agree with you if we are talking in dualism.
@mogyii - When I meditate more I can realize what PF is saying(or You). But it's not easy when some hard period of my life like it is now,happening past 2 months,2 be aware that everything is changeable and as Lopon Tsechoo Rinpoche said: Everything that happens to you will be good as it is.But how to "control"emotions when one that is with me do some not-classy act, and you love that person. It is very hard in that moment thinking object, subject and action are ONE.Dreamlike state or illusion
DzogChen-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche advised me 2 have that kind of view. Its hard, bad dream that lasts n lasts- Nondual awarenes is not aplicable easy in that kind of situation, esp.when one as me has insight and see clearer what itwas/is. Should I forgive or just pretending tha nothing happend?.Only people that I know well can turn me off -that is karma. Sometimes I think that compassion will kill me...if You know what I mean..Kind regards from Beograd, from a woman with thousand lives-so tired...
RinchenSherab, you are absolutely right. From your personal, human perspective there are no other conclusions to deduce looking at duality from duality. As long as you have a preference (judging the act of the person you are with to be wrong/false/disrespectful/unaware...etc.) there is no getting out of "suffering", because you have an expectation even if reality shows you that you are wrong to expect it to be different. Your friend is the way he/she is and that is truth.
You wanting to be otherwise is arguing with reality. I'm not saying that it should stay this way, as nothing does and the only thing we can be sure of is change. However... as long as you grasp onto the idea that it is your duty, job, responsibility etc. to cast judgement and urge to correct it - is only proof that you don't see through the veil completely. A good indication of "arriving there" is the fact that there are no arguments left with God (nature), others and yourself.
simply amazing! similar to the buddist concept of "No Self"
deftones7 2 years ago
completely unconditioned means no right or wrong , i'm sorry dude but some things are just wrong.
manifesting321 3 years ago
you can't think of anything at all that you disagree with? unconditioned in terms of , not believing everything you hear is different . if more than one source conditions you , most likely they won't be all going towards the same goal . and you'll probably pick up a condition of contradicting beliefs . that's good to examine and work out . but no right or wrong means you could easily survive the 2girls1cup challenge . and that's just wrong.
manifesting321 3 years ago
manifesting 321, you are right about some things are being wrong as long as you are looking out of/from your own perspective or the human perspective. When all is one (if you get to experience it) there is no preference, the duality of our right/wrong spectrum merges into one without a distinction. If there is no I, no you, no "other", who is it that is right/wrong? The 2girls1cup challenge is only wrong from the viewer's perspective. In non-dualism there is no perspective.
mogyii 2 years ago
Like what?
Of course things are conventionally wrong, like killing, raping, stealing, etc, etc. But they are not -intrinsically- wrong. Not wrong in and of themselves. They are just wrong because we have agreed that it is in the best interest of people not to kill, rape, and steal, etc.
kasuskasus 2 years ago
Everything is truth what PF said especially when you live? in Vancouver in open minded Canada with nice appartment and having the lady that can understand you not proclaiming you as not patriot and non believer in God which in Serbia is still a big sin...What to do as if one is part of such a country
RinchenSherab 3 years ago
not really.. if you live out of non-dualism, there are no borders, there is no preference, and you don't need to let people know that you don't believe in God. There is nothing wrong with pretending in order to survive. Pretending is not a problem to a non-dualist, and you can always leave the country if it is unbearable to pretend... though I agree with you if we are talking in dualism.
mogyii 2 years ago
@mogyii - When I meditate more I can realize what PF is saying(or You). But it's not easy when some hard period of my life like it is now,happening past 2 months,2 be aware that everything is changeable and as Lopon Tsechoo Rinpoche said: Everything that happens to you will be good as it is.But how to "control"emotions when one that is with me do some not-classy act, and you love that person. It is very hard in that moment thinking object, subject and action are ONE.Dreamlike state or illusion
RinchenSherab 2 years ago
DzogChen-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche advised me 2 have that kind of view. Its hard, bad dream that lasts n lasts- Nondual awarenes is not aplicable easy in that kind of situation, esp.when one as me has insight and see clearer what itwas/is. Should I forgive or just pretending tha nothing happend?.Only people that I know well can turn me off -that is karma. Sometimes I think that compassion will kill me...if You know what I mean..Kind regards from Beograd, from a woman with thousand lives-so tired...
RinchenSherab 2 years ago
RinchenSherab, you are absolutely right. From your personal, human perspective there are no other conclusions to deduce looking at duality from duality. As long as you have a preference (judging the act of the person you are with to be wrong/false/disrespectful/unaware...etc.) there is no getting out of "suffering", because you have an expectation even if reality shows you that you are wrong to expect it to be different. Your friend is the way he/she is and that is truth.
mogyii 2 years ago
You wanting to be otherwise is arguing with reality. I'm not saying that it should stay this way, as nothing does and the only thing we can be sure of is change. However... as long as you grasp onto the idea that it is your duty, job, responsibility etc. to cast judgement and urge to correct it - is only proof that you don't see through the veil completely. A good indication of "arriving there" is the fact that there are no arguments left with God (nature), others and yourself.
mogyii 2 years ago