You know, I'm sure he was perfectly capable of playing in a "normal" way, had he wanted to. But I'm not sure how many of the normal people would be capable of playing in an interesting way.
Not like any other pianist, he played it with amazing tense. I feel the helplessly loneliness of dying alone until the key changes to major. Personally, I do not understand why Mozart had to change it to major key and destroy this beautiful piece. Gould brings music alive as always do.
I feel like there is rubato in the beginning. that is huge no no for Mozart! It's way to slow of a tempo also! I love Glenn Gould, but not this piece for him! >:( This disappoints me :(
This is one of thse pieces where playing slowly requires more skill than playing quickly.. but not THAT slowly!
I'm completely and utterly in love with Gould's playing, but I have the strange notion that if Mozart would have heard Gould play this piece in this manner (he's mocking him, really), he would have gone bananas, flipped and jumped off the first bridge he came across.
I can't imagine studying this score, and coming up with these ideas. He plays the opening (reoccuring) theme very very slowly and metronomically. It evokes in me a feeling of depression, insanity and strange obsession. I think at least the section that is in a major key, should convey a different feeling than the minor, unfortunately I don't think it does in this recording.
@nikkitytom. I actually feel that Gould's interpretation of this piece gives exactly the feel of what, for me, has passed through Mozart's guts when writing it. I imagine him just bored, lost, depressed and just allowing his hands to stroll on the keyboard. He starts slowly with no direction, then by 2.00 he gets a bit of an idea which turns into a rhythm and then he gets annoyed and by 2.48 he gets bored with himself again and abandons the plot....
He strolls on the keyboard, hammers with impatience at 3.50 and gets back to some idea at 4.05 and then at 4.37 he scales down and up again to get back to the beginning...that day he was lost but still incredibly creative and gould's version, to me, conveys exactly that sensation.
I think anyone who thinks this is not in accordance with classical tradition ought to read up. A bit of improv and interpreting it to how you think it ought to sound is a part of the tradition that was more common in the baroque era, which Gould mainly interprets.
Gould has always been and shall almost certainly remain on of my favorite interpreters of Mozart. In his biography it is stated that after a particularly atypical performance of the K331 he exclaimed, "There! That ought to get the critics!" Bravo!
@quinto34 You are fully entitled to your own opinion which of course I can't respect on the simple basis that performing any piece of music without prior knowledge of or for that matter knowing its essence is NOT a good thing. Should you have studied music on a decent level (which I presume you haven't) would probably prevent you stating nonsense about the relationship between analysis and interpretation and composition. Thank God so many musicians know what they're doing.
His playing shows a total ignorance/neglect of the different styles merging into this work, e.g. operia aria (0:58 on), Sturm und Drang and Style Galant. This is basic knowledge for any advanced student but not for Mr. Gould who prefers doing things his way even if it makes no sense musically, historically, stylistically and so on. Too bad so many worship the performer without having a clue about what he's doing.
Very interesting to hear the difference in interpretation between Gould and Leygraf's performances of this one. Both capture that element of melodrama contained in the "Fantasy," albeit, with vastly differing tempos. Gould's to me sounds darker while Leygraf's seems more comedic. LOVE Gould's version of the run at 4:38!
Gould is my favorite pianist. However this is one of his rare performances in which I feel the music ... and Mozart .... have been slaughtered. The gratuitous broken chords, added ornaments, wildly gyrating tempo and general distortion has my teeth chattering in my head.
His clarity of touch is perfect for Mozart, but his handling of this score had me wondering if he's exacting revenge on a composer he doesn't like. Some perfect portions and then whammy .... only Gould could dare this.
@nikkitytom A Fantasia is like the translation of an improvision. Is pretty much like a Romantic Impromptu. Interpretation of this type of work is much more personnal and free.
@nikkitytom Gould always takes liberties with composers music... and freely brags about it. He believes an interpreter can even bring something to the piece that the composer didn't intend and actually improve the piece.
@WolfgangusMozartus Yes, he did say that. It's one of the most idiotic comments ever made. As man is to the amoeba, so is Mozart to Glenn Gould. At any rate, I'm willing to excuse him for this comment, chalking it up to a mini-stroke.
Around 0:58, and 2:58, and 5:12 it's not discordant but it has a very tense, unresolved feeling during those times. Brilliant work for such a strong evocation of feeling with such a quiet passage. It's similar to but not really quite like " chopin waltz in a minor ", which has a more concentrated drama to it.
:) .. love this, like best grade 9/ level 9 piece for RCM its really rare for mozart to compose a sad song. but i like it good work... planning on learning this
p.s. & amount of comments...acts as a FACT ( including dislikes...reminding me those illiterate narrow minded bureaucrats , who are calling Fantasy or other classical terminology "SONGS"... ) that Gould is UNMATCHED GENIUS !
He was taking the piss with this right? Most horrific 8 minutes of my life... the off key humming in the background doesn't help with the - sure I can improve on Mozart attitude. There's tons of room for artistic freedom in this piece without adding in your bloody notes...
wow, the first thing that struck me about this video was the indication that it is a whopping 8plus minutes long.
but a really interesting interpretation. as always, gould presents me with all sorts of surprises. listening to his playing is like finding little bits of treasure here and there in a cave.
I love how unconventional and idiosyncratic Gould's interpretation is. But then again, wasn't Gould always the quasi-most idiosyncratic individual out there?
Every artist has that touch... and Gould's is so prominent it can either repel or enchant the listener. That's amazing art right there.
The best thing about classical music compared to that ridiculous pop music today is that classical music can be interpreted any way you want and each performer will do something different but in pop music there is no freedom to interpret, every recording in pop is commercialized to sound the same. Gould did that just here...by showing us how different this piece can be played compared to other artists and he did a great job. This is why classical music is true art!!
Ow my God! way of away from PERFORMANCE STUDIES! MOZART was able to make music for sure whatever he was playing music! this is not Music! bulsh** try!
Please! Sometimes nuts is nuts. If a student brought me such a performance...We know enough about 18th-century performance practice to make informed beautiful music - on fortepiano or modern piano. This is quackery and self-involved crap masquerading behind the mask of "genius".
es un bello tema interpretacion de Gould y se necesita mucho para poder hacer una interpretacion diferente de Mozart a la qe normalmente estamos acostumbrados... es un genio !
Again I am reading some of these ridiculous comments. Gould does not change other composers music. What a musician does perform is a close or very close interpretation and makes it their own. Honestly do some of you play an instrument. I always liked Gould's performance no matter what he is playing from Bach to Mozart and others. Music is an artist performance.
No doubt about Gould's touche...but this interpreation is really out of my understanding. Maybe I'm too used to more traditional interpretations, which I defintely prefer, e.g. ?v=XZtxHTSzsT8&feature=related.
Glenn could certainly be a little eccentric! He sure manages to makes this his own. I love his Bach playing, but I'll need a little time to warm up to this. But I have a feeling that's exactly the reaction he was looking for.
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Horrible interpretación. En fin, le sacas de Bach y te hace catástrofes como esta...
Glenn Gould está extremadamente sobrevalorado, por más que busco no encuentro ninguna razón del por qué se le considera un genio; solo era un pianista, y bastante limitado por cierto. Considero que su personalidad peculiar y su "carisma" es lo que le hicieron tan popular.
@Liebanus Bueno, para empezar en el arte no existen horribles o buenas interpretaciones, existe la opinión de cada uno. Y bueno si tuviera que fundamentar el porqué está tan valorado, sencillamente te diría que tiene la mejor técnica pianística que ha existido en la historia documentada del piano. Es capaz de alcanzar velocidades vertiginosas sin equivocarse en una sola nota, eso da valor a una grabación, las hace más perfectas y al menos eso si se puede medir objetivamente.
You should also realise that performance, in itself, is a composition. And a 'gross deviation' from an author's original intentions, is essentially the same as having a 'fresh' composition that was inspired by someone else. So pretty much any music you are familiar with, is somehow 'disrespecting' an author's wishes.
i agree it's almost a crime to change mozart... but. there are good things in this version as well, and it is a fantasy; he has the right to play it this way
Someone should have the right to play any composition in any way he pleases. You can dislike it because it differs too much from the composer's wishes, or you can dislike it on musical grounds alone, which, in my opinion, is a lot more sensible. Either way, it is the performer's right. Without this right, music would be relatively uniform and bland.
of course you are right CJoStudios. i myself had a concert played it there, never played piano before, but you know everyone can play mozart better then gould
i dislike the staccato notes between the other legato ones and the tempo of course it is very slow that i forgat the phrases.. but i know the power of Gould on the piano so i wont say this is a bad performance this is just a special one.
What gives him this "power" which other great pianists don't have? He DIDN'T even understand the musical merit of Mozart's music! Do you know he called Mozart "a bad, overrated composer who died too late"?
Mozart's late concertos/symphonies metaphorically kick the ass of Gould's string quartet.
I admire your defense of Gould, but I must say, some of you let favouritism cloud your judgment.
Why bother with his "power" when he himself didn't even understand the power of Mozart...
@chopinandliszt When you listen to music it is absolutely unimportant what Gould used to say about Mozart and what is the relation between Gould's Quartet and Mozart's concertos/symphonies. It is music itself and nothing more. As a matter of fact I do not like Gould's interpretation of KV 397, but not because he called Mozart overrated etc.
Well-known physician and great music lover Joseph Frank, who had twelve lessons with Mozart in 1790 and who left the following graphic account:
I found Mozart to be a little man with a broad head and fleshy hands; he received me rather coldly. now, he said, play me something! I played him a fantasia of his own composition. Not bad he said, to my great astonishment, now Ill play it for you. What a marvel! The piano became a completely different instrument under his fingers. (continued)
...He had had it amplified by means of a second keyboard, which he used as a pedal. Mozart then MADE A FEW OBSERVATIONS about the WAY IN WHICH I SHOULD PLAY HIS FANTASIA.
(W. A. Mozart By Hermann Abert, Stewart Spencer, Cliff Eisen)
Let me hear from you Michael Jackson liked it played at presto and it can be an acceptable performance. "Should be played" is just a display of respect to composers.
What if Mozart was disturbed by Gould's?
People like you grossly misunderstand this aspect...
Speaking of art, there's no rule for how a piece "should be composed" as long as consistent, convincing artistic merit supports it, I suppose. Beethoven added voices to a symphony and Chopin made Scherzo a dark, dramatic single-movement, stand-alone work.
"should be played" is a killer? Why don't you say, composers shouldn't put any meticulous tempo markings on any of their pieces? Because we'll free to ignore them... They're useless, aren't they?
FAITHFULNESS IN MUSIC. Gould's interpretation may be more faithful to Mozart than others, because it is interpretation of the music while the others are interpretations of interpretations. It is silly to say "it should sound like that" it is not only silly, it is terribly stupid. Because music is forcibly different from what we expect!
Liszt, who was always improving someone elses music, once played a Chopin Nocturne, adding all kinds of embellishments. Chopin, according to an anecdote that appears in Josef Nowakowskis study, snapped at Liszt, telling him to play the music as written or not play it at all. But the two greatest pianists of their time nevertheless did continue to see each other, and as late as 1848, Chopin was referring to my friend Liszt. (The Lives Of The Great Composers By Harold C. Schonberg)
Lots of people misunderstand this "subjective matter in music", they think Mozart, Beethoven etc can be interpreted in any way as long as, say, Michael Jackson liked it that way.
Well, Chopin TOLD Liszt to play his pieces AS WRITTEN or NOT PLAY at all.
Don't just say, Gould stays faithful with Mozart's music. He actually made slanderous remarks about it. It's obvious he freely parodies it. Follow along with the score, if you're a piano player.
Have you ever heard British critic David C F Wright saying, interpretation is NOT freedom of license?
You also contradict yourself, you talk about faithfulness in music, and Gould has the right to twist it as much as he wants, because "it is silly to say "it should sound like that"
The fact that you just call others performances "interpretations of interpretations" just tells us you don't have the ear to hear the musical insight in other pianists' interpretations.
The problem is that some people like you always force yourselves to say "good&nice" things about Gould, and get thousands of thumb-ups, no matter how unbalanced your statements are.
This aspect of the public is what Gould hated. That's probably one of the reasons why he said "Mozart was a bad,overrated composer" who died too late.
Gould was still a fine pianist, but he didn't interpret this piece in Mozart's way. Is it so aching for you to admit it? Shallow favoritism, that's what prevents you.
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You can can tell Gould truly hated Mozart. Holy mother of god, what a massacre he did with that immortal masterpiece!! I'm still shocked with the rubato, the nonsensical dynamics and tempo, the wooden tone... HS, what a hideous performance!
OMG ... every Gould video I go to seems to have several ass clowns who seem to think Gould has the magical ability to change other composers music to Bach ...
What horseshit ... can to explain why exactly?
But I can guess—no answer really other than some ass clown made a similar comment and like monkeys other people repeat it with no understanding at all of the claim they must made.
Thank God someone else out there thinks this. Just because Gould interpreted something differently, doesn't mean he interpreted it like he would have interpreted Bach. The man was a lot more intelligent and creative than a lot of you 'omg his bachish interpretation of this non-bachian composer's work is teh best' types give him credit for.
@EMPERORMIKI or the over "Napoleon..." put "This is definitely not the way mozart would have played it..."Just Imagine ! he/she talks & SURE ! about Mozart's...!!! thoughts !?
Well Mozart left us his written notes ... what else could he do? Slap someones ass if they perform a passage incorrectly (assuming all notes as directed are executed)? Music is a fluid thing—something Wolfgang surely understood evidenced by the imposition of his own thought process on tradition resulting in NEW music.
Past tradition obviously wasn't good enough for our dear Mozart ... why then should that be any different now especially with his own music?
@cellofortist by "his" style I'm assuming you're talking about Gould. So again I ask, how the FUCK is this like Bach? By your response again I assume you mean Gould performs this music in a manner somewhat reminiscent of his Bach interpretations, so again I ask how the FUCK is this like Bach? Being that the same pianist is performing this music and the Bach interpretation you hinted at ... again how the FUCK is this like Bach? Is a "detache" style exclusive to Bach? Obviously not.
Pardon me, I grew up listening to Bach played by Gould, and only Gould. His interpretations have been instilled in me to the point that I have a hard time keeping an open mind.
All of this is very debatable.
And I want to clarify: I did not mean to disparage this interpretation of Mozart's fantasia.
(Also, I grew up listening to Mozart played by Uchida and Horowitz, and again, I have a hard time keeping an open mind about Mozart interpretation). Forgive my flawed logic.
@cellofortist well as far as I can tell there are no rules concerning music--there is practice (as in what people do) and if it is widespread enough it can be written down as "theory", and some people will come along and add onto that--like our dear Bach. Same goes for performers. Had Bach paid any heed to the rumblings of the scholars of his day perhaps he wouldn't have written what he did. Music should be progressive--same for interpretations. IMHO.
Gould's music portrayed an amount of emotion that is matched by few other pianists, let alone other musicians. He combined unmatched facility was a musicality that I as a pianist envy.
I played this piece at a recital, and borrowed greatly from Gould's interpretation, not because he was greater then I was, but because i felt a connection with this performance.
To those of you who do not like Gould, just keep your mouth shut so that those of us who love him can appreciate his work.
Feel free to research musical time periods, styles, and be educated before you come on here and comment about how a piece SHOULD have been played.
Unless YOU can play this piece better (or at all), you'd be better off enjoying the gift of music that Glenn Gould has brought to the world and to you.
Ok, after reading all these comments, maybe it's time to clear the air about a few things.
Maybe this isn't your typical recording of this piece. Get over it. Mozart wasn't typical. Be grateful for different interpretations of pieces so that you don't have to hear the same regurgitated tedium all the time.
There is a huge difference between legato... and pedal usage. Mozartian music comes on the heels of the harpsichord. Relying on the sustain pedal was surely not done as much.
@chopinandliszt "Don't forget, you as the player might know more about the structure of a piece than the composer" is what Gould once said. It is far-stretched, but has a bit of a point..Nevertheless, you are mostly right..But is it wrong to play it COMPLETELY differently for once? Think of that as well..I'm sure even Chopin would get bored if he heard his nocturne 300 times..Also, Liszt didn't necesserily improve the Nocturne, he just changed it.
You write English "like as" a pig. If the human race makes it to the year 2509, Gould's recordings will still be listened to. You won't even survive as a moldy record in a bureaucrat's office. So STFU.
I think he played this very well. Mozart made up this piece in public, there for he had to make it very dramatic, parts of it extremely slow because he had to think of what to do next. Also one of the parts of this piece is that Mozart played it rather bratty.
Haha, the staccato. Seems like he uses it for every romantic passage that could be played overly sentimentally. Listen to his Beethoven Pathetique second movement, same kind of staccato first time the theme is played. Each subsequent time the them is played, there's less and less staccato, and more and more beautiful, so it's definitely by choice.
Whatever he does, you can't accuse him of not thinking over a piece enough. Great recording.
i think he looks straight into mozart, sensing his true emotion behind his music, maybe exposing the "true" mozart. maybe mozarts feelings behind this, were covered and put forward in a more "stronger" way. ripping the "mask" away, in that we hide the true feelings. maybe mozart masked his music also that way and gould exposed it, who knows...
Don't like this interpretation. Though I am a fan of Gould, this version is far to staccato. The first section was particulary painful to listen to, seriously; was he using NO PEDAL in that first section? When it cleary indicates it to be played legato? I admire people who deviate from the way a piece is intended to be played, but this is just crazy, in my opinion. Way to slow aswell.
Is this really Glen Gould? O.o ... It really doesn't sound like him... 'specially cuz I don't hear the mumbling that he usually does while he plays interpretations ...
It's not that bad though. Just a bit outside box ^__^'
I love some of Gould's interpretations, but dear Lord...he misses the mark here by an entire galaxy!
Apparently he didn't like Mozart's music very much. As such, I have to wonder: was this a joke?! This is the most somnolescent interpretation you will ever hear of this piece.
Wow.... I love Glenn Gould but Jesus Fucking Christ... this sounds like a harpsichordist on quaaludes... oh well I still love this interpretation for how in your face it is.
ssssshhhhh, Glenn is playing. No one cares which interpretation you like the best. :)
torontoBluejays87 1 week ago
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AlessandroMdP 2 weeks ago
He's singing.
schybba 2 weeks ago
Gould hated Mozart, Gould hated romantic music. Why is Gould playing one of Mozart's most romantic-esque pieces? To punish himself, or to punish us?
colourfulwithaU 2 weeks ago
Aside from the clarity, I would have guess this was an eight-year-old playing.
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"The tragedy isn't that Mozart died so young, but that he lived so long." ---Glenn Gould
khronos365 1 month ago
So Gould. So brave and individual.
:)
dahmin 1 month ago
Mozart would laugh his pants of, Gould's Mozart is hilarious..love it..
quinto34 1 month ago 2
Crass, childish, and obnoxious.
I love it.
C0urante 1 month ago
Argh! I normally love Gould but he has mutilated this!
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Mozart should not be treated like this.
inggiulio 2 months ago
Mozart does not deserve such a treatment.
inggiulio 2 months ago
Mozart do not deserve such a treatment.
inggiulio 2 months ago
Mozart was a great composer, his music is like magic. And the amazing sound of Gould really suits this type of music...
terranina1 2 months ago 2
Mozart is not the Gould's cup of tea...
andalaraja 2 months ago
Salieri and his friends have been here and vote "i don´t like"
Kalrundmusik 2 months ago 4
its just... god damn it Gould
Monty45ify 2 months ago
You know, I'm sure he was perfectly capable of playing in a "normal" way, had he wanted to. But I'm not sure how many of the normal people would be capable of playing in an interesting way.
philiphoward123 2 months ago
EL QUE PUSO NO ME GUSTA ES UN TROLO
pedr04forn04 3 months ago
@pedr04forn04 El que puso no le gusta está puntuando la interpretación (que está por cierto, muy lejos de lo que dice la partitura) no la música.
andalaraja 2 months ago
This is a lesson how to ruin a masterpiece!!Not worth of Goulds artistry!!!
nicklatinXXX 3 months ago
I like Gould a lot, but here he became another Salieri.
scmc28 3 months ago
what a version !! only Gould could play this fantaisia, that way!!!!!!
gribouille64 4 months ago
This is why I don't listen to Gould any more; it's frankly childish what he does here...
MrPaevo 4 months ago
Not like any other pianist, he played it with amazing tense. I feel the helplessly loneliness of dying alone until the key changes to major. Personally, I do not understand why Mozart had to change it to major key and destroy this beautiful piece. Gould brings music alive as always do.
circa1907czec 4 months ago
what is this mickey mouse shit !?
devilxhlywood 4 months ago
I feel like there is rubato in the beginning. that is huge no no for Mozart! It's way to slow of a tempo also! I love Glenn Gould, but not this piece for him! >:( This disappoints me :(
colaband96 4 months ago
Mozart has written alla breve.!! . So yes the tempo is in my opinion way too slow !!
I am also fan of Gould but here I don't agree with the slow tempo.
seabird22 4 months ago
GENiUS!!!
sabinulik 4 months ago
This is one of thse pieces where playing slowly requires more skill than playing quickly.. but not THAT slowly!
I'm completely and utterly in love with Gould's playing, but I have the strange notion that if Mozart would have heard Gould play this piece in this manner (he's mocking him, really), he would have gone bananas, flipped and jumped off the first bridge he came across.
Yeah, Gould wanted revenge. Big time.
NemoProkofiev551 4 months ago
I can't imagine studying this score, and coming up with these ideas. He plays the opening (reoccuring) theme very very slowly and metronomically. It evokes in me a feeling of depression, insanity and strange obsession. I think at least the section that is in a major key, should convey a different feeling than the minor, unfortunately I don't think it does in this recording.
kristoferfir 4 months ago
Glenn Gould, il più grande pianista di tutti i tempi!
SalMessina1 5 months ago
I imagine this as being up at 4:00 am with Glenn Gould
Yoshi5020 5 months ago
@nikkitytom. I actually feel that Gould's interpretation of this piece gives exactly the feel of what, for me, has passed through Mozart's guts when writing it. I imagine him just bored, lost, depressed and just allowing his hands to stroll on the keyboard. He starts slowly with no direction, then by 2.00 he gets a bit of an idea which turns into a rhythm and then he gets annoyed and by 2.48 he gets bored with himself again and abandons the plot....
clazat99 5 months ago
He strolls on the keyboard, hammers with impatience at 3.50 and gets back to some idea at 4.05 and then at 4.37 he scales down and up again to get back to the beginning...that day he was lost but still incredibly creative and gould's version, to me, conveys exactly that sensation.
clazat99 5 months ago
I think Mozart would like this interpretation...it gives you a very good feeling when you listen.
I think its great myself.
SqueezeMyLemonBabe 7 months ago
completely original, gould's ideas are definetely totally unexpected. I love it.
Prokofiex2 7 months ago
I think anyone who thinks this is not in accordance with classical tradition ought to read up. A bit of improv and interpreting it to how you think it ought to sound is a part of the tradition that was more common in the baroque era, which Gould mainly interprets.
hellomate639 7 months ago
Truly a fantasy.
MrEssmarbu 7 months ago
Gould has always been and shall almost certainly remain on of my favorite interpreters of Mozart. In his biography it is stated that after a particularly atypical performance of the K331 he exclaimed, "There! That ought to get the critics!" Bravo!
piusfelix 7 months ago
In fact I believe it is that performance which is on the album from which this performance was taken...
piusfelix 7 months ago
Amazing, magical, pianissimo, forte, all here... Could be Mozart's style of play... <3
giannisfk 8 months ago
*Applause*
christian502 1 year ago
@quinto34 You are fully entitled to your own opinion which of course I can't respect on the simple basis that performing any piece of music without prior knowledge of or for that matter knowing its essence is NOT a good thing. Should you have studied music on a decent level (which I presume you haven't) would probably prevent you stating nonsense about the relationship between analysis and interpretation and composition. Thank God so many musicians know what they're doing.
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konigstephan 1 year ago
Ridiculous.
His playing shows a total ignorance/neglect of the different styles merging into this work, e.g. operia aria (0:58 on), Sturm und Drang and Style Galant. This is basic knowledge for any advanced student but not for Mr. Gould who prefers doing things his way even if it makes no sense musically, historically, stylistically and so on. Too bad so many worship the performer without having a clue about what he's doing.
konigstephan 1 year ago
@konigstephan Analysis and music are two different matters, thank god some musician choose the latter..
quinto34 1 year ago 2
@konigstephan I think the most important parts are how he brings out Mozart's many medleys.
like around 2:26. He does it much better than Beth whoever that I saw earlier.
SqueezeMyLemonBabe 7 months ago
Very interesting to hear the difference in interpretation between Gould and Leygraf's performances of this one. Both capture that element of melodrama contained in the "Fantasy," albeit, with vastly differing tempos. Gould's to me sounds darker while Leygraf's seems more comedic. LOVE Gould's version of the run at 4:38!
murakamiTV 1 year ago
I love this interpretation. It brings out the melodies hidden in there very clear.
Pianofy 1 year ago
i think is very good ...finally yes is very good.
4791GEGE1 1 year ago
well... he could play bach.
mikeee32 1 year ago
"Affected: Speaking or behaving in an artificial way to make an impression."
I'm sorry, but this is a case of GOULD playing mozart, not the artist playing MOZART.
edkriege 1 year ago
Gould is my favorite pianist. However this is one of his rare performances in which I feel the music ... and Mozart .... have been slaughtered. The gratuitous broken chords, added ornaments, wildly gyrating tempo and general distortion has my teeth chattering in my head.
His clarity of touch is perfect for Mozart, but his handling of this score had me wondering if he's exacting revenge on a composer he doesn't like. Some perfect portions and then whammy .... only Gould could dare this.
nikkitytom 1 year ago 18
@nikkitytom A Fantasia is like the translation of an improvision. Is pretty much like a Romantic Impromptu. Interpretation of this type of work is much more personnal and free.
templedread 1 year ago
@nikkitytom He does this all the time, what's new?...
MrPaevo 4 months ago
@nikkitytom you are trippin - Glenn Gould is highly respectful of Mozart and enhances his music.... the popular wisdom in this is bullshit
Gould was the best pianist for EVERY composer he seriously played, because he is the BEST PIANIST OF ALL TIME
mabooification 2 months ago 2
@nikkitytom Gould always takes liberties with composers music... and freely brags about it. He believes an interpreter can even bring something to the piece that the composer didn't intend and actually improve the piece.
nbtothepower 1 month ago
@nikkitytom I agree. I would say this is a terrible interpretation.
knucmo 5 days ago
as i was listening to this with my ear buds I thought i heard humming in the background
dnclvr 1 year ago
@dnclvr Gould does that a lot :P
Pianofy 1 year ago
Remember that Gould said "Mozart was a bad composer who died too late rather than too early"
WolfgangusMozartus 1 year ago
@WolfgangusMozartus Yes, he did say that. It's one of the most idiotic comments ever made. As man is to the amoeba, so is Mozart to Glenn Gould. At any rate, I'm willing to excuse him for this comment, chalking it up to a mini-stroke.
Jitpring 1 year ago
Around 0:58, and 2:58, and 5:12 it's not discordant but it has a very tense, unresolved feeling during those times. Brilliant work for such a strong evocation of feeling with such a quiet passage. It's similar to but not really quite like " chopin waltz in a minor ", which has a more concentrated drama to it.
invalidsyscall 1 year ago
:) .. love this, like best grade 9/ level 9 piece for RCM its really rare for mozart to compose a sad song. but i like it good work... planning on learning this
coolioziggy 1 year ago
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justin bieber is better than mozart
atirisdes 1 year ago
oh jesus, im absolutely impressed...i can fly like that bird
monchazoo 1 year ago
okok brave job
pinocarro 1 year ago
I appreciate Gould's ideas, but I find his playing flat and stale.
colourfulwithaU 1 year ago
p.s. & amount of comments...acts as a FACT ( including dislikes...reminding me those illiterate narrow minded bureaucrats , who are calling Fantasy or other classical terminology "SONGS"... ) that Gould is UNMATCHED GENIUS !
sam0xin 1 year ago
Yes, I was right ! His imagination & grace is in cosmic level...SO RARE , SO UNPARALLELD & SO GENIUS !
sam0xin 1 year ago
There was a time I sayd: When Glenn Gould play Mozart, the piano should have no strings.
This time, it is at least interesting to listen
Bramborail 1 year ago
@Bramborail (But I had to turn it off after two minutes forty seconds)
Bramborail 1 year ago
wow, i love this one, gleen always is perfect for bach, but this one from mozart is amazing
soundspacegazers 1 year ago
fantastic !
annavsd 1 year ago
awesome! One of the all time greatest artists of the piano!
paulostroff99 1 year ago
He was taking the piss with this right? Most horrific 8 minutes of my life... the off key humming in the background doesn't help with the - sure I can improve on Mozart attitude. There's tons of room for artistic freedom in this piece without adding in your bloody notes...
paddytheunique 1 year ago
didn't gloud hate mozart?
iamamannow 1 year ago
@iamamannow -you appear to be unglued! At the least-ungloud. His friggin name is Gould.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
Could just be my audio, but around 7 min, did I heard him humming to the music?
taxmansb63 1 year ago
@taxmansb63 gould did this alot. often times you can hear him in the background of a performance. an engineer's nightmare!
toofast4love 1 year ago
wow, the first thing that struck me about this video was the indication that it is a whopping 8plus minutes long.
but a really interesting interpretation. as always, gould presents me with all sorts of surprises. listening to his playing is like finding little bits of treasure here and there in a cave.
duhhh86 1 year ago 3
I think my soul is crying... a great thanks to glenn gould....
PIANOukla 1 year ago 2
I love how unconventional and idiosyncratic Gould's interpretation is. But then again, wasn't Gould always the quasi-most idiosyncratic individual out there?
Every artist has that touch... and Gould's is so prominent it can either repel or enchant the listener. That's amazing art right there.
NemoProkofiev551 1 year ago 2
The best thing about classical music compared to that ridiculous pop music today is that classical music can be interpreted any way you want and each performer will do something different but in pop music there is no freedom to interpret, every recording in pop is commercialized to sound the same. Gould did that just here...by showing us how different this piece can be played compared to other artists and he did a great job. This is why classical music is true art!!
TheSigg91 1 year ago
Ow my God! way of away from PERFORMANCE STUDIES! MOZART was able to make music for sure whatever he was playing music! this is not Music! bulsh** try!
Djoskuner 1 year ago
Please! Sometimes nuts is nuts. If a student brought me such a performance...We know enough about 18th-century performance practice to make informed beautiful music - on fortepiano or modern piano. This is quackery and self-involved crap masquerading behind the mask of "genius".
mheeg99 1 year ago 2
Mgnífico, cada que oigo a Glenn Gould no puedo dejar de asombrarme.
ruskiikoshka 1 year ago
es un bello tema interpretacion de Gould y se necesita mucho para poder hacer una interpretacion diferente de Mozart a la qe normalmente estamos acostumbrados... es un genio !
phortus 1 year ago
I like Glen's interpretations of Bach's WTC, but this really sounds disjunct and lifeless.
HAlghamdi 1 year ago
Again I am reading some of these ridiculous comments. Gould does not change other composers music. What a musician does perform is a close or very close interpretation and makes it their own. Honestly do some of you play an instrument. I always liked Gould's performance no matter what he is playing from Bach to Mozart and others. Music is an artist performance.
bonjovicaroline 1 year ago 4
Disaster...
Fr0ggst3r 1 year ago
No doubt about Gould's touche...but this interpreation is really out of my understanding. Maybe I'm too used to more traditional interpretations, which I defintely prefer, e.g. ?v=XZtxHTSzsT8&feature=related.
rivpaolo 1 year ago
ha ha I get the feeling that he is having a marvelous time playing this piece.
pianoluver192 1 year ago 2
I thank Gould for the healing of my constipation. Now whenever I want to shit I just need to hear him playing this song ...
xurumambo 1 year ago
Glenn could certainly be a little eccentric! He sure manages to makes this his own. I love his Bach playing, but I'll need a little time to warm up to this. But I have a feeling that's exactly the reaction he was looking for.
gregormann7 1 year ago
I love this interpretation... its so earie, so calm and relaxing.
timpanitimptim 1 year ago
when i played it i playd it about 50x faster.
HeartGoldMVP 1 year ago
We should be happy of having many different versions.
Angel94angel94 1 year ago 8
@Angel94angel94 agreed! Well well said.
EMPERORMIKI 6 months ago
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Horrible interpretación. En fin, le sacas de Bach y te hace catástrofes como esta...
Glenn Gould está extremadamente sobrevalorado, por más que busco no encuentro ninguna razón del por qué se le considera un genio; solo era un pianista, y bastante limitado por cierto. Considero que su personalidad peculiar y su "carisma" es lo que le hicieron tan popular.
Liebanus 1 year ago
@Liebanus Bueno, para empezar en el arte no existen horribles o buenas interpretaciones, existe la opinión de cada uno. Y bueno si tuviera que fundamentar el porqué está tan valorado, sencillamente te diría que tiene la mejor técnica pianística que ha existido en la historia documentada del piano. Es capaz de alcanzar velocidades vertiginosas sin equivocarse en una sola nota, eso da valor a una grabación, las hace más perfectas y al menos eso si se puede medir objetivamente.
rolldito 1 year ago
perfekt !!
CHOPIN20101 1 year ago
интересная интерпритация)
dimaobr 2 years ago
yeah.. now i get it...
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quinto34 2 years ago
You should also realise that performance, in itself, is a composition. And a 'gross deviation' from an author's original intentions, is essentially the same as having a 'fresh' composition that was inspired by someone else. So pretty much any music you are familiar with, is somehow 'disrespecting' an author's wishes.
rule914 2 years ago
i agree it's almost a crime to change mozart... but. there are good things in this version as well, and it is a fantasy; he has the right to play it this way
mees04101993 1 year ago
Someone should have the right to play any composition in any way he pleases. You can dislike it because it differs too much from the composer's wishes, or you can dislike it on musical grounds alone, which, in my opinion, is a lot more sensible. Either way, it is the performer's right. Without this right, music would be relatively uniform and bland.
rule914 2 years ago
I'm so baffled. What happened to the "Agitato" in some sections? They really sound like tempo giusto.
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
09de10ce65nt 2 years ago
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An 8th grader at my school played this for his solo in a Solo/Ensemble competition. His version was WAY better.
CJoStudios 2 years ago
of course you are right CJoStudios. i myself had a concert played it there, never played piano before, but you know everyone can play mozart better then gould
kowalsky111 2 years ago
i dislike the staccato notes between the other legato ones and the tempo of course it is very slow that i forgat the phrases.. but i know the power of Gould on the piano so i wont say this is a bad performance this is just a special one.
y1g1tcn 2 years ago 2
What gives him this "power" which other great pianists don't have? He DIDN'T even understand the musical merit of Mozart's music! Do you know he called Mozart "a bad, overrated composer who died too late"?
Mozart's late concertos/symphonies metaphorically kick the ass of Gould's string quartet.
I admire your defense of Gould, but I must say, some of you let favouritism cloud your judgment.
Why bother with his "power" when he himself didn't even understand the power of Mozart...
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
@chopinandliszt
You really don't recognize his different vision here? Doesn't it sound a little like the attack and silence devices of Schoenberg?
Most of what you're saying about Gould applies to YOUR conceptions, but you don't see that..
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@chopinandliszt When you listen to music it is absolutely unimportant what Gould used to say about Mozart and what is the relation between Gould's Quartet and Mozart's concertos/symphonies. It is music itself and nothing more. As a matter of fact I do not like Gould's interpretation of KV 397, but not because he called Mozart overrated etc.
octavian1960 1 year ago
'Should be played' is a killer for any performance (and art in general.. )
You like it or you don't , simple..
I love Gould's Mozart myself, very funny and played with great insight..
Nice touche too, but Gould always has that.
quinto34 2 years ago 19
Well-known physician and great music lover Joseph Frank, who had twelve lessons with Mozart in 1790 and who left the following graphic account:
I found Mozart to be a little man with a broad head and fleshy hands; he received me rather coldly. now, he said, play me something! I played him a fantasia of his own composition. Not bad he said, to my great astonishment, now Ill play it for you. What a marvel! The piano became a completely different instrument under his fingers. (continued)
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
...He had had it amplified by means of a second keyboard, which he used as a pedal. Mozart then MADE A FEW OBSERVATIONS about the WAY IN WHICH I SHOULD PLAY HIS FANTASIA.
(W. A. Mozart By Hermann Abert, Stewart Spencer, Cliff Eisen)
Let me hear from you Michael Jackson liked it played at presto and it can be an acceptable performance. "Should be played" is just a display of respect to composers.
What if Mozart was disturbed by Gould's?
People like you grossly misunderstand this aspect...
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
Speaking of art, there's no rule for how a piece "should be composed" as long as consistent, convincing artistic merit supports it, I suppose. Beethoven added voices to a symphony and Chopin made Scherzo a dark, dramatic single-movement, stand-alone work.
"should be played" is a killer? Why don't you say, composers shouldn't put any meticulous tempo markings on any of their pieces? Because we'll free to ignore them... They're useless, aren't they?
Gould was a fine performer, he made a mistake
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
@quinto34 Good point!!
ykaiilah 1 year ago
@quinto34
VERY ODD...
Great insight?! Into what, if I may ask...
Really silly interpretation. I do not find it funny.
RaraAvisAustralis 1 year ago 2
@RaraAvisAustralis
Nothing odd about it, you don't like it, I do, it's that simple
There is no right or wrong in art.
quinto34 1 year ago
@quinto34 don't talk shit please, the music has it's own method, you can't play Bach like you'll play Chopin and vice versa
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
FAITHFULNESS IN MUSIC. Gould's interpretation may be more faithful to Mozart than others, because it is interpretation of the music while the others are interpretations of interpretations. It is silly to say "it should sound like that" it is not only silly, it is terribly stupid. Because music is forcibly different from what we expect!
kamvysis 2 years ago 13
Thank you very much for you just made me realize this excellent point.
AchilleDebussy 2 years ago
Liszt, who was always improving someone elses music, once played a Chopin Nocturne, adding all kinds of embellishments. Chopin, according to an anecdote that appears in Josef Nowakowskis study, snapped at Liszt, telling him to play the music as written or not play it at all. But the two greatest pianists of their time nevertheless did continue to see each other, and as late as 1848, Chopin was referring to my friend Liszt. (The Lives Of The Great Composers By Harold C. Schonberg)
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
Lots of people misunderstand this "subjective matter in music", they think Mozart, Beethoven etc can be interpreted in any way as long as, say, Michael Jackson liked it that way.
Well, Chopin TOLD Liszt to play his pieces AS WRITTEN or NOT PLAY at all.
Don't just say, Gould stays faithful with Mozart's music. He actually made slanderous remarks about it. It's obvious he freely parodies it. Follow along with the score, if you're a piano player.
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
@kamvysis
Have you ever heard British critic David C F Wright saying, interpretation is NOT freedom of license?
You also contradict yourself, you talk about faithfulness in music, and Gould has the right to twist it as much as he wants, because "it is silly to say "it should sound like that"
The fact that you just call others performances "interpretations of interpretations" just tells us you don't have the ear to hear the musical insight in other pianists' interpretations.
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
The problem is that some people like you always force yourselves to say "good&nice" things about Gould, and get thousands of thumb-ups, no matter how unbalanced your statements are.
This aspect of the public is what Gould hated. That's probably one of the reasons why he said "Mozart was a bad,overrated composer" who died too late.
Gould was still a fine pianist, but he didn't interpret this piece in Mozart's way. Is it so aching for you to admit it? Shallow favoritism, that's what prevents you.
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
@kamvysis
totally agree
fieldspec 1 year ago
@kamvysis
Fuck off, dork. If i started playing this fantasy at drums your theory would work perfectly. You useless nuisance!
VinciLit 1 year ago
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You can can tell Gould truly hated Mozart. Holy mother of god, what a massacre he did with that immortal masterpiece!! I'm still shocked with the rubato, the nonsensical dynamics and tempo, the wooden tone... HS, what a hideous performance!
Didit4daLULZ 2 years ago
Not to be rude, but this playing is not my cup of tea. Sounds wooden to me.
iloveterriers 2 years ago
great
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Aileenk8 2 years ago
What a "Bachish" interpretation of Mozart! Beautiful, though this is not really what Mozart should be played like.
cellofortist 2 years ago 4
OMG ... every Gould video I go to seems to have several ass clowns who seem to think Gould has the magical ability to change other composers music to Bach ...
What horseshit ... can to explain why exactly?
But I can guess—no answer really other than some ass clown made a similar comment and like monkeys other people repeat it with no understanding at all of the claim they must made.
How the fuck is this like Bach ? Jesus christ.
EMPERORMIKI 2 years ago 4
Thank God someone else out there thinks this. Just because Gould interpreted something differently, doesn't mean he interpreted it like he would have interpreted Bach. The man was a lot more intelligent and creative than a lot of you 'omg his bachish interpretation of this non-bachian composer's work is teh best' types give him credit for.
Fallansig 2 years ago
@EMPERORMIKI or the over "Napoleon..." put "This is definitely not the way mozart would have played it..."Just Imagine ! he/she talks & SURE ! about Mozart's...!!! thoughts !?
sam0xin 1 year ago
Well Mozart left us his written notes ... what else could he do? Slap someones ass if they perform a passage incorrectly (assuming all notes as directed are executed)? Music is a fluid thing—something Wolfgang surely understood evidenced by the imposition of his own thought process on tradition resulting in NEW music.
Past tradition obviously wasn't good enough for our dear Mozart ... why then should that be any different now especially with his own music?
EMPERORMIKI 1 year ago
@EMPERORMIKI
"How the fuck is this like Bach?"
I'm talking about his detache style, for the most part.
If you want to argue a point, don't write with an angry tone.
cellofortist 6 months ago
@cellofortist by "his" style I'm assuming you're talking about Gould. So again I ask, how the FUCK is this like Bach? By your response again I assume you mean Gould performs this music in a manner somewhat reminiscent of his Bach interpretations, so again I ask how the FUCK is this like Bach? Being that the same pianist is performing this music and the Bach interpretation you hinted at ... again how the FUCK is this like Bach? Is a "detache" style exclusive to Bach? Obviously not.
EMPERORMIKI 6 months ago
@EMPERORMIKI
I agree.
Pardon me, I grew up listening to Bach played by Gould, and only Gould. His interpretations have been instilled in me to the point that I have a hard time keeping an open mind.
All of this is very debatable.
And I want to clarify: I did not mean to disparage this interpretation of Mozart's fantasia.
(Also, I grew up listening to Mozart played by Uchida and Horowitz, and again, I have a hard time keeping an open mind about Mozart interpretation). Forgive my flawed logic.
cellofortist 6 months ago
@cellofortist well as far as I can tell there are no rules concerning music--there is practice (as in what people do) and if it is widespread enough it can be written down as "theory", and some people will come along and add onto that--like our dear Bach. Same goes for performers. Had Bach paid any heed to the rumblings of the scholars of his day perhaps he wouldn't have written what he did. Music should be progressive--same for interpretations. IMHO.
EMPERORMIKI 6 months ago
A very "interesting variation"
Im not sure if I like it
This is definitely not the way mozart would have played it,
however it does add some flair however much of it was unnecessary like the opening staccato but much of it was fun and refreshing on an old song
Ill might look up more of his variations
what did you guys think?
puresoul35 2 years ago 2
Gould's music portrayed an amount of emotion that is matched by few other pianists, let alone other musicians. He combined unmatched facility was a musicality that I as a pianist envy.
I played this piece at a recital, and borrowed greatly from Gould's interpretation, not because he was greater then I was, but because i felt a connection with this performance.
To those of you who do not like Gould, just keep your mouth shut so that those of us who love him can appreciate his work.
Jragir 2 years ago 2
Feel free to research musical time periods, styles, and be educated before you come on here and comment about how a piece SHOULD have been played.
Unless YOU can play this piece better (or at all), you'd be better off enjoying the gift of music that Glenn Gould has brought to the world and to you.
PianoMusic37 2 years ago 3
Ok, after reading all these comments, maybe it's time to clear the air about a few things.
Maybe this isn't your typical recording of this piece. Get over it. Mozart wasn't typical. Be grateful for different interpretations of pieces so that you don't have to hear the same regurgitated tedium all the time.
There is a huge difference between legato... and pedal usage. Mozartian music comes on the heels of the harpsichord. Relying on the sustain pedal was surely not done as much.
PianoMusic37 2 years ago
different interpretation
yet marvellous
kimcarling 2 years ago
I love this.
Sviatoslav's version is great too, very different though
quinto34 2 years ago
A composer being revolutionary with composition and a performer trying to have his own way are totally different.
If the composer yelled and told him not play it like that, (just like how Chopin did to Liszt) that's the end of it. No questions asked.
It doesn't matter how many people like it that way, say, Micheal Jackson, bunnies, etc. What have you. You name it.
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
@chopinandliszt
you said his music was like a gross.....at least realize that his music is very short but difficult to interpret and that's the point!
TheMagnificentmozart 2 years ago
@chopinandliszt "Don't forget, you as the player might know more about the structure of a piece than the composer" is what Gould once said. It is far-stretched, but has a bit of a point..Nevertheless, you are mostly right..But is it wrong to play it COMPLETELY differently for once? Think of that as well..I'm sure even Chopin would get bored if he heard his nocturne 300 times..Also, Liszt didn't necesserily improve the Nocturne, he just changed it.
CSPlayerDamon 1 year ago
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Gould plays like as a pig
musiccritic1910 2 years ago
You write English "like as" a pig. If the human race makes it to the year 2509, Gould's recordings will still be listened to. You won't even survive as a moldy record in a bureaucrat's office. So STFU.
fiandrhi 2 years ago
I just think this is marvellous
I really do
eeClaytonification 2 years ago 2
War Gould bei dieser Einspielung auf Drogen? ^^
Jetzt mal ohne Flacks.. das kann der doch nicht ernst gemeint haben?! Schlimmer kann man diese Fantasie gar nicht verhunzen.
KevinDorner 2 years ago
I think he played this very well. Mozart made up this piece in public, there for he had to make it very dramatic, parts of it extremely slow because he had to think of what to do next. Also one of the parts of this piece is that Mozart played it rather bratty.
Gloinnlight 2 years ago
Haha, the staccato. Seems like he uses it for every romantic passage that could be played overly sentimentally. Listen to his Beethoven Pathetique second movement, same kind of staccato first time the theme is played. Each subsequent time the them is played, there's less and less staccato, and more and more beautiful, so it's definitely by choice.
Whatever he does, you can't accuse him of not thinking over a piece enough. Great recording.
vanimea 2 years ago 2
You see, cads don't think, they are mentally impaired
musiccritic1910 2 years ago
i think he looks straight into mozart, sensing his true emotion behind his music, maybe exposing the "true" mozart. maybe mozarts feelings behind this, were covered and put forward in a more "stronger" way. ripping the "mask" away, in that we hide the true feelings. maybe mozart masked his music also that way and gould exposed it, who knows...
arjuna6667 2 years ago 2
Don't like this interpretation. Though I am a fan of Gould, this version is far to staccato. The first section was particulary painful to listen to, seriously; was he using NO PEDAL in that first section? When it cleary indicates it to be played legato? I admire people who deviate from the way a piece is intended to be played, but this is just crazy, in my opinion. Way to slow aswell.
losinggrip1993 2 years ago
Is this really Glen Gould? O.o ... It really doesn't sound like him... 'specially cuz I don't hear the mumbling that he usually does while he plays interpretations ...
It's not that bad though. Just a bit outside box ^__^'
HateshinaiKaisou 2 years ago
it si glenn ....if you want to hear the mumbling you can hear it at 0:39
mmooccaarrtt 2 years ago
I guess then you've never once heard Gould play Mozart.
Whatever one thinks of this performance, it could not be more conspicuously self-evident that it is he.
Gould's idiosyncrasies are unmistakable and inimitable.
polymath7 2 years ago
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May be every time he played he wanted to go to the toilet, gyus...that is why Gould was mumbling that...I think
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WolfgangusMozartus 2 years ago
This can't be Gould... or he was competely drunk.
gdispaux 2 years ago
Играет точно Г.Гульд. Сомнений нет, так как слышно подпевание. Его стиль исполнения, отличающийся от других...
69Eagleowl 2 years ago
hilarious, and true, this hurts to listen to.
Gnaeus1 2 years ago
I love some of Gould's interpretations, but dear Lord...he misses the mark here by an entire galaxy!
Apparently he didn't like Mozart's music very much. As such, I have to wonder: was this a joke?! This is the most somnolescent interpretation you will ever hear of this piece.
MaestroTJS 2 years ago
Wow.... I love Glenn Gould but Jesus Fucking Christ... this sounds like a harpsichordist on quaaludes... oh well I still love this interpretation for how in your face it is.
davidofpiano423 2 years ago