Viruses, Mac OS X, and File Permissions

[MrSaggat]

one word : Linux.

[Iivaitte]

if you reply to this, your a moron who thinks that  u can convince people to switch to a broken system by making a comment on a video on youtube.

the fact of the matter is, people zealot over macs......,why, if they didnt NEED defending, then why are you defending the system, steve jobs is a marketer, he specializes in selling things, and thats the only thing his company is good at.

Im pretty sure the mac Nazis are gonna get me now.

[bibbler227]

@Iivaitte This video was obviously WAY over your head. Let's face it, you don't have the education or brains to understand this video so you just start ranting your PC Fanboy nonsense (Zealot, Nazis, Steve Jobs)....

I don't need to convince anyone of anything. I was building my own PCs, administering in UNIX, and programming in C when you were in diapers kid. Run off now and play computer games on your BIG BOY Windows PC.

[Iivaitte]

@bibbler227 whatever, this conversation didnt start this way and I really didnt want to go in this direction, you call me a kid, but just by replying you have shown that my comment effects you, a 50 year old man, I didnt say "everyone" zealots over mac, but a lot indeed do, Steve jobs is in fact a marketer, all I was trying to do was debunk the mac myths in one paragraph and address the problem, the systems fine, I honestly dont give a shit, its the smug attitude of the consumer I hate.

[bibbler227]

@Iivaitte No, your comments didn't "bother me" not did you "debunk" anything. You just spewed out a bunch of nonsensical insults. My judgment that OS X is superior is based on years of experience and a deep knowledge of the inter-workings of the OS, not the bunch of shit that you posted. (Zealots, Nazis, "The only thing his company is good at").... Bottom line is, you have no idea what you're talking about. Go play games kid on your pretty BIG BOY PC.

[Iivaitte]

@bibbler227 your not even listening to what im saying, when there is a machine you ave a goal, if that goal can be met, your machine has served its purpose, then there's also costs vs effectiveness, if you get more work out of it than the money you put into it, then it has served its goal effectively.

I honestly dont think its worth the price, and I think he mac consumers need to chill thats my only point.

[Iivaitte]

@Iivaitte while Im at it, let me state I never once addressed computers running windows as "PCs"

that statement alone is ignorant, furthermore Im not a fan of windows, Im a fan of computers.

linux requires work, macintosh is to expensive, so in my opinion windows is most cost and time effective.

and lastly, you yourself have shown the ugly smug attitude I have talked about, everything from "BIG BOY windows PC" to your flaunting about "deep-knowlage"

[itachisxeyes]

I disagree with the market share argument. The fact is Unix and Unix-like operating systems dominate the market, all markets except for the home workstation. If you really wanted a target rich environment you would target Unix.

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[fipsfoxy]

The day my "OSX is 100% secure" utopia died, was when i had my proof of concept trojan horse applescript finished - and that one didn't require root privileges to run. And i have to mention, i had absolutely NO coding background - asking myself what some seriously skilled guys could do.

uploaded a proof of concept video a while ago, if you wan't to see how it "works".

[maw88ify]

Linux, and PC-BSD however can run on almost any PC ... This means that Apple is not in any way the only ones not to get viruses ... Plus if a Windows user was just to sand-box they would get viruses, and wouldn't need anti-virus software... I know because I have Linux Ubuntu , and many other Linux , and BSD OSes and they just don't get viruses... and the Windows I have is sand-boxed and it never gets viruses...

[RaverAmbitions]

@maw88ify

Mac OS X is 100% sandboxed.

[Iivaitte]

@RaverAmbitions yeah fucking right, windows is build like a web, mac like a tower.

if one of windows strings get cut there is still a few strings keeping it up.

in mac, just like janga, just pull a brick and watch it tumble.

[RaverAmbitions]

@Iivaitte

Kid, you have no idea what your talking about. Give me evidence of this statement and we will talk.

[fr1chise]

Isn't Mr. Bits prime statement contrary to the multiple lawsuits that Apple and Microsoft filed back and forth?

[overclockedtech]

I agree with you concerning the good security design that Unix was built on.

market share really doesn't matter for exploiters, what matters it the security design of the system. If it is easy, then the exploits will appear.

[dnddays]

cool story bro

[1969vonchita]

why do every time I do update I get so much files that need repair, when I run repair permissions, it dont fix.

why is this happening, do this have to do with key chains??

[d3f4c3d]

there are thousands of exploits for macintosh -

mac's "buletproof" security is just a myth for halfbrains stupid little company bosses thinking they are system security professionals

[Xilmwa]

So patch it, and recompile the kernel. You can do that.

[Xilmwa]

The word Mac typically refers more to the operating system, Mac OS X, instead of the hardware itself. At least in this case it does.

[AppleTecFan]

even if you put windows on a mac, and windows gets the virus it would not touch mac os x because it 2 hard dirve

[Superfreaxx]

@commodore256

Even if a Mac has a Windows partition with 9000 viruses. Not one of those Viruses could come even close to touching OSX.

[cstacy]

Nobody said that Leap-A was "harmless", so your strawman argument fails. Your second strawman, "a lot of inexperienced users flock to the Mac" implies that not a lot of inexperienced users flock to Windows. I suspect that more *experienced* users run Mac than Windows, even. The fact is, on the Mac you have to deliberately download malware, run it, and give it permission to run. On Windows, you get viruses merely by visiting web pages, exchanging documents, etc. or just plugging into the net.

[highhow]

but that is because the people are unexperienced and just go around on the internet looking for porn and in the temp. doucument it makes it has a virus attached to it and that can be transfered by going into the shared doucuments folder then spreading to other computers on the same network and on OS X it could be the same. so thats why many people turn to the mac so they waln't get viruses when they watch porn and the mac must have been designed for retards (unexprienced users) who do that.

[Superfreaxx]

@highhow

While you are correct, saying that a user can avoid getting a virus by using common sense. The assumption that the foundations of OSX's design had anything to do with the intelligence of its users is flat out wrong. OSX is derived from a well known OS called UNIX, which was mostly designed for networking purposes and as such security was and still is a very high priority.

[Superfreaxx]

@highhow

Security was never seriously considered in the early versions of Windows, as they were designed for home computers at a time when the World Wide Web hadnt caught on, and such security later came as an afterthought. Rather than continuing the Mac OS line, Apple abandoned Mac OS and started off from scratch using by UNIX as the foundation for OSX. By having a stable and reliable OS at its core, OSX has a vastly superior design to Windows, which Microsoft struggles to modernize.

[mrbit10]

wow, just found this vid, i know its late but it was side linked to a video on root. Thanks very much for the shout out!!!

[X1R3R1X420]

Thank you for the informative video. I appreciate your insight on macosx root info. Do you have any recommendations on security applications for the root access? What do you think of the iron key usb flash drive?

[formaset]

Man, you really know your shit! I wish I had that knolwedge!

[nubcake531]

windows is dos and its os makes it easier to manipulate.. mac is harder.. but it still DOES have some malware

[efpro]

yeah mac can get viruses

[dell1032]

From The MacObserver:

"Leap-A is not a virus, it is malicious software that requires a user to download the application and execute the resulting file. Leap-A is merely an attempt to disguise an executable program as an image in effort to trick the recipient into launching the program. Launching a program in Mac OS X requires the user to enter their password, an indicator that should clue most users into the fact that it is not what it appears to be." Your comment is misleading.

[streetwalker88]

I like ur videos =)

[Btroisi13]

GREAT VIDEO!

[raideronline]

thank you for this video.

[tjasko1]

Great video! Extremely useful to all the people who are using Unix Based OS's. In some cases, you can even log into as the root user, and change anything. But when you do that, you are extremely prone to Viruses. Wouldn't recommend it...

[pbfreak57]

great video, awesome explanation, thanks that was really good

[drumitar]

great vid !

[ezadsms]

Its very-very dangerous, to delate but nice video. I love mac

[DavinTerrizzi]

Very nice video. I love UNIX.

[sonypsp0009]

awesome video , and great explanation !