Do you have figures to show the indigenous UK population is receding?
If we let millions of immigrants live here on the grounds of paying our pensions what will we do when the millions of immigrants reach pension age? Import millions more immigrants? A never ending circle and non-sustainable.
@zurich1935 I meant Scotland, I'm not sure of the UK figures, I really don't mind immigrants as long as they are kind and friendly, at least I'd rather deal with a polite immigrant than an impolite scottish ned or english scally ... my experience at uni of people from other countries has all been positive not negative.
Well, our pensions are UK based so it's the UK indigenous population as a whole you should be looking at, not Scotland on it's own.
As for saying we should let immigrants in because we are exploiting the third world, every country in the world has its own government, the sustainable answer is to educate these foreign governments to establish decent social policies for their people, the unsustainable answer is to continue to import into the UK millions of immigrants.
Zurich I don't believe in borders or countries because I oppose the state as an institution for governing affairs because it is very poor at it. I would prefer that people ran their own communities and elections (were they to be held) would be held at the most local level feesible and according to the prefences of the people affected by those decisions and the
a border is just a line drawn on a map, who has the right to say who can cross it?
True, the state is a poor institution for governing our affairs, in fact if you look at politicians worldwide, from Stalin to Hitler, from Chairman Mao to Khmer Rouge to Mugabe, all they did was ruin millions of peoples lives.
On a rather lesser level the current political climate in the UK is to import millions of immigrants to the detriment of the indigenous people, we have 2.5 million unemployed, why let more immigrants in when jobs and housing are scarce?
@zurich1935 a lot of people are unemployed because of a dependence mentality created by our current welfare system (Please view my video Corporatism and Reforming the Welfare State for a more sane alternative)
Immigrants should not affect the number of jobs available since if they are working they also have an income which means they stimulate demand creating employment there is plenty to do we could find jobs for everyone if we tried - looking after the elderly and repairing the ecosystem
@RevolutionaryJam That's true, the benefits culture encourages people not to work. The government encourages immigrants to come in and take jobs instead of getting tough with benefit scroungers.
A lot of the income generated by immigrants is sent abroad, it is not spent in this country. Poland and the Philippines are both known for high receipts from their workers abroad.
We have 2.5 million unemployed, how can anyone support more immigrants taking jobs here?
@zurich1935 also housing is not scarce per se, what has happened since the 70s is that the government has artificially lowered interest rates, creating a greater demand for housing because people could risk loans they wouldn't have been able to risk if the interest on them regulated by the market., cause of this the price of houses is artifically high so no one can afford them, but they don't want to bring them down to normal either because people will have lost on their investments and default
If you look at interest rates in Europe and America since the 70's you will find that the UK has always had much higher interest rates, so that disproves the lowering interest rate theory.
The only thing that fuels house price rises is demand and supply, if too many people are chasing too few houses then the prices rise. The reason houses are so expensive in the UK is that supply is low and demand is high, so more immigrants simply add to the demand for housing.
@zurich1935 yes the UK has had higher interest rates than other places in the world which gave us a "strong currency" in the past, but actually I mean in relation to the Market value of lending money, type in "fiat currency" or "Money as debt" into youtube there is a lot of stink about this, infact i'll send you one video about it
all the world has been falsely regulating interest rates and that been a major cause of the housing bubble and economic crisis
Like Fondoogle, he is a moron and will argue endlessly and stupidly just to drive you nuts.
He also claimed Jesus is European.
He said Jesus is Roman.
He said Jesus was not born in Asia.
It is this class of moron you are trying to futilely educate. He's here to poison and smear your good cause- worse than any disease that ravages entire forests -besides mankind's greed.
I have never claimed Jesus is European. I simply stated that at the time Jesus was born the concept of anyone been Asian did not exist.
I never said Jesus was Roman, I said he was born in the Roman Empire. Christianity first developed in the Roman Empire, so to claim Christianity as having developed in the Asia we know today is disingenuous.
I have asked you repeatedly to back your claims that Asia was mapped and existed at the time of Jesus, you cannot back your claims.
Simply look in Wikipedia for an opinion that is not mine, you can hardly call Wiki a nest of BNP fascists.
Look at the Jesus page and the Christianity page.
The Jesus page clearly states that Jesus is considered to have been a Roman Empire National and a Jew. The concept of being Asian did not exist at that time.
The Christianity page clearly states that Christianity first thrived in the Roman Empire, I'm sorry but the Roman Empire was European, not Asian.
If you look in Wikipedia on the "Roman Empire" page you will see the region where Jesus was born.
He was clearly born in the European Roman Empire and would not have been regarded as Asian, just as the Scottish people of that time were not regarded as British.
I do hope you will not accuse Wiki of being Fascists!
yes- he's going bananas now that everyone is publicly laughing at him.
I could if I wanted go back six months where Zurickets actually conceded in his own words that Jesus was Asian....
But instead I went along with his insisting I show proof and destroy his babble conclusively. The result of this shameful egging of his face ; not surprisingly- more ranting squawking.
J'étais dans N.A. et A.A. pendant 20 ans sur et en dehors, et je sais l'énorme pression qu'il peut mettre sur une personne. les pensées dans votre tête,
les émotions sauvagement déplacement et de la sensibilité qui peut faire de petites choses semblent sismiques à l'échelle
@slizzler1 I know you have your disagreements with Zurich, as do I, but if you're going to debate him on my channel please do it politely, or take it to private messages if you can't. I don't really care what anyones position is as long as they will debate politely, this video has nothing to do with the BNP or Jesus either.
actually I was done with him here a week ago. Plus- as you surmised already- there's no debating him. He's only on YT to push a racist agenda for the BNP.
@slizzler1 fair play, well he gave a fair crack on my video about the welfare state he doesn't seem beyond reasoning with. That fondoogle dude is openly racist.
well yes; hearing fondoodoo's 'tree hugging hippy' idiocy at your superb cause put me in a no-quarters mood with him; both he and zurich have a one way agenda in everything they do online- promote right wing absurdity.... lol, if you saw Zurich yelling in an anti-bnp clip in insisting Jesus was a 'Roman national/ European' for 6 months- you'll see his reasoning capacity....
I'm not in the UK -but I favourited your great clip.
By the way,
that
fondoogle
person slandering you....
He's a neo nazi degenerate retard who is voting for the BNP. He also slurs senior citizens on YT from behind the safety of his computer screen- but I have to laugh him off. I can imagine how if I had his chicken neck in my hands he's be squawking a different song- along the lines of 'please forgive me Sir'.
@slizzler1 everyone is welcome on the channel as long as they are polite to other members I've only ever blocked one person, sometimes we had BNP who were perfectly polite and so we disagree with them but if they want to be here and oppose the war etc. they are not condemned
I agree this fondoogle appears do be a degenerate, if he thinks doing anything to help the environment is a waste of time and anyone recommending it should "get a job."
yes- exactly- I think the racists and hatemongers are the best promotion of why it is best to bring up future generations free of that hate mentality, but as you know, that ban button is perfect for hate spammers. Fondoogle and Zurich have both said vile things and spammed hatemongering elsewhere- purely just to spread hate - just forewarning you of their typical mode of activity online.
@slizzler1 Zurich has been well behaved so far, people usually have their own reasons for holding their views to cure you must understand. That involves showing the traits you prize such as kindness and good manners to all, although I lose it sometimes as well!: If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people [whose views] we despise, we don't believe in it at all"
Revolutionary Jim should just ban you from the clip right away.
He doesn't know you are a neo nazi spammer on youtube who spreads pure hate and malicious right wing crap on YT.
Tell Jim the truth- you work for a company and get overpaid- and as well it doesn't care if you are educated since on YT you proved your english skills are not even 1st Form competency.
RevolutionaryJim -just ban the neo-nazi creep from your excellent progressive clip. Fondoogle is human pollution.
Well tell your hippy friend to stop sending me hippy videos when this country is about 99% countryside and Leicester is filled with brownies, not that any of this concerns you as you're not English or living in England.
GREAT work! More trees are needed EVERYWHERE to help restore the frayed eco-system. Absolutely everywhere they can be planted.
SusieLee09 2 months ago
Thanks for sharing this.2011 is The International Year of Forests.Lets hope a hell of a lot of trees get planted.
19HurdyGurdyMan46 1 year ago
great joice of music
sabelmouse 1 year ago
@sabelmouse thanks! I love that song!
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
It's a good idea to comuniocate it to all of us
Thx a lot
may be
bye
max
Massimodem 1 year ago
great video
tagzee 1 year ago
@tagzee thanks
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
bless
*****
lorenzojhwh 1 year ago
@lorenzojhwh thankyou
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
Bit late just now but I will definately make vid about this tomorrow.
FriendOregon 1 year ago
@FriendOregon thanks so much! it's cool there are weeks all April and May so there is enough time for people to plan, or they can go in August
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
Holly crap only 1% remains?
FriendOregon 1 year ago
@FriendOregon well, thats how we've looked after it so far...
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
The forests are disappearing as fast as the indigenous people and culture of Scotland, tree chopped down and towns full of immigrants.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 we have a receding population and so we need some migrants workers if we are to afford to pay our pensioners.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam "we have a receding population and so we need some migrants workers if we are to afford to pay our pensioners."
I see, what makes you think the indigenous population is receding? I thought the indigenous population was increasing at a low rate?
What will happen when millions of immigrants reach pension age, do we again import millions of immigrants to support the first lot of immigrants?
A never ending circle. We'll end up with more immigrants than indigenous people.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
Do you have figures to show the indigenous UK population is receding?
If we let millions of immigrants live here on the grounds of paying our pensions what will we do when the millions of immigrants reach pension age? Import millions more immigrants? A never ending circle and non-sustainable.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 I meant Scotland, I'm not sure of the UK figures, I really don't mind immigrants as long as they are kind and friendly, at least I'd rather deal with a polite immigrant than an impolite scottish ned or english scally ... my experience at uni of people from other countries has all been positive not negative.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
Well, our pensions are UK based so it's the UK indigenous population as a whole you should be looking at, not Scotland on it's own.
As for saying we should let immigrants in because we are exploiting the third world, every country in the world has its own government, the sustainable answer is to educate these foreign governments to establish decent social policies for their people, the unsustainable answer is to continue to import into the UK millions of immigrants.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 fair point in the first
Zurich I don't believe in borders or countries because I oppose the state as an institution for governing affairs because it is very poor at it. I would prefer that people ran their own communities and elections (were they to be held) would be held at the most local level feesible and according to the prefences of the people affected by those decisions and the
a border is just a line drawn on a map, who has the right to say who can cross it?
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
True, the state is a poor institution for governing our affairs, in fact if you look at politicians worldwide, from Stalin to Hitler, from Chairman Mao to Khmer Rouge to Mugabe, all they did was ruin millions of peoples lives.
On a rather lesser level the current political climate in the UK is to import millions of immigrants to the detriment of the indigenous people, we have 2.5 million unemployed, why let more immigrants in when jobs and housing are scarce?
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 a lot of people are unemployed because of a dependence mentality created by our current welfare system (Please view my video Corporatism and Reforming the Welfare State for a more sane alternative)
Immigrants should not affect the number of jobs available since if they are working they also have an income which means they stimulate demand creating employment there is plenty to do we could find jobs for everyone if we tried - looking after the elderly and repairing the ecosystem
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam That's true, the benefits culture encourages people not to work. The government encourages immigrants to come in and take jobs instead of getting tough with benefit scroungers.
A lot of the income generated by immigrants is sent abroad, it is not spent in this country. Poland and the Philippines are both known for high receipts from their workers abroad.
We have 2.5 million unemployed, how can anyone support more immigrants taking jobs here?
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 also housing is not scarce per se, what has happened since the 70s is that the government has artificially lowered interest rates, creating a greater demand for housing because people could risk loans they wouldn't have been able to risk if the interest on them regulated by the market., cause of this the price of houses is artifically high so no one can afford them, but they don't want to bring them down to normal either because people will have lost on their investments and default
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
If you look at interest rates in Europe and America since the 70's you will find that the UK has always had much higher interest rates, so that disproves the lowering interest rate theory.
The only thing that fuels house price rises is demand and supply, if too many people are chasing too few houses then the prices rise. The reason houses are so expensive in the UK is that supply is low and demand is high, so more immigrants simply add to the demand for housing.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 yes the UK has had higher interest rates than other places in the world which gave us a "strong currency" in the past, but actually I mean in relation to the Market value of lending money, type in "fiat currency" or "Money as debt" into youtube there is a lot of stink about this, infact i'll send you one video about it
all the world has been falsely regulating interest rates and that been a major cause of the housing bubble and economic crisis
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
Zurich is another BNP fascist.
Like Fondoogle, he is a moron and will argue endlessly and stupidly just to drive you nuts.
He also claimed Jesus is European.
He said Jesus is Roman.
He said Jesus was not born in Asia.
It is this class of moron you are trying to futilely educate. He's here to poison and smear your good cause- worse than any disease that ravages entire forests -besides mankind's greed.
slizzler1 1 year ago
@slizzler1
Sigh.
I have never claimed Jesus is European. I simply stated that at the time Jesus was born the concept of anyone been Asian did not exist.
I never said Jesus was Roman, I said he was born in the Roman Empire. Christianity first developed in the Roman Empire, so to claim Christianity as having developed in the Asia we know today is disingenuous.
I have asked you repeatedly to back your claims that Asia was mapped and existed at the time of Jesus, you cannot back your claims.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@slizzler1
Simply look in Wikipedia for an opinion that is not mine, you can hardly call Wiki a nest of BNP fascists.
Look at the Jesus page and the Christianity page.
The Jesus page clearly states that Jesus is considered to have been a Roman Empire National and a Jew. The concept of being Asian did not exist at that time.
The Christianity page clearly states that Christianity first thrived in the Roman Empire, I'm sorry but the Roman Empire was European, not Asian.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@slizzler1
If you look in Wikipedia on the "Roman Empire" page you will see the region where Jesus was born.
He was clearly born in the European Roman Empire and would not have been regarded as Asian, just as the Scottish people of that time were not regarded as British.
I do hope you will not accuse Wiki of being Fascists!
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935
Time to shut your gob on the matter, BNP fascist.
Stop spamming crap everywhere about Jesus being a 'European Roman national'.
You are not looking like an idiot now as much as a disturbed lunatic.
Try to have some small pride.
slizzler1 1 year ago
quote@slizzler1 "Stop spamming crap everywhere about Jesus being a 'European Roman national'.
Just look in Wiki, Jesus is described as a national of the Roman Empire!
Are you saying that Wiki is spamming crap?
Are you saying the Roman Empire was not European?
Are you an utter nutcase?
zurich1935 1 year ago
sliz -
oh looks like this zurichsth is another nationalist stupid retard denying facts just to say that Jesus was " pure white" or sth ?
Lultz
inevergiveup1402 1 year ago
@inevergiveup1402
yes- he's going bananas now that everyone is publicly laughing at him.
I could if I wanted go back six months where Zurickets actually conceded in his own words that Jesus was Asian....
But instead I went along with his insisting I show proof and destroy his babble conclusively. The result of this shameful egging of his face ; not surprisingly- more ranting squawking.
slizzler1 1 year ago
J'étais dans N.A. et A.A. pendant 20 ans sur et en dehors, et je sais l'énorme pression qu'il peut mettre sur une personne. les pensées dans votre tête,
les émotions sauvagement déplacement et de la sensibilité qui peut faire de petites choses semblent sismiques à l'échelle
Texxwhomever 1 year ago
TEXXTHECLONE - i beg ur pardon ? Could u repeat this in intelligible language pls, French or English, as u like but INTELLIGIBLE ,thx
Drunk again ??
Ever noticed that the google translator gives shitty results ? LOL
inevergiveup1402 1 year ago
@inevergiveup1402 si les femmes ne pouvaient se voir comme je les vois
(Être seul pendant 8 ans m'a montré comment les femmes à apprécier de manière plus.?
Je les ai toujours beaucoup aimé, beaucoup plus que les hommes, mais le temps est alimenté mon imagination Merci à la solitude)
Heroin much Marie...Heroins hahahahhaahah stupid whore..
Texxwhomever 1 year ago
@slizzler1 I know you have your disagreements with Zurich, as do I, but if you're going to debate him on my channel please do it politely, or take it to private messages if you can't. I don't really care what anyones position is as long as they will debate politely, this video has nothing to do with the BNP or Jesus either.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
actually I was done with him here a week ago. Plus- as you surmised already- there's no debating him. He's only on YT to push a racist agenda for the BNP.
slizzler1 1 year ago
@slizzler1 fair play, well he gave a fair crack on my video about the welfare state he doesn't seem beyond reasoning with. That fondoogle dude is openly racist.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
well yes; hearing fondoodoo's 'tree hugging hippy' idiocy at your superb cause put me in a no-quarters mood with him; both he and zurich have a one way agenda in everything they do online- promote right wing absurdity.... lol, if you saw Zurich yelling in an anti-bnp clip in insisting Jesus was a 'Roman national/ European' for 6 months- you'll see his reasoning capacity....
slizzler1 1 year ago
I'm not in the UK -but I favourited your great clip.
By the way,
that
fondoogle
person slandering you....
He's a neo nazi degenerate retard who is voting for the BNP. He also slurs senior citizens on YT from behind the safety of his computer screen- but I have to laugh him off. I can imagine how if I had his chicken neck in my hands he's be squawking a different song- along the lines of 'please forgive me Sir'.
slizzler1 1 year ago
@slizzler1 everyone is welcome on the channel as long as they are polite to other members I've only ever blocked one person, sometimes we had BNP who were perfectly polite and so we disagree with them but if they want to be here and oppose the war etc. they are not condemned
I agree this fondoogle appears do be a degenerate, if he thinks doing anything to help the environment is a waste of time and anyone recommending it should "get a job."
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
yes- exactly- I think the racists and hatemongers are the best promotion of why it is best to bring up future generations free of that hate mentality, but as you know, that ban button is perfect for hate spammers. Fondoogle and Zurich have both said vile things and spammed hatemongering elsewhere- purely just to spread hate - just forewarning you of their typical mode of activity online.
slizzler1 1 year ago
@slizzler1 Zurich has been well behaved so far, people usually have their own reasons for holding their views to cure you must understand. That involves showing the traits you prize such as kindness and good manners to all, although I lose it sometimes as well!: If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people [whose views] we despise, we don't believe in it at all"
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
quotes@slizzler1
"neo nazi degenerate retard"
"I can imagine how if I had his chicken neck in my hands he's be squawking a different song"
Just listen to yourself, just mindless insults full of hate, no wonder people such as you have a bad reputation.
zurich1935 1 year ago
quote@slizzler1 "I'm not in the UK"
Thank god for that!!
zurich1935 1 year ago
get a job you god damn hippy.
fondoogle 1 year ago
@fondoogle no thanks I'm self employed and prefer it that way
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@fondoogle
Revolutionary Jim should just ban you from the clip right away.
He doesn't know you are a neo nazi spammer on youtube who spreads pure hate and malicious right wing crap on YT.
Tell Jim the truth- you work for a company and get overpaid- and as well it doesn't care if you are educated since on YT you proved your english skills are not even 1st Form competency.
RevolutionaryJim -just ban the neo-nazi creep from your excellent progressive clip. Fondoogle is human pollution.
slizzler1 1 year ago
@slizzler1
Well tell your hippy friend to stop sending me hippy videos when this country is about 99% countryside and Leicester is filled with brownies, not that any of this concerns you as you're not English or living in England.
fondoogle 1 year ago
@fondoogle brownies is a racist term, one more strike and you're out.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
quote@slizzler1 "Revolutionary Jim should just ban you from the clip right away"
So speaks the voice of tolerance!
zurich1935 1 year ago
Cool, I was just thinking I wanted to plant some trees.
givebirthathome 1 year ago
I0m not an UK subscriber, but i would like to support your efforts by commenting and rating atleast..Bona fortuna!
TitoIsTheGreatest 1 year ago
@TitoIsTheGreatest thankyou, support is always most welcome andl appreciated :-) maybe you can find something equivalent closer to home! :-)
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago