Did Jesus Die on the cross? Part 3; BBC Documentary

[EdM021]

"In the Temple of Solomon there used to be an inscription made in 50 AD of yus Asaf claiming to be Jesus"

There USED to be?! What happened to it?

[adamisking666]

no1 has seen jesus just read or heard the story no1 has seen adam just read or heard story even after his crucification i have seen endless christians who are in pain,agony,dispair and non judgemental about life and are facing problems in life even after believing jesus or reading bible scriptures... how sad but true even muslims, jews, hindus or aetheistic they all are not complete and in pain is physical or mental..god is our ego.. we need someone to blame, share, and rejoice our emotions .

[ashbrauw]

none has ever arise from the dead,including Jesus.

[coinkiro]

true believers doesnt requires any prove regarding Jesus sacrifice n rebirth.....v still believe on our Lord....the Jesus.....who was crucified n went to Lord...n ll come $ our Justice

[TheGreatKurd]

@coinkiro no proof just faith is it. well in islam there is proof and faith. i invite you to islam

[JesusPassedAway]

@12345bloch Brother according to the teachings of Quran and hadith, all prophets including Jesus (as) have passed away. It is true that in hadiths we see the mention of "Isa Ibn Maryam" coming, but that is not about the same Jesus of Nazareth who came for the people of Israel more than 2000 years ago. Holy Prophet also prophesied about Muslims of this time to become like Jews of the time of Jesus. So for such Muslims the remedy had to be in LIKENESS of Jesus. That "Jesus" has already come!

[tommikins1]

in the Quran, "I have lifted him up to a lofty paradise". Says it all.

[JesusPassedAway]

@tommikins1 Brother, Quran doesn't say that Jesus was lifted physically to a lofty paradise. It only negates the idea that his enemies were able to achieve their wishes i.e. to see Jesus dying an accursed death and hence be proven a liar. God says in the Quran that they were neither able to kill him on cross nor otherwise, he was only made to look like one dead and that God rather raised him (his rank and honour) against the wishes of his enemies that he be accursed. His enemies were accursed.

[73geneva]

@JesusPassedAway Your Quran is false; Jesus died and rose again.

[JesusPassedAway]

@73geneva Quran says that Jesus died but not on the cross. He also rose after death but not in literal sense but in the sense that souls of all the dead are resurrected. Even careful study of Bible (as we see in this documentary also) shows that Jesus never died on the cross rather he survived this accursed death on the cross. God saved His chosen one from this accursed death. God is Great.

[73geneva]

@JesusPassedAway Lie! Quran says Jesus never died that He was taken to heaven and will die when He comes back; 'Careful study of Bible' you mean, twisting of the Bible. Jesus said emphatically, many times that He'd die and rise again. Eg. Matthew 16:21. From that time forth began Jesus to show unto His disciples how that he shall go to Jerusalem and shall suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes and be KILLED and shall rise again the third day.

What are you talking about?

[JesusPassedAway]

@73geneva Please don't issue verdicts on issues that you have no knowledge of. Quran and sayings of Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) make it very clear that Jesus is dead like all other prophets. Quran only denies his accursed death either on the cross or his killing in some other way. Quran talks about his spiritual raising in rank and honour, just like it does about all chosen ones of God. Now lets talk about the so called "prophecy" of Jesus that he would die and then rise on the third day...

[JesusPassedAway]

...I will now prove to you that this passage is a later addition into the Bible. Lets analyse this carefully. So Jesus apparently made such a clear prophecy. The prophecy was apparently so clear that even the enemies knew it very well. They apparently even posted two guards outside his room-like grave in case his disciples take it away and pronounce his raising! Bible tells us that not even a single disciple of his even remotely ever remembered that "prophecy"...

[JesusPassedAway]

...if Jesus had really made such a clear cut prophecy about his going to Jerusalem, his suffering at the hands of elders and priests, his killing and then literal raising on the third day from the dead, then common sense suggests that atleast one of Jesus' disciples should have remembered the prophecy from the very moment when Jesus was on the trial etc. especially when even his "enemies" apparently knew of the prophecy. Read Bible critically and you will find truth also.

[73geneva]

@JesusPassedAway The disciples were afraid. In fact after Jesus rose from the dead the first thing He did was to rebuke them for not believing He had risen. They were just ordinary men who could not believe their master could be killed so shamefully after all the miracles. But after Jesus rose, showing them the scars on His hands, this very men turned around and began to spread the Gospel of Jesus round the world. They initially doubted, just as you doubt today but I am hee to help you.

[73geneva]

@JesusPassedAway Now I wonder which Muslim sect you belong. Islam teaches that Jesus never died, that God took Him to heaven alive. They say He will return to destroy the Antichrist after which He will die.

[violetta23100]

@73geneva yes..it is treu..to all the people wether your words are true are lie..remember Allah is watching you and you wilk be responsible for what you saying.which you wil be witnessed later on in the judgement day..peace be upon you my sisters and brothers.true belivers wil never defeated by any words.because his stregth is come sfrom Allah,may Allah bless us in our Da'qwa.ameen.

[somlud]

This is a shallow documentary. If Jesus wasn't dead, the spear that pierced him would not release a sudden flow of blood and water. Also how did he move a 2 ton stone? How did the guards fall asleep when they would face death for such failures? Also, the old testament is clear on many occasions he is the Son of God, he sits at the right hand of God, and his Kingdom is eternal.

[JesusPassedAway]

@somlud Well, sudden flow of blood indicates an active heart of Jesus and not his death my friend. Water came with blood because of the medical condition known as "wet pluerisy" (google it if you don't know about it). Who weighed the stone as being 2 tons? Also you are forgetting the earthquake that might have helped it to slip from its place even if it was that heavy. Why were the guards standing there? I will prove it to you that this is an interpolation in the bible!

[islamfalse]

@JesusPassedAway My friend dont talk as if you know much.. The soldiers in charge of execution were specialists in capital punishment, and crucifixion was one of the most brutal forms of execution in history.The earthquake happened when he gave up his spirit not after his body was put in the tomb.The guards ensured that the tomb was secure, and their lives depended upon completion of their mission. Only the resurrection of the Son of God could have stayed them from their task.

[JesusPassedAway]

@islamfalse What were the guards doing outside the tomb? Where were they guarding? A dead body that might run away? Explain to me the reason and I will prove to you how that part of the text where it has been mentioned that guards were there outside is an interpolation.

[islamfalse]

@JesusPassedAway "The chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate, saying, "Sir, we remember, while He was still alive, said, `After three days I will rise.' Therefore command that the tomb be made secure until the third day, lest His disciples come by night and steal Him away....(Matt 27:62-64).Now, do you know why Jesus tomb was gurarded?Please dont ask me silly questions!!!

[JesusPassedAway]

@islamfalse Well take it easy bro, this "silly" question is going to give you a lot of room to think and analyse your beliefs again. I knew the answer already, I wanted you to explain it so that people watching here can also judge right from wrong. So the guards and enemies knew about the apparent prophecy of Jesus about his literal "raising" on the third day. It is so unbelievable that not even a single disciple remembered a word from the prophecy!...

[islamfalse]

@JesusPassedAway You are wrong if you think I will be shaken from my faith by your silly questions?In fact,if I start bombarding you with questions about your faith your foundation will be shaken for sure.The reason why I consider your questions silly is because all your questions are already answered clearly in the Holy Bible.Why dont you take some time to read it yourself?

[JesusPassedAway]

...Had Jesus truly made any such prophecy about his death on the cross and the literal raising on the third day, and that even the enemies had remembered it all way long, simple common sense suggests that there should have been atleast some disciples who would have known about this "prophecy" and rather than being so sad and hopeless, thy should have been rejoicing Jesus' crucifixion, his apparent death and then disappearance on the thrd day. We get a completely different picture. Ponder over it

[islamfalse]

@islamfalse "Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, “We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled. He will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him, spit on him, flog him and KILL HIM. On the third day he will rise again.The disciples did not understand any of this. ItsMEANING WAS HIDDEN from them, and they did not know what he was talking about.".- Lk 18:32-34

[JesusPassedAway]

@islamfalse My question is very simple. Those true disciples of Jesus who were "told" of this "prophecy" knew nothing of the it and they didn't understand a word of it. The enemies on the other hand not only remembered the prophecy, understood it word by word and forced the Romans to put guards in place in case those "dumb" disciples would take it away and announce his resurrection? The truth is that Jesus resembled his SIGN with the SIGN of Jonah. i.e. Just like Jonah survived, so did Jesus.

[chine62]

Jesus Himself said in Rev 1:18 I am He that lived and was dead and behold I am alive forever more and I hold the keys of hell and death. And when He hung on that tree in calvary and said it is finished, He meant He had finished the work of salvation and every other messenger claiming to come from God is a deceiver, Muhammed and so on. The devil will stop at nothing to deceive people, but the gates of hell shall not prevail.

[JesusPassedAway]

@chine62 Well, the four gospels of John, Mathew, Luke and Mark are more trustworthy than the other books. It doesn't mean that these four gospels are all clean from any corruption, but they are comparitively better sources of guidance.

[kiaganga]

this proves all church in the west are imposters of the lord!!!

[alkantre]

absolutely fascinating..I wonder why I hadn't heard of this man in Kashmir before.

[JesusPassedAway]

@alkantre Brother, please also watch other videos of my channel on the topic of Jesus' life, mission, migration and death. Wassalam (and peace be on you)

[alkantre]

@JesusPassedAway as-salam-aleykum I will have to see these videos, ya akh

[chine62]

@alkantre Jesus Himself testified to His death and resurrection and His very disciples who saw Him rise from the dead, saw Him ascend into heaven and He is coming again in glory. If you deny the death of the Son of God, there is nothing left, but eternal damnation in hell. Don't let the devil deceive you.

[JesusPassedAway]

@chine62 Well in truth, Jesus never prophecied about his death. This is a later interpolation into the NT. If you want, I can prove it to you. Nobody saw Jesus flying into the clowds literally too, that is an interpolation too. As a matter of fact, it was Jesus himself who prophecied about his survival from this accursed death on the cross, when he resembled his SIGN with the SING of Jonah. The sign of Jonah was that he survived death inside the fish and came out alive, so did Jesus from "grave"

[chine62]

@JesusPassedAway How do you know it was added? Jesus said over and over again that He would die and rise again. As a matter of fact He scolded His disciples for doubting His resurrection. Mark 16:14. Talking about His ascension, His disciples saw it: Mark 16:19, Luke 24:51-52. When on earth did Jesus say He would survive? Even non-biblical sources testified to the crucifixion of Jesus. It is absurd how Muhammed who was born five centuries later could say Jesus was not crucified.

[JesusPassedAway]

@chine62 You seem to have major misunderstandings about the teachings of Quran on the issue of Jesus. Quran never denies the crucifixion of Jesus, it only rejects the idea that he died on the cross. He was certainly put on the cross but he didn't die of his injuries. This is the teaching of Islam. Now the God of Muhammad (pbhh) is the same God who was God of Adam, Buddha, Krishna, Abraham, Moses, Jesus so on and so forth. So it was the same God who revealed the secrets to Muhammad (pbuh) too!

[islamfalse]

@JesusPassedAway Who knows better?Man who lived with Jesus who had first hand experiences.Or people of a different race in a distant land 600 years after the incident??The world is coming to Jesus!!Miracles are taking place all over the world in Jesus name!!What miracles can be done in the name of mohammed or Allah??

[JesusPassedAway]

@islamfalse Well the man who came 600 years after Jesus explained things in a way that even today documentaries like this one prove to be right. There is no contradiction in the description of true events presented by NT, Holy Quran and the words of Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). The God who revealed His Truth to Jesus is the same God who revealed His truth to Muhammad. It doesn't matter how far and how late the prophet was born after that incident. We will talk about "miracles" later.

[valhoundmom]

All this is covered in a book that has been around for 20-25 years called

Jesus lived in India, there are pictures of his grave in Kashmir and the grave of his mother. Nothing new here.

For the record Nazarene means anointed with oil not from Nazareth.

Nazarite means from Nazareth,

[JesusPassedAway]

@valhoundmom Actually this was all brought by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) in his book "Jesus in India" written in 1896. That grave in Kashmir and the tomb of Mary was also discussed in that book. He proved it from Bible, Quran, other scriptural, historical and medical evidence that Jesus survived that accursed death on the cross and he migrated to Eastwards in search of the lost tribes of Israel. He died in Kashmir much later on.

[valhoundmom]

@JesusPassedAway Yes, the book I'm referring to, referenced that work.

glad I'm not the only one who already read all this.

[JesusPassedAway]

@valhoundmom I hope you would like this recent video too on the same subject from a different angle:

/watch?v=urZtrQpcb3c

[craftynigga]

Jesus Christ is the way dont be brainwashed

[JesusPassedAway]

@craftynigga Jesus was the way for the Jews of his time. There is no denying in that fact. He was a true prophet of God and that is the reason why God didn't allow him to die an accursed death on the cross.

[BuddhaZenMind]

This is not the same as the original!

[mmbbal24]

How bout this???? Jesus never died on the cross, how do you explain the rising from the dead??? Exactly, bc it has been told that he did, but really someone else mistaken for Jesus died on the cross, so jesus never died, thats why they say he rose from the dead. every religion is right, there is no one right religion, they are just ways of connecting to God, but you don't absolutely need religion. God is energy, we are God, and when we die we will be positive energy=God.

[simpleOgre]

where is ur proof ?

lol

[dawah100]

Jesus did not die, not on the cross not in Kashmir India. The truth concerning Jesus is in the Qur'an Jesus was raised up to the heavens body & soul. And he shall return to this world soon.

[JesusPassedAway]

dawah, Quran never says that Jesus was raised up with body and soul. Where did this body and soul come from? This is what Quran says that "Allah raised Jesus to Himself". My simple common sense question from you is that, does a man need to physically move from one place to another to be close to God? If Jesus was physically raised with his body towards God to some other place then that would mean that the presence of God wasn't there where was earlier. The raising is spiritual and not physical.

[simpleOgre]

Not necessary. Because Prophet Muhammad was raised physically to God.

Your assumption has no base and no proof. We really don't need to concern ourself about it.

But many Hadiths suggest that Jesus raised both soul and body. Because you can find many Hadiths describe Prophet Jesus return.

For Muslims both Qur'an and Prophet Hadith are the sources for our knowledge.

You can not use one without the other.

[JesusPassedAway]

simpleogre, If you are referring to Miraj, then that was not a physical journey of Holy Prophet. It was a great Vision that Allah showed him. If you want to declare it a physical journey, then I can warn you now that you are putting yourself in more trouble explaining a number of things that happened during that Miraj. There is neither a single Quranic verse nor a hadith that ever mentions Jesus' literal/physical ascent to heaven. The one to come is a different topic and we can discuss it later.

[simpleOgre]

The Qur'an never said it just raised the soul. The wording of Qur'an implies very clearly it was body and soul.

During Israa the prophet was carried on the Burak. This Burak carried prophet body.

Quraish did not believe in Prophet story. As if it was just a dream they wouldn't have a problem but it was not that's why they didn't believe in it.

Quranic verse 17:1 it did say that Israa was done to "his slave" which implies physical body and soul. This is how the Arabic language works.

[JesusPassedAway]

simpleogre, We never say that Jesus' soul alone was raised, rather his spiritual status, rank, and honour it is that was raised. Now I warned you that if you take Miraj or Isra as a physical journey, you would have to deal with and answer a number of other irrationalities as a consequence. The verse 60/61 of the same chapter that you referred to ie. 17 actually declares it a Vision and also explains that this VISION was made a TRIAL for the disbelievers...

[JesusPassedAway]

...And remember the time when We said to thee: Surely, thy Lord has encompassed the people. And We made not the VISION which We showed thee but as a TRIAL for men, as also the tree cursed in the Quran. And We warn them, but it only increases them in great transgression. (17:60/61) So your assumption that if it was a vision the people should have had no problem with it is rejected by this verse as according to the verse it was the vision that was made trial for thes men...

[JesusPassedAway]

...furthermore, the Holy Prophet met an old woman during this journey who offered him three different drinks. The old woman according to Gibrael was actually the WORLD. If it was a physical journey and he literally met this old woman then how did that all world turned into a woman and where did all the inhabitants of this world go during this journey? What about the prophets who said prayers behind him? How come the dead prophets say prayers in the mosque literally with him if it was physical?

[simpleOgre]

Again for the verse 17:60 is a physical vision. If you read Tafseer for many scholars you will find references to Hadiths that support it is a physical vision. Because some people did make a mistaken claim before that it was not physical. But they were corrected and it is physical vision

[JesusPassedAway]

simpleogre, What do you mean by PHYSICAL VISION? The word in the Quran is "Ro'ya" meaning a vision (Kashf). If commentators said anything that is only their own interpretation and not the actual word of Quran. According to Quran it was a "Ro'ya" (vision). Secondly, you have not answered the other irrationalities as a consequence if you take it as a physical journey. What about that old woman who was actually the WORLD? What about the dead prophets saying prayer behind Holy Prophet? etc.

[simpleOgre]

The idea you have to see the historical events when the Israa did happen and the non-believers did response.

You can not just take a word in the Qur'an and claim you know the exact meaning.

Read the Tafseer. I read Arabic I can reference many Arabic sources but if you have one of the Tafseer books you will find the reason why it is a physical vision. OR what it actually mean. But for sure it doesn't mean a dream vision as stated in many Hadiths.

Do you have any Tafseer books?

[JesusPassedAway]

simpleogre, As I said tafseers are only interpretations done by humans. Humans are bound to make mistakes. This is the reason for me Quran is enough. I have many examples from Quran where the word "Rou'ya" with the meaning of a vision or dream. If you want I can provide you with such examples. Do you have examples from Quran where the same word "rou'ya" or a word from the same root physical sighting and not a vision. Secondly why are you ignoring the issue of old woman and dead prophets?

[simpleOgre]

This is the problem with people who doesn't seek knowledge.

The Tafseer is based on the prophet and companions Hadiths.

It is not interpretation according to their desires.

Either you are clamming that the prophet didn't say that he went to Qudis on Burak physically (which is false because many hadiths exists and support this claim).

Or you simply say you know better than the prophet about what the Qur'anic verse mean.

Either way if you follow any path then you are doing a HUGE indirect sin.

[simpleOgre]

Read the Tafseer books. Don't read one read all so you will get the exact meaning.

[JesusPassedAway]

simpleogre, The interpretation that I am giving you is based on Quran and hadith too. According to Quran it was a "Ro'ya", and according to Hadiths Holy Prophet met an old woman on the way who was actually the WORLD according to the INTERPRETATION of Gibrael. According to Hadiths Holy Prophet led dead prophets in prayer in the mosque. I unlike yourself try to understand the deep meanings, insight and prophecies this amazing vision held with it.

[simpleOgre]

Again, you don't qualify to give me an accurate explanation. You have to have knowledge in many areas.

Language, history, order of the events, all included Hadiths, etc...

The Tafseer books capture all of it.

Just go read them and you will see how astray you were.

I read them and I understand the context. It is up to you if you don't want read them but that won't change the facts that the prophet did raise body and soul. Because there are proofs for that in Hadiths and Qur'an combined together

[JesusPassedAway]

simpleogre, It seems with your comment that you have the knowledge then. Give me a single example from Quran where the word "Rou'ya" has been used and it doesn't mean vision or a dream. Secondly you have yet to touch my question regarding the old woman that met Holy Prophet during this journey. According to Gibrael that old lady was actually the WORLD. So if it was a physical journey then what happened to this world and where did all the inhabitants go? Also what about the dead prophets...

[JesusPassedAway]

...who said prayer behind Holy Prophet in the mosque? Thirdly at which speed was the prayer offered as according to the narrations this whole experience took less than a second. So first answer me these questions and then talk about something else. To me miraj was an amazing vision that Holy Prophet was shown by Allah. This vision was seen at a time when Holy Prophet had no aparant worldly power of any sort. This vision had great prophecies of Islam's dominance in the future etc. Try to ponder.

[coderiu]

@JesusPassedAway I really feel amazed by your way of thinking. You have a HUGE problem brother. I hope that you read more to clarify your confusion. I mean "really" read. And I wonder how can you waste your time debating an issue that's already resolved in the first verse from the chapter Alisra'a. Read verse 1. Or even more, read the chapter's name! Do you read/speak Arabic? What does the word (esra'a or isra'a) mean? Read that from Lesan Alarab if you want. And answer this simple question:

[coderiu]

@JesusPassedAway If that was a "dream" or a vision as you name it, what is the special part about that? Why is it a miracle?! What is the special thing about that? Anybody can see a dream. Why Allah "SW" put a whole chapter named especially for this event? And for God sake, the prayer with "dead" prophets is what puzzled you?! Huh?! Are you kidding me brother. No like really? Are you serious? Prophet Esa (PBUH) by the power of Allah (SW) was able to raise the dead, so how can you explain that?

[JesusPassedAway]

@coderiu I already answered this question posed to me by simpleogre. This is the verse of Quran: "And remember the time when We said to thee: Surely, thy Lord has encompassed the people. And We made not the VISION which We showed thee but as a TRIAL for men, as also the tree cursed in the Quran. And We warn them, but it only increases them in great transgression." (17:60/61) Using your same logic, how can a "simple" vision be a trial for people? But Quran says so...

[JesusPassedAway]

...As a matter of fact, that vision was not an ordinary vision rather a great vision with so many future prophecies. At a time when Islam apparantly had no worldy power, this vision was shown to the Holy Prophet. For disbelievers it was a joke, for believers this vision was a great sign from the Lord. Do you really believe that a human can bring people back to life literally from dead? Jesus like all other prophets brought SPIRITUALLY dead back to life with Allah's help.

[coderiu]

@JesusPassedAway And those dead people are "just" people, not prophets or messengers of God. So how about that? How is that possible? I think if you want to analyze this issue from your point of view and not from the fact that it is a miracle and meant to be a special event that is "ONLY" for prophet Mohammed "PBUH," then I am sorry to tell you that you will never understand what is going on. And one more thing, you cannot pick ONLY what you like from the religion. Read the H. Qura'an man. Read.

[JesusPassedAway]

@coderiu Well that is quite convenient to say that we are unable to understand this. Quran repeatedly asks us to use our AQL (Wisdom) to understand the truth, but you are saying that we can't use our AQL here? When you associate such absurdities with Holy Prophet and also say that we are unable to understand this then you are making Islam and Holy Prophet a target of mockery. For God's sake, try to understand the beautiful Islam, the Islam that ones' nature accepts, not an Islam of fairy stories

[JesusPassedAway]

@coderiu Well which Quran do you read brother? There is no Chapter of Quran named as Al-Isra. The chapter where the vision of Isra is concerned is called Bani-Islrael. It was a spiritual journey and not physical journey. So the meaning of the term Isra remains as Journey, if this journey was physical with material body or was it a spiritual journey of heart that was shown to Holy Prophet through that great vision is the question. According to us, it was not a physical journey.

[okeeno27]

Obviously not understanding the power of the holy spirit you are forever blind in carnal thinking (Yeshua) Jesus lives

[JesusPassedAway]

okeeno27, This is the kind of response I am quite used to listening from some "Christians" today. Any unbiased rational person will go with the Ahmadiyya understanding of Jesus' life, mission and his death. Careful study of Bible, Quran, other scriptures, hadith, historical and medical evidence all lead to one direction. Jesus was a true prophet of God who came for 12 tribes of Israel and was able to pass his message to these tribes before dying a natural death in Kashmir, India. Peace be on him

[okeeno27]

Well we both have different faith then because the romans and the Jews both have records of his death if these superior powers both of which were present at his death saw wrong well then I can't argue with you,

[JesusPassedAway]

okeeno, Jews wanted Jesus to die an accursed death on the cross to prove that he was God forbid a false prophet. Roman authorities took "action" against Jesus under the pressure from Jewish clergy. Pilate himself never wanted to see Jesus die on the cross and he did everything in his power first openly then secretly to save Jesus from this death on the cross. Jesus' migration was a closed kept secret so these so called Jewish and roman records if there are any are quite understandable.

[JesusPassedAway]

okeeno, On top of all this, there were no doctors at the scene to confirm Jesus' death when he was taken off the cross. Brother! the truth is that Jesus was God's chosen one, and God saved him from this accursed death on the cross against the wishes of his enemies. It were his enemies who were accursed by God and it was the status of Jesus that elevated. All praise to Allah.

[okeeno27]

Like I said we have different belief once one is not at a specific place their is always a what if the same goes for Mohamed the prophet what if he was making stuff up what if he was working for a conceal of demons(you might want to google that there are plenty of sources) trust me there is always a what if and oh we have proof for such and such. There fore everyone must remember faith is blind walking

[okeeno27]

It is important to remember that the holy spirit gives us power I have whitness healing, prophecy and much more by those lead by the Holy spirit including hearing people speak other languages and having never even learn it and people translating what was spoken the only reason why the church has grown so weak is because everyone is caught up with the cares of the world none is preaching the gospel. Plus the catholic and their (demon) pope have raped the name of Christ

[okeeno27]

Just goes to show what happens when rich white man try to run a church

[JesusPassedAway]

Brother, Faith might be just about blind walking for you. It is not as irrational as that to me. To me religion is a way of life. It is teaches me as to how one leads ones life. It gives me rationality and it makes me rational. What you associate with Jesus certainly demands one to become completely irrational and to disassociate oneself from the real world. What I believe only demands one to be unbiased and rational in the way they think and research. God has given us wisdom for some reason.

[okeeno27]

well said however faith is the hope of thing yet unseen so it is blind walking trusting God to lead and not to be lead by our own sight thats what I meant not that its irrational sorry if I gave you that feeling

[JesusPassedAway]

Brother, Faith certainly demands one to believe in unseen too but when the whole belief system is based on irrationality (no offence intended) and almost everything in it goes against the God given wisdom, then there has to be something seriously wrong with the understanding of our religion. When all the evidence points towards Jesus surviving death on the cross then believing otherwise that is also completely irrational too needs serious thought and honest research. Peace be on you.

[okeeno27]

Ok I'm not sure how Jesus got into this we were speaking on faith in God (elohim) the father and i thought we both agreed that you would stick with your evidence and irrationalities and I'll stick with mine PEACE!!!!

[okeeno27]

Furthermore I wish to renounce your Hadhrat for the messiah is the saviour of isreal when he comes again he will fight and bring peace isreal as promised by the Lord (yaweh) and the prophets

[JesusPassedAway]

Brother, Think about it. Aren't you making the same mistake in regards to the "second" coming Jesus as the Jews made for the first. Just like John the Baptist came in spirit and character of Elijah (according to Jesus himself), Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) has come in the spirit and character of Jesus. Jesus came to revive Judaism, while Promised Messiah has come to revive Islam. You however have every right to accept or reject what ever you want. Peace be on you again.

[mineohno]

Hello. :)

[lauragledhill]

I do not believe anything said in the last few seconds of the documentary, but you have to give it to them- they at least made their argument sound probable instead of just spouting it and expecting us to believe it. It's a very well written documentary.

[JesusPassedAway]

Lauragledhill, The last few seconds of the documentary actually sum up the facts very nicely. It is talking about the modern Christianity based on the teachings of St. Paul and not the original Christianity as was brought by Jesus (peace be on him). The Paulian Christianity is all founded on the fact that Jesus died on the cross. If Jesus didn't die on the cross, the whole foundation of modern Christianity falls into pieces. ...

[SanderDolce]

This vid is a lie. Christianity is the only true faith

[JesusPassedAway]

...The material presented in the documentary has been taken almost entirely from the book written in 1896 by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad; The Promised Messiah called "Jesus in India". The book can be read for free here: w w w . alislam . o r g / library / books / jesus-in-india / index . html The book proves Jesus' survival from the cross and then migration to the East from Bible, Quran, Hadith, other Holy scriptures, medical and historical books. Its a must read for anyone seeking TRUTH.

[samuelmorrison]

Jesus went to India. Rubbish. I think he went to Ireland and learnt Gaelic.

[JesusPassedAway]

smorrison, You are most welcome to call anything rubbish that goes against your beliefs but it wouldn't change the facts. Read the Bible with a pure and unbiased heart and you will see the truth clearly too. The sun is shining with its full glory and if you still want to call it dark, then it is for you own loss. Promised Messiah and Reformer of the latter days who is being awaited by almost all the major religions has already come to unite the people of all faiths. 4details chk my othr videos!!

[MirrPL]

The rest of the parts all seem to be uploaded though with a Spanish voice over. Shame. Would have been interesting to see all these parts.

Cheers!

[PoetryEater]

is there a fourth part to this documentary?

[JesusPassedAway]

Assalamu Alaikum (peace be on you PoetryEater), This is the last part of the documentary. You can however check my other videos too that touch different aspects of the life and mission of Hadhrat Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him.

[PoetryEater]

thank you.

i'll check out some others.

peace

[MirrPL]

Thank you JPA.

Peace!

[JesusPassedAway]

My pleasure MirrPL. Wassalam (and peace be on you) too.