The sequence of events that led to this crash began with a strange quirk in physics called Super Chilled Water. This froze all 3 pitot systems and resulted in the loss of airspeed data. The airbus manual clearly states that in the event of the loss of pitot data, apply 85-percent power with 5-degree nose up attitude, to prevent stall. The pilots didn't do this. Moreover, when the Airbus FADEC system makes corrections to airspeed, the sticks don't move. This may have contributed to pilot error.
We need to start valuing life more than machines. I have always found airplanes and airports seem to be the most care lacking places towards human beings. THere seems to be not an ounce of care towards people on them.
i don't know how the fuck a 'veteran' pilot doesn't know how to avoid a stall when flying without auto... subpar training on the part of AF is clearly to blame... when that BA a340 suffered engine failure a hundred feet from the runway it was the PILOT who took charge, not the damn computer
This is really sad! I read a story about a dad and his daughter who decided to take the previous flight to take advantage of some earned miles. They waited at the airport while his wife and son were on flight 447.
@aidemguy That'd be a nice idea but that would actually pose more problems in this scenario (like floating away). The boxes are mounted and the wreck needs to be located to retrieve them.
And they serve an alternate purpose as is mentioned in the video, namely that they can act as beacons to aid in the search. Unfortunately in this case their batteries ran out before it could happen.
Anyone know what ultimately came of the information they recovered, if any?
Pilot error. The captain was sleeping when they lost the airspeed data, and for some reason the co-pilot lifted the plane over its maximum flight altitude. The plane started stalling and the pilots couldn't recover it. Contributing factor was the confusing stall alarm which didn't sound when the pilots started to pull back, because the airspeed was too low.
Had the co-pilot just sat still and done nothing, this accident wouldn't most likely have happened.
@jounihat Thanks for the detailed info. Your final statement actually ran through my head as I was reading your post. I know the whole pilot disorientation thing is a big issue with the larger jets, but it goes to show you how even trained pilots can be so easily deceived and how they're at the mercy of the equipment.
Actually my last statement was a bit misleading. "Sitting still" in that situation would mean following the A330's unreliable airspeed procedure. It should be done always in these situations to keep the plane flying safely before identifying the cause of the problem. It's possible that the co-pilot didn't realise this. Training, training and more training. That's the only solution.
@jounihat Oh, I knew what you you meant. "Toothaches don't improve on their own."
Most likely the co-pilot was in fact caught off guard. Again, the whole disorientation problem with not understanding the whole picture beyond the confines of the cockpit. Which goes back to the training as you mention.
@MrPENGTINGZ - LOL and Brits invented the Aeroplane (Percy Pilcher) the jet engines (Frank Whittle), its tyres (John Boyd Dunlop), the RADAR keeping it safe Robert Watosn Watt)...the computers flying it (Ada Lovelace), the idea of software that runs on the computers, we invented the first passenger jet, the supersonic passenger jet, the supersonix jet Miles M.52, etc etc phew i'm worn out.....
@JundaComputersGmbH sorry but the freeze of pitot tubes was pointed out by Airbus on 1995 and they were replaced by unfreezabled pitot tube but on military planes only...
boeing have more succecfull flights than any plane maker, exceeding one crash for every million plus flights.to airbus one crash for every half a million flights. FACT..
@char1eston Can you please provide a source for your 'once in a million flight for Boeing and once in half a million for Airbus' claim? My source for the number of accidents and fatalities in the last five years is aviation-safety (dot) net, BTW.
there is more chance of being killed in a car crash than on a plane and like a lot of car crashes it's driver / pilot error .... there should be better training for pilots but with the current economic climate safety standards are awful... the way these companies see it the more the plane is in the air the more money they make, if it's on the ground it's no good to them....
the airlines are all low on money at the moment and are running at max. THey are skimping on passenger food portions just to keep enough money to pay for aircraft maintainance. i've noticed that the food portions on some airlines are half the size they used to be. THere just serving up any old dog shit. its hard to tell whats in some of the food. its also bad when you think some airlines are beignkunts and not letting people take food onboard. just fuck the crap airlines off
Alright. All I have to say is: quit bashing the French, it ain't going to get you anywhere farther than where you are. About the manufacturers, well, both made, make and will make excellent aircraft! I don't understand the need to bash and put down one manufacturer for another, even though all must have their opinion, just state it and quit criticizing the other!
Hey, I'm gonna complain which airline is safer! I only fly maybe once a year! But I drive a car every fucking day! Go find me the safest car brand with good MPG.
Airbus had only 1 crash that was due to design error in it's whole history, and only about 22 in total. Boeing had over 500 crashes and over 25 of those due to design error.
Airbus is so much safer! (crash = any kind of accident with death, Airbus btw had only 2 fatals (=all dead))
@the4clusters much safer? hahaha dont make yourself sound like a retard. Boeing has been around since the start of commercial transport. and in the past five years, its been all airbus thats been crashing, and no boeing.BOEING for a fact has the best safety record counting one crash for every million plus flights, thats better than any plane maker. it's safe to say BOEING is safer.
@char1eston lol have you even looked at the facts once? have you ever watched or read NTSB investigation results? Google search "Airliner Accidents and incidents caused by design or manufacturing errors", and click on the first link...
5 Boeing crashes
0 Airbus crashes
those numbers are 100% caused by the manufacturer, and as you can see Airbus is way safer
@char1eston Hmmm... 'all Airbus crashing'? Please look at the statistics over the last few years, and you'll see the rates are similar for both manufacturers. In fact, just two days ago, a 747-400F crashed, killing the crew, and today, a 737-800 did. Both were recent aircraft.
In fact, I decided to check your assertion for the last 5 years. Since 2006, there have been 10 fatal Airbus accidents, killing 996 people. In that same period, there were 21 fatal Boeing accidents, killing 1086.
@Smoznizjev Those 10 Airbus accidents would have had to have been full. Airbus Actually Currently should have a higher safety rating because there aircraft are more reliable. On Boeing the 737-800 The radio altimeter fails and there isnt a way to fix it. Boeing has tried everything and they cant figure it out. Airbus is more advanced in technology. if you look at the Airbus A380 you will see that there is very few papers in the cockpit for Checklist Airport maps. Anything
WRONG....thats funny, cause I DID look at the stats. not just take the word for someone who says" look at the statistics. wikipedia org/wiki/Lists_of_accidents_and_incidents_on_commercial_airliners
boeing all the way. it also doesnt help you dont understand one has been in business FAR longer. use your brain.
i feel safer in airbuses than in boeings:))...take a look at statistics and see how many 737 and 747 have crashed with a huge number of victims and the look at airbus statistic and see how many A320 A310 A318 A340 A330 have crashed...and you'l see what im talking about;)
@andrei7060 Thats the fourth A330 crash and now Airbus is trying to blame it on pilot error when the fucking computer on A330s goes nuts they crash quit being an Aibus Fan and for once in your life admit the A330 is flying death trap with a psychotic computer flying it. Also never forget an Airbus A330 is a POS Piece Of Shit with two wings and if want fly on a plane with defective Pitot Tubes and a HAL 1000 AKA psychotic computer at the helm be be my guest and cut your wasted life short!
@andrei7060 obviously you don't know how to read statistics, unsurprisingly you're stupid enough to write that. guess you didn't learn math in school did you
@AdverbAdjective You are just a jerk. Airbus is more advanced the Boeing so that doesn't make it SHIT. Technically Airbus because of its more advanced it takes more skill to fly. But those who fly it are trained in way to handle anything the technology can throw at them. Boeing isn't the same way. Airbus learned from Boeing. When airbus began manufacturing Boeing had already done a lot for aviation so Airbus took the knowledge put it into there aircraft and said this will be safer. and it is
@Silverpaw800 I beg to differ on that. One of the highest time A330 pilots in the world is quoted as sayin gthe flt 447 senario was never done on a sim. He is not sure he could have regained control of the aircraft. Also to quote Dr Kathy Abbott, FAA human factors specialist: " "Failure assessment is difficult, failure recovery is difficult, and the failure modes were not anticipated by the designers."
@Silverpaw800 Don't be so sure. They are different design philosophies. Boeing thinks the pilot should have the final authority. Airbus does not. Here is waht Dr Kathy Abbott FAA human factors specialist has to say: "Failure assessment is difficult, failure recovery is difficult, and the failure modes were not anticipated by the designers."
pretty sure in the end the real reason the plane went down will be software trouble....like the AB that crashed at the Paris Airshow and the B-2 that crashed ect....I only mention that because the pilot turned control over to the Co-pilot after saying he "Had nothing over here" thinking that referd to the actual control of the plane...possibly the pitotube iced up or something and the software went haywire and overroad or ignored the pilots imputs to get it out of the stall'
@usselliot76 No Airbus ever crashed at the Paris Airshow. You're probably referring to the Habsheim crash, but that was pilot error, not software trouble.
Wait, apparently the plane stalled over open waters right? First, werent they at cruzing altitude? If not every pilot should be trained to roll up at a 20 degree angle to get off the runway then retract the flaps and gear and then ascend at a 15 degree angle. What did they do to stall it?
All right boeing bashers what is going to happen when a A-380 falls because the pilots cant control it? is everybody come up with an excuse for that too.
@MrCriticOfAll Boeing bashers? I see only one manufacturer being bashed, and that's Airbus. By you! And wjile doing so, you have already shown a STAGGERING lack of knowledge about Airbus. I've shown you that repeatedly, and you've never been able to refute any of it. So what do you do? Stop responding to me, and simply start picking a fight with someone else, using the exact arguments I've already proven wrong. That shows you really don't care about facts, you just want a fight. Pathetic really.
@MrCriticOfAll exactly. the crap will hit the fan when a 380 goes down and airbus will be exposed for the pile of crap that they are. every proper pilot knows airbuses are shit. look at AF447, it just fell out of the sky and the dickwad pilots didnt even know they were stalling., LOL
@hosdurga2011 OMG you're just horrible. people died. and they were from 32 nationalities including americans. who are you to call the french racist? you are american thanks to the french. france came to save america when the british army was more powerful. if it wasn't for the french you would be british today. you won the independance thanks to them. show them respect. they also offered you a beautiful statue of liberty to celebrate their friendship and your independance.
@char1eston I know that my friend! but I never said bad things about america cause here in france we love them. read the commetn of this guy he was saying horrible things about us that's why I wanted to remember him that without us he wouldn't be american but british. france and america still exists thanks to each other! they are like the best friends but they are too stupid to admit it.
You piece of shit. Show some respect. Without the French, the United States wouldn't even exist. The French heritage in this country is MASSIVE, starting by the city you're living in. Gook.
@lakoweb Those frenchies were eating too many french fries and farting up in da plane. With the extra weight, the jet crashed straight down into the Atlantic. Now the poor fish are getting killed by all the methane build up in the deep waters.
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There was a spanish IBERIA (or something) passanger flight right after this air france plane but the pilot in that iberia plane made the decision to fly extra miles around that thunderstrom in order to avoid any discomfort...a wise decision on his part.
@mianmitthu You'd be surprised.. apparently 2 out of 3 pilots would rather fly their planes into a thunderstorm as opposed to revert just to save time...
2 years after the crash, they finally determined the cause of the crash to be the HUGE thunderstorm AF447 flew into, the storm had very pure water called super cooled liquid water which only freezes when it makes contact with metal, such as the pitot tube of the A330. The pitot tube was blocked by ice forming on it, so the airspeed indicator doesn't work. The pilot don't know how fast they're going, and slowed the plane too much, and stalled the plane into the ocean. Its not Airbus's fault!
@angryman1007 Why "the french" ? I would understand you blame the pilot but why French people ?
And just imagine yourself by night in a plane where u can't see your speed & altitude, you can't see outside to know approximately your altitude, you have stall alarms when you are going down. The only error pilots made is they rise the plane nose by 10° instead of 5° at the begining, after that i don't think any pilot would have been able to understand what was hapenning.
@TheThunderpedro Euh si t'as pas compris l'anglais je disais que le pilote est peut être à blâmer mais pas les Français ;) Il a trop braqué l'avion au début de la perte des instruments ce qui a provoqué le décrochage, après avec les instruments qui ne répondaient pas, l'alarme de décrochage qui s'enlève alors que l'avion décroche apparemment toujours puis qui revient après, aucun pilote n'aurait pu rétablir l'avion.
@JundaComputersGmbH The pitot systems was known to be problematic. There was a fix available. Air France chose not to fix it. They have since ALL been replaced on ALL A330s. BTW Both Airbus ans Air France have been charged with manslaughter. Better get your facts straight. And the final report is not out on the crash yet either.
@sonex424 No you get your facts straight, the pitot tube alone would not have made AF447 crash, thats why it was unnecessary to fix it. It was also pilot error that made it crash, the experienced captain was not in the cockpit when the plane entered into a stall, the young inexperienced first officer was flying the plane, both the stall stick shaker and overspeed warning was on at the same time he didn't know what to do, he called captain back, when he came back they were a minute from impact
@JundaComputersGmbH I have mine right. The final accident report is not in. You seem to be formulating one. The aircraft was in "alternate law' Because of descrepencies in several systems. When in alternate llaw stall protection is lost. Pilots Almost never hand fly at that altitude and never with the autothrottles disengaged. Why? Because it's dam near impossible. The senario they found themselves in is not taught in simulator training.. Don't be so quick to judge.
@sonex424 Sorry but as a real pilot I can say you: recognizing stalls and recovering from them are "more than basic" maneuvers. And sorry again, but... no, it is not impossible to fly a plane by hand on its entire flying envelope. That's why the pilots will ever have their jobs.
My main concern is: Who can assure the information provided by the computers express exactly what the pilots did? If the computers are right... no discussion anymore: pilots failed. But...
@bernardirs You obviously have never hand flown a jet at altitude. The statement I made can be verified by many Airbus and Boeing Pilots as well as Citation and Gulfstream pilots. They do not hand fly without autothrottles. Recovering from a deep stall in IMC with no AS and no warnings (when in alternate law warnings cease when AOA exceeds 30deg) In that aircraft would be something that no pilot would want to tackle and few would have a good outcome.
@JundaComputersGmbH So many YT experts. 1. the final report is not in. 2) the senario they found themselves in is never taught on the sim. (Airbus pilots' words not mine.) 3. in that senario auto trim automatically trims nose up. 4. Heavy pilots almost never hand fly at that altitude because it is extremely difficult. and NEVER do it with the autothrottles disengaged. 5. to recover from that situation in IMC with no AS and NO warnings. Is near impossible. Airbus needs better training.
@badboiant29 AF447's pitot tube was blocked by ice, formed by super cooled liquid water and Birgenair Flight 301 was pitot tube blocked by some kind of a wasp that made a nest in it when the plane parked outdoors for 25 days.
@JundaComputersGmbH well.. in a way it is Airbus's Fault since manufacturers are supposed to get around problems like these, those circumstances should have been reviewed even before the aircraft was put into service ...
@TurbineProductionsX The pitot tubes of that design where in the process of being replaced with better designs by airlines at the time of the accident. Airbus recommended the change, but as far as I'm aware they don't have the power to demand that the fleet is grounded until the changes are made, that has to come from a civil aviation organisation like the FAA or EASA.
@JundaComputersGmbH So why weren't they aware of that huge thunderstorm? Are huge thunderstorms something planes usually go through and this "pure water" phenomenon is unlikely to occur?
I heard from a couple of my friends in the army that were involved in the search of flight 447 and they found evidence from the cockpit voice recorder which said the ever found which is bs they actually have found it and the data record and after analyzing both they have found put that flight 447 airbus a330 actually had suffered a catastrophic structule failure resulted the wings detaching from the plane which has never happened and airbus lied and said they dont know where flight 447 dissappe
They should make commercial plane; not just personal planes with float bars on the bottom like sea planes so if they every did have to crash in the sea... they would have something to fall back on...
@MrCriticOfAll Well the initial investigation was to blame inconsistent data provided by sensors that allows pilot to make mistakes. However after the black box was recovered, pilot action and autopilot was the primary topic right now. So more mysteries hasn't solve yet.
@MrCriticOfAll Further recording also indicate pilot errors in attempt to save the jet. Latest news from investigator suggest that pilot making input error by stalling the jet with nose up angle. Even Airbus design engines to respond in stalling situation, the airspeed are not sufficient enough from preventing aircraft to make a rapid side turn. Before the impact, the pilots are making their final solution to regain nose up position again but fail.
When developing the software for the control system, three teams work independently on each of the triple redundancy computers. Not just one! Then they go and fit three airspeed sensors of the same type .... if one has a snag, bet the others will too.... there was a replacement programme running to cure a snag, but it seems that they all quit together. Didja know that even on VW engines, the magneto belts had to be replaced alternately so that they were unlikely to fail together? Not obvious.
Neither the majority of the airframe nor its occupants were found. The plane disintegrated in midflight so they would have been scattered as they fell. Keep using composites on airframes. Pitot systems have super heaters in the tubes. I doubt it was pitot tube obstruction by ice alone. It is more likely they flew into turbulence that exceeeded the airframe's load limits. You can't fly without wings. They should have gone around the weather or delayed it in consultation their flight center.
@vector19X The airplane was intact until it hit the water at a rate of descent of 10,000ft/min. Logic would dictate your thoughts until they found the FDR and CVR. Many questions answered, but many more unanswered.
@Alltimeboxing a pitot system failure would not make the aircraft unable to fly you would just lose the pitot static instruments. This must of been somethign extremly bad
@1982FMJ that already happened. I think its the automatic pilot that calculates its speed only with the Pitot system. If something is stuck inside (ice, hornets...) that can lead to false indications of speed, especially by night, with bad weather and no visibility. Too low speed and you fall, too high speed and you desintegrate, is that bad enough for you ?
@1982FMJ the AP uses the Pitot only. And Air France pilots went on strike afterwards until the Pitot systems were replaced. I told you about the previous accident, after this one they changed the Pitot on Boeings only. They had to kill more than 200 others on this AF flight to change it on Airbus. But still I'm not sure the problem is fixed today. You're talking about more severe but if you are totally wrong on the speed u are going in such airplanes, this IS indeed a very very severe failure.
@1982FMJ Birgenair flight 301 got brought down by a wasp in the pitot. The autopilot was getting an overspeed signal and pitched up and reduced throttle. the autopilot then reached the limits and disengaged. the instruments said 350 knots but by then they were actually about to stall. they increased power but they were too slow and nose up, and an engine stalled. it then got into upside down spin and crashed into a sea. not that this was what happened but a pitot tube failure can be serious
@Alltimeboxing it isn't obvious at all. how can you say its obvious? you sound very naieve saying its obvious when the authorities have admitted they haven't got a dam clue what caused this
What is up with Air France and crashes. The one in Toronto, the Concorde crash the auto pilot computer crash and then this one. What a unlucky airline. No offense, I'm just saying.
@yomamasapeach Well, if you're just saying, you could also know AF is doing 1800 flights a day desserving 244 destinations so of course it increases the risk of incident. If you look at statistics (incident per hour of flight), AF has approximatively the same results as the other great airlines.... So, with such a development, I wouldn't call that Airline"unlucky". Medias just love to criticize Air France and Airbus because they know it's thanks to them that Airbus is so important now.
Airbus is born on 1970, boeing is born on 1915 (only 50 years of difference): there is more experience in flight and in airplane construction between 2 wars too: for this is more high percentual of accidents only because Boeing is born first.
@adamboeing737 oh and either way, engineering flaws or construction defects are such a tiny fraction of the cause of accidents, it's hardly even fair to compare them like that. Most aircraft accidents in general are caused by pilot error. Following that, in the airline industry, it is maintenance errors. Airlines are a black hole for money and they cut as many corners as they can get away with.
@adamboeing737 up to just the last few decades Boeing held much more market share than AirBus. More planes flying, more chance for something to go wrong.
@masm60 If Arbus Fans want to fly on A330 with with defective Pitot Tubes and a HAL 1000 AKA psychotic computer at the helm let the stubborn Eurotards die and cut their lifes short. These idiots have no idea about aircraft and the Moron andre7060 ALA Romainian is a prime candidate for the Darwin Award. The worlds better without the Pro-Airbus-Eurotards so let them be lemmings and their the ones who will be screaming while falling form 38,000 feet save me Lord and next time I will fly Boeing.
@masm60 Technically It May not be that. With the way they produce the release one a day but... They learn more about that aircraft so the more the produce the safer it can be
@adamboeing737 do u know y? ! boeing has more crashes beacuse it has many more planes than airbus what I mean is that boeing is older thats Y dont u think how about lets say a plane company started 2 years ago how many plane crashes You think it may have??? maybe 1,2 or 3 beacuse it hasent manufacter that many planes hope you get it boeing is older so its has many more crashes than airbus and im a boeing,airbus fan :)
nothing more terrifing than a plane in trpuble over the ocean in the dark.my god fear
hassannassaralah 2 days ago
french shitplanes, can't even build good cars
Joelbest1 4 days ago
bermuda triangle ate it..
cinderellarai 4 days ago
so how did it crasH??????????
MrShotgun144 1 week ago
The sequence of events that led to this crash began with a strange quirk in physics called Super Chilled Water. This froze all 3 pitot systems and resulted in the loss of airspeed data. The airbus manual clearly states that in the event of the loss of pitot data, apply 85-percent power with 5-degree nose up attitude, to prevent stall. The pilots didn't do this. Moreover, when the Airbus FADEC system makes corrections to airspeed, the sticks don't move. This may have contributed to pilot error.
PirateSygnal 2 weeks ago
Roll on the days when we no longer use fossil fuels and crashes don't lead to fireballs of death.
mjgc8755 2 weeks ago
We need to start valuing life more than machines. I have always found airplanes and airports seem to be the most care lacking places towards human beings. THere seems to be not an ounce of care towards people on them.
210482fmj 2 weeks ago
there they have encountered?
pilotcrazy129 4 weeks ago
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210482fmj 4 weeks ago
i don't know how the fuck a 'veteran' pilot doesn't know how to avoid a stall when flying without auto... subpar training on the part of AF is clearly to blame... when that BA a340 suffered engine failure a hundred feet from the runway it was the PILOT who took charge, not the damn computer
angryman1007 1 month ago
@angryman1007 ba 777 but yes
airplanes66 1 month ago
@airplanes66 my mistake thank you for that
angryman1007 1 month ago
goood
king22207 2 months ago
This is really sad! I read a story about a dad and his daughter who decided to take the previous flight to take advantage of some earned miles. They waited at the airport while his wife and son were on flight 447.
modena360chick 2 months ago
lol
bl1tznr1 2 months ago
1 Hungarian boy die to on this fly,, the boy was only 12 old from komlo
tutaj99 2 months ago
lol, americains flame french, but american prefer plane > towers.
bb, fuckings yankee.
EpiiDemiic89 3 months ago
@EpiiDemiic89 You know, we Americans would prefer that you post in French versus retarded-sounding deficient English.
TheWitchOvAgnesi 2 months ago
@EpiiDemiic89 and the french support thosepeople flying into the towers you refer to
yamahonkawazuki 2 months ago
why on earth don't they make the black boxes FLOAT???
alSation81 3 months ago
@alSation81 the ''black boxes' record how the plane crashed - its like a log and transmission system.
aidemguy 2 months ago
@aidemguy I know, but in the event of a crash into deep sea, why can't they make them to float to the surface?
alSation81 2 months ago
@alSation81 oh...i thought they did
aidemguy 2 months ago
@aidemguy That'd be a nice idea but that would actually pose more problems in this scenario (like floating away). The boxes are mounted and the wreck needs to be located to retrieve them.
And they serve an alternate purpose as is mentioned in the video, namely that they can act as beacons to aid in the search. Unfortunately in this case their batteries ran out before it could happen.
Anyone know what ultimately came of the information they recovered, if any?
Sad story.
TheWitchOvAgnesi 2 months ago
@TheWitchOvAgnesi
Pilot error. The captain was sleeping when they lost the airspeed data, and for some reason the co-pilot lifted the plane over its maximum flight altitude. The plane started stalling and the pilots couldn't recover it. Contributing factor was the confusing stall alarm which didn't sound when the pilots started to pull back, because the airspeed was too low.
Had the co-pilot just sat still and done nothing, this accident wouldn't most likely have happened.
jounihat 1 month ago
@jounihat Thanks for the detailed info. Your final statement actually ran through my head as I was reading your post. I know the whole pilot disorientation thing is a big issue with the larger jets, but it goes to show you how even trained pilots can be so easily deceived and how they're at the mercy of the equipment.
TheWitchOvAgnesi 1 month ago
@TheWitchOvAgnesi
Actually my last statement was a bit misleading. "Sitting still" in that situation would mean following the A330's unreliable airspeed procedure. It should be done always in these situations to keep the plane flying safely before identifying the cause of the problem. It's possible that the co-pilot didn't realise this. Training, training and more training. That's the only solution.
jounihat 1 month ago
@jounihat Oh, I knew what you you meant. "Toothaches don't improve on their own."
Most likely the co-pilot was in fact caught off guard. Again, the whole disorientation problem with not understanding the whole picture beyond the confines of the cockpit. Which goes back to the training as you mention.
TheWitchOvAgnesi 1 month ago
fuck ta france 2 porc!!
dharynparapen666 3 months ago
Ironic! I watched a documentary on this today! and then found this video.
DangerDudeStudios1 4 months ago
domevideo
kissiboy786 4 months ago
"a330 is a bit smaller then a 747"...the fuck?
y2asin1 5 months ago
@myaka27too its an aeroplane, perfect english :s
MrPENGTINGZ 5 months ago
@MrPENGTINGZ *it's
2012singularity2012 5 months ago
@2012singularity2012 AEROPLANE IS PERFECT ENGLISH WHAT EVERY ENGLISH PERSON SAYS, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WE INVENTED THE LANGUAGE!!!!!!!
MrPENGTINGZ 5 months ago
@MrPENGTINGZ - LOL and Brits invented the Aeroplane (Percy Pilcher) the jet engines (Frank Whittle), its tyres (John Boyd Dunlop), the RADAR keeping it safe Robert Watosn Watt)...the computers flying it (Ada Lovelace), the idea of software that runs on the computers, we invented the first passenger jet, the supersonic passenger jet, the supersonix jet Miles M.52, etc etc phew i'm worn out.....
TheMightyBlighty 5 months ago
LOL funny crash
plasticspastic201 5 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH sorry but the freeze of pitot tubes was pointed out by Airbus on 1995 and they were replaced by unfreezabled pitot tube but on military planes only...
TnaTigob 5 months ago
Airbus isn't ay fault anymore than Boeing for the wrecks, you try piloting a 370 ton plane traveling at 450 mph
gbdb1997 6 months ago
we will have all the details of the crash next friday. new details....that's what they said on tv.
MISSELO27 6 months ago
we are all here on this video to see one thing, and that is what happen to a airbus plane not boeing.
char1eston 6 months ago
boeing have more succecfull flights than any plane maker, exceeding one crash for every million plus flights.to airbus one crash for every half a million flights. FACT..
char1eston 6 months ago
@char1eston Can you please provide a source for your 'once in a million flight for Boeing and once in half a million for Airbus' claim? My source for the number of accidents and fatalities in the last five years is aviation-safety (dot) net, BTW.
Smoznizjev 6 months ago
boom
bobny20 6 months ago
there is more chance of being killed in a car crash than on a plane and like a lot of car crashes it's driver / pilot error .... there should be better training for pilots but with the current economic climate safety standards are awful... the way these companies see it the more the plane is in the air the more money they make, if it's on the ground it's no good to them....
bruser81 6 months ago
the airlines are all low on money at the moment and are running at max. THey are skimping on passenger food portions just to keep enough money to pay for aircraft maintainance. i've noticed that the food portions on some airlines are half the size they used to be. THere just serving up any old dog shit. its hard to tell whats in some of the food. its also bad when you think some airlines are beignkunts and not letting people take food onboard. just fuck the crap airlines off
210482fmj 6 months ago
Alright. All I have to say is: quit bashing the French, it ain't going to get you anywhere farther than where you are. About the manufacturers, well, both made, make and will make excellent aircraft! I don't understand the need to bash and put down one manufacturer for another, even though all must have their opinion, just state it and quit criticizing the other!
NA734 6 months ago
Hey, I'm gonna complain which airline is safer! I only fly maybe once a year! But I drive a car every fucking day! Go find me the safest car brand with good MPG.
Nickmckiller 6 months ago
Airbus had only 1 crash that was due to design error in it's whole history, and only about 22 in total. Boeing had over 500 crashes and over 25 of those due to design error.
Airbus is so much safer! (crash = any kind of accident with death, Airbus btw had only 2 fatals (=all dead))
the4clusters 7 months ago
@the4clusters much safer? hahaha dont make yourself sound like a retard. Boeing has been around since the start of commercial transport. and in the past five years, its been all airbus thats been crashing, and no boeing.BOEING for a fact has the best safety record counting one crash for every million plus flights, thats better than any plane maker. it's safe to say BOEING is safer.
char1eston 6 months ago
@char1eston lol have you even looked at the facts once? have you ever watched or read NTSB investigation results? Google search "Airliner Accidents and incidents caused by design or manufacturing errors", and click on the first link...
5 Boeing crashes
0 Airbus crashes
those numbers are 100% caused by the manufacturer, and as you can see Airbus is way safer
the4clusters 6 months ago
@char1eston Hmmm... 'all Airbus crashing'? Please look at the statistics over the last few years, and you'll see the rates are similar for both manufacturers. In fact, just two days ago, a 747-400F crashed, killing the crew, and today, a 737-800 did. Both were recent aircraft.
In fact, I decided to check your assertion for the last 5 years. Since 2006, there have been 10 fatal Airbus accidents, killing 996 people. In that same period, there were 21 fatal Boeing accidents, killing 1086.
Smoznizjev 6 months ago
@Smoznizjev Those 10 Airbus accidents would have had to have been full. Airbus Actually Currently should have a higher safety rating because there aircraft are more reliable. On Boeing the 737-800 The radio altimeter fails and there isnt a way to fix it. Boeing has tried everything and they cant figure it out. Airbus is more advanced in technology. if you look at the Airbus A380 you will see that there is very few papers in the cockpit for Checklist Airport maps. Anything
Silverpaw800 5 months ago
@char1eston Ok look through saftey records Airbus has crashed LESS than boeing has total. Learn to look up your facts before you comment
Silverpaw800 5 months ago
Rio Paris fail
lukasx12n 7 months ago
My friends brother alex bjoroy was in that flight and went to my school Clifton college
thehotchocolatelover 7 months ago
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WRONG....thats funny, cause I DID look at the stats. not just take the word for someone who says" look at the statistics. wikipedia org/wiki/Lists_of_accidents_and_incidents_on_commercial_airliners
boeing all the way. it also doesnt help you dont understand one has been in business FAR longer. use your brain.
glennjridge 7 months ago
i feel safer in airbuses than in boeings:))...take a look at statistics and see how many 737 and 747 have crashed with a huge number of victims and the look at airbus statistic and see how many A320 A310 A318 A340 A330 have crashed...and you'l see what im talking about;)
andrei7060 7 months ago
@andrei7060 Thats the fourth A330 crash and now Airbus is trying to blame it on pilot error when the fucking computer on A330s goes nuts they crash quit being an Aibus Fan and for once in your life admit the A330 is flying death trap with a psychotic computer flying it. Also never forget an Airbus A330 is a POS Piece Of Shit with two wings and if want fly on a plane with defective Pitot Tubes and a HAL 1000 AKA psychotic computer at the helm be be my guest and cut your wasted life short!
LottoWinner999 6 months ago
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@andrei7060 You should see what people are saying about you?
LottoWinner999 6 months ago
@andrei7060 look at wat masm60 said
pcblah 6 months ago
@andrei7060 obviously you don't know how to read statistics, unsurprisingly you're stupid enough to write that. guess you didn't learn math in school did you
shitty airbus
should have got in a Boeing
AdverbAdjective 6 months ago
@AdverbAdjective You are just a jerk. Airbus is more advanced the Boeing so that doesn't make it SHIT. Technically Airbus because of its more advanced it takes more skill to fly. But those who fly it are trained in way to handle anything the technology can throw at them. Boeing isn't the same way. Airbus learned from Boeing. When airbus began manufacturing Boeing had already done a lot for aviation so Airbus took the knowledge put it into there aircraft and said this will be safer. and it is
Silverpaw800 5 months ago
@Silverpaw800 I beg to differ on that. One of the highest time A330 pilots in the world is quoted as sayin gthe flt 447 senario was never done on a sim. He is not sure he could have regained control of the aircraft. Also to quote Dr Kathy Abbott, FAA human factors specialist: " "Failure assessment is difficult, failure recovery is difficult, and the failure modes were not anticipated by the designers."
sonex424 5 months ago
@Silverpaw800 Don't be so sure. They are different design philosophies. Boeing thinks the pilot should have the final authority. Airbus does not. Here is waht Dr Kathy Abbott FAA human factors specialist has to say: "Failure assessment is difficult, failure recovery is difficult, and the failure modes were not anticipated by the designers."
sonex424 5 months ago
pretty sure in the end the real reason the plane went down will be software trouble....like the AB that crashed at the Paris Airshow and the B-2 that crashed ect....I only mention that because the pilot turned control over to the Co-pilot after saying he "Had nothing over here" thinking that referd to the actual control of the plane...possibly the pitotube iced up or something and the software went haywire and overroad or ignored the pilots imputs to get it out of the stall'
usselliot76 7 months ago
@usselliot76 No Airbus ever crashed at the Paris Airshow. You're probably referring to the Habsheim crash, but that was pilot error, not software trouble.
Smoznizjev 6 months ago
@Smoznizjev Thean why did Airbus switch the FDR? I think it was to cover their ass.
sonex424 5 months ago
Wait, apparently the plane stalled over open waters right? First, werent they at cruzing altitude? If not every pilot should be trained to roll up at a 20 degree angle to get off the runway then retract the flaps and gear and then ascend at a 15 degree angle. What did they do to stall it?
obsession2eetbutter 7 months ago
All right boeing bashers what is going to happen when a A-380 falls because the pilots cant control it? is everybody come up with an excuse for that too.
MrCriticOfAll 8 months ago
@MrCriticOfAll Boeing bashers? I see only one manufacturer being bashed, and that's Airbus. By you! And wjile doing so, you have already shown a STAGGERING lack of knowledge about Airbus. I've shown you that repeatedly, and you've never been able to refute any of it. So what do you do? Stop responding to me, and simply start picking a fight with someone else, using the exact arguments I've already proven wrong. That shows you really don't care about facts, you just want a fight. Pathetic really.
Smoznizjev 7 months ago
@MrCriticOfAll exactly. the crap will hit the fan when a 380 goes down and airbus will be exposed for the pile of crap that they are. every proper pilot knows airbuses are shit. look at AF447, it just fell out of the sky and the dickwad pilots didnt even know they were stalling., LOL
plasticspastic201 7 months ago
its airbus a330 not a330 airbus dumbass
thetrainsrock 8 months ago
Woo hoo those racist putrid frenchies died in the Atlantic. Woo, woo, woo, woo.
hosdurga2011 8 months ago
@hosdurga2011 OMG you're just horrible. people died. and they were from 32 nationalities including americans. who are you to call the french racist? you are american thanks to the french. france came to save america when the british army was more powerful. if it wasn't for the french you would be british today. you won the independance thanks to them. show them respect. they also offered you a beautiful statue of liberty to celebrate their friendship and your independance.
MISSELO27 8 months ago
@MISSELO27 and thanks to america your not speaking my language german.
char1eston 6 months ago
@char1eston I know that my friend! but I never said bad things about america cause here in france we love them. read the commetn of this guy he was saying horrible things about us that's why I wanted to remember him that without us he wouldn't be american but british. france and america still exists thanks to each other! they are like the best friends but they are too stupid to admit it.
MISSELO27 6 months ago
@hosdurga2011
You piece of shit. Show some respect. Without the French, the United States wouldn't even exist. The French heritage in this country is MASSIVE, starting by the city you're living in. Gook.
lakoweb 8 months ago
@lakoweb Those frenchies were eating too many french fries and farting up in da plane. With the extra weight, the jet crashed straight down into the Atlantic. Now the poor fish are getting killed by all the methane build up in the deep waters.
hosdurga2011 7 months ago
@hosdurga2011
Yeah now, just go back playing with your farts, your weewee and your porn vids.
lakoweb 7 months ago
@lakoweb Monsier lakoweb,,,comment cava? Mon fart est smelllio. Ewwww,
hosdurga2011 7 months ago
@hosdurga2011
What are talking about? I'm from Brooklyn, cockfag. And "smelllio", rofl... Get a life now
lakoweb 7 months ago
hosdurga2011 7 months ago
@hosdurga2011
Hahaha, good job.
lakoweb 7 months ago
see latest news on aviation herald site-technical language...
a/c crashed stalled speed variation was from 275 -60 knots!!!...rate of descent more than 10000ft/min....these as per flight recorder findings...RIP
flyingxk 8 months ago
somebody i knew was on flight 447
drifter402 8 months ago
There was a spanish IBERIA (or something) passanger flight right after this air france plane but the pilot in that iberia plane made the decision to fly extra miles around that thunderstrom in order to avoid any discomfort...a wise decision on his part.
mianmitthu 8 months ago
@mianmitthu You'd be surprised.. apparently 2 out of 3 pilots would rather fly their planes into a thunderstorm as opposed to revert just to save time...
monstahhh12 8 months ago
Had to be on my birthday aswell, r.i.p
xxSarahGardinerxx 8 months ago
2 years after the crash, they finally determined the cause of the crash to be the HUGE thunderstorm AF447 flew into, the storm had very pure water called super cooled liquid water which only freezes when it makes contact with metal, such as the pitot tube of the A330. The pitot tube was blocked by ice forming on it, so the airspeed indicator doesn't work. The pilot don't know how fast they're going, and slowed the plane too much, and stalled the plane into the ocean. Its not Airbus's fault!
JundaComputersGmbH 8 months ago 17
@JundaComputersGmbH read my comment,...i agree with you
flyingxk 8 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH ur right... its the french we need to blame
angryman1007 5 months ago
@angryman1007 Why "the french" ? I would understand you blame the pilot but why French people ?
And just imagine yourself by night in a plane where u can't see your speed & altitude, you can't see outside to know approximately your altitude, you have stall alarms when you are going down. The only error pilots made is they rise the plane nose by 10° instead of 5° at the begining, after that i don't think any pilot would have been able to understand what was hapenning.
Xenom44 4 months ago
@Xenom44 pt1 tu te calme la bouffon
TheThunderpedro 4 months ago
@TheThunderpedro Euh si t'as pas compris l'anglais je disais que le pilote est peut être à blâmer mais pas les Français ;) Il a trop braqué l'avion au début de la perte des instruments ce qui a provoqué le décrochage, après avec les instruments qui ne répondaient pas, l'alarme de décrochage qui s'enlève alors que l'avion décroche apparemment toujours puis qui revient après, aucun pilote n'aurait pu rétablir l'avion.
Xenom44 4 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH The pitot systems was known to be problematic. There was a fix available. Air France chose not to fix it. They have since ALL been replaced on ALL A330s. BTW Both Airbus ans Air France have been charged with manslaughter. Better get your facts straight. And the final report is not out on the crash yet either.
sonex424 5 months ago
@sonex424 No you get your facts straight, the pitot tube alone would not have made AF447 crash, thats why it was unnecessary to fix it. It was also pilot error that made it crash, the experienced captain was not in the cockpit when the plane entered into a stall, the young inexperienced first officer was flying the plane, both the stall stick shaker and overspeed warning was on at the same time he didn't know what to do, he called captain back, when he came back they were a minute from impact
JundaComputersGmbH 5 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH I have mine right. The final accident report is not in. You seem to be formulating one. The aircraft was in "alternate law' Because of descrepencies in several systems. When in alternate llaw stall protection is lost. Pilots Almost never hand fly at that altitude and never with the autothrottles disengaged. Why? Because it's dam near impossible. The senario they found themselves in is not taught in simulator training.. Don't be so quick to judge.
sonex424 5 months ago
@sonex424 Sorry but as a real pilot I can say you: recognizing stalls and recovering from them are "more than basic" maneuvers. And sorry again, but... no, it is not impossible to fly a plane by hand on its entire flying envelope. That's why the pilots will ever have their jobs.
My main concern is: Who can assure the information provided by the computers express exactly what the pilots did? If the computers are right... no discussion anymore: pilots failed. But...
bernardirs 4 months ago
@bernardirs You obviously have never hand flown a jet at altitude. The statement I made can be verified by many Airbus and Boeing Pilots as well as Citation and Gulfstream pilots. They do not hand fly without autothrottles. Recovering from a deep stall in IMC with no AS and no warnings (when in alternate law warnings cease when AOA exceeds 30deg) In that aircraft would be something that no pilot would want to tackle and few would have a good outcome.
sonex424 4 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH So many YT experts. 1. the final report is not in. 2) the senario they found themselves in is never taught on the sim. (Airbus pilots' words not mine.) 3. in that senario auto trim automatically trims nose up. 4. Heavy pilots almost never hand fly at that altitude because it is extremely difficult. and NEVER do it with the autothrottles disengaged. 5. to recover from that situation in IMC with no AS and NO warnings. Is near impossible. Airbus needs better training.
sonex424 4 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH Could it be that???
Or could it be something else made the pitot tube blocked?
Take Birgenair 301 for example?
What caused one of the right pitot tubes to block?
A Insect.
It formed a nest....
Brazil is a place with exotic species..
badboiant29 4 months ago
@badboiant29 AF447's pitot tube was blocked by ice, formed by super cooled liquid water and Birgenair Flight 301 was pitot tube blocked by some kind of a wasp that made a nest in it when the plane parked outdoors for 25 days.
JundaComputersGmbH 4 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH well.. in a way it is Airbus's Fault since manufacturers are supposed to get around problems like these, those circumstances should have been reviewed even before the aircraft was put into service ...
TurbineProductionsX 4 months ago
@TurbineProductionsX The pitot tubes of that design where in the process of being replaced with better designs by airlines at the time of the accident. Airbus recommended the change, but as far as I'm aware they don't have the power to demand that the fleet is grounded until the changes are made, that has to come from a civil aviation organisation like the FAA or EASA.
AndrossKenobi 4 months ago
@JundaComputersGmbH So why weren't they aware of that huge thunderstorm? Are huge thunderstorms something planes usually go through and this "pure water" phenomenon is unlikely to occur?
MrOceanPenguin 3 months ago
I heard from a couple of my friends in the army that were involved in the search of flight 447 and they found evidence from the cockpit voice recorder which said the ever found which is bs they actually have found it and the data record and after analyzing both they have found put that flight 447 airbus a330 actually had suffered a catastrophic structule failure resulted the wings detaching from the plane which has never happened and airbus lied and said they dont know where flight 447 dissappe
MrBFbadcompany2 8 months ago
They should make commercial plane; not just personal planes with float bars on the bottom like sea planes so if they every did have to crash in the sea... they would have something to fall back on...
ArchangelFate 8 months ago
This happened because of the ice getting stuck in the pitotubes and caused the airplane to face many errors.
Ohm1100 8 months ago
Wasn't this later found and all 56 passengers were dead.
R.I.P
Ridhwanpop 8 months ago
They just now found the black box. 2 years later.
scoticus01 9 months ago
You are all suckers!!!!
ced90crl 9 months ago
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arthur5135 9 months ago
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Yes it is a load of old shit
Iphone4Isthebest 9 months ago
What a Load of old shit
Iphone4Isthebest 9 months ago
HAHAHAHA that thing is TINY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trainguy3 9 months ago
Congratulation for Airbus and Air France. They found the airplane wreckage at the bottom of Atlantic Ocean.
Chris58851 10 months ago
@Chris58851 Well thats a good place for a plane to be all because it choked on ice.Great engineering real smart .
MrCriticOfAll 8 months ago
@MrCriticOfAll Well the initial investigation was to blame inconsistent data provided by sensors that allows pilot to make mistakes. However after the black box was recovered, pilot action and autopilot was the primary topic right now. So more mysteries hasn't solve yet.
Chris58851 8 months ago
@Chris58851 So what ever happened to the pilots skill to be able to fly a broken plane.
MrCriticOfAll 8 months ago
@MrCriticOfAll Further recording also indicate pilot errors in attempt to save the jet. Latest news from investigator suggest that pilot making input error by stalling the jet with nose up angle. Even Airbus design engines to respond in stalling situation, the airspeed are not sufficient enough from preventing aircraft to make a rapid side turn. Before the impact, the pilots are making their final solution to regain nose up position again but fail.
Chris58851 7 months ago
Respond to this video...In an accident that should never of happened.
MrCriticOfAll 8 months ago
doesnt matter who had more crashes lives were lost bottom line
B777X 10 months ago
if you hear france you know it will end up badly
Gino4532 10 months ago
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AngelioCecilaau780 10 months ago
When developing the software for the control system, three teams work independently on each of the triple redundancy computers. Not just one! Then they go and fit three airspeed sensors of the same type .... if one has a snag, bet the others will too.... there was a replacement programme running to cure a snag, but it seems that they all quit together. Didja know that even on VW engines, the magneto belts had to be replaced alternately so that they were unlikely to fail together? Not obvious.
SuperAviatar 10 months ago
RIP for all those people that have lost their lives.
-did he just day "just" a little smaller than a 747? I Believe the 747 is way bigger.
Techno04335 11 months ago
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owenowen 11 months ago
ko vas jebe... padajte
Jecka370 1 year ago
oh my god
taxona100 1 year ago
Neither the majority of the airframe nor its occupants were found. The plane disintegrated in midflight so they would have been scattered as they fell. Keep using composites on airframes. Pitot systems have super heaters in the tubes. I doubt it was pitot tube obstruction by ice alone. It is more likely they flew into turbulence that exceeeded the airframe's load limits. You can't fly without wings. They should have gone around the weather or delayed it in consultation their flight center.
vector19X 1 year ago
@vector19X The airplane was intact until it hit the water at a rate of descent of 10,000ft/min. Logic would dictate your thoughts until they found the FDR and CVR. Many questions answered, but many more unanswered.
sonex424 4 months ago
i'm affraid this will remain a mystery of what actually caused the crash. I'm sure that the investigators are being truthful
1982FMJ 1 year ago
@1982FMJ for me its quite obvious that the Pitot system is responsible for that. That already happened for a very similar accident..
Alltimeboxing 1 year ago
@Alltimeboxing a pitot system failure would not make the aircraft unable to fly you would just lose the pitot static instruments. This must of been somethign extremly bad
1982FMJ 1 year ago
@1982FMJ that already happened. I think its the automatic pilot that calculates its speed only with the Pitot system. If something is stuck inside (ice, hornets...) that can lead to false indications of speed, especially by night, with bad weather and no visibility. Too low speed and you fall, too high speed and you desintegrate, is that bad enough for you ?
Alltimeboxing 1 year ago
@Alltimeboxing gps can determine an aircrafts altitude and ground speed. this must of been something more severe
1982FMJ 1 year ago
@1982FMJ the AP uses the Pitot only. And Air France pilots went on strike afterwards until the Pitot systems were replaced. I told you about the previous accident, after this one they changed the Pitot on Boeings only. They had to kill more than 200 others on this AF flight to change it on Airbus. But still I'm not sure the problem is fixed today. You're talking about more severe but if you are totally wrong on the speed u are going in such airplanes, this IS indeed a very very severe failure.
Alltimeboxing 1 year ago
@1982FMJ Birgenair flight 301 got brought down by a wasp in the pitot. The autopilot was getting an overspeed signal and pitched up and reduced throttle. the autopilot then reached the limits and disengaged. the instruments said 350 knots but by then they were actually about to stall. they increased power but they were too slow and nose up, and an engine stalled. it then got into upside down spin and crashed into a sea. not that this was what happened but a pitot tube failure can be serious
petey815 1 year ago
@Alltimeboxing it isn't obvious at all. how can you say its obvious? you sound very naieve saying its obvious when the authorities have admitted they haven't got a dam clue what caused this
1982FMJ 1 year ago
Did they ever find this plane? I remember hearing all about it, dont remember hearing an ending to the story.
clayton7m 1 year ago
I hate this plate on the lower part of a screen! why don't they take it away?
Anrey0101 1 year ago
@xxxxemo4everxxxx normally i would have given you a thumbss up, but youre a jerk here too.
johnathon124 1 year ago
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1982FMJ 1 year ago
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Fuck You
Pisztu 1 year ago
@Pisztu thank you!
TheFreeKosovo 1 year ago
Just wait until some airline losses a fully loaded Airbus 380.
49bobbyk 1 year ago
@49bobbyk It still wont be worst than tenerife, where two 747 crashed together...
alezlesbleus 1 year ago
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@49bobbyk quit jinxing fuck man go back to your moms basement
johnmunoz18 1 year ago
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the plane got abducted by aliens!!! lol =P
deadmansvoice 1 year ago
This video has caused me to question my priorities in life and I have decided to never see any more videos by easywaytv. Sayanora!
DohaRoha 1 year ago
What is up with Air France and crashes. The one in Toronto, the Concorde crash the auto pilot computer crash and then this one. What a unlucky airline. No offense, I'm just saying.
yomamasapeach 1 year ago
@yomamasapeach Well, if you're just saying, you could also know AF is doing 1800 flights a day desserving 244 destinations so of course it increases the risk of incident. If you look at statistics (incident per hour of flight), AF has approximatively the same results as the other great airlines.... So, with such a development, I wouldn't call that Airline"unlucky". Medias just love to criticize Air France and Airbus because they know it's thanks to them that Airbus is so important now.
clarinetman1664 1 year ago
Airbus is born on 1970, boeing is born on 1915 (only 50 years of difference): there is more experience in flight and in airplane construction between 2 wars too: for this is more high percentual of accidents only because Boeing is born first.
tubovskij 1 year ago
Because Boeing is more older than Airbus!
tubovskij 1 year ago
First Crash ever with a A330! :O Best PLANE EVER!
ViperLoverU 1 year ago
rip <33
Zronxziq 1 year ago
is this the one where they find the chip
manreetful 1 year ago
fly safe, fly Boeing!!!!!
tubovskij 1 year ago
@tubovskij boeig have had way more crashes than airbus
adamboeing737 1 year ago 26
@adamboeing737 Indeed they have, they've been around longer.
But I'm still rooting or Boeing!
Musket300 1 year ago
@adamboeing737 site your sources please
muffinman2874 1 year ago
@adamboeing737 oh and either way, engineering flaws or construction defects are such a tiny fraction of the cause of accidents, it's hardly even fair to compare them like that. Most aircraft accidents in general are caused by pilot error. Following that, in the airline industry, it is maintenance errors. Airlines are a black hole for money and they cut as many corners as they can get away with.
muffinman2874 1 year ago
@adamboeing737 up to just the last few decades Boeing held much more market share than AirBus. More planes flying, more chance for something to go wrong.
Kiraina 1 year ago
@adamboeing737 Thats because boeing is older.
SAMCAMJAIK1 1 year ago
@adamboeing737 probably because they don't have a computer doing the work
petey815 1 year ago
@adamboeing737 But Boeing has been building planes since 1916. The more planes you produce the more crashes you will have.
masm60 1 year ago 18
@masm60
So did all the former companies of Airbus.
lakoweb 8 months ago
@masm60 If Arbus Fans want to fly on A330 with with defective Pitot Tubes and a HAL 1000 AKA psychotic computer at the helm let the stubborn Eurotards die and cut their lifes short. These idiots have no idea about aircraft and the Moron andre7060 ALA Romainian is a prime candidate for the Darwin Award. The worlds better without the Pro-Airbus-Eurotards so let them be lemmings and their the ones who will be screaming while falling form 38,000 feet save me Lord and next time I will fly Boeing.
LottoWinner999 6 months ago
@LottoWinner999 i didn't even need to look at your profile to tell your an American.
and Darwin was European, i believe you're up for the G.W.Bush award.
jonnygb4 6 months ago
@masm60 Technically It May not be that. With the way they produce the release one a day but... They learn more about that aircraft so the more the produce the safer it can be
Silverpaw800 6 months ago
@adamboeing737 do u know y? ! boeing has more crashes beacuse it has many more planes than airbus what I mean is that boeing is older thats Y dont u think how about lets say a plane company started 2 years ago how many plane crashes You think it may have??? maybe 1,2 or 3 beacuse it hasent manufacter that many planes hope you get it boeing is older so its has many more crashes than airbus and im a boeing,airbus fan :)
fabianvelazquez1 11 months ago
@adamboeing737
Boeing has also been in business a lot longer than Airbus.
nitrouselement 11 months ago
@adamboeing737 There are way more Boeings flying. If you look at the accident rates, Boeings have the same amout of accidents as Airbus equivelants.
blueb0g 10 months ago
@adamboeing737 Boeing is a much older company than Airbus. Of course it's had more crashes.
JET997u 10 months ago