Fuckin' " white rapper". That's some funny shit. El is a fucking beast...period. Dude eats faces man, straight from limbo. Killing the beats and lyrics.
FUCK EMINEM STOP BRINGING HIS DUMBASS UP ON EVERY WHITE RAPPERS PAGE!! ITS LIKE YALL MUTHA FUCKAS OBSESSED WITH DUDE. HES A SELL OUT RAPPER< THIS DUDE IS HIP HOP PERIOD.
Fuck if he's the best. Eminem did some ill shit as well, so has El-p, Aesop Rock, Cage, even the most debated; Lil Wayne, did spit fire as well and so on and so on... I like em all regardless of skin colour. Hatin' on the mainstream is the new mainstream so fuck you, be an individual!
@kwyjibosinkus In terms of @ THEIR ABSOLUTE PRIME, Em: 96/97-02/early 03 is HANDS DOWN the DOPEST & I've heard NUMEROUS ILL white MCs agree w/ this. From Diabolic (REAL ill underground white MC), 2 ILL Bill, 2 Apathy, 2 Copywrite, 2 Brother Ali (I say he's white, even though he's an albino and SOME say he's black. Not true), 2 Slug. RESEARCH quotes from ALL TIME legends like G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Monch, Common, Redman 2 name a few on EM IN HIS PRIME b-c in diff ways they ALL say he's 1 of the GOAT
In terms of @ THEIR ABSOLUTE ILLEST, Em: 96/97-02/early 03 is HANDS DOWN the DOPEST & I've heard NUMEROUS nice white MCs agree w/ this. From Diabolic (REAL ill underground white MC), 2 ILL Bill, 2 Apathy, 2 Copywrite, 2 Brother Ali (I say he's white, even though he's an albino and SOME say he's black. Not true), 2 Slug. RESEARCH quotes from ALL TIME legends like Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Monch, Common, Redman to name a few on EM IN HIS PRIME b-c in diff ways they ALL say he's one of the illest
Color does matter. If the majority of people who buy hip hop is 70% white then obviously more consumers are going to culturally identify with a white rapper than a black rapper. Most of the popular mainstream black rappers today are nothing more than minstrel acts propagated by the industry (black people don't own viacom). I really don't think when you get to a certain class of rap that anyone's better they just have different styles and people are receptive to them depending on their tastes.
1st off there are TOO MANY dope white MCs to count. 2nd color dont matter. That myth is dead. honestly most black rappers today suck. It's all about proving something instead of proving just something. EL P is just the realest dude in the game. He has never compromised. The tightest rappers have made some stupid crossover trax. Fellille is right, except Em fell off along time ago for me. Once you go major your style is compromised but I respect Em for removing the myth that whites cant rap.
You can't ignore Ultramagnetic MCs, from Critical Beatdown to the Four Horsemen. People forget they played there own instruments ( Kool Keith's a sick bassist) and Ced Gee is credited off the record for producing the majority of BDP's Criminal Minded...
It is hard to put anyone over a giant like Eminem, but I think I agree with whomever said that El-P is the best white rapper. The man is a true hiphop legend, and a mogul in his own right. He is at the top of a game that he made up the rules to. He never jumped through anyone elses' hoops to get where he is, but instead succeeded on a strong work ethic and confidence in his knowledge of how hiphop artists feel about hiphop. It is the latter that has brought def jux such a mighty roster.
like who? DEL is the shit. Canibal Ox comes to mind...but anything else? Dont you dare fuckin bring up Aesop rock with his jibberish nonsense, not to say FLOAT and Labor Days werent dope. But I still stand with what i said.
Cage, Mr. Lif, Rob Sonic, Can Ox, Aesop Rock (even if you don't feel him), Company Flow, C Rayz Walz, RJD2, the Perceptionists, Murs all pressed shit through Def Jux and were label mates or still are. That's a pretty fucking ridiculous roster. Only Babygrande, Rhymeslayers and Rawkus could fuck with a roster like that, and thats Rawkus way back in the day when they had Company Flow.
You couldn't name many more sick dominating labels.
I'd rather hear clever, artful abstraction that literal stupidity. Being able to follow every word of a verse does not make it good, just as not getting all of it does not make it bad. Poems have poetry in them, after all. Its interesting how offended people sometimes get by things they don't understand. You're all like "I wanted to listen to music, not think!" How dull.
never said that, i used listen to sole and buck 65 talk about poetry in rhymes. Ive listened and thought about aesop rock, i mean what do you want me to say, you say artful abstraction? to some degree, but thats just my opinion about him.
@jcuenco1106 u need to sus out some of the aussie white rappers there not my fav but are better than this el-p guy. check out bliss and esso. or hilltop hoodz.
hey why did you re upload it? i already had it up, in case you didn't know. Whatever I guess it's good to have 2 up more than one. especially cause its such a great song.
i miss eyedea.
syer5437 5 months ago
Reunion show at Santos was ill.
nonehaver 5 months ago
Fuckin' " white rapper". That's some funny shit. El is a fucking beast...period. Dude eats faces man, straight from limbo. Killing the beats and lyrics.
toadslayer72 5 months ago
and whoever said he sounds like mfdoom is fucking out of their mind, get a q-tip cuz thats ridiculoid
Thejesseaddem 6 months ago
@Thejesseaddem uhh...sorry, toots. but there are similarities...
eyesmayshine 3 months ago
ever heard aesop rock?
straight next level cat that none can step to
Thejesseaddem 6 months ago
soo ahead of its time...
BigL2502 7 months ago
FUCK EMINEM STOP BRINGING HIS DUMBASS UP ON EVERY WHITE RAPPERS PAGE!! ITS LIKE YALL MUTHA FUCKAS OBSESSED WITH DUDE. HES A SELL OUT RAPPER< THIS DUDE IS HIP HOP PERIOD.
ElBoogieAmworld 7 months ago 2
Fuck if he's the best. Eminem did some ill shit as well, so has El-p, Aesop Rock, Cage, even the most debated; Lil Wayne, did spit fire as well and so on and so on... I like em all regardless of skin colour. Hatin' on the mainstream is the new mainstream so fuck you, be an individual!
christoawp 8 months ago
@kwyjibosinkus In terms of @ THEIR ABSOLUTE PRIME, Em: 96/97-02/early 03 is HANDS DOWN the DOPEST & I've heard NUMEROUS ILL white MCs agree w/ this. From Diabolic (REAL ill underground white MC), 2 ILL Bill, 2 Apathy, 2 Copywrite, 2 Brother Ali (I say he's white, even though he's an albino and SOME say he's black. Not true), 2 Slug. RESEARCH quotes from ALL TIME legends like G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Monch, Common, Redman 2 name a few on EM IN HIS PRIME b-c in diff ways they ALL say he's 1 of the GOAT
jthesnake77 9 months ago
In terms of @ THEIR ABSOLUTE ILLEST, Em: 96/97-02/early 03 is HANDS DOWN the DOPEST & I've heard NUMEROUS nice white MCs agree w/ this. From Diabolic (REAL ill underground white MC), 2 ILL Bill, 2 Apathy, 2 Copywrite, 2 Brother Ali (I say he's white, even though he's an albino and SOME say he's black. Not true), 2 Slug. RESEARCH quotes from ALL TIME legends like Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Monch, Common, Redman to name a few on EM IN HIS PRIME b-c in diff ways they ALL say he's one of the illest
jthesnake77 9 months ago
@jthesnake77 apathy? really?
gramOneEpoha 8 months ago
I am 34, black and from NYC. Fuck race, EL-P is one of the best MC's I have ever heard.
kmovado 10 months ago 5
woah, so el p totally sounds like mf grimm. except a little better.
000BatFuck000 10 months ago
:-)
ROMAJAM 11 months ago
JamieMELENE aka White Inches!!!!!!!do you think this is a reference to a WILLIE D ryme? EL PRODUCTO
Grizzletopz 11 months ago
111 vs 1 ... u looooseeee
G60EXTREM 11 months ago
El-P is one dope lyricist.
AYEMang 1 year ago
wtf happened to hip hop? this was the golden era
steelio82 1 year ago
someone put this up for DL!
tattamarigaloo 1 year ago
@tattamarigaloo get vdownloader
sorstyle 1 year ago
Color does matter. If the majority of people who buy hip hop is 70% white then obviously more consumers are going to culturally identify with a white rapper than a black rapper. Most of the popular mainstream black rappers today are nothing more than minstrel acts propagated by the industry (black people don't own viacom). I really don't think when you get to a certain class of rap that anyone's better they just have different styles and people are receptive to them depending on their tastes.
Hannibalonthejazz 1 year ago 2
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wack
RealHipHopSucks93 1 year ago
When you hear good hip hop not rap music, color shouldnt even come across your brain...
klf9228 1 year ago
@klf9228 thats y only real headz recognize... wannabe fakes have no idea how to act when they hear the real hip hop...
Gotalighter 1 year ago
1st off there are TOO MANY dope white MCs to count. 2nd color dont matter. That myth is dead. honestly most black rappers today suck. It's all about proving something instead of proving just something. EL P is just the realest dude in the game. He has never compromised. The tightest rappers have made some stupid crossover trax. Fellille is right, except Em fell off along time ago for me. Once you go major your style is compromised but I respect Em for removing the myth that whites cant rap.
PumaSweat 1 year ago 2
somebody can tell me the original sample????
metrostarsrap 1 year ago
Why does every hip hop conversation get reduced to who is the best.
kmovado 1 year ago
the 1 person that gave this thumbs down is a DICK. this joint is FIRE. give me a thumbs up if u feel me. CO-FLOW FA LIFE!
settnfires 1 year ago
spaccaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
TheSmantek 1 year ago
Black white don't matter... el-p rocks...
This from Greece where peoples is fucked regardless of colour... thank you IMF
xouat 1 year ago 4
dammnn smoooth
MicGeronimO1 1 year ago
el p is kinda weird. good beats tho.
niccsacc 1 year ago
and youve probly never heard this but thats why your lacking in culture!
EarlGreyL 1 year ago
damn th1s shit 1s s1ck 3s3 hell yeah is this El P 94?
everton26ful 1 year ago
this and 8 steps are the smoothest co flow tracks
fookii99 1 year ago
"Believe when I rock even Spock 'll catch feelings."
thirdshift47 1 year ago
I got the Funcrusher Plus LP on fuckin vinyl. Sickness. Sometimes I just like to stare at it, lol.
aelproductions 1 year ago 4
el-p threw this on the new funcrusher+ rerelease vinyl
mindbocks 2 years ago
this aint on funcrusher plus....shit is extinct unless you got it on vtape or wax
iiNDiTC 2 years ago
you said it best homie thats the truth !! \\//
CEASONE77 2 years ago
@drgoreface ...and Freestyle Fellowship
LanceVanceThug 2 years ago
You can't ignore Ultramagnetic MCs, from Critical Beatdown to the Four Horsemen. People forget they played there own instruments ( Kool Keith's a sick bassist) and Ced Gee is credited off the record for producing the majority of BDP's Criminal Minded...
Hannibalonthejazz 2 years ago 3
yeah, they are very unique too. they had the funkiest and most original concepts in the 80s.
LanceVanceThug 2 years ago
damn i didnt know keith played any instruments. but yeah, ultra was very influential
nemesis700 1 year ago
you all need to listen to indivisableprincipal.I QUOTE AND CORRECT.hiphop would be lost without co flow
MrTripleoptic 2 years ago
this is a fuckin great tune,ooops my cock just sneazed
MrTripleoptic 2 years ago
fuckin sick,greatings from Poland, respect.
scarface1212121212 2 years ago
ppl who dont know Co-flow are lost ...
.....just my opinion though
IndivisiblePrinciple 2 years ago 7
straight ill
bitchesandblunts1 2 years ago
Nice. I never heard this one. I wish Co Flow never broke up.
MisanthropikOne 2 years ago 8
absolutely keynote beats and rhymes of their time.
Squizeto 2 years ago
buena rola.
pionyang 2 years ago
this beat is the 5th element of hip hop.
Nurosyz 2 years ago 5
big juss is one of the dopest
dapoedog 2 years ago
Definetly... during that era.
Poor peoples day sucked ass.
skalanthrax 2 years ago
@skalanthrax Poor People's Day was sick - The overall mix down sucked though.
bazookafluke 1 year ago
Bonified Classic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kelvo777 2 years ago
Classic!!!
KoolTeddyX 2 years ago
maaan this is ill
dillydrake 2 years ago
Yo I could chill to this beat all DAY!
RealHHLIVES 2 years ago 4
Nice work. keep it up. mean time come for social media marketing for esteembpo**com
kllsms 2 years ago
oh man. every time i listen to this song it reminds me of 11th grade. great times
sucramnipp 2 years ago
hardest elp ever gone on a track, ever. and im a die hard fan of def jux..bigups manhattan
iiNDiTC 2 years ago 2
Negatory, my man. The hardest El-P ever came was on 89.9 Detrimental/Vital Nerve. That was pure raw...so raw you gotta say rawr like the GZA.
shud1 2 years ago 2
El-P is a genius ;)
RealHHLIVES 2 years ago
It is hard to put anyone over a giant like Eminem, but I think I agree with whomever said that El-P is the best white rapper. The man is a true hiphop legend, and a mogul in his own right. He is at the top of a game that he made up the rules to. He never jumped through anyone elses' hoops to get where he is, but instead succeeded on a strong work ethic and confidence in his knowledge of how hiphop artists feel about hiphop. It is the latter that has brought def jux such a mighty roster.
fellille 2 years ago 26
Uh..true, yeah i guess...but where is he now? Not to say hes not around, just not fond at all of what hes become and/or doing
mrdeejay 2 years ago
You're not fond of the entire def jux record label?
....
That's a lot of awesome to not be fond of.
fellille 2 years ago
like who? DEL is the shit. Canibal Ox comes to mind...but anything else? Dont you dare fuckin bring up Aesop rock with his jibberish nonsense, not to say FLOAT and Labor Days werent dope. But I still stand with what i said.
mrdeejay 2 years ago
Cage, Mr. Lif, Rob Sonic, Can Ox, Aesop Rock (even if you don't feel him), Company Flow, C Rayz Walz, RJD2, the Perceptionists, Murs all pressed shit through Def Jux and were label mates or still are. That's a pretty fucking ridiculous roster. Only Babygrande, Rhymeslayers and Rawkus could fuck with a roster like that, and thats Rawkus way back in the day when they had Company Flow.
You couldn't name many more sick dominating labels.
Desarollo 2 years ago
You forgot Fondle Em'.
xxjaberwockyxx 2 years ago
I'd rather hear clever, artful abstraction that literal stupidity. Being able to follow every word of a verse does not make it good, just as not getting all of it does not make it bad. Poems have poetry in them, after all. Its interesting how offended people sometimes get by things they don't understand. You're all like "I wanted to listen to music, not think!" How dull.
fellille 2 years ago
"I wanted to listen to music, not think!" ....
never said that, i used listen to sole and buck 65 talk about poetry in rhymes. Ive listened and thought about aesop rock, i mean what do you want me to say, you say artful abstraction? to some degree, but thats just my opinion about him.
mrdeejay 2 years ago
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didafan08 1 year ago
@fellille Who the fuck is EMINERD?
meetthemiez 1 year ago
i noticed this was on the cassette and not on the cd....dopness. co-flow forever!!!
AspeQt 2 years ago
i love this shit so much....
Rendwon 2 years ago 2
Too iLL!!!!!
Real Shit Bro!!!
7PietroNe1 2 years ago
dopeness
crooks94castles 2 years ago 2
this shit has gived to me too much...
they has been like no one.
Sincerely i dont like the last music from el p,mr len is disappear..maybe the best is gone.
much respect
bmfitt 2 years ago
you make no sense.
newlagoon 2 years ago
You write like a retard, bmfitt.
Comprised 2 years ago
ehi dickhead english is not my native language.
sometimes i make mistakes.suck it.
bmfitt 2 years ago 2
thanks for this been looking for it
ghostface411 2 years ago
Had to get the Vinyl since the CD didnt have this classic track when it came out.
zoloftboy 3 years ago 4
CLASSIC!! I was 16 going on 17 when I heard this....
kelvo777 3 years ago 2
i think el-p is the beat white rapper there is
jcuenco1106 3 years ago 22
@jcuenco1106 do you know of miilkbone????? you know.... "keep it real" look up DA MIILKCRATE album
KickBack90sBeats 1 year ago
@jcuenco1106 miilkbone is IMO, but this guy comes in at a close second
KickBack90sBeats 1 year ago
@jcuenco1106 why did you specify "white"? thats dumb. hes one the best rappers there is. color dont matter.
spoonforleg 1 year ago
@jcuenco1106 u need to sus out some of the aussie white rappers there not my fav but are better than this el-p guy. check out bliss and esso. or hilltop hoodz.
kirkikane 11 months ago
tHiS bEaTz FuCkIn SiCk!
puffdalah 3 years ago
hey why did you re upload it? i already had it up, in case you didn't know. Whatever I guess it's good to have 2 up more than one. especially cause its such a great song.
UplowdaOvDef 3 years ago
El-P true hip-hop genius.
to0nstyle 3 years ago 4
El-P & Def Jux Living Legends ; )
FunCrusher303 3 years ago
no, sorry
i can't find it either, this is just a MP3 file i found and uploaded :)
TheDailyOperator 3 years ago
@TheDailyOperator Dope upload - props crate diggah! I just wanted to ask if there's instrumental anywhere available... ?
MonstaMob 1 year ago
very nice.. thx a lot
would love to find that EP for sure =D
any links? lol
Maurice1340d 3 years ago