@KingLazerman Director Fukuda did state that Kira's "NT Flash" was an homage to UC Gundam and that Kira was NOT a Newtype. However, Fukuda ALSO stated that Mu and Rau were Newtypes.
Which leaves us at NTs do in fact exist in CE...just that Kira isn't one of them.
@Weltall8000 wait, but in the series its stated that mu was a regular Natural, not NT, and Rau was a clone, if rau is a NT, wont that make rey a NT too? since they are exact replicas of each other?
@Kasaidon Mu IS a Natural...and a Newtype. Chances are they (in the fictional CE universe) don't know what a NT is or even call them as such. Hell, in UC, Newtypes existed but knowledge of them wasn't widespread until the idea made popular by Zeon.
Rey is reasoned (pretty understandably so) to be a NT as well, as I stated earlier.
@chaniey01 show's how much you know, Newtypes originated in the original Gundam. Newtypes make more sense than Coordinators. SeeD is a garbage retelling of the Universal Century. Take that stick and shove it up your ass.
@VictoryZetaMKII all universal century gundam series are the true garbage and had the worst animations in the history of anime world plus its old so let uc rest in peace its seed video here anyway not uc so fuck offf on this vid you dont belong here uc nerd looser
@VictoryZetaMKII How the hell would newtypes make more sense? Coordinators are genetically modified people. Newtypes are people who evolved from living in space so long. If you ask me, Messing with genetics to make someone smarter and stronger seems a lot more logical then some random evolution in space.
@GODSofBATTLE they are genetically modified to understand a mobile suits OS? Genetically Modified to unlock some "SeeD Mode Hi-MAT kill everything off with stock footage" Yes, totally logical then a step forward in human evolution, totally.
As far as which is more realistic, I'd say both are. We are getting into the field of genetics in recent decades and have been able to more and more closely manipulate the traits of things such as plants and yes, even people. Though, in a rudimentary capacity, beings on Earth have been contriving what genes get passed on via natural instincts as a part of natural selection. (Strongest male breeds with all the females, focus on raising the healthiest offspring, etc)
@Weltall8000 Well, you've covered the newtype portion, and I agree with you, however, if newtypes bred with other newtypes, and had children that were newtypes, and the chain continued. That potential would be considered a form of evolution. Altering genetics in a way that lets one unlock a sort of 'hidden potential' in machines that wasn't built into them, what coordinators do. IS farfetched.
@VictoryZetaMKII As far as NT goes, what I'm saying is that NT ability is a bit of both nature and nurture. Like intelligence has the two components in it, some people have a higher natural affinity for intelligence than others, another aspect of it is the environment the person in question is subjected to, do they study and refine their intelligence? What we end up with is a composite of those two very broad categories.
NT seems to be a matter of the both, with some individuals having a higher
affinity toward it and the circumstances they are subjected to affect the level of their abilities. Such that we see a trend with NTs that are in war, increase quite a bit in NT power and in general less so if they don't go to war. Not to say it is war in and of itself that does it, but perhaps the use of the powers or its necessity of it or whatever.
No, what they are doing with Coordinators is not far fetched. Coordinators are people with just very good genes in general.
Many of them are born with a higher capacity for intelligence or physical attributes. Just like some children are child prodigies or natural athletes, they have a higher potential, which if refined properly, is unmatched by one who tries hard, but doesn't have that natural talent due to genes. Back to the nature and nurture, Coordinators have the nature in the bag, if they refine it, they are almost guaranteed to excel above what an unmodified Natural will, that's just how it works.
@Weltall8000 but, you're not accounting for the Coordinator being able to increase the performance of the mobile suit itself, which is still far fetched.
@VictoryZetaMKII They don't enhance the ability of the MS in and of the fact that they are Coordinators. In Kira case, it isn't because he is a Coordinator, it is because he reprogrammed the OS and altered the settings mid-battle to enhance performance of his MS.
@VictoryZetaMKII Seed Mode is described by director Fukuda as "a physical representation of surpassing one's own limits" however, that is the pilot, not the MS. Basically think of an adrenaline rush, in MS piloting, the mental aspect of such an adrenaline rush. Which does increase the pilots' perception and reaction time, which in turn makes the MS perform better, but that is because you effectively have a more able pilot, piloting it.
@GODSofBATTLE NT really seems more akin to the idea of an awakening of human potential, not so much an actual physical evolution. Some people are naturally more prone to awakening and circumstances can affect it greatly, kind of like NTs. Really thinking about it, NT doesn't seem so far fetched, having computers that can pick up on brain waves in tech like the psychocommu seems more like a matter of "when" rather than "if."
@Weltall8000 there are already prototypes of machines that read human brainwaves, I believe there is a mobile chair, more specifically, in development to do just this, so you're definitely right here.
@chaniey01 Somebody clearly hasn't seen Gundam Unicorn.
When you complain about UC's animation, you have to take into account what the standard was at its time, most of them really weren't bad for the time they were made. And frankly, the only Gundam aside from Unicorn which stood out as exceptionally well animated was 00.
Well, without UC, there would be no CE, they also bear the Gundam name, so talk of UC or comparisons between the two, isn't really that far fetched.
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The haters try to use garbage arguments about programming and other nonsense. I bet they dont even know what API means, the difference between synchronous and asynchronous code execution and the fact that there are different types of aimbots. Some ppl are just trying to look for an excuse to downplay Kira's skill. Anyone who says Kira always using "aimbot" dont know anything and are morons who dont know what ignorance is. If they did, they would say it. 2 1 year ago
and how come on all gundam series y did only gudam 00 and gundam seed/destiny came out wit good graphics unlike g gundam and winged even tou to be honest i kinda didnt like winged much like 00 and seed
Al Da Flaga funded the genetic experiments that produced both Rau and Kira, possibly they may share a portion of Al's genetic code/material. It may be possible he is a "newtype" since Rau,Rey,Kira and Mwu can sense each other during battle.
Kira is a Ultimate Coordinator and Developing Newtype.
Newtypes in the Cosmic Era are far behind that in the Univeral Century Timeline. Kira is at the point where he can sense the presense of other newtypes such as Rau Lu Crusset and Mu La Flaga
@chaniey01 Rau and Kira do not have the same DNA. Rau is a clone of Al DaFlagga. Kira was one of Dr. Hibiki's own twins, taken from his pregnant wife's womb.
There is a little bit of reasonable speculation that Kira might have been developing into a NT from the series, but that's shot down by Fukuda who states that Kira isn't a NT as Rau and Mu are the last remaining NTs (though after this statement Rey and Prayer are revealed.)
@Weltall8000 : I always had that niggling feeling if they had that "newtype flash", it may or not be the hint that they share Al Da Flaga's genes since they are able to sense each other.
@Passwordcom Kira doesn't have Al's genes at all. Mu is his child (with a woman, naturally) while Rau is a clone of Al (thus having identical genes to Al, unlike Mu).
I really do think it is a bit ambiguous in light of all the evidence with Kira though. While Fukuda did state Kira isn't a NT, Mu and Rau are, we still have Kira seemingly sensing Mu/Neo in GSD 32. It doesn't really make much sense, but at the end of the day, Fukuda did say Kira isn't a NT, so that's what I roll with.
@Ownage, not really since Cyber Newtypes have the abilities of new types, i.e. the ability to sense other new types etc.
A Coordinator is a geneticly modified human, which results in higher physical ability and enhanced mental ability. Allowing them to pilot mobile suits more efficiently. However they have no 'special' abilities.
@GriffCannon90 explosions in space are pink, probably because of the lack of oxigeon in space. and i could also be because there is a special particle in space that changes the colour. if that ain't the cause, beets me why
@13DJX13 noo, that's in case of fire... wait... isn't an explosion a fast burst of fire? damn!!!! maybe because bandai thought that pink was prettier?
@SearingFlamesDragon no, that can't be it. maybe because of the fuel that inside the mobile suits. and the oxygen inside the mobile suits(duh, how can pilots breath in space otherwise?)
all gundam space models do not have air inside the cockpit. In case you missed the hint, Kira and Athrun once opened their cockpit in space (the scene where lacus cline is being returned to Athrun). If there was air in the cockpit, space would suck them up instantly because of the vacuum effect.
Pilots of gundam usually have oxygen recycling tank attached to their suit. Hence you can obviously see it the gray tank sticking out from their back.
@441meatloaf do not have air inside the cockpit.? but how can you explain. some of the characters piloting a mobile suit in space without wearing any spacesuits? if there is no air inside the cockpit they should be dead.
also pink can be caused not because of fuel, but because of heat energy. The so called "laser beams" arent lasers. They are plasma. Depending on the reaction agents, (neon typically emits blue light), and there are other plasma's that emit other colours. But the most common one is reddish pink.
wow that some guys really discuss about technical spezifications of gundams. this is only fictional, ya know? have fun with a great series with great charas
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Those laser turrets that fly off and shoot people from a distance.. how they do physically work? defies the laws of physics.. Big ass gundams on nuke power, maybe.. tiny flying lasers that can destroy ships and move faster than light, I don't think so..
I just chalk this up to being one of those things that are just to be taken for granted. "This is the technology, it works, live with it" sort of idea. What actually propels the DRAGOON units, I have no idea, but it's one of those things I can just overlook, because it doesn't really matter, in this fictional reality, this technology works.
The DRAGOONS do not move at the speed of light though, they are quick and nimble, but nowhere near that fast.
Yes, I understand that nothing technical makes sense, but these dragoon units you call them, defy logic. They are so nimble and pack a lot power, why don't they just have a fleet of them? That's why it doesn't make sense to me.
They seem to require quite a bit of energy, which requires something like a nuclear reactor to power them for prolonged periods of time. (They redock and never fly too far from their MS) Also, until the newer Super DRAGOONS used on the newer MS, it required a pilot with advanced spatial awareness to even use the things. Now, the Super DRAGOONS use special quantum computers which allow "normal" pilots to use them effectively. So, perhaps it would be possible to make them more widespread
@kenmasters007 many things in Seed don't make sense tech wise and are included for the cool effect. It appears beams, even those of lesser power like in remote weaponry, are able to take down fleets of battleships. Seed escalated beam spam and potency to godlike levels.
Another question would be, why won't they cover battleships with anti-beam coatings that they use for phsical shields, or incorporate any form of def against beams. The answer is, because beams spammer Kira would lose his job.
@ellicor231 some ships are coated with anti beam. but ones the part is hit by the beam once the coated wears down ZAFT warships also have a thin anti-beam coating, so ships and mobile suits have to re apply anti beam coatings after every battle.
@chaniey01 The anti beam coating of which you speak does not overlap with Phase Shift armor. So MS which have PSA (which is all CE Gundams) do not have anti beam coating on their bodies, however they do frequently carry shields with anti beam coating on it to address this weakness.
Well, generally speaking, Shinn does a pretty good job of linking up out of harm's way (linking up before he's spotted or targeted, knocking his opponent off balance then swapping, etc.). I also am under the impression that the linkups are actually done much quicker than we are shown.
But then again, it could just be as we see it and pretty much all CE pilots just suck too hard to shoot at him, rather than gawk at him as he's vulnerable.
I did remember Voltron/Go-lion has a similar scenario where the villains tried to stop the Lion robot compartments from merging only to find their beam lasers did shit against the magical force field.
The only memory i recall of a Gundam Gattai sequence being stopped was in the V series when Usopp was battling the League in Space.
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ZGMFX20aS ..i got your vote... ... kira isnt suppose to beat.....shinn...in some points that... kira is just added because....gundam seed fans.. wants kira better than that shinn.... and i agree on the point that... it takes more skill to fire only headshots rather than shooting someone..aimlessly to kill someone...
hmm...think about this...when he had the GAT-X105 strike gundam he pretty much started learning to fight in a MS and over time he got better at it. He had to fight against usually 4 ZAFT red suit pilots almost all the time...there had to be some skill there. I'll admit he only started pwning them when his SEED awakened but fights after that he didn't always had to use it on the 4 zaft pilots.
Meh, in my opinion, Strike Kira is a better pilot than Freedom / SF Kira.
As far as the LeCrusset team he rarely fought more than 2 of them unaided. Usually blitz goes for the AA, Buster fights Mu, and Yzak fights Kira, while Athrun talks and dances with Kira. Not to mention he has the nigh indestructible AA at his back and Mu an ace pilot aiding him.
Strike Kira is more resourceful because he had to be. Same for Impulse. Since Shinn pilots a suit against something superior (like the Zamza and the Freedom, he even admits that with the Freedom), he had to think up of creative ways to beat his opponent, because he obviously can't beat it with raw firepower.
I think that's why you like Shinn. Because he was shown to be resourceful, and that flips your switches.
That could be it, but either way, we see better piloting out of him there.
I agree, Destiny Shinn < Impulse Shinn.
You misunderstand, I don't like Shinn. I just acknowledge he's the better pilot of the two. And his reasons make sense and are relatively justified. I think the only characters I actually like in animated CE are Meer and GS Cagalli and Mu.
Freedom's debut and Strike Freedom's are both just amazing.
In all honesty, I want a third series of Gundam Seed, and hopefully this time they WILL kill Shinn off; if they did in Destiny, I'd say its better than Seed, but unfortunately...... D:
Shinn's decisively beaten Kira in battle, Kira has never successfully defeated Shinn in any decisive battle. (I will acknowledge that Kira probably would have beaten Shinn in Phase 22 their first meeting, but Shinn improved quite a bit by their next meeting in GSD 28 and on.)
Shinn's rather adaptable while Kira does not seem to be since the Strike days. We see Shinn using various resourceful methods to fight, such as distracting the Zam Zahza with the shield and flying overhead for the kill,
shooting the chest flier/force silhouette into Freedom after suffering damage to knock it off balance, nailing the faster Freedom with a boomerang to cut off its escape 34, his flying into Destroy and slashing the cockpit with a melee weapon all the while Kira shot beams into its armor harmlessly, etc.
Kira's not a bad pilot, but he's not as good at it as say Shinn or Athrun.
Oh? On an opponent who had no intention of killing him? On someone who was just turning tail and running because he would not kill, etc?
What if, say, Kira decided that he'd go for the cockpit during that fight? I would, for instance, in Kira's place, think 'Damn, this guy knows my tricks, so I guess killing this one would be a good idea!', and go for the kill.
Saying he's better simply from that battle would be like saying a guy who gets to kill a dog only defending itself is amazing.
Why am I not surprised? This old argument yet again. I have numerous comments on this topic on this video and multiple others, I even made a video outlining the cockpit shots Freedom made toward Impulse. I don't really care to explain the entire thing over again, if you want to talk about specifics on it, either read or watch the video first, until then, I maintain Kira was taking cockpit shots. As far as Kira only trying to run away, that's not entirely true, seeing as Freedom was engaged in
the fight after he initially attempts to flee, which doesn't work as Impulse cuts him off, and he then tries to run away after Shinn starts dominating the fight.
Kira did (by at least midfight) and Shinn still won.
I actually didn't say he's a better pilot because of the battle. I pointed that out as a (very good) indicator that he is a better pilot than Kira.
Again, an indicator you base on...oh, the same 'wild speculation' you mentioned some fans have been having. :(
Like the 'he was aiming for the cockpit' thing. He wasn't. Not by far.
In the shots you slow-mo'd, like the 'flyer separation shot', he could have been aiming for the hips. Slicing an MS in half at the hips also results in a non-lethal KO.
I don't know why they'd say knees. Obviously, Shinn studied the 'hip cutter' move and has programmed the flyers to separate just in case.
You do realize I mentioned a variety of other things that showed just how good Shinn was, even an opponent they were both fighting, which Shinn almost immediately fared better against than Kira. See, the difference is, I actually have valid reasons which are based on things that actually happened.
Well, you're wrong on that.
Actually, as per the composite's location of the beam saber and Impulse, that's some dangerous territory he's swiping at there (solar plexus/cockpit range).
Funny, people who argue this so often move around where the cockpit on Impulse is. It is about the red and blue section of Impulse. This particular shot would leave the saber cleaving the lower portion of the cockpit area.
One guy even claimed Impulse's cockpit was the white section (the waist/abdomen) so that the first slide show's cockpit shot wasn't even close to a cockpit shot.
No, not head; higher than the center of the chest. That was standard cockpit design of the era, if you didn't already know that.
Even at that point, Shinn prepared for that blow by programming the flyer separation into the OS. Kira really had no chance (at the time) against someone who has prepared for all his disabling shots (the only ones he'll knowingly use).
Yeah, Shinn's "better" than Kira, your definition of words is significantly different; and like Shinn could destroy 100 odd nuclear silos at once? Whatever.
Alot of people give Kira shit becuase they claim he abuses his targeting computer and just laser spams. If they would take the time to look up the facts about Strike Freedom itself they would understand that: All 8 of Strike Freedom's DRAGOONS are neurolinked to the pilot itself meaning he controls them with his brain. So not only can he concentrate on 8 people simaltaniously but make all 8 shots non-leathal at the same time. This is something only an Ultimate Coordinator can acomplish.
Strike Freedom's Super DRAGOONS can be used by normal pilots. As the quantum computers they are equipped with handle most of the work.
Nonlethal vs lethal really isn't as much of an accomplishment as everyone makes it out to be.
Keep in mind, I'm not saying Kira sucks because he uses an aimbot, I'm merely stating that it doesn't make him rock or show tremendous skill, by using it either.
The UC status doesn't make Kira God, it was the name of a project which used a variation on the normal Coordinator techniques, that managed to get all the desired traits of its creators, in one subject.
Kira is the "Ultimate Coordinator" but that name can be somewhat misleading. He isn't automatically superior to all other Coordinators in practice.
As with other Coordinators, stuff is designed (such as quick learning, physical fitness mods, etc) when the babies are created. However, the fact that other Coordinators are put back into their mothers' wombs, their traits can be modified by the conditions of the mother, such as diet and other factors.
Artificial Womb removes that factor. And the fact that Hibiki designed his child to essentially be the 'best human'...you get the picture.
Of course, like you said, it doesn't make him God. The fact of the matter is, even if he was created perfect (best physical, mental traits, etc), he still grows to be a normal human, just with improved traits all around. External factors also affect what he becomes as he grows.
And, as I always say, it doesn't matter if you're the best in the world...all it takes is one bad day and everything can go down the drain.
Though I don't really believe Kira deserves all the flak he's getting now.
alot of people say amuro controls his fin funnels with his mind which is true...but how does he do it? his cockpit has the psychoframe installed in it... strike freedom just uses a different way of controlling it is all... and it is mind controlled for the strike freedom as you see the newtype flashes when kira uses them
Actually SF has "DRAGOONs for dummies" System, a Quantum Computer that was based on Chaos' Gunpods actually. And the director stated that those Newtype flashes of Kira were just a homage to the original MSG(I think Gyunei), and Kira was no means a newtype..
And Amuro controls the fin Funnels w/ his High Spatial Awareness, the psyco-frame only boosts the reaction speed of Nu and the Fin Funnels to a considerable degree, and it also allows the pilot to control the MS w/ his mind.
It is a pretty sweet MS. While I still prefer the original Freedom in terms of aesthetics, I do appreciate SF's design. Particularly after I assembled the model kit for Strike Freedom.
What akira said. Weapon differences are the single chest mounted beam cannon instead of dual shoulder mounts, new rails that can swivel back or somethibg giving him room to store his beam rifles at the waist, beam shields instead of an anti beam shield to allow double rifles which can be connected for a stronger shot. Super dragoon system and wings of light appear when dragoon is deployed. The color change is gold joints that were added since kira was pushing the older joints past their limits.
==Nothing suggests that the gold joints actually improve the performance at all.==
Actually:
"Luminescent Joint Effect
Due to his superb skills, Kira Yamato's piloting techniques place enough stress on a machine's structure to exceed its design limits. In order to endure ultra-mobility beyond the limits of the design, power is distributed across all parts, producing a luminescent effect in which light is emitted from the PS armor of the joints."
But, it doesn't actually mean he IS the best human or that he excels above all others in all fields. In this case, piloting he's a great pilot, but there are some out there who are better at it.
The criticism I bring up is in the wake of all the unwarranted praise he gets, much of which is flat out untrue or wild speculation on the part of fans.
I acknowledge he's pretty good in many areas, but some surpass him in certain capacities.
You do realize he says as much in the show, right? "There are things that you can do better than I can" and all that stuff.
And what's this 'unwarranted praise' you're talking about? Why, don't they have a say on who they prefer to praise and by how much?
Can't I say, for example, that Flaga is better than both Shinn and Kira? Because in a universe full of super-powered aces who seem to slice up big guns by the dozens in minutes, he's the only 'normal' pilot to match their skill?
Indeed he does, however, I'm talking about the fans who seem to insinuate that Kira is God
That Kira never kills anyone after getting Freedom (which isn't true) and he's good for that, while others kill and they are bad because of that. That Kira is the UC which means he is obviously the best pilot. Kira's able to own numerous MS in one salvo (ignoring the fact he has a computer designed to do just that), etc
When they make claims like this that are untrue, or one sided, yes, it is unwarranted
A computer that, err, he technically designed. All he has to do is to re-program the OS for it do so-and-so.
Coupled with excellent piloting skills, he can position on angles that would catch multiple separate targets. It's never really shown, but it's implied that Full-Bursts actually happen in high-speed. And it doesn't hit 100%, because people can actually avoid it.
He didn't design it at all, the computer was installed in the Freedom before he ever even knew of Freedom's existence. The thing was designed to attack multiple targets at once. Kira may have set the targets as nonvital areas, but doing even that is well within the design of what the computer is meant to do, ie aim multiple weapons at multiple targets simultaneously.
It isn't HIS marksmanship, it is the computer's which is auto aiming against these multiple targets.
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leon100243 1 year ago
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br7587 1 year ago
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br7587 1 year ago
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rayan6248 1 year ago
Kira is ultimate coordinator
VideoQuan 1 year ago
The newtype flash is only a reference to the old shows there are no newtypes in CE
KingLazerman 1 year ago
@KingLazerman Director Fukuda did state that Kira's "NT Flash" was an homage to UC Gundam and that Kira was NOT a Newtype. However, Fukuda ALSO stated that Mu and Rau were Newtypes.
Which leaves us at NTs do in fact exist in CE...just that Kira isn't one of them.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
I was never a fan of funnel "technology" but the Strike Freedom is bad ass.
mikeyvengeance 1 year ago
*cough*
Newtypes do not exist in Gundam Seed or Gundam Seed Destiny
In Cosmic era, only Coordinators, Naturals and Biological CPUs exist.
Kasaidon 1 year ago
@Kasaidon Newtypes actually do exist in CE Gundam, as director Fukuda outright stated Mu and Rau were Newtypes in an interview.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@Weltall8000 wait, but in the series its stated that mu was a regular Natural, not NT, and Rau was a clone, if rau is a NT, wont that make rey a NT too? since they are exact replicas of each other?
alright if fukuda says so then it sould be right.
Kasaidon 1 year ago
@Kasaidon Mu IS a Natural...and a Newtype. Chances are they (in the fictional CE universe) don't know what a NT is or even call them as such. Hell, in UC, Newtypes existed but knowledge of them wasn't widespread until the idea made popular by Zeon.
Rey is reasoned (pretty understandably so) to be a NT as well, as I stated earlier.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
kira yamato E=mc2
astig600 1 year ago
Strike Freedom's most epic POWNAGE!!!!!!
SnakeVenom01 1 year ago
At 1:55, is that the newtype flash deal you the in the original gundam?
MadMilitiaMen 1 year ago
@MadMilitiaMen yes, Coordinators are crappy Newtype wanna bes
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@VictoryZetaMKII newtypes dont make sense coordinators are actualy more realistic.. ZETA GUNDAM SUCKS
chaniey01 1 year ago
@chaniey01 show's how much you know, Newtypes originated in the original Gundam. Newtypes make more sense than Coordinators. SeeD is a garbage retelling of the Universal Century. Take that stick and shove it up your ass.
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@VictoryZetaMKII all universal century gundam series are the true garbage and had the worst animations in the history of anime world plus its old so let uc rest in peace its seed video here anyway not uc so fuck offf on this vid you dont belong here uc nerd looser
chaniey01 1 year ago
@chaniey01 of course, animation is all you care about, I'm not wasting anymore time with a brainless douche, stfu and get a life please
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@VictoryZetaMKII How the hell would newtypes make more sense? Coordinators are genetically modified people. Newtypes are people who evolved from living in space so long. If you ask me, Messing with genetics to make someone smarter and stronger seems a lot more logical then some random evolution in space.
GODSofBATTLE 1 year ago
@GODSofBATTLE they are genetically modified to understand a mobile suits OS? Genetically Modified to unlock some "SeeD Mode Hi-MAT kill everything off with stock footage" Yes, totally logical then a step forward in human evolution, totally.
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@VictoryZetaMKII
As far as which is more realistic, I'd say both are. We are getting into the field of genetics in recent decades and have been able to more and more closely manipulate the traits of things such as plants and yes, even people. Though, in a rudimentary capacity, beings on Earth have been contriving what genes get passed on via natural instincts as a part of natural selection. (Strongest male breeds with all the females, focus on raising the healthiest offspring, etc)
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@Weltall8000 Well, you've covered the newtype portion, and I agree with you, however, if newtypes bred with other newtypes, and had children that were newtypes, and the chain continued. That potential would be considered a form of evolution. Altering genetics in a way that lets one unlock a sort of 'hidden potential' in machines that wasn't built into them, what coordinators do. IS farfetched.
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@VictoryZetaMKII As far as NT goes, what I'm saying is that NT ability is a bit of both nature and nurture. Like intelligence has the two components in it, some people have a higher natural affinity for intelligence than others, another aspect of it is the environment the person in question is subjected to, do they study and refine their intelligence? What we end up with is a composite of those two very broad categories.
NT seems to be a matter of the both, with some individuals having a higher
Weltall8000 1 year ago
affinity toward it and the circumstances they are subjected to affect the level of their abilities. Such that we see a trend with NTs that are in war, increase quite a bit in NT power and in general less so if they don't go to war. Not to say it is war in and of itself that does it, but perhaps the use of the powers or its necessity of it or whatever.
No, what they are doing with Coordinators is not far fetched. Coordinators are people with just very good genes in general.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
Many of them are born with a higher capacity for intelligence or physical attributes. Just like some children are child prodigies or natural athletes, they have a higher potential, which if refined properly, is unmatched by one who tries hard, but doesn't have that natural talent due to genes. Back to the nature and nurture, Coordinators have the nature in the bag, if they refine it, they are almost guaranteed to excel above what an unmodified Natural will, that's just how it works.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@Weltall8000 but, you're not accounting for the Coordinator being able to increase the performance of the mobile suit itself, which is still far fetched.
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@VictoryZetaMKII They don't enhance the ability of the MS in and of the fact that they are Coordinators. In Kira case, it isn't because he is a Coordinator, it is because he reprogrammed the OS and altered the settings mid-battle to enhance performance of his MS.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@Weltall8000 The way I understand it, SeeD mode fully boosts the performance of the Mobilesuit itself. I could have been misinformed though.
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@VictoryZetaMKII Seed Mode is described by director Fukuda as "a physical representation of surpassing one's own limits" however, that is the pilot, not the MS. Basically think of an adrenaline rush, in MS piloting, the mental aspect of such an adrenaline rush. Which does increase the pilots' perception and reaction time, which in turn makes the MS perform better, but that is because you effectively have a more able pilot, piloting it.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@GODSofBATTLE NT really seems more akin to the idea of an awakening of human potential, not so much an actual physical evolution. Some people are naturally more prone to awakening and circumstances can affect it greatly, kind of like NTs. Really thinking about it, NT doesn't seem so far fetched, having computers that can pick up on brain waves in tech like the psychocommu seems more like a matter of "when" rather than "if."
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@Weltall8000 there are already prototypes of machines that read human brainwaves, I believe there is a mobile chair, more specifically, in development to do just this, so you're definitely right here.
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@chaniey01 Somebody clearly hasn't seen Gundam Unicorn.
When you complain about UC's animation, you have to take into account what the standard was at its time, most of them really weren't bad for the time they were made. And frankly, the only Gundam aside from Unicorn which stood out as exceptionally well animated was 00.
Well, without UC, there would be no CE, they also bear the Gundam name, so talk of UC or comparisons between the two, isn't really that far fetched.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
Well no, not oxygen. Something to do with air.
SpammyProductions 1 year ago
i never understand that there is just 1 in all the suits he battle that nows freedom XDD
dannyXX1 1 year ago
did someone notice that Kira at the moment of the dragon system against the ships... that he was damn agressive?
SnakeVenom01 1 year ago
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The haters try to use garbage arguments about programming and other nonsense. I bet they dont even know what API means, the difference between synchronous and asynchronous code execution and the fact that there are different types of aimbots. Some ppl are just trying to look for an excuse to downplay Kira's skill. Anyone who says Kira always using "aimbot" dont know anything and are morons who dont know what ignorance is. If they did, they would say it. 2 1 year ago
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i thinks strike freedom`s appearance is better than 00 raiser because of music and epicness that 00 entrance lacks.
chaniey01 1 year ago
its funny 2 never seen it and think its new only 1 nows freedom XDD
dannyXX1 1 year ago
if any wanna now name off song its vestige by tm revolution ^^
dannyXX1 1 year ago
and how come on all gundam series y did only gudam 00 and gundam seed/destiny came out wit good graphics unlike g gundam and winged even tou to be honest i kinda didnt like winged much like 00 and seed
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You have to consider the year they came out. The time gap is about 10 years for Wing and 00 and about 7years for Wing and Seed.
OOJustice 1 year ago
dunno maybe 00 and seed,destiny are made later then wing and G
dannyXX1 1 year ago
@dug3122580 Gundam Seed was the first series to use digital coloring, right after Turn a Gundam which was the last series to use "hand-painted cels."
worldends08 1 year ago
freedom is my favroit gundam
dug3122580 1 year ago 11
Al Da Flaga funded the genetic experiments that produced both Rau and Kira, possibly they may share a portion of Al's genetic code/material. It may be possible he is a "newtype" since Rau,Rey,Kira and Mwu can sense each other during battle.
Passwordcom 1 year ago
Kira is a Ultimate Coordinator and Developing Newtype.
Newtypes in the Cosmic Era are far behind that in the Univeral Century Timeline. Kira is at the point where he can sense the presense of other newtypes such as Rau Lu Crusset and Mu La Flaga
Babylauncher3000 1 year ago 2
@Babylauncher3000 developing newtype? where didi you get that.?.. kira sensed rau bcuz they have the same DNA.
chaniey01 1 year ago
@chaniey01 lol rly so u sense ur family when they are coming toward u? obviously not. kira does sense newtypes.
battle0001 1 year ago
@battle0001 and where did you read that kira is a newtype.?
chaniey01 1 year ago
@chaniey01 Rau and Kira do not have the same DNA. Rau is a clone of Al DaFlagga. Kira was one of Dr. Hibiki's own twins, taken from his pregnant wife's womb.
There is a little bit of reasonable speculation that Kira might have been developing into a NT from the series, but that's shot down by Fukuda who states that Kira isn't a NT as Rau and Mu are the last remaining NTs (though after this statement Rey and Prayer are revealed.)
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@Weltall8000 : I always had that niggling feeling if they had that "newtype flash", it may or not be the hint that they share Al Da Flaga's genes since they are able to sense each other.
Passwordcom 1 year ago
@Passwordcom Kira doesn't have Al's genes at all. Mu is his child (with a woman, naturally) while Rau is a clone of Al (thus having identical genes to Al, unlike Mu).
I really do think it is a bit ambiguous in light of all the evidence with Kira though. While Fukuda did state Kira isn't a NT, Mu and Rau are, we still have Kira seemingly sensing Mu/Neo in GSD 32. It doesn't really make much sense, but at the end of the day, Fukuda did say Kira isn't a NT, so that's what I roll with.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
@Weltall8000: It would seem Fukuda somewhat abused/pooped the theme of "newtype flash" for exaggerating Kira's "uberness"?
Passwordcom 1 year ago
@Passwordcom Frankly it makes no sense if he's saying Kira isn't a NT, but other NTs do exist in CE. So, God only knows.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
i always love the part where kira's (and maybe athrun) 'favorite' targeting systems comes out and all the pointers come in.
that moment nvr fails to amaze me how freedom always pwnes
Pohty4 1 year ago
i like the part of the episode lol
chunyin 1 year ago
yep.. gundam 00 explosion in purple
999CATZ 1 year ago
Heres how things work in SEED, you threaten Lacus you get your ass handed to you on a silver platter by Kira
Ownage5974 1 year ago 2
1:22 doesn't strike freedom have wing of light when he always do the full burst?
BlazeSwordX 1 year ago
@BlazeSwordX nope strike freedom does..
chaniey01 1 year ago
Not during that scene. It was added in later episodes.
Vejitatheouji 1 year ago
i wonder why the explosion in seed is pink while in 00 is purple..
chaniey01 1 year ago
oh Kira Yamato, he beamed spammed his way into our hearts <3
Duns1990 1 year ago
lol
delarakyle 1 year ago
kira is newtype
spykerescuadron 1 year ago
hes a coordinator its basically an improved artificial newtype
Ownage5974 1 year ago
@Ownage, not really since Cyber Newtypes have the abilities of new types, i.e. the ability to sense other new types etc.
A Coordinator is a geneticly modified human, which results in higher physical ability and enhanced mental ability. Allowing them to pilot mobile suits more efficiently. However they have no 'special' abilities.
AschR2 1 year ago
Well isn't SEED a special ability? But i will say you have a good argument on this issue for the most part
Ownage5974 1 year ago
Well SEED isn't possessed solely by Coordinators, Naturals like Cagali can use it as well and even then it is only a few who can use it.
AschR2 1 year ago
What episode did Cagali use SEED?
Ownage5974 1 year ago 2
@AschR2
Actually, throughout Seed and Seed Destiny, Cagalli is the only Natural who is shown to have been into Seed mode.
DanteLovesPizza 1 year ago
I never understood why explosions in space were pink.
GriffCannon90 1 year ago 15
@GriffCannon90
HAROOOO!
BlackShotJapan 1 year ago 2
well in gundam 00
the explosions were in purple
SasukeCSX 1 year ago 3
-.-
GriffCannon90 1 year ago
what?
SasukeCSX 1 year ago
would have been better if the audio was disable and put a song to it
shadowblitz004 1 year ago
@GriffCannon90 explosions in space are pink, probably because of the lack of oxigeon in space. and i could also be because there is a special particle in space that changes the colour. if that ain't the cause, beets me why
SnakeVenom01 1 year ago
@SnakeVenom01 wait if there isnt a oxygen isnt it impossible to produce a exploision?
13DJX13 1 year ago
@13DJX13 noo, that's in case of fire... wait... isn't an explosion a fast burst of fire? damn!!!! maybe because bandai thought that pink was prettier?
SnakeVenom01 1 year ago
@SnakeVenom01 when you meant bandai its actucally sunrise who animates gundam to a series and i think its the energy
13DJX13 1 year ago
@GriffCannon90
Oxygen.
SpammyProductions 1 year ago
they must load them with pink gas so when it blows it loks like the explosion is pink yup theres no other explanation
SearingFlamesDragon 1 year ago
@SearingFlamesDragon no, that can't be it. maybe because of the fuel that inside the mobile suits. and the oxygen inside the mobile suits(duh, how can pilots breath in space otherwise?)
SnakeVenom01 1 year ago
well you know i was being sarcastic lighten up
SearingFlamesDragon 1 year ago
@SnakeVenom01
all gundam space models do not have air inside the cockpit. In case you missed the hint, Kira and Athrun once opened their cockpit in space (the scene where lacus cline is being returned to Athrun). If there was air in the cockpit, space would suck them up instantly because of the vacuum effect.
Pilots of gundam usually have oxygen recycling tank attached to their suit. Hence you can obviously see it the gray tank sticking out from their back.
441meatloaf 1 year ago
@441meatloaf do not have air inside the cockpit.? but how can you explain. some of the characters piloting a mobile suit in space without wearing any spacesuits? if there is no air inside the cockpit they should be dead.
chaniey01 1 year ago
@SnakeVenom01
also pink can be caused not because of fuel, but because of heat energy. The so called "laser beams" arent lasers. They are plasma. Depending on the reaction agents, (neon typically emits blue light), and there are other plasma's that emit other colours. But the most common one is reddish pink.
441meatloaf 1 year ago
@GriffCannon90
I had the same question when I first watched, lol.
I think it's to make the anime more "child friendly", as the colour does seemingly make the anime less serious.
Or the producers have an affection for the colour pink. xD
DanteLovesPizza 1 year ago
@GriffCannon90 Yea I never really liked that about seed, Made it look like bubble gum, But i do love the series
silvias13ftw 1 year ago
The next strike freedom will be able to fire nuclear missiles from the head cannons like machine gun bullets.
Kiasko 1 year ago
He piloted Strike and Freedom?
so is that why he gets
STRIKE FREEDOM!?
fknyear7s 1 year ago 3
yeah well DUH!!!
ZammexNobody 1 year ago
damn, this vid is old....
BlazeSwordX 1 year ago
Kira Yamato kicks. So. Much. Ass.
omnimon11 1 year ago
Strike Freedom's Dragoons arnt "weak lasers" For dragoon standards Freedom's are insainly powerful and HUGE
Babylauncher3000 1 year ago
very true
ZammexNobody 1 year ago
STRIKE FREEDOM SYSTEM ACTIVATED!!
Gundamstargazer 1 year ago
STRIKE THEM!!!
capostatus937 1 year ago 2
wow that some guys really discuss about technical spezifications of gundams. this is only fictional, ya know? have fun with a great series with great charas
einsxdrei 1 year ago
let them discuss?
CelesticSnow 1 year ago
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Those laser turrets that fly off and shoot people from a distance.. how they do physically work? defies the laws of physics.. Big ass gundams on nuke power, maybe.. tiny flying lasers that can destroy ships and move faster than light, I don't think so..
kenmasters007 2 years ago
I just chalk this up to being one of those things that are just to be taken for granted. "This is the technology, it works, live with it" sort of idea. What actually propels the DRAGOON units, I have no idea, but it's one of those things I can just overlook, because it doesn't really matter, in this fictional reality, this technology works.
The DRAGOONS do not move at the speed of light though, they are quick and nimble, but nowhere near that fast.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
Yes, I understand that nothing technical makes sense, but these dragoon units you call them, defy logic. They are so nimble and pack a lot power, why don't they just have a fleet of them? That's why it doesn't make sense to me.
kenmasters007 2 years ago 2
They seem to require quite a bit of energy, which requires something like a nuclear reactor to power them for prolonged periods of time. (They redock and never fly too far from their MS) Also, until the newer Super DRAGOONS used on the newer MS, it required a pilot with advanced spatial awareness to even use the things. Now, the Super DRAGOONS use special quantum computers which allow "normal" pilots to use them effectively. So, perhaps it would be possible to make them more widespread
Weltall8000 2 years ago
as you suggest, as the technology for them becomes commonplace. Though they'd still require quite a bit of power for them.
As far as them defying logic, I agree, but not so much of a stretch from MS, N Jammers, Phase Shift Armor, and the like, in the first place.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
@kenmasters007 many things in Seed don't make sense tech wise and are included for the cool effect. It appears beams, even those of lesser power like in remote weaponry, are able to take down fleets of battleships. Seed escalated beam spam and potency to godlike levels.
Another question would be, why won't they cover battleships with anti-beam coatings that they use for phsical shields, or incorporate any form of def against beams. The answer is, because beams spammer Kira would lose his job.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231 some ships are coated with anti beam. but ones the part is hit by the beam once the coated wears down ZAFT warships also have a thin anti-beam coating, so ships and mobile suits have to re apply anti beam coatings after every battle.
chaniey01 1 year ago
@chaniey01 The anti beam coating of which you speak does not overlap with Phase Shift armor. So MS which have PSA (which is all CE Gundams) do not have anti beam coating on their bodies, however they do frequently carry shields with anti beam coating on it to address this weakness.
Weltall8000 1 year ago
Well, they only deploy for a few moments at a time, maybe they have a very short range and limited power supply and need recharging?
Don't forget also that even today there are remote energy systems being experimented with that can transmit energy without a direct connection.
AtlantiansAnAlteran 1 year ago
gravitational fields...?
gibsonmozart 1 year ago
That is a good question why gattai sequences are mostly uninterrupted.
Passwordcom 2 years ago
Actually i wonder, why don't pilots just shoot shinn down when he is transforming
kingexe1 2 years ago
Its an anime, it's not supposed to happen lol.
DanxRouge 2 years ago
Well, generally speaking, Shinn does a pretty good job of linking up out of harm's way (linking up before he's spotted or targeted, knocking his opponent off balance then swapping, etc.). I also am under the impression that the linkups are actually done much quicker than we are shown.
But then again, it could just be as we see it and pretty much all CE pilots just suck too hard to shoot at him, rather than gawk at him as he's vulnerable.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
I did remember Voltron/Go-lion has a similar scenario where the villains tried to stop the Lion robot compartments from merging only to find their beam lasers did shit against the magical force field.
The only memory i recall of a Gundam Gattai sequence being stopped was in the V series when Usopp was battling the League in Space.
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xxytf94g 2 years ago
ZGMFX20aS ..i got your vote... ... kira isnt suppose to beat.....shinn...in some points that... kira is just added because....gundam seed fans.. wants kira better than that shinn.... and i agree on the point that... it takes more skill to fire only headshots rather than shooting someone..aimlessly to kill someone...
arthas0the0avenger 2 years ago
Even though that isn't actually the case at all, but you know.
Yes yes, popularity means we can ignore the facts in favor of a character. >.>
Weltall8000 2 years ago
I did remember Kira being ridiculously number 1 in a 2007-2008 vote for newtype jp, only Lelouch overtook him the next volume later.
Passwordcom 2 years ago
hmm...think about this...when he had the GAT-X105 strike gundam he pretty much started learning to fight in a MS and over time he got better at it. He had to fight against usually 4 ZAFT red suit pilots almost all the time...there had to be some skill there. I'll admit he only started pwning them when his SEED awakened but fights after that he didn't always had to use it on the 4 zaft pilots.
AkiraModo 2 years ago
Meh, in my opinion, Strike Kira is a better pilot than Freedom / SF Kira.
As far as the LeCrusset team he rarely fought more than 2 of them unaided. Usually blitz goes for the AA, Buster fights Mu, and Yzak fights Kira, while Athrun talks and dances with Kira. Not to mention he has the nigh indestructible AA at his back and Mu an ace pilot aiding him.
Weltall8000 2 years ago 2
Strike Kira is more resourceful because he had to be. Same for Impulse. Since Shinn pilots a suit against something superior (like the Zamza and the Freedom, he even admits that with the Freedom), he had to think up of creative ways to beat his opponent, because he obviously can't beat it with raw firepower.
I think that's why you like Shinn. Because he was shown to be resourceful, and that flips your switches.
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
That could be it, but either way, we see better piloting out of him there.
I agree, Destiny Shinn < Impulse Shinn.
You misunderstand, I don't like Shinn. I just acknowledge he's the better pilot of the two. And his reasons make sense and are relatively justified. I think the only characters I actually like in animated CE are Meer and GS Cagalli and Mu.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
SF gundam is no match with DSH :P
fremy123 2 years ago
Freedom's debut and Strike Freedom's are both just amazing.
In all honesty, I want a third series of Gundam Seed, and hopefully this time they WILL kill Shinn off; if they did in Destiny, I'd say its better than Seed, but unfortunately...... D:
DanteLovesPizza 2 years ago
That's nice, you hate Shinn. Good for you, but it doesn't change that Shinn's the better pilot compared to Kira.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
And on what basis?
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Under the basis that he's american, ignorant and vain. :)
DanteLovesPizza 2 years ago
Shinn's decisively beaten Kira in battle, Kira has never successfully defeated Shinn in any decisive battle. (I will acknowledge that Kira probably would have beaten Shinn in Phase 22 their first meeting, but Shinn improved quite a bit by their next meeting in GSD 28 and on.)
Shinn's rather adaptable while Kira does not seem to be since the Strike days. We see Shinn using various resourceful methods to fight, such as distracting the Zam Zahza with the shield and flying overhead for the kill,
Weltall8000 2 years ago
shooting the chest flier/force silhouette into Freedom after suffering damage to knock it off balance, nailing the faster Freedom with a boomerang to cut off its escape 34, his flying into Destroy and slashing the cockpit with a melee weapon all the while Kira shot beams into its armor harmlessly, etc.
Kira's not a bad pilot, but he's not as good at it as say Shinn or Athrun.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
Oh? On an opponent who had no intention of killing him? On someone who was just turning tail and running because he would not kill, etc?
What if, say, Kira decided that he'd go for the cockpit during that fight? I would, for instance, in Kira's place, think 'Damn, this guy knows my tricks, so I guess killing this one would be a good idea!', and go for the kill.
Saying he's better simply from that battle would be like saying a guy who gets to kill a dog only defending itself is amazing.
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
Why am I not surprised? This old argument yet again. I have numerous comments on this topic on this video and multiple others, I even made a video outlining the cockpit shots Freedom made toward Impulse. I don't really care to explain the entire thing over again, if you want to talk about specifics on it, either read or watch the video first, until then, I maintain Kira was taking cockpit shots. As far as Kira only trying to run away, that's not entirely true, seeing as Freedom was engaged in
Weltall8000 2 years ago
the fight after he initially attempts to flee, which doesn't work as Impulse cuts him off, and he then tries to run away after Shinn starts dominating the fight.
Kira did (by at least midfight) and Shinn still won.
I actually didn't say he's a better pilot because of the battle. I pointed that out as a (very good) indicator that he is a better pilot than Kira.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
Again, an indicator you base on...oh, the same 'wild speculation' you mentioned some fans have been having. :(
Like the 'he was aiming for the cockpit' thing. He wasn't. Not by far.
In the shots you slow-mo'd, like the 'flyer separation shot', he could have been aiming for the hips. Slicing an MS in half at the hips also results in a non-lethal KO.
I don't know why they'd say knees. Obviously, Shinn studied the 'hip cutter' move and has programmed the flyers to separate just in case.
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
You do realize I mentioned a variety of other things that showed just how good Shinn was, even an opponent they were both fighting, which Shinn almost immediately fared better against than Kira. See, the difference is, I actually have valid reasons which are based on things that actually happened.
Well, you're wrong on that.
Actually, as per the composite's location of the beam saber and Impulse, that's some dangerous territory he's swiping at there (solar plexus/cockpit range).
Weltall8000 2 years ago
It was incoming at higher than the hips, so...yeah.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
Slanted, and you paused that frame. Way lower than where the actual cockpit is (it's a bit higher than the chest).
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
So, what, the cockpit is in the head now?
Funny, people who argue this so often move around where the cockpit on Impulse is. It is about the red and blue section of Impulse. This particular shot would leave the saber cleaving the lower portion of the cockpit area.
One guy even claimed Impulse's cockpit was the white section (the waist/abdomen) so that the first slide show's cockpit shot wasn't even close to a cockpit shot.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
No, not head; higher than the center of the chest. That was standard cockpit design of the era, if you didn't already know that.
Even at that point, Shinn prepared for that blow by programming the flyer separation into the OS. Kira really had no chance (at the time) against someone who has prepared for all his disabling shots (the only ones he'll knowingly use).
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
How do you know that Shinn programmed the separation into the OS rather than actively doing it right then and there?
So, Kira can't deal with a pilot who he doesn't jump for once? Why is he better than Shinn now?
On top of that, I've debunked this ridiculous notion that Kira doesn't ever kill or aim for the cockpit in Freedom.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
Yeah, Shinn's "better" than Kira, your definition of words is significantly different; and like Shinn could destroy 100 odd nuclear silos at once? Whatever.
DanteLovesPizza 2 years ago
Goosebumps.
Phailsome 2 years ago
Kira actually mastered the Strike Freedom even when he just piloted it...wow
supersayianz 2 years ago
SF is just a Freedom w/ DRAGOONs, of course he'll master it easily.
MilliardoPeacecraftX 2 years ago
Alot of people give Kira shit becuase they claim he abuses his targeting computer and just laser spams. If they would take the time to look up the facts about Strike Freedom itself they would understand that: All 8 of Strike Freedom's DRAGOONS are neurolinked to the pilot itself meaning he controls them with his brain. So not only can he concentrate on 8 people simaltaniously but make all 8 shots non-leathal at the same time. This is something only an Ultimate Coordinator can acomplish.
Babylauncher3000 2 years ago
Strike Freedom's Super DRAGOONS can be used by normal pilots. As the quantum computers they are equipped with handle most of the work.
Nonlethal vs lethal really isn't as much of an accomplishment as everyone makes it out to be.
Keep in mind, I'm not saying Kira sucks because he uses an aimbot, I'm merely stating that it doesn't make him rock or show tremendous skill, by using it either.
Ultimate Coordinator = perfect designer baby
Weltall8000 2 years ago 2
The UC status doesn't make Kira God, it was the name of a project which used a variation on the normal Coordinator techniques, that managed to get all the desired traits of its creators, in one subject.
Kira is the "Ultimate Coordinator" but that name can be somewhat misleading. He isn't automatically superior to all other Coordinators in practice.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
Actually, that was the implication.
As with other Coordinators, stuff is designed (such as quick learning, physical fitness mods, etc) when the babies are created. However, the fact that other Coordinators are put back into their mothers' wombs, their traits can be modified by the conditions of the mother, such as diet and other factors.
Artificial Womb removes that factor. And the fact that Hibiki designed his child to essentially be the 'best human'...you get the picture.
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
Of course, like you said, it doesn't make him God. The fact of the matter is, even if he was created perfect (best physical, mental traits, etc), he still grows to be a normal human, just with improved traits all around. External factors also affect what he becomes as he grows.
And, as I always say, it doesn't matter if you're the best in the world...all it takes is one bad day and everything can go down the drain.
Though I don't really believe Kira deserves all the flak he's getting now.
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
alot of people say amuro controls his fin funnels with his mind which is true...but how does he do it? his cockpit has the psychoframe installed in it... strike freedom just uses a different way of controlling it is all... and it is mind controlled for the strike freedom as you see the newtype flashes when kira uses them
AkiraModo 2 years ago
Actually SF has "DRAGOONs for dummies" System, a Quantum Computer that was based on Chaos' Gunpods actually. And the director stated that those Newtype flashes of Kira were just a homage to the original MSG(I think Gyunei), and Kira was no means a newtype..
And Amuro controls the fin Funnels w/ his High Spatial Awareness, the psyco-frame only boosts the reaction speed of Nu and the Fin Funnels to a considerable degree, and it also allows the pilot to control the MS w/ his mind.
MilliardoPeacecraftX 2 years ago
Meteor by T.M.Revolution for Freedom.
Vestige by T.M.Revolution for Strike Freedom.
Both songs are now just related to these mobile suits and their Godly-ness. xD
DanteLovesPizza 2 years ago
remember heero yuy XD
gandalfx77 2 years ago
Kira the king of freedom <3
electricfreak 2 years ago
man i love the strike freedom *drool*
brutalbutchery 2 years ago
It is a pretty sweet MS. While I still prefer the original Freedom in terms of aesthetics, I do appreciate SF's design. Particularly after I assembled the model kit for Strike Freedom.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
haha stupid cartoon, one fighter defeat entire fleet hahaha and a female ship captain....speechless...XD
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
lol...he was saved by phase shift in the last episode prolly...the body of the suit was still intact at the end
AkiraModo 2 years ago
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this song rocks
electricfreak 2 years ago
the strike freedom is awsome
masaya5656 2 years ago 4
you kno what.... guys stop comparing the other gundams with strike freedoms and enjoy the frekin anime
ThePross753 2 years ago
What akira said. Weapon differences are the single chest mounted beam cannon instead of dual shoulder mounts, new rails that can swivel back or somethibg giving him room to store his beam rifles at the waist, beam shields instead of an anti beam shield to allow double rifles which can be connected for a stronger shot. Super dragoon system and wings of light appear when dragoon is deployed. The color change is gold joints that were added since kira was pushing the older joints past their limits.
rogueclon946 2 years ago
Nothing suggests that the gold joints actually improve the performance at all.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
==Nothing suggests that the gold joints actually improve the performance at all.==
Actually:
"Luminescent Joint Effect
Due to his superb skills, Kira Yamato's piloting techniques place enough stress on a machine's structure to exceed its design limits. In order to endure ultra-mobility beyond the limits of the design, power is distributed across all parts, producing a luminescent effect in which light is emitted from the PS armor of the joints."
But this was unsurprisingly retconned.
MilliardoPeacecraftX 2 years ago
What is the source for that on the joints?
But, it doesn't actually mean he IS the best human or that he excels above all others in all fields. In this case, piloting he's a great pilot, but there are some out there who are better at it.
The criticism I bring up is in the wake of all the unwarranted praise he gets, much of which is flat out untrue or wild speculation on the part of fans.
I acknowledge he's pretty good in many areas, but some surpass him in certain capacities.
Weltall8000 2 years ago
You do realize he says as much in the show, right? "There are things that you can do better than I can" and all that stuff.
And what's this 'unwarranted praise' you're talking about? Why, don't they have a say on who they prefer to praise and by how much?
Can't I say, for example, that Flaga is better than both Shinn and Kira? Because in a universe full of super-powered aces who seem to slice up big guns by the dozens in minutes, he's the only 'normal' pilot to match their skill?
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
Indeed he does, however, I'm talking about the fans who seem to insinuate that Kira is God
That Kira never kills anyone after getting Freedom (which isn't true) and he's good for that, while others kill and they are bad because of that. That Kira is the UC which means he is obviously the best pilot. Kira's able to own numerous MS in one salvo (ignoring the fact he has a computer designed to do just that), etc
When they make claims like this that are untrue, or one sided, yes, it is unwarranted
Weltall8000 2 years ago
A computer that, err, he technically designed. All he has to do is to re-program the OS for it do so-and-so.
Coupled with excellent piloting skills, he can position on angles that would catch multiple separate targets. It's never really shown, but it's implied that Full-Bursts actually happen in high-speed. And it doesn't hit 100%, because people can actually avoid it.
ZGMFX20aS 2 years ago
He didn't design it at all, the computer was installed in the Freedom before he ever even knew of Freedom's existence. The thing was designed to attack multiple targets at once. Kira may have set the targets as nonvital areas, but doing even that is well within the design of what the computer is meant to do, ie aim multiple weapons at multiple targets simultaneously.
It isn't HIS marksmanship, it is the computer's which is auto aiming against these multiple targets.
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