Good to great is still an excellent book - not without flaws of course, but there seems to be a trend growing of throwing the baby out with the bathwater as far as collins is concerned. Much of his work on effective leadership characteristics is supported in more recent and empirically validated books such as "crucial conversations" and "influencer".
Very good but discriptive. It leaves people with a discription of what a company looks like but looking for "the right people or culture". A better question would be "How do you cause this?" Scott Forgey, Sage Associates
ager as well. His instincts helped avert a Pittsburgh rally with the Americans up 3-0 in the clinching game of the 1903 World Series. Collins noticed that a Pirate runner had taken a big lead off second base, so he gave to the catcher, who faked a throw to second and threw down to Collins at third. Collins tagged out the breaking runner for the second out. Honus Wagner then struck out, ending the series. Collins was hailed as a genius.
He led Boston to its first World Series title in 1903 as player-manager. His team then took the AL pennant in 1904, the year there was no World Series.
In an era with far mmore bunts than today, Collins was considered a pioneer of third base plays. He mastered the art of coming in, barehanding the ball, and throwing runners out. Eventually, few batters tried bunting Collin's way. He was also of the first third baseman to run down pop flies along the third base line.
Just as it was explained, most of the companies stopped doing the 'right things' which has caused them to falter. It is analogous to a person stopping to regularly excercise and start eating heavily unhealthy foods.
Good to Great is not a matter of ideas, but a matter of facts. Try to understand the correlation of all the facts. The leader is just one of the many links in an organisation. Leaders in great companies recognise this fact, and are only with respect to that "humble", but on the same time extremely professional. Red line of the facts is discipline (people, thoughts and activities).
There is a group included in the study which consists of companies that did go from good to great but did not stay great. All those cases could be attributed to not staying true to the G2G principles.
So, Collins doesn't say "Do this and you'll be great". He says "I have never found a great company that did not apply these principles" and also "I have never seen a great company stay great after stopping this kind of behaviour". You are left to draw your own conclusions.
I read his book and think he is great, but his passion makes him too long winded where he loses people at times.
jmartinez562 3 years ago
Good to great is still an excellent book - not without flaws of course, but there seems to be a trend growing of throwing the baby out with the bathwater as far as collins is concerned. Much of his work on effective leadership characteristics is supported in more recent and empirically validated books such as "crucial conversations" and "influencer".
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bobburnstein 3 years ago
Very good but discriptive. It leaves people with a discription of what a company looks like but looking for "the right people or culture". A better question would be "How do you cause this?" Scott Forgey, Sage Associates
sforgey1 3 years ago
One of the most important books I've ever read...
In fact, it's one of the most important books I think has ever been written, period.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Not even close.
Read:
"The Innovator's Dilemma"
MrFrankBullitt 3 years ago
ager as well. His instincts helped avert a Pittsburgh rally with the Americans up 3-0 in the clinching game of the 1903 World Series. Collins noticed that a Pirate runner had taken a big lead off second base, so he gave to the catcher, who faked a throw to second and threw down to Collins at third. Collins tagged out the breaking runner for the second out. Honus Wagner then struck out, ending the series. Collins was hailed as a genius.
renandstim 3 years ago
He led Boston to its first World Series title in 1903 as player-manager. His team then took the AL pennant in 1904, the year there was no World Series.
In an era with far mmore bunts than today, Collins was considered a pioneer of third base plays. He mastered the art of coming in, barehanding the ball, and throwing runners out. Eventually, few batters tried bunting Collin's way. He was also of the first third baseman to run down pop flies along the third base line.
Collins was a marvelous man
renandstim 3 years ago
Charlie looks drunk. Kinda loose and with it.
swankrecords 4 years ago
He's sleepy :)
StronnySam 4 years ago
does jim have a facebook or myspace account????
brandyjo21 4 years ago
Built To Last is flawed because the companies in the book were in industries that outperfomed the market.
Good To Great is nothing new. Most companies in the study have done poorly since the book was published.
MrFrankBullitt 4 years ago
Both of these questions are answered and put to rest at Jim Collins website.
rogerdodgeraviation 4 years ago
Just as it was explained, most of the companies stopped doing the 'right things' which has caused them to falter. It is analogous to a person stopping to regularly excercise and start eating heavily unhealthy foods.
apersaud 4 years ago
Frank:
1. Show your data
2. Re-read both books
matt66205 3 years ago
Fannie Mae & Circuit City
Both are "Good To Great" according to Jim Collins.
The methodology is flawed. They went back and tried to explain success but didn't take into account Survivorship Bias.
Tom Peters did the same thing: In Search Of Excellence was a bestseller. Now, most of those companies profiled don't even exist.
MrFrankBullitt 3 years ago
Do you think if the Good to Great study was repeated and took into account Survivorship Bias, the research team would uncover different principles?
matt66205 3 years ago
Not unless you study the losers.
Look at all the companies that followed these principles AND FAILED - then see how helpful these concepts are at predicting success.
My feeling is that such vague ideas as "Effective Leaders Are Humble" are totally worthless at predicting success.
MrFrankBullitt 3 years ago
Frank,
Good to Great is not a matter of ideas, but a matter of facts. Try to understand the correlation of all the facts. The leader is just one of the many links in an organisation. Leaders in great companies recognise this fact, and are only with respect to that "humble", but on the same time extremely professional. Red line of the facts is discipline (people, thoughts and activities).
wim21071964 3 years ago
There is a group included in the study which consists of companies that did go from good to great but did not stay great. All those cases could be attributed to not staying true to the G2G principles.
So, Collins doesn't say "Do this and you'll be great". He says "I have never found a great company that did not apply these principles" and also "I have never seen a great company stay great after stopping this kind of behaviour". You are left to draw your own conclusions.
oriemn 3 years ago
@MrFrankBullitt Jim Collins' new book is called "How the Mighty Fall" and it answers a lot of these questions you've been wondering about.
matt66205 1 year ago
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