Pretty clear what happened here. Kari sucks as driving, sober, tipsy and tired, but payed more attention on the tired run because she did so poorly on the first run. Tory was overconfident from the first run and let it slip.
What I do not understand is why they fired the machine gun individually at each target. Ussually volleys of arrows aim for center mass. So if this was used in a battlefield it would not be aimed at any on person. It would, however, be aimed at the center mass of the inveading army
@bexksamuel20 i think it was be cause they were testing a individual macine but thats a very good point i agree the greeks would have used it as a bulk fire weapon also i dont think they would have had as many problems only because they would have prefected it after years of nit picking in battles soldires are ususly almost intamate with their weapons even in modern times
@sibenikkk my point is if all that stuff went wrong and that was a real fight they wouldnt do well. the ordinary bow was much more efficient. didnt break and didnt need to sttop the clock or try another time.
@21526001270528 Just like sibenikk said, if they had more time to perfect it, there wouldn't be any missfires, or very little. The advantage of this machine over a bow is not only rate of fire but mainly ease of use. If one of the servants dies, anybody can take his place and turn the crank. Using a bow effectively takes years of training. That's one of the main reasons why the crossbow became so popular during the middle ages.
driving tired - yup no shock there. reactions, reasoning, focus all get screwed up through lack of sleep. As for the repeating balista - well, the accuracy wouldn't be such an issue... even with hand bows,they wouldn't be a sniping weapon - more of a shotgun styled salvo of arrows. If you have 3 of these machines just churning away.. the ranks would get ruined pretty soon. doing the same work as 20 trained archers
@MegaDizzle123 well i would agree 100% if it was that machine (bult by the mythbusters) but if the romans had made it, it would not be a crossbow, it would be a ballista which even a normal ballista would have crews of 2 to 4 ppl to man. the point is they made a weak little thing, thats only good to prove a point, if a real one was made by romans it would be much better, stronger, faster then if the crew had normal bows
@1crazyfocker i feel like the effort it would take to make one of those, teach people how to use it and fix it on the battlefield, and lets not forget, i mean even if the Romans made it, it is likely to still jam or miss fire. Bows would have a considerably less rate and would be easier to move around then a huge thing such as that.
@MegaDizzle123 the romans did use huge devises, that could only shoot 1 bolt like every 45 sec or so (a guess) that took like 2 to 5 ppl to use, let alone move, and only had around a 200lbs pull, but the one thing the romens had was the time to train their men to use some of the goofiest devices, yet they managed to use them in a very deadly manner. plus jams and miss fires would have been worked out in no time. that would be like an A bomb to them, your point is valid by today's thinking only.
@MegaDizzle123 The idea was to pierce shields, ect. and obtain a better range than a bow offered. Also it was much easier to train soldiers to use a machine like this, than to train them to be proper archers (it takes years of training and a special diet to produce good military archers, like the famed English longbowmen.)
That being said, I doubt this repeater was used much; single-shot ballistae were simpler to maintain and had just as high a rate of fire with disciplined crews.
@MegaDizzle123 but to train a bunch of proficient archers take a hell lot more time; life time it seems. Not only you need to train them for accuracy, speed (calmness under stress of combat) but also strength (to pull heavy bow strings). The successor of Roman Empire (Byzantine) had excellent archers (on par with archers of the steppe) but suffered a chronic lack of them.
On the other hand, it's far easier to train a bunch of engineers.
I've went 37 hours without sleep. It gets pretty bad around the 24 hour mark, but something odd happened after 30 hours. The tiredness leaves you and I felt strangely refreshed, and even went out cycling for 2-3 miles. This was without any caffeine, etc. I think the body has the ability to adapt to lack of sleep, assuming you can overcome that initial barrier.
@Titanwriter There's not this much things in that bow... Just something to hold the arrow for you, at it's position. And a nice grip. Apart from that, is just a bow.
i think it's plausible that driving tired is more dangerous NOT confirmed. they forgot about insomniacs, and people who stay up late...not to mention that they should have had another person with aid of energy drinks/coffee because lets be honest, an average person with no sleep would go for an energy drink/coffee before hitting the road
@AndrewRiley1994 These things are automatons. They just keep firing at a general direction. If you have an full army, packed men in little space, and you keep a few of these machines firing it would do a nice damage to their frontlines.
@Minajiesu Which is very similar, in fact, to the way the first machine guns were used in the 1890s (bulky, heavy weapons on fixed mounts which limited their range of fire to an arc in front of them.) As such, they were VERY effective against frontal assaults by masses of tribal warriors.
I cant help but think that the firepower potential of the ballista has to be alot higher than a regular bow and that they should look into the possibility of piercing/line damage if they fired heavier arrows or bolt maybe even modified pila.
i cant believe they gave them nothing but fucking muffins for breakfast! When i have been sleep deprived the ONLY thing that makes me feel even slightly better (besides sleep of course) is real food, i'm talking 3 eggs over easy, a ham steak, hash browns covered in ketchup, toast&jam, and a humongous glass of O.J.
They forgot this machine-crossbow or whatever it is was made to shoot masses of soldiers, not just five guys, so precision wasn't really the point of this weapon. Another thing is that an archer needs a lot of training, and he can get killed. But any stupid can shoot that thing, and the machine won't die.
@TheHenryFilms same basic reason why the crossbow became so popular during the middle ages: anybody could just pick it up, and in five minutes learn how to reload and shoot.
And this machine closely ressembles a chinese variant, a hand held repeating crossbow. Not the most acurate, but hella fast. Used to hail enormous numbers of arrows. Accuracy isn't an issue when you've got ten times the arrows flying down on the enemy ;)
@TheHenryFilms That's a good point. People need to think about how modern Machine-guns are used VS troops with assault rifles etc: strategically as opposed to tactically.
They needed tools, materials, and experienced workers to construct this machine. You need mechanics to maintain it and workers to carry it around. Furthermore, the Greeks didn't have a standardized metal industry so all these parts are custom-made and not interchangeable. Each part has to be replaced by custom making them if they broke.
This is not machine gun vs rifles...this is impractical gun (this machine) vs practical gun (a regular archer).
You forget that they needed tools, materials, and experienced workers to construct this machine. You need mechanics to maintain it, and also need to practice aiming the machine, and workers to carry it around. Furthermore, the Greeks didn't have a standardized metal industry so all these parts are custom-made and not interchangeable. Each part has to be replaced by custom making them if they broke.
Thus the machine was impractical and not produced seriously.
This conclusion really annoys me, yes going an entire night without any sleep whatsoever is more dangerous than having 1 drink... that's pretty obvious!!!
i hallucinated while doing my hsc woodwork major project because we stayed at school till midnight for the two weeks leading up to the due date using tools constantly and having dinner at 4pm then slamming the workshop till 12. finished my project at 3am the day it was due. oh yeah
Agreeing with sisseeboy. It takes 3 men to operate. One to turn the crane, one to aim, and one to scout. Anyway, the machine is huge. I could easy line up a line of archers to launch a volley of arrows.
What bugs me about the arrow machine gun is that it takes 2-3 guys to use it, where it was only 10 seconds faster than the single archer, it would be much slower than just 2-3 archers? xD
@enordentoft Yeah but it wouldn't be as limited by size and draw weight. They also didn't take the psychological effect into account. Imagine a lion spitting arrows, that would be scary.
@ivanlagrossemoule Sure it would be scary, but I'd rather be scared shitless than dead.. in experiment they used common arrows, and were not actually as accurate.. the only pro about the arrow machine gun imo, is the range.. Besides, it's fairly complicated to move around, and not suitable for rugged terrain.. i'd rather just train the men as archers than use that model of siege weapon. (:
@enordentoft Yeah, of course I doubt it would be useful in most battles. But at the top of a wall it can be much better than a few archers. Note that even though the arrows missed, if you're aiming at a pile of men, accuracy isn't as important.
But it could be pretty useful since the greeks lacked siege weapons. I doubt it ever was intended to replace archers anyway.
If that's true then your countries laws are retarded. You can get to an alcohol level of above 0.00% even without drinking ANY alcohol, simply by eating and digesting food!
@N4N0Clan they measure the alcohol quantity from your breath :P the alcohol that you get by digesting goes trough the blood way :Pand I live in Romania
If the modern bow is no different than the ancient bow why not just use the ancient bow and avoid any problems? (hint: huge difference in modern target bows and carbon arrows vs ancient greek bows and wood arrows.)
these guys no nothing about archery- a horse archer or a line of longbowmen are not only more mobile but a lot more versatile in these concerns, consider the weather the faults that could happen in a catapult wheres an archer can deal with the surroundings much more effectively, big machines are designed for big, heavy ammo, thats why they made the ballista...
@minxel16 Perhaps you missed the point of mythbusters. The MYTH is that the Romans used an arrow machine "gun". These guys simply try to prove or disprove it. The fact that longbowmen or horse archers are more effective is completely irrelevant to this video. I suggest you stop watching this show if you are going to question their knowledge of history instead of enjoying the show for what it is
@minxel16 Doesn't make that much sense. This thing is essentially a ballista that repeatedly fires. I'm sure that if the Romans get a hold of this technology, they would've have made it out of metal, just like they did with the ballista, and make them impervious to weather, make them lighter and stronger with more range. I don't see why the bolts from a ballista couldn't work with machine.
@Lanky279 of course the romans had this machiine-they didnt pack a 45lbs bow on it though so therefore to make it efficient they had to use heavier arrows or bolts. This would increase the weight of the machine limiting its obility so only really to be used with the main line of army. It would also take a few people to man one whereas an archer is solo, as well as more mobile.
If they wanted this test to be valid they shouldve used a much bigger and heavier bow with larger ammo
@minxel16 I don't think they were trying to build a machine that could actually be used but just trying to prove the concept is possible. The Romans, without a doubt, would've have improved the machine more than 100x if they knew of the concept.
@moonlightpale true, the romans were great inventors-cement and cranes etc. As long as they could limit the malfunctions this version had then a repeating ballista could be made more efficient than thos used in war
@iRJRx so have i XD i went a week with 2 hours every other night, when friday came i began hallucinating and that night i went to bed at 12 *shrug* staying up that late is hard for people who are used to enough sleep, people who pretty much train themselves to function with a lack of sleep can take it without much trouble ^^
@NoaFuuma True. It's hard, but trainable. Military personnel are the obvious proof. I can do my job (physically demanding job) for three consecutive days with only about 10 hours of sleep (alcohol used every night witch implies dehydration & diarrhea plus sleep deprivation symptoms) without a problem. The hardest part is trying to act normal in front of your boss and hiding that booze smell from your mouth. Done. I'm going back to work soon. I will try to beat my personal record.
i think if they want to say that the machine beats the archer, they should have three archers take out the targets. cuz thats how many men were working the machine :p
@Maxxis247 Perhaps because this is the rip from British TV? Or the original guy was on a sick leave? Anyone can. I don't know. At least this guy is quite good, altrough can be irritating (but not that much). If you want a really annoying voiceover-try a Polish version... Only one guy does his job very good-he has a nickname "Buster" :) all other do their versions without any taste, any spark, anythig. I feel sorry for our version... :(
dont like how grant was the control they each should have done it fresh and sober and then all done the drunk and tired tests if anything another female should do each test too to make if fair. plus tory and kari defo banged as a pass time
The tipsy vs tired test is important because people often forget that a lot of accidents "caused" by drinking are in fact caused by being tired. When do you drink? In the evening of course, often very late into the night. So, on your way home, it's being tired that causes you to nod off and gets you killed much more often than slow reactions from being drunk. Not to say that drinking and driving is a good idea of course, but it's a shame the focus is solely on drinking in road safety campaigns.
the driving sleepy makes me cry cause this summer my cousin was killed when he fell asleep at the wheel, he was sober and had just turned 20 years old :(
Funny how they used "Arrow Machine Gun" to appeal to the public, Ballistae were not uncommon in the Classical period. Not really a myth, more of an investigation.
This doesn't account for the immense cost of a weapon like this, as to a couple more bows, arrows, and some cheap soldiers. This method is much more inefficient, also due to the weight and size of the contraption, so no, this is not plausible.
@Demonato It could've used heavier bolts. In fact, the polybolos (what this contraption was named) is more akin to a rapid fire ballista, which they were known to use effectively.
@Demonato Actually, bowmen are not cheap at all. A skilled archer took months, if not years, to train, and bows aren't easy at all to make. Easier than that monstrosity, yes, but it takes skill.
@CodeSworn Really good quality bows could take over a year to make, based on allowing the wood to be treated and the strings to be crafted. And yeah, its the main reason muskets were adopted by armies - they weren't better by any means, but they were much easier to train with and maintain.
@threehead99 The part of the bow you are thinking of is the stablisers which are the long rods sticking out from behind the hand and out in front of the bow. Thes are what balance the bow in the hand. The limbs are the parts that clip into the top and bottom of the riser, the bit where the string is strung between. The limbs are the bits that bend at full draw and that is where all the energy of the bow comes from.
But I think this was not really used in batle for the same reason the very first gatling was not a favored weapon: many parts can break, maintaining is a pain and you need a whole (trained!) crew to do what some maybe not so well trained archers could do (with more arrows). As far as i know Greeks did not care about precision, but quantity. What makes sense for distracting an enemy formation to simplify an infantry attack
@Haumaringiringi Something to keep in mind -- training a crew to use a repeating cross bow is probably way less intensive than training a bowman. Bowmen took a lot of time to train, surprisingly. That's part of why firearms took over -- their rate of fire was terrible originally, but they could fire for long ranges and with great penetrative abilities without the need of powerful bow arms which took years to build up. Machinegun crews? probably a week. Could be talking out of my ass though!
@kayinnasaki i maybe mistaking, but as far as i know the archers training varied from nation to nation... while the japanese and wales archers were elite troops, other nations archers...not so much. and still there is maintenance. for reenactment i have already worked on a similar, but more handy replica of a roman automatic ballista (using inflexible levers and twisted strings instead of a real bow). trust me, a few arrows aren't worth the effort. but a crock with burning oil would be;)
@Haumaringiringi Oh I don't mean to necessarily say that it was worthwhile, but if they did somehow get something semi reliable working, that the training comparison COULD work out. But if you're doing re-enactment you have some first order of experience I can't hope to match. :)
Why do they have such a trouble of staying awake 24 hours straight?
I sometimes pull 30 hours plus when I have vacation, yeah sure, I get tired, and I cheat by drinking coke, but even at times when I ran out of coke, I can still easily pull 24 hours. There comes a point at around 8-10 am where I will not feel tired at all for the next couple of hours, so depending on when I start, on vacation usually at 1pm, if I get past that point 19 hours in, I feel pretty okay again, unless I shut my eyes.
I was quite tired on my first long distance drive after getting my licence and staying in the lines was the biggest problem. Only time I kept driving even though others in the car could. So my friend does make a dent into my dads car, better than me totaling it. (Which I did a year later, but that's beside the point.)
get a welsh bowman with a old longbow i bet he could beat that time and accuracy easy!
brasher01 1 day ago
the last "dude" in blue looks like Chuck Norris :P
that's why the machine was misfiring!!! BEWARE of Chuck
Yooshei 6 days ago
I want that machine for christmas
RomanLegion999 1 week ago
he was so scared his face fell off
pickthyshovel 1 week ago
That blue buy standing looks like CHUCK NORRIS . . . .
josephusHJ 2 weeks ago
Pretty clear what happened here. Kari sucks as driving, sober, tipsy and tired, but payed more attention on the tired run because she did so poorly on the first run. Tory was overconfident from the first run and let it slip.
person661982 2 weeks ago
What I do not understand is why they fired the machine gun individually at each target. Ussually volleys of arrows aim for center mass. So if this was used in a battlefield it would not be aimed at any on person. It would, however, be aimed at the center mass of the inveading army
bexksamuel20 2 weeks ago
@bexksamuel20 i think it was be cause they were testing a individual macine but thats a very good point i agree the greeks would have used it as a bulk fire weapon also i dont think they would have had as many problems only because they would have prefected it after years of nit picking in battles soldires are ususly almost intamate with their weapons even in modern times
suzukiSJ88 2 weeks ago
That pink bow and arrow is fucking sick, i want that shit
xxxtinylittlexxx 2 weeks ago
So this tests proves men are better drivers then women.
xPyroxx 2 weeks ago
the modern bow is vastly more accurate and probably more powerful
serridgeas 2 weeks ago
Isnt machine arrow thingy called balistas??
MIDDAFINGA 2 weeks ago
@MIDDAFINGA no, they just fire huge arrows
SummaPlusANumberGrrr 2 weeks ago
@SummaPlusANumberGrrr the real original was based on the balista
serridgeas 2 weeks ago
ummm.....really 30 hours and you're like that? as an insomniac I can personally say I've gone 60 hours with no sleep, I was only tired near the end
r863sa 2 weeks ago
lol! Tons of mechanical failures and you need 3 persons to operate that thing... better have 3 bows in 6 hands if you know what i mean....
elpelu123 3 weeks ago
y are they not sleeping?
desdes24 3 weeks ago
@desdes24 Testing the effects of sleep deprivation on driving
Miseritor 3 weeks ago
@TanukiCoast B-b.... but... maybe they're less picky like me and love love love muffins~ =D
And maybe also because they didn't want them to wake up too much?
freohr789 3 weeks ago
"Sooner or later we're going to run out of things to go wrong and then it will work great" I love that.
crudip 3 weeks ago 10
should have done the test first when not drunk or tired
m0gjr 3 weeks ago
Banning caffeine is probably not realistic. Most people driving long distance grab a cup of coffee at the gas station or something.
ArmednSafe 3 weeks ago
"Omg 30 hours! I'm so tired". I stay up that long practically every other day.
TheKingdomofErnor 1 month ago
and another thing they proved. women cant drive :D
Erobazai 1 month ago
why does that guy have a pink bow?
xxBroetchenhechtxx 1 month ago
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drkangelnluv 2 weeks ago
this is one of the few shows that actually makes science cool as hell.
genreking1 1 month ago
@TheHenryFilms but the archer can obviously move faster
banchooti 1 month ago
"AAAAARGH! I'M GONNA GO EAT SOMETHING THAT'S LIVING!" lol Adam
kinzaa16 1 month ago 15
FUCK sleeping depravations seems FUN
Jorjeca 1 month ago
quicker? not likely. dudes bow didnt break and they stopped the clock each time.
21526001270528 1 month ago
@21526001270528 they did it without stopping the last go
sibenikkk 1 month ago
@sibenikkk my point is if all that stuff went wrong and that was a real fight they wouldnt do well. the ordinary bow was much more efficient. didnt break and didnt need to sttop the clock or try another time.
21526001270528 1 month ago
@21526001270528 my point is all that stuff wouldnt go wrong in a real fight
because the romans (or greeks) had alot more time to develop and perfect it, maybe even better or faster than this one, but definitely more reliable
also if it broke down the guy who fired it could then take some bow and be an archer
also look at the henry films top rated comment
sibenikkk 1 month ago
@21526001270528 Just like sibenikk said, if they had more time to perfect it, there wouldn't be any missfires, or very little. The advantage of this machine over a bow is not only rate of fire but mainly ease of use. If one of the servants dies, anybody can take his place and turn the crank. Using a bow effectively takes years of training. That's one of the main reasons why the crossbow became so popular during the middle ages.
walatalalaw 1 month ago
@walatalalaw im just saying the efficancy demonstrated was worse that the archer.
21526001270528 1 month ago
that new voice over guy needs to gtfo
Nexsusthepro 1 month ago
Fudge Babies ~~WTF!
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BABY HIPPOS
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Prooved...Men are Better Drivers than women...Yeayy
ronlovesit 1 month ago
4:30 ... Man... loook at its face... You obviously must try a lot to make a Chuck Norris puppet fall to the ground
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wait whut did pronaucer said when kary drive " maintainig 50 mph or 25KM/H" hah
W00tMUKI 1 month ago
11:32 ZOMBIE IN BACKGROUND!!!
AgentBuggy47 1 month ago
haha, the "pretty pink bow" is a nice touch.
tysy73 1 month ago
This sleep deprivation is bull... 30 hrs is no challenge
ikkeheltvanlig 1 month ago
driving tired - yup no shock there. reactions, reasoning, focus all get screwed up through lack of sleep. As for the repeating balista - well, the accuracy wouldn't be such an issue... even with hand bows,they wouldn't be a sniping weapon - more of a shotgun styled salvo of arrows. If you have 3 of these machines just churning away.. the ranks would get ruined pretty soon. doing the same work as 20 trained archers
scopeophile 1 month ago
Luv the machines. Lets fill it with dildos n aim it towards pakistan coz we dun negociate with terrorists
stereonation1 1 month ago
@stereonation1 lol... el dildo bandito was here!!
tysy73 1 month ago
24 hours and they're bitching like a bunch of faggots.
Coecoo 1 month ago
it takes to people to man that machine so two people with plain bows would be better.
MegaDizzle123 1 month ago
@MegaDizzle123 well i would agree 100% if it was that machine (bult by the mythbusters) but if the romans had made it, it would not be a crossbow, it would be a ballista which even a normal ballista would have crews of 2 to 4 ppl to man. the point is they made a weak little thing, thats only good to prove a point, if a real one was made by romans it would be much better, stronger, faster then if the crew had normal bows
1crazyfocker 1 month ago
@1crazyfocker i feel like the effort it would take to make one of those, teach people how to use it and fix it on the battlefield, and lets not forget, i mean even if the Romans made it, it is likely to still jam or miss fire. Bows would have a considerably less rate and would be easier to move around then a huge thing such as that.
MegaDizzle123 1 month ago
@MegaDizzle123 the romans did use huge devises, that could only shoot 1 bolt like every 45 sec or so (a guess) that took like 2 to 5 ppl to use, let alone move, and only had around a 200lbs pull, but the one thing the romens had was the time to train their men to use some of the goofiest devices, yet they managed to use them in a very deadly manner. plus jams and miss fires would have been worked out in no time. that would be like an A bomb to them, your point is valid by today's thinking only.
1crazyfocker 1 month ago
@MegaDizzle123 The idea was to pierce shields, ect. and obtain a better range than a bow offered. Also it was much easier to train soldiers to use a machine like this, than to train them to be proper archers (it takes years of training and a special diet to produce good military archers, like the famed English longbowmen.)
That being said, I doubt this repeater was used much; single-shot ballistae were simpler to maintain and had just as high a rate of fire with disciplined crews.
bjggjb 1 month ago
@MegaDizzle123 but to train a bunch of proficient archers take a hell lot more time; life time it seems. Not only you need to train them for accuracy, speed (calmness under stress of combat) but also strength (to pull heavy bow strings). The successor of Roman Empire (Byzantine) had excellent archers (on par with archers of the steppe) but suffered a chronic lack of them.
On the other hand, it's far easier to train a bunch of engineers.
ImEternalWanderer 1 month ago
If work don't start so fucking early there will be lesser traffic accident!!
eSScODRiNgfy 1 month ago
should have gotten a korean archer to shoot them lol 5/5 within a minute guaranteed
kartriders95 1 month ago
I've went 37 hours without sleep. It gets pretty bad around the 24 hour mark, but something odd happened after 30 hours. The tiredness leaves you and I felt strangely refreshed, and even went out cycling for 2-3 miles. This was without any caffeine, etc. I think the body has the ability to adapt to lack of sleep, assuming you can overcome that initial barrier.
UncleFeedle 2 months ago
wow he riced out his bow so bad
KoutetsuTenshin 2 months ago
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stickarena123 2 months ago
The guy is great with a bow, but with all of the stuff on the bow...the level of fun and pure skill goes down drastically.
Titanwriter 2 months ago
@Titanwriter There's not this much things in that bow... Just something to hold the arrow for you, at it's position. And a nice grip. Apart from that, is just a bow.
Minajiesu 1 month ago
i think it's plausible that driving tired is more dangerous NOT confirmed. they forgot about insomniacs, and people who stay up late...not to mention that they should have had another person with aid of energy drinks/coffee because lets be honest, an average person with no sleep would go for an energy drink/coffee before hitting the road
tazmon122 2 months ago
They need to concider the fact that the enemys would be moving.
AndrewRiley1994 2 months ago
@AndrewRiley1994 These things are automatons. They just keep firing at a general direction. If you have an full army, packed men in little space, and you keep a few of these machines firing it would do a nice damage to their frontlines.
Minajiesu 1 month ago
@Minajiesu Which is very similar, in fact, to the way the first machine guns were used in the 1890s (bulky, heavy weapons on fixed mounts which limited their range of fire to an arc in front of them.) As such, they were VERY effective against frontal assaults by masses of tribal warriors.
bjggjb 1 month ago
7 am wakin up in the morning gotta do test for the myth busters XD
narutoxpein98 2 months ago
I would choose a repeating ballista or a single shot, over that one.
And able to fire large bullets.
fearofgodblablabla 2 months ago
I cant help but think that the firepower potential of the ballista has to be alot higher than a regular bow and that they should look into the possibility of piercing/line damage if they fired heavier arrows or bolt maybe even modified pila.
Kiniler 2 months ago
i cant believe they gave them nothing but fucking muffins for breakfast! When i have been sleep deprived the ONLY thing that makes me feel even slightly better (besides sleep of course) is real food, i'm talking 3 eggs over easy, a ham steak, hash browns covered in ketchup, toast&jam, and a humongous glass of O.J.
TanukiCoast 2 months ago 20
@TanukiCoast you know being up late and reading that makes me hate you.... because your right and i want it now!!!
megaman12451 2 weeks ago
@megaman12451 to IHOP... AWAY!!! XD
TanukiCoast 2 weeks ago
Then suddenly, the Mythbusters do get invaded by abused blow up dolls and crash test dummies. Their leader? Buster.
lotharsredemption 2 months ago 3
Last blue target:Chuck Norris
U can't take him down!!!Give up trying!!!
johnaros211 2 months ago
and they miss the hi-5 right at the end 12:40
AaaaghJOE 2 months ago
They forgot this machine-crossbow or whatever it is was made to shoot masses of soldiers, not just five guys, so precision wasn't really the point of this weapon. Another thing is that an archer needs a lot of training, and he can get killed. But any stupid can shoot that thing, and the machine won't die.
TheHenryFilms 2 months ago 45
@TheHenryFilms same basic reason why the crossbow became so popular during the middle ages: anybody could just pick it up, and in five minutes learn how to reload and shoot.
And this machine closely ressembles a chinese variant, a hand held repeating crossbow. Not the most acurate, but hella fast. Used to hail enormous numbers of arrows. Accuracy isn't an issue when you've got ten times the arrows flying down on the enemy ;)
walatalalaw 1 month ago
@TheHenryFilms That's a good point. People need to think about how modern Machine-guns are used VS troops with assault rifles etc: strategically as opposed to tactically.
ozoneocean 1 month ago
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They needed tools, materials, and experienced workers to construct this machine. You need mechanics to maintain it and workers to carry it around. Furthermore, the Greeks didn't have a standardized metal industry so all these parts are custom-made and not interchangeable. Each part has to be replaced by custom making them if they broke.
This is not machine gun vs rifles...this is impractical gun (this machine) vs practical gun (a regular archer).
Intranetusa 3 weeks ago
@TheHenryFilms + a trained archer can overdo 5 arrows per minute.
baca262 4 weeks ago
@TheHenryFilms
You forget that they needed tools, materials, and experienced workers to construct this machine. You need mechanics to maintain it, and also need to practice aiming the machine, and workers to carry it around. Furthermore, the Greeks didn't have a standardized metal industry so all these parts are custom-made and not interchangeable. Each part has to be replaced by custom making them if they broke.
Thus the machine was impractical and not produced seriously.
Intranetusa 3 weeks ago
@Intranetusa i agree, if it did exist there were probably very few and they were only prototypes which is why there is no evidence of their existence
blademaster564 3 weeks ago
kari is so hot
MrNatepage 3 months ago
This conclusion really annoys me, yes going an entire night without any sleep whatsoever is more dangerous than having 1 drink... that's pretty obvious!!!
atomicmrpelly 3 months ago
i hallucinated while doing my hsc woodwork major project because we stayed at school till midnight for the two weeks leading up to the due date using tools constantly and having dinner at 4pm then slamming the workshop till 12. finished my project at 3am the day it was due. oh yeah
hughGwilly 3 months ago
Agreeing with sisseeboy. It takes 3 men to operate. One to turn the crane, one to aim, and one to scout. Anyway, the machine is huge. I could easy line up a line of archers to launch a volley of arrows.
MultiJ12345 3 months ago
in truth it took three men to operate. two giving the benefit of the doubt. so in reality it should be compared to two or three archers respectively.
sisseeboy 3 months ago
What bugs me about the arrow machine gun is that it takes 2-3 guys to use it, where it was only 10 seconds faster than the single archer, it would be much slower than just 2-3 archers? xD
enordentoft 3 months ago
@enordentoft Yeah but it wouldn't be as limited by size and draw weight. They also didn't take the psychological effect into account. Imagine a lion spitting arrows, that would be scary.
ivanlagrossemoule 3 months ago
@ivanlagrossemoule Sure it would be scary, but I'd rather be scared shitless than dead.. in experiment they used common arrows, and were not actually as accurate.. the only pro about the arrow machine gun imo, is the range.. Besides, it's fairly complicated to move around, and not suitable for rugged terrain.. i'd rather just train the men as archers than use that model of siege weapon. (:
enordentoft 3 months ago
@enordentoft Yeah, of course I doubt it would be useful in most battles. But at the top of a wall it can be much better than a few archers. Note that even though the arrows missed, if you're aiming at a pile of men, accuracy isn't as important.
But it could be pretty useful since the greeks lacked siege weapons. I doubt it ever was intended to replace archers anyway.
ivanlagrossemoule 3 months ago
every two hours, Stop. Revive. Survive.
hatmos91 3 months ago
headshot on the blue
GetSome944 3 months ago
they could load it manly and not on a rack right? so it wil load allawys:D
Ar0npr0ducti0ns 3 months ago
lol i am drowsy just eating and looking through about 3 pounds of candy and drinking squirt
lol so drowsy i spelled squirt wrong 3 times
great myth if i did the same thing on an electric scooter (i cant drive, too young) i would become a wreck!
DMAN22yeah 3 months ago
In my country anything above 0.00% equals jail up to 2 years :p
vibers9 4 months ago
@vibers9
If that's true then your countries laws are retarded. You can get to an alcohol level of above 0.00% even without drinking ANY alcohol, simply by eating and digesting food!
Rawlsrocks 4 months ago
@vibers9 where do you live? btw, thats a retarded rule because you get alcohol by digesting, just like Rawlsrocks said
N4N0Clan 3 months ago
@N4N0Clan they measure the alcohol quantity from your breath :P the alcohol that you get by digesting goes trough the blood way :Pand I live in Romania
vibers9 3 months ago
@N4N0Clan check this out rhinocarhire (dot) com slash Drive-Smart-Blog slash List-of-Alcohol-Limits-by-Country (dot) aspx
vibers9 3 months ago
@vibers9 yeah the link dosent work
N4N0Clan 3 months ago
@N4N0Clan just search the internet for " list of countryes by tolerance at aclohol " or stuff like that :P
vibers9 3 months ago
If the modern bow is no different than the ancient bow why not just use the ancient bow and avoid any problems? (hint: huge difference in modern target bows and carbon arrows vs ancient greek bows and wood arrows.)
Ratd0g28 4 months ago
@Ratd0g28 because the professional archer is probably useless with a "real" bow.
rjh00 4 months ago
The dislike bar is Justin Beavers penis.. Oh wait! there is none..
Smil96DK 4 months ago
I wish I could be up all night with Kari...
Stillwater900 4 months ago
clone Kari. I want one.
oldstock1607 4 months ago
the bow isnt that modern there are compound bows....
pwnage696969 4 months ago
i think the master craftsmen of the classical era would have made an even better machine!
koffeekage 4 months ago 49
@koffeekage I think the master craftsmen Adam and Jamie could have made an even better machine had they spent longer than a week building it.
IDontKnowCorp 3 months ago
@koffeekage using all those power tools they had?
AndyF1996 2 months ago
@koffeekage They had better ones that you could pick up in a single arm.
Minajiesu 1 month ago
i hate americans. they are so cliche
k1ngm3rkage 5 months ago
Roman ballistae didn't work that way (like in this episode). They were way more powerful than any longbow.
DrParabellum 5 months ago
@DrParabellum also ballistae launched heavier missiles than longbow.
DrParabellum 5 months ago
@DrParabellum And those missiles could penetrate more than one soldier. (That ordinary arrow launched from longbow can't achieve)
DrParabellum 5 months ago
@DrParabellum AND Roman ballistae has greater range than longbows
DrParabellum 5 months ago
these guys no nothing about archery- a horse archer or a line of longbowmen are not only more mobile but a lot more versatile in these concerns, consider the weather the faults that could happen in a catapult wheres an archer can deal with the surroundings much more effectively, big machines are designed for big, heavy ammo, thats why they made the ballista...
minxel16 5 months ago
@minxel16 Perhaps you missed the point of mythbusters. The MYTH is that the Romans used an arrow machine "gun". These guys simply try to prove or disprove it. The fact that longbowmen or horse archers are more effective is completely irrelevant to this video. I suggest you stop watching this show if you are going to question their knowledge of history instead of enjoying the show for what it is
t0v3 5 months ago
@minxel16 Doesn't make that much sense. This thing is essentially a ballista that repeatedly fires. I'm sure that if the Romans get a hold of this technology, they would've have made it out of metal, just like they did with the ballista, and make them impervious to weather, make them lighter and stronger with more range. I don't see why the bolts from a ballista couldn't work with machine.
Lanky279 4 months ago
@Lanky279 of course the romans had this machiine-they didnt pack a 45lbs bow on it though so therefore to make it efficient they had to use heavier arrows or bolts. This would increase the weight of the machine limiting its obility so only really to be used with the main line of army. It would also take a few people to man one whereas an archer is solo, as well as more mobile.
If they wanted this test to be valid they shouldve used a much bigger and heavier bow with larger ammo
minxel16 4 months ago
@minxel16 and btw also have less faults with the machinery
minxel16 4 months ago
@minxel16 I don't think they were trying to build a machine that could actually be used but just trying to prove the concept is possible. The Romans, without a doubt, would've have improved the machine more than 100x if they knew of the concept.
moonlightpale 4 months ago
@moonlightpale true, the romans were great inventors-cement and cranes etc. As long as they could limit the malfunctions this version had then a repeating ballista could be made more efficient than thos used in war
minxel16 4 months ago
they were putting on being 'tired' so much, it was obvious. it wasn't even a really long time to go without sleep :/
CbRoXiDe 5 months ago
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glixinator 5 months ago
NO CONTROL???????
yukhui 5 months ago
im not trying to sound "amazing" but ive gone alot longer than 24hours without sleep whilst still being fine
iRJRx 5 months ago
@iRJRx so have i XD i went a week with 2 hours every other night, when friday came i began hallucinating and that night i went to bed at 12 *shrug* staying up that late is hard for people who are used to enough sleep, people who pretty much train themselves to function with a lack of sleep can take it without much trouble ^^
NoaFuuma 4 months ago 8
@NoaFuuma Yeah, that's what you think till you crash right in a wall and kill yourself.
arcuz92 1 month ago
@NoaFuuma True. It's hard, but trainable. Military personnel are the obvious proof. I can do my job (physically demanding job) for three consecutive days with only about 10 hours of sleep (alcohol used every night witch implies dehydration & diarrhea plus sleep deprivation symptoms) without a problem. The hardest part is trying to act normal in front of your boss and hiding that booze smell from your mouth. Done. I'm going back to work soon. I will try to beat my personal record.
OopsYouFailed 1 month ago
i think if they want to say that the machine beats the archer, they should have three archers take out the targets. cuz thats how many men were working the machine :p
ced326 5 months ago 2
"I'm gonna go eat something that was living!"
I want that on a t-shirt.
DragnSly 5 months ago 2
One of them should have done the tired first in order to account for familiarity with the course.
Mattman4698 5 months ago
Why is there some weird English narrator instead of the normal guy?
Maxxis247 5 months ago
@Maxxis247 Perhaps because this is the rip from British TV? Or the original guy was on a sick leave? Anyone can. I don't know. At least this guy is quite good, altrough can be irritating (but not that much). If you want a really annoying voiceover-try a Polish version... Only one guy does his job very good-he has a nickname "Buster" :) all other do their versions without any taste, any spark, anythig. I feel sorry for our version... :(
MrPedros1989 5 months ago
dont like how grant was the control they each should have done it fresh and sober and then all done the drunk and tired tests if anything another female should do each test too to make if fair. plus tory and kari defo banged as a pass time
Themrjakecollins 5 months ago
if mythbusters teaches me anything is were to be during the zombie invasion lol
Xlivesforever 5 months ago
The tipsy vs tired test is important because people often forget that a lot of accidents "caused" by drinking are in fact caused by being tired. When do you drink? In the evening of course, often very late into the night. So, on your way home, it's being tired that causes you to nod off and gets you killed much more often than slow reactions from being drunk. Not to say that drinking and driving is a good idea of course, but it's a shame the focus is solely on drinking in road safety campaigns.
NewFormofSilence 6 months ago
the driving sleepy makes me cry cause this summer my cousin was killed when he fell asleep at the wheel, he was sober and had just turned 20 years old :(
WILD4X4D 6 months ago
lol they missed the high five XD
MrJuicycake 6 months ago
Funny how they used "Arrow Machine Gun" to appeal to the public, Ballistae were not uncommon in the Classical period. Not really a myth, more of an investigation.
MrJERICHOJIM 6 months ago
@MrJERICHOJIM I thought the Ballista was a siege weapon that fired heavy bolts and needed manual reloading.
yugai15 6 months ago
This doesn't account for the immense cost of a weapon like this, as to a couple more bows, arrows, and some cheap soldiers. This method is much more inefficient, also due to the weight and size of the contraption, so no, this is not plausible.
Demonato 6 months ago
@Demonato If something like this existed it would have been useful on a tower or a ship where there is not enough room for lots of archers.
MrRunswithstick 6 months ago
@Demonato It could've used heavier bolts. In fact, the polybolos (what this contraption was named) is more akin to a rapid fire ballista, which they were known to use effectively.
LonesomeDucky 6 months ago
@Demonato Actually, bowmen are not cheap at all. A skilled archer took months, if not years, to train, and bows aren't easy at all to make. Easier than that monstrosity, yes, but it takes skill.
CodeSworn 6 months ago
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@CodeSworn Bowmen or Crossbowmen are much easier to get than those things 2000 years ago. Just saying.
Demonato 6 months ago
@CodeSworn Really good quality bows could take over a year to make, based on allowing the wood to be treated and the strings to be crafted. And yeah, its the main reason muskets were adopted by armies - they weren't better by any means, but they were much easier to train with and maintain.
andromidius 5 months ago
though nice,i think i will keep my shotgun(and rifles).
akdude182 6 months ago
i love how that had to duct tape over tthe HOYT branding on Brady's limbs =P
alcosher 6 months ago
@alcosher Sorry for my ignorance, but are those on there just to help him steady the bow for more accuracy?
threehead99 6 months ago
@threehead99 The part of the bow you are thinking of is the stablisers which are the long rods sticking out from behind the hand and out in front of the bow. Thes are what balance the bow in the hand. The limbs are the parts that clip into the top and bottom of the riser, the bit where the string is strung between. The limbs are the bits that bend at full draw and that is where all the energy of the bow comes from.
alcosher 5 months ago
baby hippos!?!?!?!?
bluesprucelacee 7 months ago
his face fell off!
bluesprucelacee 7 months ago
it's not 6am its 5:59 am :)
bluesprucelacee 7 months ago
they should sell this thing at ebay...
But I think this was not really used in batle for the same reason the very first gatling was not a favored weapon: many parts can break, maintaining is a pain and you need a whole (trained!) crew to do what some maybe not so well trained archers could do (with more arrows). As far as i know Greeks did not care about precision, but quantity. What makes sense for distracting an enemy formation to simplify an infantry attack
Haumaringiringi 7 months ago
@Haumaringiringi Something to keep in mind -- training a crew to use a repeating cross bow is probably way less intensive than training a bowman. Bowmen took a lot of time to train, surprisingly. That's part of why firearms took over -- their rate of fire was terrible originally, but they could fire for long ranges and with great penetrative abilities without the need of powerful bow arms which took years to build up. Machinegun crews? probably a week. Could be talking out of my ass though!
kayinnasaki 6 months ago
@kayinnasaki i maybe mistaking, but as far as i know the archers training varied from nation to nation... while the japanese and wales archers were elite troops, other nations archers...not so much. and still there is maintenance. for reenactment i have already worked on a similar, but more handy replica of a roman automatic ballista (using inflexible levers and twisted strings instead of a real bow). trust me, a few arrows aren't worth the effort. but a crock with burning oil would be;)
Haumaringiringi 6 months ago
@Haumaringiringi Oh I don't mean to necessarily say that it was worthwhile, but if they did somehow get something semi reliable working, that the training comparison COULD work out. But if you're doing re-enactment you have some first order of experience I can't hope to match. :)
kayinnasaki 6 months ago
but it takes at least two people to operate it so a human archer is better if you dont consider training
alpha22201 7 months ago
Lol why did he say blow up dolls
TheT1231995 8 months ago
@TheT1231995 because the target dummies were inflated
taelok 7 months ago
i hate these guys, they have the best jobs in the world
juki0h 8 months ago
"I'm gonna go eat something that was living!"
As long as I remain completely in the dark about what that is, Adam, go right ahead!
Hoot1SFD 8 months ago
Why do they have such a trouble of staying awake 24 hours straight?
I sometimes pull 30 hours plus when I have vacation, yeah sure, I get tired, and I cheat by drinking coke, but even at times when I ran out of coke, I can still easily pull 24 hours. There comes a point at around 8-10 am where I will not feel tired at all for the next couple of hours, so depending on when I start, on vacation usually at 1pm, if I get past that point 19 hours in, I feel pretty okay again, unless I shut my eyes.
Chrinik 8 months ago
lol...army of blow-up dolls
hcrubbocaj7 8 months ago 2
Too much of the improvements in the second test for kari could be attributed to practiced
BaronCreel 8 months ago
I was quite tired on my first long distance drive after getting my licence and staying in the lines was the biggest problem. Only time I kept driving even though others in the car could. So my friend does make a dent into my dads car, better than me totaling it. (Which I did a year later, but that's beside the point.)
Yora21 8 months ago
What is with the commentater? It's not the normal one.
DillPickleSwimmer 8 months ago