Oh great, another overrated battle. Base Vegito punches/kicks full power LSSJ Broly in the stomach with a non-serious punch and tears Broly in half, just like SSJ2 Gohan did to Bido and Bujin/Cell Jrs.
vegito would win because broly got killed by goku in the end by gathering power from his friends which made it like as strong as ssj2 so really this is like before cell games perfect cell would and could kill broly so if cell can im pretty sure vegito can
no offense man but so many of ur fcts are wrong... ssj vegeto is not as strong as goku ssj3, think of it this way. mystic gohan> ssj3 goku. (mystic Gohan absorbed) buu< ssj vegeto. so how can ssj vegeto be as strong as ssj3 goku i think it's clearly obvious ssj vegeto is stronger then ssj3 goku...
You said super sayin vegito is like a super sayin 3 goku i dont think so vegito is wayy stronger super sayin 3 goku couldent take out super buu with gotanks ssj3 form in him and regular vegito was owning super buu with ultimate gohan ssj3 gotanks and piccalo in him he just turned ssj to show off.
lol broly lol hahahahahahahahahahhhhahahhahahahaahahahaahahhaahahahaahahahahahaahahahahaahahah vegito wont even need to lift a finger lol hahahahahaah even pan could beat broly lol brolys movie dont even make seance lol gogeta dont count lol just couse gogeta appears for like 5 secs in a movie dont make him a good or stong guy
So your saying if Broly killed them all and since none of them reached super saiyan 3 dragonball z gt would still continue even after they all died and have a slight possibility of Broly destroying all the planets in their galaxy? Could dragonball z really continue? This is a simple case of the authors giving the bad guy a weakness so that the show can go on.
So in the end if Broly wasn't like a Balloon getting too much air he could stand a chance if they allowed him to train a bit :D Other than that Vegito doesn't have that weakness which in the end means Vegito wins.
If Broly was never stabbed in the stomach. He would have no weakness. And Broly is much like the hulk piss him off enough you won't have a fighting chance XD
@yamitidus broly was not pierced in the stomach. at best he had a bruise but no scar. and its not a weakness as it was never exploited. he was punched in the stomach, not the chest scar. broly is nothing like the hulk. you piss broly off, you can pwn him even easier because being angry makes a martial artist fight sloppy and leaves himself open.
@yamitidus 3. all the more reason why he sucks and was beaten so easily.
5. an excuse. the movie did not state that as the reason he lost or his weakness, in the way that movie 12 and 13 very clearly and concisely established weaknesses for their main villains. and if the writers dont know, how can i?
Every writer I have ever seen will do this. Bad guy will kick everyones ass, good guys will magically pull it off and win. Another known fact is it really doesn't matter in the end as this is an anime and you will never see this match unfold unless you play mugan and even then it would come down to your skill :D
@yamitidus usually good animes and movies have that defeat make sense by exploiting some villain mistake or weakness. broly made no mistakes, he died cos the writers dont know wtf they were doing and ran out of time so they just made some shit up
Exactly cause if they allowed Broly to live at that time without having him lose in some way that would mark the end of dbz if all the main z fighters died in that spot. So the writers were like ok let's have goku get all this strength, kick brolies ass, and make broly fight later. Now we can make gohan kick Brolies butt because he hasn't trained in 7 years XD. I don;t even count the next broly because it's fake.
@yamitidus no it wouldnt. if broly lived, it still wouldnt be the end of z, because broly isnt part of the story, hes a movie. and bio broly is official not fake. they even said if he was finished, the clone would be stronger than the original
no this fight would not be interesting or entertaining. it would be like when vegeta met nappa again in gt. vegito raises his finger. broly is turned to dust instantly.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 he would hide from vegito, cos hes vegito. he beat a being who can bring down dimensions by screaming and his ki can be felt from the kai dimension. in base form.
@054martinm Dude Broly is ruthless... and an idiot. He wouldn't hide from anyone. Broly is pretty strong himself dude. Imagine Broly transforming past the the lssj form. Vegito wouldn't be to much of a problem then.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 the lssj form had problems getting past three ssj1s. vegito is a hundred times stronger than ssj3. it would be like bruce lee vs a baby. even if its lssj3, vegito is literally the god of dbz, with only gogeta as his equal.
@054martinm Are you kidding me? Ya vegeto is strong, but broly being much stronger than an ssj2 in his first form, how strong would that make him in his second or third form? If broly did go ssj3 which he is capable of doing, he would have no equal, he would probably be the strength of like baby vegeta final form. I'm just guessing but since he was stronger than an ssj2 in his first form he has to be just as strong as an ssj4 in his lssj3 form.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 ssj2 is not a set predetermined power level so therefore broly defeating the weakest ssj2 in the series does not make him stronger than other ssj2s like majin vegeta, or gotenks. broly is not capable of ssj3 lol. thats only a what if form in raging blast and therefore pointless to use in an anime debate. ssj3 is a multiplier from ssj1 anyway, not magically stronger than vegito. wait first it was ssj3 now its lssj3? make up your mind. lssj was destroyed by ssj1 goku and ssj1 gohan
@054martinm Dude omg! Is Gohan still stronger as an ssj2 than any ssj1? Of course, thats the point of transforming to inhance your power. Broly took a dead on blow from an ssj2. Weaker than other ssj2s but do you think ssj2 goku or vegeta could have taken that blow as well as broly did? No, that punch from ssj2 gohan would have hurt an ssj2 goku. Broly didn't even blink he just smiled when he was hit dead in the face. And yes broly is capable of ssj3. All saiyans are...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no. fusions surpass that rule. for example super saiyan gotenks is above even ssj3 goku. broly took one opening blow from a warming up gohan. BIG FUCKING WHOOP. as the fight continued, gohan got more angry and damaged broly's body. at the end, you can clearly see brolys body has cuts and bruises all over from the fight. and yes i do. vegeta is faaaaarr beyond adult gohan. vegeta would kill dabura in 5 seconds but gohan was barely holding his own.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 all saiyans wont get it. goku and gotenks had to be in a different dimension training their asses off. will broly work that hard? doubt it. he would just blow up everything. can raditz be a ssj3? probably but it would take a lifetime of training with other super saiyans.
@054martinm And notice I said POTENTIAL. If broly went ssj3 He would be stronger than vegito. And if I'm talking about broly obviously I mean Lssj. Considering he is the legendary super saiyan. So just because I leave out the "L" doesn't make him not lssj. And dude you over look the power of that ssj1 goku and gohan. They both at that point had reached the next form of ssj, and goku even reached the third. So that would make all their forms stronger. Don't discredit that and minipulate...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 well the games treat lssj as having replaced ssj2. ssj3 follows on from lssj. lssj is the name of the buff green haired form, dont forget that. and goku only reached the third level after training his entire life and then training for 7 years in otherworld. and reaching the next level doesnt increase your other forms. ssj3 as it is is only a four times multiplier. since broly is weaker than cell and ssj2 kid gohan, the best his ssj3 can do is be about equal to fat buu.
@054martinm Oh my gosh you seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Broly took a blow from ssj2 gohan, and didn't get hurt. Broly was already damaged from his last fight with goku. And besides that he went into lava dude. He was scratched not bleeding and crap. Gohan ssj2 giving goku or vegeta ssj2 a punch to the face would have hurt them. And wrong again gohan warmed up before he transformed. Go watch the movies and pay attention dude...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 oh lol. one blow. give him a medal. well fuckin done. cos its not like thats ever happened before! no. gohan landed several blows and he WAS scratched and bleeding.
how do you know it would have hurt them? you underestimate the gap in their powers. gohan would lose to super perfect cell who is stronger than broly. goku and vegeta ssj2 would kill spc. lol fighting for about a minute in base isnt getting used to your true power. gohan was rusty and didnt put all he could into it
@054martinm Yes if the saiyans train they will reach that level. Goku when he was fighting frieza was wayyyyyyyyyyy weaker than frieza. Frieza was beating him easily only using 2 percent of his power. When goku transformed to a super saiyan not even all 100 percent of friezas power could beat him. In other words, you don't have to go through some insane training to reach a new transformation. It'll speed up the process by training. And if one lssj form is stronger than 2 normal saiyan...
@054martinm Saiyan forms, then if he transformed to ssj2 how much stronger would he be? Definitely stronger than a goku ssj3. Stronger than a fat buu. I'd say about as strong as Gohan buu. So if he went ssj3 there would be no one that could match that power besides an ssj4 possibly. And yes when you transform your other forms become stronger. How come goku ssj1 couldn't beat cell, but later base form goku could? Obviously his new transformations made his other forms stronger....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 lssj replaces ssj2 for broly. thats why theres no ssj2 broly in raging blast. think about it. why would they miss an entire level? and ssj3 broly is very weak. since ssj3 is a four times multiplier, and lssj (brolys ssj2) is weaker than the stronger ssj2s like kid gohan and vegeta, then broly is for sure, only about equal to fat buu. since when could base form goku beat spc outside of 27 years of nothing but training? having ssj3 in buu saga didnt make even ssj1 goku able.
@054martinm How come vegeta ssj1 couldn't beat andriod 18, but later vegeta ssj1 could beat an imperfect cell? There forms could become stronger than normal. By the way just because he was the legendary super saiyan didn't change his hair color. When he was on earth his hair was yellow the whole time. Dude you don't pay attention and you believe what you want to believe. You obviously don't know to much about dbz, you claim the read the manga, I don't, yet I know more about dbz then you.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 obviously yes because of TRAINING. since when would broly train to be a ssj3? i dont think he'd even listen to a teacher. what does goku training his ssj1 to be stronger than before have to do with broly being stronger than ssj2 goku? btw no. goku fought broly in hell at the end of movie 11 yet he said to janemba only buu had pushed him to ssj3 in battle, meaning goku ssj2 is stronger than broly.
@054martinm He did? Well I'll go check that out. And no, because gotenks nor gogeta never had ssj2. Gogeta never had ssj3. But he still went ssj4, and gotenks still went ssj3. So the whole ssj2 being replaced by lssj. If that was true that would mean broly isn't even a saiyan, that would make him something else. All saiyans have the ability to reach of their forms. Broly was ssj1. The difference between broly and other saiyans is hes way stronger than normal.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 well why didnt we see broly ssj2 in the games? goku and vegeta are also "stronger than normal". normal saiyans arent super saiyans. they are guys like raditz and paragus.
@054martinm They're stronger than normal because they trained. Broly is all natural. And I don't know why theres not an ssj2 Broly. How come theres not an ssj2 gotenks? Or ssj2 vegito. Or ssj2 or 3 gogeta? And normal saiyans all have the potential to become any super saiyan. Goku can't become as strong as broly in ssj1 form without reaching higher ssj levels. Like ssj4. Which made goku base stronger than cell. But if he only reached ssj3 he would have to transform against cell.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 there are actually. if gotenks can be ssj3, he can be ssj2. and he briefly showed ssj2 when going through it transforming to ssj3. gogeta never needed ssj2 or 3. he beat janemba in ssj1. broly just plain skipped a level because the makers are either incompetant or lssj replaces it. goku IS stronger than broly in ssj1. broly in ssj1 is about a match for base gohan in movie 10. so broly is very weak in plain old ssj1. he needs lssj to be a threat.
@054martinm No dude. Gotenks never went ssj2 and you can't say he briefly showed it because you don't know. He was transforming. When goku went straight ssj3 he didn't show ssj1 or 2. Thats what gotenks did. I know gotenks can go ssj2. I was trying to make a point. Hes a saiyan, thus he has that ability. Broly is a saiyan to, there for he can go ssj2 as well. And no he didn't skip a level. The creators probably just made his lssj1 form insanely strong, ever think of that?...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no dude. gotenks went ssj2. do you really think he randomly skipped an entire level? goku needed to be a ssj2 before ssj3. since thats the only other ssj3 in dbz, hes our only proof of the requirements needed to achieve the form. broly completely skipped it meaning they thought lssj was powerful enough that he didnt need ssj2 or 3. not all saiyans can use that weird false super saiyan. not all super saiyans can use lssj. so what makes you think every ssj can be ssj2?
@054martinm By the way they call broly the LEGENDARY *SUPER SAIYAN*. Not Broly the super saiyan one and a half. Or Broly the legendary super saiyan two and a half. He was still in ssj1 form. But for some reason his forms are wayyyyy stronger than normal ssj1. Like acended goku being no match for Broly. Or ssj2 Gohan being no match for Broly. And no. Broly ssj1 was just playing with Gohan and gohan didn't even land a hit on him. What are you talking about "ssj1 broly is weaker than base gohan"...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 meaningless. goku and vegeta are also legendary super saiyans. also brolys non canon so him being lssj plain doesnt matter. it didnt increase his power or importance to the story. hes just another saiyan goku has to kill. for some reason everyone thinks his forms are stronger. no. ssj1 broly = base gohan. base gohan matched him hit for hit and blocked everything broly tried. broly couldnt beat him in base or he wouldnt bother with lssj. lssj broly <= super perfect cell.
@054martinm Na, bro gokus legendary in the fact that he is a very talented fighter whose reached alot of forms of super saiyan that no one else can claim they have. Broly does matter hes part of the DBZ universe. Gohan did not match Broly blow for blow, Gohan never even hit him while broly was ssj1. And Broly went lssj because gohan went ssj2. Do you watch the movies? And He didn't have to. He didn't have to go lssj against the z fighters the first time. He was already way stronger....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 being part of the universe doesnt mean the creator made him. his movies make no sense and dont fit in the story. goku is the legend because he was the first saiyan to transform in a thousand years. broly is just some sidestory what if scenario and the producers cant even decide his power level. one minute he nukes galaxys, the next hes beating on little kids.
@054martinm Ascended form vegeta couldn't even hurt ssj1 broly. And that was before he went lssj. Ssj1 broly took a big bang attack straight to his back and it had no affect on him whatsoever. When Vegeta shot one at spcell it hurt him. Thus ssj1 broly is stronger than spcell. There for ssj1 broly is a match for ssj2 gohan. But lssj broly completely outclasses any ssj2 form.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 ussj vegeta was weak at the time and no kind of match for fpssj. ssj1 broly is weaker than rssj by far since he couldnt beat base gohan without turning lssj which gohan matched with ssj2. sp cell was off guard at the time and facing a vegeta who was much stronger. also vegeta put EVERYTHING into the attack on sp cell. but he didnt even look out of breath or charge up vs broly. that same vegeta that didnt hurt rssj broly put all he had into a kick on cells neck and didnt do a thing
@054martinm Goku was okay with Gohan fighting Cell. He wasn't okay with Gohan fighting Broly. Broly definitely out classes Cell and gohan. Cell if he realized he was losing would crack under all that pressure. He would become frustrated. Against Broly he would fear for his life. And dude you're so dumb. Gotenks would randomly skip a level? Hmm don't you think Broly wouldn't randomly skip a level? Yeah I guess it only works for you when you're trying to prove your point.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 and what made goku think he stood a better chance vs broly than his son? oh right the writers ride gokus dick and had no idea what they were doing. gohan should be stronger than him at that point in time meaning goku told the best fighter on the z team to leave. not smart. goku sent gohan to fight cell since he knew of gohans ssj2 power which would kill broly. brolys not a normal saiyan like so many have told me. so yes lssj seems to be his final form.
@054martinm No actually thats not his final form. Hes...a....SAIYAN!!!! Do you not understand how many forms saiyans have? And no Goku wasn't the first super saiyan, Broly was a super saiyan as a child. He was pretty much born a super saiyan. Yeah it does fit the time line. Its write before the z fighters fight cell. And before they fight buu. And yeah, goku knowing Gohan can go ssj2, he wouldn't make him fight broly because gohan would kill him. Hahahahah that makes no sense.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 HES..NOT..A..NORMAL...SAIYAN! what other saiyans do you know get as buff as him? and yes goku was the first super saiyan since broly isnt canon and it doesnt fit the timeline due to plot holes. shall i name some? wheres cell? how come gohans the weakest when he should be so far above even his father? how are goku and gohan in base yet they stayed in ssj constantly training for the cell games? why is there peacetime since the world was in chaos following cells announcement? etc
@054martinm Dude hes part of DBZ. End of story. They have posters about him, games, movies, hes mentioned in DBZ. Hes part of it. End of story. And hes obviously stronger than cell and any super saiyan 2.And no dude you're makng it seem like they didn't know what they were doing. Goku knew that even if Gohan went ssj2 he would have no chance against Broly. He wanted him to leave because he didn't want him to die.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 he is not part of the manga, ergo he isnt canon. movie 8 is like a what if sidestory made for money. its not meant to fit in the timeline and doesnt make any sense since it was so poorly written. and broly is not stronger than every ssj2. not when you have ssj2 gt kid goku, ssj2 gotenks and ssj2 adult goku. broly was killed three times by fighters less than ssj2. even pikkon is stronger since pikkon went down to hell and took broly down at the end of movie 11. goku was eating
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 dude GOHAN > GOKU. if goku didnt want him to die, have him release his true power! at least then gohan would become the strongest and stand a better chance of survival. how idiotic was it for goku to tell a fighter stronger than him and their best hope against cell to leave? if goku cant beat cell and gohan could, then how does it make sense that gohan cant beat broly and goku fuckin can?
@054martinm Dude I don't care if he isn't apart of canon! Does that change the fact that hes not apart of DBZ!? I wouldn't be saying "hey lets have Goku and Pikachu fight". That could never happen. But Broly and goku, or ssj2 gohan or cell is a possiblity. Gohan was stronger! why are you saying hes weaker? You have no reason for saying that besides the fact that Broly absolutely destroyed him and cell couldn't. So you're making crap up to fit what you want. And dude I'm going to watch....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 gohan IS weaker. goku did better than gohan vs broly, and yet hes way stronger than goku at the cell games. why would goku tell the best fighter he has to leave? kinda idiotic. none of the movies fit in the story thoguh
@054martinm that movie again because I seriously don't remember that. And duh hes not stronger than goku ss2 in gt. Or gotenks, BUT HE NEVER WENT SS2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE SHOW ME WHAT SSJ2 GOTENKS LOOKS LIKE. HOW COME SSJ2 GOTENKS ISN'T IN THE GAMES?
@054martinm Dude your such a liar!!!!!! I freaking wasted my time watching that stupid movie, and thats the reason I didn't watch it in the first place! Freakin first off, the broly in that movie was a clone. And second it was at the very end that Grand kia asked GOKU(btw who is an ss3) AND he asked Pikkon, whose stronger than super perfect cell to fight broly. First, we don't even get to see the fight. Second we just know that grand kia was worried enough about broly that he'd send the top...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 do you really think i give a shit if you wasted your time? and pikkon is not stronger than super perfect cell. he caught a supressed cell off guard. not very impressive. and no goku was going with pikkon. and we know he didnt use ssj3 because goku told janemba only buu had pushed him so far before.
@054martinm Fighters from other world to hell. It wasn't like he sent someone who was weaker than pikkon or goku. Those are the best fighters in that demension. Plus Gokus an ss3!!! All of his forms would have been stronger due to that fact. Plus Pikkon. I mean if pikkons stronger why not just send him by his self? Remember at first grand kia wanted pikkon to go to hell to take care of cell. But he didn't know about goku being as strong as he was so grand kia let him go because he asked....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 goku CAN be a ssj3. but we know for sure he didnt use it on broly. goku went with him idiot. grand kai doesnt know that pikkon would just get killed by a full powered cell. he cant sense power levels.
@054martinm So kia wasn't that worried about cell. But at that time goku was an ssj3. And kia had to know that because kabito wasn't even paying attention to goku going ss3 on earth and he said that its impossible to feel saiyan powers from that distance. So if kabito felt it we know grand kai felt it. Okay so why wouldn't he just send goku being an ssj3 by himself? He was obviously worried because he couldn't tell which of the two powers were higher. And just incase Broly was stronger he...
@054martinm Sent pikkon as well. Pikkon is obviously as stronger as gohan ssj2. Seeing how easily they both beat cell. But check this out. Cell easily beat up a gohan ssj2 and took no damage whatsoever from him. Except that one knee to the face which broly gave the impression, based on the look on his face, that he should try a tiny bit more. But the first blow gohan threw he took no damage whatsoever. The most damage he recieved in that fight was when he got hit by the kameha and when...
@054martinm He went into the lava. Gohan absolutely did nothing to him. Cell couldn't take even adult gohan. He stood no chance against kid gohan and adult gohan was only a bit weaker. But even when he had one arm he beat him. I mean you can tell that the producers of dbz didn't make spcell stronger than gohan ssj2. Thats why cell went straight to a super strong kameha. Even with gohan with a broken arm, cell knew he couldn't stand toe to toe with him. Cell is in now close to broly in power...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 wrong. gohan was hurting him and broly knew it. they were relatively close in power since gohan could break out of his hold.
cell would murder adult gohan. he was ssj2 kid gohans equal and would have killed a weakened kid gohan if vegeta didnt help him. kid gohan >>>>>adult gohan since he never trained
@054martinm And dude!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOKU HAD THE STRENGTH OF FOUR PEOPLE ALOT STRONGER THAN NORMAL SUPER SAIYANS AND ONE THAT WAS JUST STRONGER THAN A NORMAL SUPER SAIYAN. Gohan was stronger he had to be. But goku KNEW even ssj2 gohan couldn't beat broly. He took all of there best blast. Gohan ssj2 wouldn't be able to take a full force kameha to his face and be okay after the blast. But Broly was.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 I DONT CARE. four people who are also in base form and near dead = not very useful or powerful. goku did it all almost by himself, but also with his half dead friends power. ssj2 gohan >>>>ssj1 goku. if goku told gohan to leave, then that means he thinks his own ssj1 form stands a better chance than an angry gohan. which is absolutely retarded. gohan is stronger than goku BY FAR. we know this from cell saga. goku cant even scratch super perfect cell but gohan killed him
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 how do you know? broly was killed by three ssj1s. ssj2 gohan > goku gohan and goten, half dead and in ssj1 form. therefore ssj2 gohan would just slap fpssj away like a fly. ssj2 gohan killed 7 cell jrs and shrugged off three tri beam cannons like they were nothing. then he took down fully powered perfect cell with two punches and tanked cells kamehameha like it was nothing at all. stop underestimating kid gohan. hes far more of a beast than broly ever was.
@054martinm Dude your so dumb. First of all if you had a kid, would you want him to fight? Even if he was stronger than you? Yeah didn't think so. Gohan had to be stronger than goku. Gohan from the time he came out of the hyperbolic time chamber to the time goku died, was stronger than goku. So we know gohan was stronger than Goku. So why didn't he want him to fight? BECAUSE HE KNEW SSJ2 WOULDN'T STAND A CHANCE!!! And yes pikkon is stronger than cell....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no but im not goku. dude your talking about the same person who sent ssj1 goten, his 7 year old son, in to fight super buu. fusion or not, it was reckless and endangering his immature son. so you admit yourself that gohan should be stronger than goku in movie 8? THEN WHY DID HE SEND HIM AWAY? even if ssj2 cant beat broly, which it can, it should be their best hope. and then goku would die knowing his son had given his all to save them.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 but no. goku ssj1 beat broly with his near dead base form beaten drained friends powers. meaning broly is no match for a powered up ssj1 let alone ssj2. so goku had no reason at all to send his son, stronger than him, away from the fight if he was stronger than goku at the time. no reason at all.
and pikkon caught cell off guard, and cell wasnt even powered up. it was a cheap shot and doesnt make pikkon stronger.
@054martinm How do you know cell was surpressed? Even if he was that doesn't change the fact that hes still in his most strongest form. And he took out cell with one punch. You say goku can't scratch super perfect cell, yet pikkon can beat the mess out of him, and goku would tie with pikkon. Yea you don't make sense dude. And if it would briefly help, why would goku ask for it? He was half dead himself! So whats the point? Oh I know, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DRAINED, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE....
@054martinm THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALL ASCENDED SUPER SAIYANS AND ONE IS A SUPER NAMEK. JUST BECAUSE YOUR DRAINED DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T POSSESS THE ABILITY TO TRANSFORM. THEY STILL HAD THAT ABILITY AND THUS THE ENERGY THEY GAVE GOKU WAS ALL THAT OF THEY'RE ASCENDED FORMS! Goku had to be close to the same strength as an ssj3. And yeah I don't think Goku went ssj3 on broly. And before I say why let me say this, grand kia can sense energy. He told pikkon and goku to fight janemba...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 i dont care what they are when fully powered up. the fact is they couldnt even stand up in base formand had been beaten and bloodied for half the movie. i seriously doubt they had the power to make goku anywhere near ssj2 form. if they did have alot of power left, JUST GO SSJ and give goku 50x more power! oh thats right thatd make too much sense! no...they gave their beaten near dead base form powers which is not equal to ssj3. hell it shouldnt even be equal to ssj1.
@054martinm Goku tells pikkon to get king yema out of that bubble stuff while goku fights janemba. When goku transforms the other world starst to shake and grand kai says "goku you're a hurricane". Okay why would he say that about goku if he can't sense powerlevels? What if it was just an explosion? What if it was janemba powering up? What if it was pikkon powering up? What if it was someone else powering up? But he says goku! He can sense powerlevels....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 BECAUSE HE WAS SHAKING OTHERWORLD! grand kai was being flung around his room by goku's powerup, hence the hurricane comment which is also a fake dub line, not the original japanese line. he didnt say goku at all in the real subbed movie 12.
@054martinm Now Goku being an ssj3 that would make all his other forms stronger. Ssj2 would have been stronger than a normal ssj2 like gohan. Broly clearly out classed gohan and gohan didn't break out of that hold by over powering broly, he KNEED him in the face. How come he didn't break out of brolys bear hug? EXACTLY. Okay also grandkai COULDN'T tell who was stronger between the two at there max powers. Goku being ssj3, and broly being lssj. Broly would have to be pretty close....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 being one level up didnt make him THAT much stronger. piccolo implies majin vegeta and ssj2 gohan are close in power level. he says "perhaps vegeta is even stronger than gohan when he fought cell!"
broly was not clearly outclassing him. remember the whole breaking out of his hold cant happen if the power level difference is huge. and in dbz, only a small difference is needed. plus gohan was holding his own and stunning broly, pushing him back with his kicks.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 BECAUSE HE WAS IN BASE FORM AT THE FUCKING TIME. GOOD GOD. if you had to struggle to break out of a hold in ssj2 form, then how the hell would it make sense that base gohan could break out of the bear hug without videl throwing the crystal and distracting broly? exactly.
watch it again. first he overpowered broly, then kneed him in the face which stunned broly and hurt him a little.
@054martinm In power to ssj3 if grand kai wanted both pikkon and goku to fight broly. But gokus proven to beat fighers when hes not even there strength, like kid buu. Goku mentioned that kid buu was twice as strong as super buu, not gohan absorbed buu. And we know super buu was stronger than goku so kid buu was too. But goku beat him. Goku is a more skilled fighter than broly, so it would take an extra strong ssj2 with great techniques like goku to beat broly.....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 goku never said kid buu was twice as strong as super buu. thats absolutely retarded. READ THE MANGA. kid buu is MUCH weaker than super buu. base goku would have to be stronger than base gotenks for that to be remotely possible, which is also impossible. goku was matching kid buu hit for hit which suggests their POWER is the same. skill has never mattered in the slightest? vegeta was a better fighter than zarbon. piccolo was better than third form frieza. goku was better than broly
@054martinm Dude do you want me to get the link for you? I will PROVE goku said that kid buu was TWICE as strong as super buu. And are you kidding me? Goku knew about fusion and what it would do. And Goten was 9. Because trunks was 10 and goten was only a year younger little nigger. And freakin goku didn't want goten to fight super buu. He wanted him to fight fat buu. Piccolo wanted them to fight super buu because that was there best chance of Beating him....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 such a link does not exist in the manga. knowing about how strong a fusion is does not change the fact they were just kids. goten was 7 actually. he was concieved the night before the day of the cell games which was 7 years before buu arc. i would have thought someone such as you...would have known that. but i was wrong. and freaking goku did want goten to fight buu. fat or supes doesnt matter.
@054martinm They were the only ones that were close in the same power who could do the fusion dance. You make no sense, you lie, and minipulate certain scenes to fit what you want. Yeah I don't believe goku went ssj3 on Broly. But I do believe Broly was stronger than any ssj2. I'm not saying that its impossible for an ssj2 to beat him. But Broly had to be close in powerlevel to an ssj3. Considering piccolo mentioned that he could feel his power from Earth which was really far away from....
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 yeah so do you. and i dont lie. i see things how i see them. and impossible. if you dont think that brolys far far away from ssj3 LIKE HE IS, then why would goku not need ssj3 to fight him? think about it.
and no piccolo cant feel his power. thats a dub line and therefore doesnt count in a debate. broly has never fought a ssj2 so how could he beat him? you should watch broly: confronting and discrediting the lies
@054martinm The fake planet Vegeta. And kabito mentioned that saiyan powers can't be felt from great distances. Piccolo was never as frightened by Cells power level as he was Brolys. And remember spcell was hurt by a big bang attack when caught off guard. Broly was caught off guard before he even went lssj and was hit by a big bang attack and it didn't hurt him what so ever. I'm sure a big bang attack would have hurt an ssj2. Broly is stronger than any ssj2 and especially spcell.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 BROLY NEVER FOUGHT A SSJ2 MUCH LESS IS STRONGER THAN ONE. even if gohan was a ssj2 in movie 10, which isnt confirmed, then how the fuck does that mean hes stronger than any ssj2? gohan was out of practice and the weakest ssj2 in the series, yet still held his own and broke out of brolys hold. majin vegeta would kill broly like a fly.
no kibito said no saiyan is strong enough to be felt from the world of the kais. since broly wasnt felt by surpeme kai i guess hes not ssj3 level
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 you do know that attacks vary in power each time they are used you know. saying those two big bang attacks were exactly the same in power is like saying the big bang attack on 19 = big bang attack on broly. first of all, being caught off guard doubles the damage and spc wasnt even hurt. he was just distracted. same thing with vegeta. vegeta shot his second form in the back and only distracted him. not a scratch. and vegeta in cell games is already massively stronger than movie 8.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 all saiyans rise in power with every fight, so vegeta at the end of the cell games had attained massive power, probably equal to fpssj goku. i am sure a single punch would not hurt cell but broly was completely beaten in every way at the end of movie 8. one punch. from fpssj goku. lol wouldnt even scratch a full powered ssj2.
@054martinm o.k you two number one akira himself said that vegito is the strongest person in dragon ball universe and i mostly agree with 054martinm because in EVERY game and on web sites it counts broly lssj form a super saiyan 2 state.I also agree with bigdaddyduke2 because in my guess if broly fought fat buu ,buu would be dead but if he fought super buu and above he probably would get killed like if broly fought gohan only he would be destoyed so in other words vegito wins with no problem
@dbzguysean why would fat buu lose to broly? fat buu one shotted a stronger gohan than the one broly had some trouble with. thats like saying cooler loses to frieza because frieza put up a better fight with ssj goku. and akira never said that but its obviously the truth.
@054martinm o.k if broly went ssj3 buu would be dominated but goku couldn't fight super buu alone so that means broly can't do it because broly would die from goku alone.
@054martinm But in the end I'd still say broly was even stronger than goku as an ssj2 but broly took a beating as well and ended up losing due to the fact that gokus more than likely faster, and close to broly in strength. Kind like how perfect cell beat ascended trunks. Cell admitted that Trunks was stronger, but that he couldn't win just based on his strength. In the same way I think goku fpssj2 beat broly. But broly is still stronger.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 ssj2 goku > broly since goku explicitly told janemba that ONLY majin buu had ever pushed him to ssj3 before. and broly doesnt seem to be slowed down or limited by lack of skill. so thats a pointless statement. broly cannot lose if he is the stronger of the two fighters. fact of dbz. similar to how vegeta was close to recoome yet recoomme is a dumb mercenary and vegeta is a tactical genius. but it was still an obvious curbstomp.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 your slobbering fanboyism has reached new heights. how the fuck can ssj1 broly be as strong as ssj2? if that were the case, just flexing his aura would destroy base gohan. but he struggled big time to take base gohan down. lssj broly was a match, and only a little stronger than adult gohan. adult gohan broke out of his hold, whereas on namek, dodoria was only a little weaker than vegeta and couldnt break out of the hold. the gap of dodoria/vegeta is bigger than broly and gohan
No way Broly wins. Think of it like this. Super Buu was stronger than SS3 Gotenks. Mystic Gohan was stronger than Super Buu. So Super Buu with Mystic Gohan absorbed is far and away stronger than a Super Saiyan 3. If Vegito in his base form was capable of smacking around Super Buu w/ Gohan absorbed, then he would effortlessly spank Broly. LSS form is no way stronger than Super Saiyan 3... otherwise he wouldn't be given a "wat-if" SS3 form that's stronger.
@khfan799 but what if Broly was LSS3 Vs Vegtio? you gotta think Broly in super saiyan form is stronger then any other super saiyan form and LSS must be equal to SS2 but what if he went LSS3 he'd be A LOT stronger then any other normal SS3 so vegtio would have a very hard time
@StealthyRooster I still don't know about that. Mystic Gohan was clearly a lot stronger than a normal SS3 also, and Super Buu with him absorbed still didn't stand a chance against Vegito.
Oh great, another overrated battle. Base Vegito punches/kicks full power LSSJ Broly in the stomach with a non-serious punch and tears Broly in half, just like SSJ2 Gohan did to Bido and Bujin/Cell Jrs.
HombreSinBigoteEl3 2 weeks ago
Dude i love both characters but really, vegito would kill broly, and u facts are way off dude
darkjedi572 2 weeks ago
vegito would win because broly got killed by goku in the end by gathering power from his friends which made it like as strong as ssj2 so really this is like before cell games perfect cell would and could kill broly so if cell can im pretty sure vegito can
XxCheRRyZzzz 1 month ago
no offense man but so many of ur fcts are wrong... ssj vegeto is not as strong as goku ssj3, think of it this way. mystic gohan> ssj3 goku. (mystic Gohan absorbed) buu< ssj vegeto. so how can ssj vegeto be as strong as ssj3 goku i think it's clearly obvious ssj vegeto is stronger then ssj3 goku...
lordhaych19 2 months ago
vegeto is sronger than gogeta, potara fusion is a lot stronger then the fusion dance. according to old kai
lordhaych19 2 months ago
vegetto would win against broly.
TheLegendaryssjBroly 2 months ago
three words: Dragon Ball Multiverse. That is all.
LeoDaFreek 2 months ago
broly will fuk him
BuHez3i 3 months ago
No gohan is the strongest
3dspert 3 months ago
what do you mean broly is the 1st lssj?! i remember that at 1000 years or something a lssj is born. broly is the last lssj
binixx 4 months ago
@binixx broly isnt a lssj. hes a mutated ssj that has no legend.
054martinm 3 months ago
@054martinm are you serious?!
binixx 3 months ago
@binixx yes. bardock is the legendary ssj
054martinm 3 months ago
You said super sayin vegito is like a super sayin 3 goku i dont think so vegito is wayy stronger super sayin 3 goku couldent take out super buu with gotanks ssj3 form in him and regular vegito was owning super buu with ultimate gohan ssj3 gotanks and piccalo in him he just turned ssj to show off.
ShadowOGkush13 4 months ago
lol broly lol hahahahahahahahahahhhhahahhahahahaahahahaahahhaahahahaahahahahahaahahahahaahahah vegito wont even need to lift a finger lol hahahahahaah even pan could beat broly lol brolys movie dont even make seance lol gogeta dont count lol just couse gogeta appears for like 5 secs in a movie dont make him a good or stong guy
VEGITTO127 5 months ago
tht would be the best match up ever!!!!! it would be very interesting
kingcs34 7 months ago
@kingcs34 base vegetto's finger is all that is needed for broly
054martinm 5 months ago
Alright, here goes 3 classes of difficulty for Broly SS2 Cell Gohan, Goku, Vegeta- Broly is struggling SS3, Mystic Gohan- Broly gets curbstomped Gogeta, Vegito- Broly gets godstomped
mainkilla 9 months ago
@ResidentEvilFan23100 No SS form can defeat a fusion that easily.
mainkilla 9 months ago
So your saying if Broly killed them all and since none of them reached super saiyan 3 dragonball z gt would still continue even after they all died and have a slight possibility of Broly destroying all the planets in their galaxy? Could dragonball z really continue? This is a simple case of the authors giving the bad guy a weakness so that the show can go on.
yamitidus 9 months ago
So in the end if Broly wasn't like a Balloon getting too much air he could stand a chance if they allowed him to train a bit :D Other than that Vegito doesn't have that weakness which in the end means Vegito wins.
yamitidus 9 months ago
Imagine ss4 Broly >.>"
yamitidus 10 months ago
@yamitidus Still fails against both Vegito and Gogeta.
mainkilla 9 months ago
If Broly was never stabbed in the stomach. He would have no weakness. And Broly is much like the hulk piss him off enough you won't have a fighting chance XD
yamitidus 10 months ago
@yamitidus broly was not pierced in the stomach. at best he had a bruise but no scar. and its not a weakness as it was never exploited. he was punched in the stomach, not the chest scar. broly is nothing like the hulk. you piss broly off, you can pwn him even easier because being angry makes a martial artist fight sloppy and leaves himself open.
054martinm 9 months ago
@054martinm
1.I agree with him not being stabbed in the stomach.
2.Since when did he ever not leave himself open?
3.He's not a martial artists he just used close line and punch basically.
4.I say he's like the hulk because he gets stronger as he get's pissed.
5.His weakness is his own energy because it is unstable which is why he imploded from the gut punch.
6.There is a reason why he had a crown on and how he was able to overpower it :D
yamitidus 9 months ago
@yamitidus 3. all the more reason why he sucks and was beaten so easily.
5. an excuse. the movie did not state that as the reason he lost or his weakness, in the way that movie 12 and 13 very clearly and concisely established weaknesses for their main villains. and if the writers dont know, how can i?
054martinm 9 months ago
@054martinm
Every writer I have ever seen will do this. Bad guy will kick everyones ass, good guys will magically pull it off and win. Another known fact is it really doesn't matter in the end as this is an anime and you will never see this match unfold unless you play mugan and even then it would come down to your skill :D
yamitidus 9 months ago
@yamitidus usually good animes and movies have that defeat make sense by exploiting some villain mistake or weakness. broly made no mistakes, he died cos the writers dont know wtf they were doing and ran out of time so they just made some shit up
054martinm 9 months ago
@054martinm
Exactly cause if they allowed Broly to live at that time without having him lose in some way that would mark the end of dbz if all the main z fighters died in that spot. So the writers were like ok let's have goku get all this strength, kick brolies ass, and make broly fight later. Now we can make gohan kick Brolies butt because he hasn't trained in 7 years XD. I don;t even count the next broly because it's fake.
yamitidus 9 months ago
@yamitidus no it wouldnt. if broly lived, it still wouldnt be the end of z, because broly isnt part of the story, hes a movie. and bio broly is official not fake. they even said if he was finished, the clone would be stronger than the original
054martinm 9 months ago
Broly would have a chance at SS3.
DUSTIN5602 10 months ago
@DUSTIN5602 no he wouldnt.
054martinm 9 months ago
BROLY!!! If he went SS3 He'd SMASH Vegito
JukeNukem141 10 months ago
@JukeNukem141 no he wouldnt. broly is a thousand times weaker than vegito in ssj1. going ssj3 makes very little difference.
054martinm 9 months ago
@JukeNukem141 Unlikely.
mainkilla 9 months ago
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mainkilla 9 months ago
@ResidentEvilFan23100 prove it. im all ears.
054martinm 11 months ago
no this fight would not be interesting or entertaining. it would be like when vegeta met nappa again in gt. vegito raises his finger. broly is turned to dust instantly.
054martinm 1 year ago
broly vs vegito : ant vs a dinosaur.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm the power of their ssj1 forms.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
I don't think Broly would hide from anyone dude.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago 2
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 he would hide from vegito, cos hes vegito. he beat a being who can bring down dimensions by screaming and his ki can be felt from the kai dimension. in base form.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude Broly is ruthless... and an idiot. He wouldn't hide from anyone. Broly is pretty strong himself dude. Imagine Broly transforming past the the lssj form. Vegito wouldn't be to much of a problem then.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago 2
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 the lssj form had problems getting past three ssj1s. vegito is a hundred times stronger than ssj3. it would be like bruce lee vs a baby. even if its lssj3, vegito is literally the god of dbz, with only gogeta as his equal.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Are you kidding me? Ya vegeto is strong, but broly being much stronger than an ssj2 in his first form, how strong would that make him in his second or third form? If broly did go ssj3 which he is capable of doing, he would have no equal, he would probably be the strength of like baby vegeta final form. I'm just guessing but since he was stronger than an ssj2 in his first form he has to be just as strong as an ssj4 in his lssj3 form.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 ssj2 is not a set predetermined power level so therefore broly defeating the weakest ssj2 in the series does not make him stronger than other ssj2s like majin vegeta, or gotenks. broly is not capable of ssj3 lol. thats only a what if form in raging blast and therefore pointless to use in an anime debate. ssj3 is a multiplier from ssj1 anyway, not magically stronger than vegito. wait first it was ssj3 now its lssj3? make up your mind. lssj was destroyed by ssj1 goku and ssj1 gohan
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude omg! Is Gohan still stronger as an ssj2 than any ssj1? Of course, thats the point of transforming to inhance your power. Broly took a dead on blow from an ssj2. Weaker than other ssj2s but do you think ssj2 goku or vegeta could have taken that blow as well as broly did? No, that punch from ssj2 gohan would have hurt an ssj2 goku. Broly didn't even blink he just smiled when he was hit dead in the face. And yes broly is capable of ssj3. All saiyans are...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no. fusions surpass that rule. for example super saiyan gotenks is above even ssj3 goku. broly took one opening blow from a warming up gohan. BIG FUCKING WHOOP. as the fight continued, gohan got more angry and damaged broly's body. at the end, you can clearly see brolys body has cuts and bruises all over from the fight. and yes i do. vegeta is faaaaarr beyond adult gohan. vegeta would kill dabura in 5 seconds but gohan was barely holding his own.
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 all saiyans wont get it. goku and gotenks had to be in a different dimension training their asses off. will broly work that hard? doubt it. he would just blow up everything. can raditz be a ssj3? probably but it would take a lifetime of training with other super saiyans.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm And notice I said POTENTIAL. If broly went ssj3 He would be stronger than vegito. And if I'm talking about broly obviously I mean Lssj. Considering he is the legendary super saiyan. So just because I leave out the "L" doesn't make him not lssj. And dude you over look the power of that ssj1 goku and gohan. They both at that point had reached the next form of ssj, and goku even reached the third. So that would make all their forms stronger. Don't discredit that and minipulate...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 well the games treat lssj as having replaced ssj2. ssj3 follows on from lssj. lssj is the name of the buff green haired form, dont forget that. and goku only reached the third level after training his entire life and then training for 7 years in otherworld. and reaching the next level doesnt increase your other forms. ssj3 as it is is only a four times multiplier. since broly is weaker than cell and ssj2 kid gohan, the best his ssj3 can do is be about equal to fat buu.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Oh my gosh you seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Broly took a blow from ssj2 gohan, and didn't get hurt. Broly was already damaged from his last fight with goku. And besides that he went into lava dude. He was scratched not bleeding and crap. Gohan ssj2 giving goku or vegeta ssj2 a punch to the face would have hurt them. And wrong again gohan warmed up before he transformed. Go watch the movies and pay attention dude...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 oh lol. one blow. give him a medal. well fuckin done. cos its not like thats ever happened before! no. gohan landed several blows and he WAS scratched and bleeding.
how do you know it would have hurt them? you underestimate the gap in their powers. gohan would lose to super perfect cell who is stronger than broly. goku and vegeta ssj2 would kill spc. lol fighting for about a minute in base isnt getting used to your true power. gohan was rusty and didnt put all he could into it
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Yes if the saiyans train they will reach that level. Goku when he was fighting frieza was wayyyyyyyyyyy weaker than frieza. Frieza was beating him easily only using 2 percent of his power. When goku transformed to a super saiyan not even all 100 percent of friezas power could beat him. In other words, you don't have to go through some insane training to reach a new transformation. It'll speed up the process by training. And if one lssj form is stronger than 2 normal saiyan...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 lol dub line. he was using more like 30% at first. 10% against vegeta.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Saiyan forms, then if he transformed to ssj2 how much stronger would he be? Definitely stronger than a goku ssj3. Stronger than a fat buu. I'd say about as strong as Gohan buu. So if he went ssj3 there would be no one that could match that power besides an ssj4 possibly. And yes when you transform your other forms become stronger. How come goku ssj1 couldn't beat cell, but later base form goku could? Obviously his new transformations made his other forms stronger....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 lssj replaces ssj2 for broly. thats why theres no ssj2 broly in raging blast. think about it. why would they miss an entire level? and ssj3 broly is very weak. since ssj3 is a four times multiplier, and lssj (brolys ssj2) is weaker than the stronger ssj2s like kid gohan and vegeta, then broly is for sure, only about equal to fat buu. since when could base form goku beat spc outside of 27 years of nothing but training? having ssj3 in buu saga didnt make even ssj1 goku able.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm How come vegeta ssj1 couldn't beat andriod 18, but later vegeta ssj1 could beat an imperfect cell? There forms could become stronger than normal. By the way just because he was the legendary super saiyan didn't change his hair color. When he was on earth his hair was yellow the whole time. Dude you don't pay attention and you believe what you want to believe. You obviously don't know to much about dbz, you claim the read the manga, I don't, yet I know more about dbz then you.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 obviously yes because of TRAINING. since when would broly train to be a ssj3? i dont think he'd even listen to a teacher. what does goku training his ssj1 to be stronger than before have to do with broly being stronger than ssj2 goku? btw no. goku fought broly in hell at the end of movie 11 yet he said to janemba only buu had pushed him to ssj3 in battle, meaning goku ssj2 is stronger than broly.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm He did? Well I'll go check that out. And no, because gotenks nor gogeta never had ssj2. Gogeta never had ssj3. But he still went ssj4, and gotenks still went ssj3. So the whole ssj2 being replaced by lssj. If that was true that would mean broly isn't even a saiyan, that would make him something else. All saiyans have the ability to reach of their forms. Broly was ssj1. The difference between broly and other saiyans is hes way stronger than normal.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 well why didnt we see broly ssj2 in the games? goku and vegeta are also "stronger than normal". normal saiyans arent super saiyans. they are guys like raditz and paragus.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm They're stronger than normal because they trained. Broly is all natural. And I don't know why theres not an ssj2 Broly. How come theres not an ssj2 gotenks? Or ssj2 vegito. Or ssj2 or 3 gogeta? And normal saiyans all have the potential to become any super saiyan. Goku can't become as strong as broly in ssj1 form without reaching higher ssj levels. Like ssj4. Which made goku base stronger than cell. But if he only reached ssj3 he would have to transform against cell.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 there are actually. if gotenks can be ssj3, he can be ssj2. and he briefly showed ssj2 when going through it transforming to ssj3. gogeta never needed ssj2 or 3. he beat janemba in ssj1. broly just plain skipped a level because the makers are either incompetant or lssj replaces it. goku IS stronger than broly in ssj1. broly in ssj1 is about a match for base gohan in movie 10. so broly is very weak in plain old ssj1. he needs lssj to be a threat.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm No dude. Gotenks never went ssj2 and you can't say he briefly showed it because you don't know. He was transforming. When goku went straight ssj3 he didn't show ssj1 or 2. Thats what gotenks did. I know gotenks can go ssj2. I was trying to make a point. Hes a saiyan, thus he has that ability. Broly is a saiyan to, there for he can go ssj2 as well. And no he didn't skip a level. The creators probably just made his lssj1 form insanely strong, ever think of that?...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no dude. gotenks went ssj2. do you really think he randomly skipped an entire level? goku needed to be a ssj2 before ssj3. since thats the only other ssj3 in dbz, hes our only proof of the requirements needed to achieve the form. broly completely skipped it meaning they thought lssj was powerful enough that he didnt need ssj2 or 3. not all saiyans can use that weird false super saiyan. not all super saiyans can use lssj. so what makes you think every ssj can be ssj2?
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm By the way they call broly the LEGENDARY *SUPER SAIYAN*. Not Broly the super saiyan one and a half. Or Broly the legendary super saiyan two and a half. He was still in ssj1 form. But for some reason his forms are wayyyyy stronger than normal ssj1. Like acended goku being no match for Broly. Or ssj2 Gohan being no match for Broly. And no. Broly ssj1 was just playing with Gohan and gohan didn't even land a hit on him. What are you talking about "ssj1 broly is weaker than base gohan"...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 meaningless. goku and vegeta are also legendary super saiyans. also brolys non canon so him being lssj plain doesnt matter. it didnt increase his power or importance to the story. hes just another saiyan goku has to kill. for some reason everyone thinks his forms are stronger. no. ssj1 broly = base gohan. base gohan matched him hit for hit and blocked everything broly tried. broly couldnt beat him in base or he wouldnt bother with lssj. lssj broly <= super perfect cell.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Na, bro gokus legendary in the fact that he is a very talented fighter whose reached alot of forms of super saiyan that no one else can claim they have. Broly does matter hes part of the DBZ universe. Gohan did not match Broly blow for blow, Gohan never even hit him while broly was ssj1. And Broly went lssj because gohan went ssj2. Do you watch the movies? And He didn't have to. He didn't have to go lssj against the z fighters the first time. He was already way stronger....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 being part of the universe doesnt mean the creator made him. his movies make no sense and dont fit in the story. goku is the legend because he was the first saiyan to transform in a thousand years. broly is just some sidestory what if scenario and the producers cant even decide his power level. one minute he nukes galaxys, the next hes beating on little kids.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Ascended form vegeta couldn't even hurt ssj1 broly. And that was before he went lssj. Ssj1 broly took a big bang attack straight to his back and it had no affect on him whatsoever. When Vegeta shot one at spcell it hurt him. Thus ssj1 broly is stronger than spcell. There for ssj1 broly is a match for ssj2 gohan. But lssj broly completely outclasses any ssj2 form.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 ussj vegeta was weak at the time and no kind of match for fpssj. ssj1 broly is weaker than rssj by far since he couldnt beat base gohan without turning lssj which gohan matched with ssj2. sp cell was off guard at the time and facing a vegeta who was much stronger. also vegeta put EVERYTHING into the attack on sp cell. but he didnt even look out of breath or charge up vs broly. that same vegeta that didnt hurt rssj broly put all he had into a kick on cells neck and didnt do a thing
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Goku was okay with Gohan fighting Cell. He wasn't okay with Gohan fighting Broly. Broly definitely out classes Cell and gohan. Cell if he realized he was losing would crack under all that pressure. He would become frustrated. Against Broly he would fear for his life. And dude you're so dumb. Gotenks would randomly skip a level? Hmm don't you think Broly wouldn't randomly skip a level? Yeah I guess it only works for you when you're trying to prove your point.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 and what made goku think he stood a better chance vs broly than his son? oh right the writers ride gokus dick and had no idea what they were doing. gohan should be stronger than him at that point in time meaning goku told the best fighter on the z team to leave. not smart. goku sent gohan to fight cell since he knew of gohans ssj2 power which would kill broly. brolys not a normal saiyan like so many have told me. so yes lssj seems to be his final form.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm No actually thats not his final form. Hes...a....SAIYAN!!!! Do you not understand how many forms saiyans have? And no Goku wasn't the first super saiyan, Broly was a super saiyan as a child. He was pretty much born a super saiyan. Yeah it does fit the time line. Its write before the z fighters fight cell. And before they fight buu. And yeah, goku knowing Gohan can go ssj2, he wouldn't make him fight broly because gohan would kill him. Hahahahah that makes no sense.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 HES..NOT..A..NORMAL...SAIYAN! what other saiyans do you know get as buff as him? and yes goku was the first super saiyan since broly isnt canon and it doesnt fit the timeline due to plot holes. shall i name some? wheres cell? how come gohans the weakest when he should be so far above even his father? how are goku and gohan in base yet they stayed in ssj constantly training for the cell games? why is there peacetime since the world was in chaos following cells announcement? etc
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude hes part of DBZ. End of story. They have posters about him, games, movies, hes mentioned in DBZ. Hes part of it. End of story. And hes obviously stronger than cell and any super saiyan 2.And no dude you're makng it seem like they didn't know what they were doing. Goku knew that even if Gohan went ssj2 he would have no chance against Broly. He wanted him to leave because he didn't want him to die.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 he is not part of the manga, ergo he isnt canon. movie 8 is like a what if sidestory made for money. its not meant to fit in the timeline and doesnt make any sense since it was so poorly written. and broly is not stronger than every ssj2. not when you have ssj2 gt kid goku, ssj2 gotenks and ssj2 adult goku. broly was killed three times by fighters less than ssj2. even pikkon is stronger since pikkon went down to hell and took broly down at the end of movie 11. goku was eating
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 dude GOHAN > GOKU. if goku didnt want him to die, have him release his true power! at least then gohan would become the strongest and stand a better chance of survival. how idiotic was it for goku to tell a fighter stronger than him and their best hope against cell to leave? if goku cant beat cell and gohan could, then how does it make sense that gohan cant beat broly and goku fuckin can?
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude I don't care if he isn't apart of canon! Does that change the fact that hes not apart of DBZ!? I wouldn't be saying "hey lets have Goku and Pikachu fight". That could never happen. But Broly and goku, or ssj2 gohan or cell is a possiblity. Gohan was stronger! why are you saying hes weaker? You have no reason for saying that besides the fact that Broly absolutely destroyed him and cell couldn't. So you're making crap up to fit what you want. And dude I'm going to watch....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 gohan IS weaker. goku did better than gohan vs broly, and yet hes way stronger than goku at the cell games. why would goku tell the best fighter he has to leave? kinda idiotic. none of the movies fit in the story thoguh
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm that movie again because I seriously don't remember that. And duh hes not stronger than goku ss2 in gt. Or gotenks, BUT HE NEVER WENT SS2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE SHOW ME WHAT SSJ2 GOTENKS LOOKS LIKE. HOW COME SSJ2 GOTENKS ISN'T IN THE GAMES?
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 he briefly ascended into it when he transformed to ssj3. and i dont give a shit about the games. the games told me mr satan > broly.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude your such a liar!!!!!! I freaking wasted my time watching that stupid movie, and thats the reason I didn't watch it in the first place! Freakin first off, the broly in that movie was a clone. And second it was at the very end that Grand kia asked GOKU(btw who is an ss3) AND he asked Pikkon, whose stronger than super perfect cell to fight broly. First, we don't even get to see the fight. Second we just know that grand kia was worried enough about broly that he'd send the top...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 do you really think i give a shit if you wasted your time? and pikkon is not stronger than super perfect cell. he caught a supressed cell off guard. not very impressive. and no goku was going with pikkon. and we know he didnt use ssj3 because goku told janemba only buu had pushed him so far before.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Fighters from other world to hell. It wasn't like he sent someone who was weaker than pikkon or goku. Those are the best fighters in that demension. Plus Gokus an ss3!!! All of his forms would have been stronger due to that fact. Plus Pikkon. I mean if pikkons stronger why not just send him by his self? Remember at first grand kia wanted pikkon to go to hell to take care of cell. But he didn't know about goku being as strong as he was so grand kia let him go because he asked....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 goku CAN be a ssj3. but we know for sure he didnt use it on broly. goku went with him idiot. grand kai doesnt know that pikkon would just get killed by a full powered cell. he cant sense power levels.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm So kia wasn't that worried about cell. But at that time goku was an ssj3. And kia had to know that because kabito wasn't even paying attention to goku going ss3 on earth and he said that its impossible to feel saiyan powers from that distance. So if kabito felt it we know grand kai felt it. Okay so why wouldn't he just send goku being an ssj3 by himself? He was obviously worried because he couldn't tell which of the two powers were higher. And just incase Broly was stronger he...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@054martinm Sent pikkon as well. Pikkon is obviously as stronger as gohan ssj2. Seeing how easily they both beat cell. But check this out. Cell easily beat up a gohan ssj2 and took no damage whatsoever from him. Except that one knee to the face which broly gave the impression, based on the look on his face, that he should try a tiny bit more. But the first blow gohan threw he took no damage whatsoever. The most damage he recieved in that fight was when he got hit by the kameha and when...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 pikkon did not beat cell. he just got him by surprise with a kaioken-like technique.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm He went into the lava. Gohan absolutely did nothing to him. Cell couldn't take even adult gohan. He stood no chance against kid gohan and adult gohan was only a bit weaker. But even when he had one arm he beat him. I mean you can tell that the producers of dbz didn't make spcell stronger than gohan ssj2. Thats why cell went straight to a super strong kameha. Even with gohan with a broken arm, cell knew he couldn't stand toe to toe with him. Cell is in now close to broly in power...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 wrong. gohan was hurting him and broly knew it. they were relatively close in power since gohan could break out of his hold.
cell would murder adult gohan. he was ssj2 kid gohans equal and would have killed a weakened kid gohan if vegeta didnt help him. kid gohan >>>>>adult gohan since he never trained
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm And dude!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOKU HAD THE STRENGTH OF FOUR PEOPLE ALOT STRONGER THAN NORMAL SUPER SAIYANS AND ONE THAT WAS JUST STRONGER THAN A NORMAL SUPER SAIYAN. Gohan was stronger he had to be. But goku KNEW even ssj2 gohan couldn't beat broly. He took all of there best blast. Gohan ssj2 wouldn't be able to take a full force kameha to his face and be okay after the blast. But Broly was.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 I DONT CARE. four people who are also in base form and near dead = not very useful or powerful. goku did it all almost by himself, but also with his half dead friends power. ssj2 gohan >>>>ssj1 goku. if goku told gohan to leave, then that means he thinks his own ssj1 form stands a better chance than an angry gohan. which is absolutely retarded. gohan is stronger than goku BY FAR. we know this from cell saga. goku cant even scratch super perfect cell but gohan killed him
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 how do you know? broly was killed by three ssj1s. ssj2 gohan > goku gohan and goten, half dead and in ssj1 form. therefore ssj2 gohan would just slap fpssj away like a fly. ssj2 gohan killed 7 cell jrs and shrugged off three tri beam cannons like they were nothing. then he took down fully powered perfect cell with two punches and tanked cells kamehameha like it was nothing at all. stop underestimating kid gohan. hes far more of a beast than broly ever was.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude your so dumb. First of all if you had a kid, would you want him to fight? Even if he was stronger than you? Yeah didn't think so. Gohan had to be stronger than goku. Gohan from the time he came out of the hyperbolic time chamber to the time goku died, was stronger than goku. So we know gohan was stronger than Goku. So why didn't he want him to fight? BECAUSE HE KNEW SSJ2 WOULDN'T STAND A CHANCE!!! And yes pikkon is stronger than cell....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no but im not goku. dude your talking about the same person who sent ssj1 goten, his 7 year old son, in to fight super buu. fusion or not, it was reckless and endangering his immature son. so you admit yourself that gohan should be stronger than goku in movie 8? THEN WHY DID HE SEND HIM AWAY? even if ssj2 cant beat broly, which it can, it should be their best hope. and then goku would die knowing his son had given his all to save them.
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 but no. goku ssj1 beat broly with his near dead base form beaten drained friends powers. meaning broly is no match for a powered up ssj1 let alone ssj2. so goku had no reason at all to send his son, stronger than him, away from the fight if he was stronger than goku at the time. no reason at all.
and pikkon caught cell off guard, and cell wasnt even powered up. it was a cheap shot and doesnt make pikkon stronger.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm How do you know cell was surpressed? Even if he was that doesn't change the fact that hes still in his most strongest form. And he took out cell with one punch. You say goku can't scratch super perfect cell, yet pikkon can beat the mess out of him, and goku would tie with pikkon. Yea you don't make sense dude. And if it would briefly help, why would goku ask for it? He was half dead himself! So whats the point? Oh I know, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DRAINED, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@054martinm THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALL ASCENDED SUPER SAIYANS AND ONE IS A SUPER NAMEK. JUST BECAUSE YOUR DRAINED DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T POSSESS THE ABILITY TO TRANSFORM. THEY STILL HAD THAT ABILITY AND THUS THE ENERGY THEY GAVE GOKU WAS ALL THAT OF THEY'RE ASCENDED FORMS! Goku had to be close to the same strength as an ssj3. And yeah I don't think Goku went ssj3 on broly. And before I say why let me say this, grand kia can sense energy. He told pikkon and goku to fight janemba...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 i dont care what they are when fully powered up. the fact is they couldnt even stand up in base formand had been beaten and bloodied for half the movie. i seriously doubt they had the power to make goku anywhere near ssj2 form. if they did have alot of power left, JUST GO SSJ and give goku 50x more power! oh thats right thatd make too much sense! no...they gave their beaten near dead base form powers which is not equal to ssj3. hell it shouldnt even be equal to ssj1.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Goku tells pikkon to get king yema out of that bubble stuff while goku fights janemba. When goku transforms the other world starst to shake and grand kai says "goku you're a hurricane". Okay why would he say that about goku if he can't sense powerlevels? What if it was just an explosion? What if it was janemba powering up? What if it was pikkon powering up? What if it was someone else powering up? But he says goku! He can sense powerlevels....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 BECAUSE HE WAS SHAKING OTHERWORLD! grand kai was being flung around his room by goku's powerup, hence the hurricane comment which is also a fake dub line, not the original japanese line. he didnt say goku at all in the real subbed movie 12.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Now Goku being an ssj3 that would make all his other forms stronger. Ssj2 would have been stronger than a normal ssj2 like gohan. Broly clearly out classed gohan and gohan didn't break out of that hold by over powering broly, he KNEED him in the face. How come he didn't break out of brolys bear hug? EXACTLY. Okay also grandkai COULDN'T tell who was stronger between the two at there max powers. Goku being ssj3, and broly being lssj. Broly would have to be pretty close....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 being one level up didnt make him THAT much stronger. piccolo implies majin vegeta and ssj2 gohan are close in power level. he says "perhaps vegeta is even stronger than gohan when he fought cell!"
broly was not clearly outclassing him. remember the whole breaking out of his hold cant happen if the power level difference is huge. and in dbz, only a small difference is needed. plus gohan was holding his own and stunning broly, pushing him back with his kicks.
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 BECAUSE HE WAS IN BASE FORM AT THE FUCKING TIME. GOOD GOD. if you had to struggle to break out of a hold in ssj2 form, then how the hell would it make sense that base gohan could break out of the bear hug without videl throwing the crystal and distracting broly? exactly.
watch it again. first he overpowered broly, then kneed him in the face which stunned broly and hurt him a little.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm In power to ssj3 if grand kai wanted both pikkon and goku to fight broly. But gokus proven to beat fighers when hes not even there strength, like kid buu. Goku mentioned that kid buu was twice as strong as super buu, not gohan absorbed buu. And we know super buu was stronger than goku so kid buu was too. But goku beat him. Goku is a more skilled fighter than broly, so it would take an extra strong ssj2 with great techniques like goku to beat broly.....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 goku never said kid buu was twice as strong as super buu. thats absolutely retarded. READ THE MANGA. kid buu is MUCH weaker than super buu. base goku would have to be stronger than base gotenks for that to be remotely possible, which is also impossible. goku was matching kid buu hit for hit which suggests their POWER is the same. skill has never mattered in the slightest? vegeta was a better fighter than zarbon. piccolo was better than third form frieza. goku was better than broly
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude do you want me to get the link for you? I will PROVE goku said that kid buu was TWICE as strong as super buu. And are you kidding me? Goku knew about fusion and what it would do. And Goten was 9. Because trunks was 10 and goten was only a year younger little nigger. And freakin goku didn't want goten to fight super buu. He wanted him to fight fat buu. Piccolo wanted them to fight super buu because that was there best chance of Beating him....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 such a link does not exist in the manga. knowing about how strong a fusion is does not change the fact they were just kids. goten was 7 actually. he was concieved the night before the day of the cell games which was 7 years before buu arc. i would have thought someone such as you...would have known that. but i was wrong. and freaking goku did want goten to fight buu. fat or supes doesnt matter.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm They were the only ones that were close in the same power who could do the fusion dance. You make no sense, you lie, and minipulate certain scenes to fit what you want. Yeah I don't believe goku went ssj3 on Broly. But I do believe Broly was stronger than any ssj2. I'm not saying that its impossible for an ssj2 to beat him. But Broly had to be close in powerlevel to an ssj3. Considering piccolo mentioned that he could feel his power from Earth which was really far away from....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 yeah so do you. and i dont lie. i see things how i see them. and impossible. if you dont think that brolys far far away from ssj3 LIKE HE IS, then why would goku not need ssj3 to fight him? think about it.
and no piccolo cant feel his power. thats a dub line and therefore doesnt count in a debate. broly has never fought a ssj2 so how could he beat him? you should watch broly: confronting and discrediting the lies
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm The fake planet Vegeta. And kabito mentioned that saiyan powers can't be felt from great distances. Piccolo was never as frightened by Cells power level as he was Brolys. And remember spcell was hurt by a big bang attack when caught off guard. Broly was caught off guard before he even went lssj and was hit by a big bang attack and it didn't hurt him what so ever. I'm sure a big bang attack would have hurt an ssj2. Broly is stronger than any ssj2 and especially spcell.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 BROLY NEVER FOUGHT A SSJ2 MUCH LESS IS STRONGER THAN ONE. even if gohan was a ssj2 in movie 10, which isnt confirmed, then how the fuck does that mean hes stronger than any ssj2? gohan was out of practice and the weakest ssj2 in the series, yet still held his own and broke out of brolys hold. majin vegeta would kill broly like a fly.
no kibito said no saiyan is strong enough to be felt from the world of the kais. since broly wasnt felt by surpeme kai i guess hes not ssj3 level
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 you do know that attacks vary in power each time they are used you know. saying those two big bang attacks were exactly the same in power is like saying the big bang attack on 19 = big bang attack on broly. first of all, being caught off guard doubles the damage and spc wasnt even hurt. he was just distracted. same thing with vegeta. vegeta shot his second form in the back and only distracted him. not a scratch. and vegeta in cell games is already massively stronger than movie 8.
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 all saiyans rise in power with every fight, so vegeta at the end of the cell games had attained massive power, probably equal to fpssj goku. i am sure a single punch would not hurt cell but broly was completely beaten in every way at the end of movie 8. one punch. from fpssj goku. lol wouldnt even scratch a full powered ssj2.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm o.k you two number one akira himself said that vegito is the strongest person in dragon ball universe and i mostly agree with 054martinm because in EVERY game and on web sites it counts broly lssj form a super saiyan 2 state.I also agree with bigdaddyduke2 because in my guess if broly fought fat buu ,buu would be dead but if he fought super buu and above he probably would get killed like if broly fought gohan only he would be destoyed so in other words vegito wins with no problem
dbzguysean 11 months ago
@dbzguysean why would fat buu lose to broly? fat buu one shotted a stronger gohan than the one broly had some trouble with. thats like saying cooler loses to frieza because frieza put up a better fight with ssj goku. and akira never said that but its obviously the truth.
054martinm 11 months ago
@054martinm o.k if broly went ssj3 buu would be dominated but goku couldn't fight super buu alone so that means broly can't do it because broly would die from goku alone.
dbzguysean 11 months ago
@dbzguysean buu would just turn broly to candy.
054martinm 9 months ago
@dbzguysean If Brolly's LSSJ state was SSJ2, he would killed Goku in one punch. He isn't, he's in the upper SS1 tier.
mainkilla 9 months ago
@054martinm But in the end I'd still say broly was even stronger than goku as an ssj2 but broly took a beating as well and ended up losing due to the fact that gokus more than likely faster, and close to broly in strength. Kind like how perfect cell beat ascended trunks. Cell admitted that Trunks was stronger, but that he couldn't win just based on his strength. In the same way I think goku fpssj2 beat broly. But broly is still stronger.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 ssj2 goku > broly since goku explicitly told janemba that ONLY majin buu had ever pushed him to ssj3 before. and broly doesnt seem to be slowed down or limited by lack of skill. so thats a pointless statement. broly cannot lose if he is the stronger of the two fighters. fact of dbz. similar to how vegeta was close to recoome yet recoomme is a dumb mercenary and vegeta is a tactical genius. but it was still an obvious curbstomp.
054martinm 1 year ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 your slobbering fanboyism has reached new heights. how the fuck can ssj1 broly be as strong as ssj2? if that were the case, just flexing his aura would destroy base gohan. but he struggled big time to take base gohan down. lssj broly was a match, and only a little stronger than adult gohan. adult gohan broke out of his hold, whereas on namek, dodoria was only a little weaker than vegeta and couldnt break out of the hold. the gap of dodoria/vegeta is bigger than broly and gohan
054martinm 1 year ago
I'd go for broly
productionalproduct 1 year ago 2
Broly for the win all the way
l3g3Nd4rYb34N 1 year ago 2
@l3g3Nd4rYb34N how is broly even standing a chance?
054martinm 1 year ago
I'd love to see broly Super Sayan 3 put up a fight with vegito but i would love to see vegito win
AWWWEEESSSOMMMMMEEE 1 year ago
Oh I would love to see this fight happen i'd be a epic showdown if broly went LSS3 Or LSS4 to fight Vegeto
JukeNukem141 1 year ago
No way Broly wins. Think of it like this. Super Buu was stronger than SS3 Gotenks. Mystic Gohan was stronger than Super Buu. So Super Buu with Mystic Gohan absorbed is far and away stronger than a Super Saiyan 3. If Vegito in his base form was capable of smacking around Super Buu w/ Gohan absorbed, then he would effortlessly spank Broly. LSS form is no way stronger than Super Saiyan 3... otherwise he wouldn't be given a "wat-if" SS3 form that's stronger.
khfan799 1 year ago
@khfan799 but what if Broly was LSS3 Vs Vegtio? you gotta think Broly in super saiyan form is stronger then any other super saiyan form and LSS must be equal to SS2 but what if he went LSS3 he'd be A LOT stronger then any other normal SS3 so vegtio would have a very hard time
StealthyRooster 1 year ago
@StealthyRooster I still don't know about that. Mystic Gohan was clearly a lot stronger than a normal SS3 also, and Super Buu with him absorbed still didn't stand a chance against Vegito.
khfan799 1 year ago
@StealthyRooster lssj3 in the games was said to be equal to ss3 goku. lssj1 was destroyed by ssj1 goku and his half dead sons.
054martinm 1 year ago
@khfan799 Dude I remember Gotenks kicking Buu's ***.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 1 year ago
@khfan799 gotenks was stronger than supes dude. and vegito never fought buu in his base form
054martinm 1 year ago
I'd say vegetio would win to be honest
Alexanimal7 1 year ago
let me put it like this. say broly was 13 in movie 10.
broly 13 vs goku 5 gohan 5 and goten 4.
the son family wins.
vegito is ssj3 goku and ssj2 vegeta fused. so 5 x 8 is 40. and ssj2 vegeta is 10.
that makes base vegito 400. and super vegito 5200, facing broly whos at 13.
you would have to be a major brolytard to think he even stands a chance
054martinm 1 year ago
Boly all the way
thereelistflow77 1 year ago
Awesome Idea, I would love to see Broly win
HATERZONNNEEEEEE 1 year ago
@HATERZONNNEEEEEE and how exactly do you think thats even close to being possible?
054martinm 1 year ago